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A Seth, Elias Comparative Overview
Acknowledgments This essay is dedicated to the memory of Stan Ulkowski and his partner, Lynda Dahl. Without their hard work and dedication in creating Seth Network International – the group that brought so many Seth readers together from all parts of the world in the 1990’s – this essay would not exist in its present form. Kudos, love, and high-fives go out to all my compatriots and teachers on the Sethnet email list at Yahoo! Groups, the NewWorldView Discussion Forums, and the Elias forum. Thanks for helping me to experience and ponder the rich subtext within Seth’s and Elias’ ideas and also providing challenging and creative public forums in which to immerse myself. There are also many additional people whose creative efforts and diligent pursuit of excellence helped to inspire and refine this essay. Heart-felt thanks go out to Gail Becker, Rob Butts, Ron Churchman, Rodney Davidson, Laurel Davies, Mary Dillman, Elias, Mary Ennis, Kaan & Aysegul Erdal, Norm & Reta Farb, Joe Fenstermacher, Jene Fielder, Gerhard & Elisabeth Fuchs, Mary Jane Gilcrease, Frieda Glica, Bobbi Houle, Dave Kaplan, Bill Ingle, Jeremy Key, Carter Massie, Cathy McCallum, Ted Mousseau, Vivien Parks, Vicki Pendley, Billie Petty, Jim Pickerell, Greg Polson, Bob Proctor, Margot Reed, Jane Roberts, Mary Rouen, Seth, Rick Stack, Michael Steffen, Jim Swanson, Lynda Symans, David Tate, Paul Tews, Nicky and Michael Wilson. And to Elena de la Peña, thanks for being a friend and an editor extraordinaire. And special thanks go to my “partner in time” – Joanne – whose extraordinary dedication to the pursuit of excellence, creativity, and endless love made this little project possible. “We are sharing so many lifetimes together.” Introduction The information offered by Seth and Elias explores basic perennial ideas – the nature of God, life, the universe, and everything, to quote the late humorist Douglas Adams. The purpose of this essay is to introduce the basic elements of the information offered by Elias to provide a baseline for comparison with the Seth material. In the process, we will introduce some new interpretations of Seth’s ideas to show their complementary relationship with Elias’ ideas. My intent is to reveal the “connective tissue” between the two teachings and build a conceptual bridge that shows the similarities far outweigh the apparent differences. But, before we dive into the similarities and differences, I’d like to set the stage with some background information including a brief overview on the relationship between channeling, the inner senses, and the nature of belief systems. Let’s begin with Jane Roberts, who lived in Elmira, NY and channeled an entity named Seth – the self-described “energy personality essence” no longer focused in physical reality – from 1963 until her passing in 1984. Along with the tireless efforts of her husband, Robert F. Butts, they published over thirty-five books of philosophy, fiction, and poetry. Nine of those books were dictated in finished form, without any significant editing, directly by Seth. A tenth book – The Magical Approach – is a compilation of Seth sessions published posthumously. In addition, there is a more recent set of books, called The Early Sessions, in which most of the Seth material that preceded the first dictated book – Seth Speaks – was published. The remainder, scheduled for publication, are called The Personal Sessions. After that, The ESP Class Sessions are scheduled for publication. When completed, all of the 1,800-plus Seth sessions will be available in print for the first time. By contrast, in late April, 1995, Elias – another self-described “energy personality essence” – first spoke through Mary Ennis. The sessions have been, with the exception of a number of private sessions, videotaped and transcribed since session 8. There are now over one thousand transcripts that have been published on this Internet website and over fourteen hundred sessions recorded to date. Both of these bodies of work are the result of what is conventionally termed “channeling,” a phenomenon in which the host enters an altered state and allows another personality, called a source, to come through and speak. When the source is finished, it “leaves” and the host personality “returns.” In both cases, Seth/Jane and Elias/Mary, the hosts have little or no memory of what transpired and need to review a session transcript or tape in order to learn what was discussed. The average person knows very little about this phenomenon. When you bring up the topic of channeling the stereotypical frameworks that many still believe in include demonic possession, a religious frenzy or “speaking in tongues” called glossolalia or dissociative personality disorders like schizophrenia. All of the preceding conditions immediately trigger a fear reaction because our officially accepted reality, in terms of mainstream science and organized religion, don’t yet have adequate explanations for this phenomenon. Rob Butts, Jane Roberts, and Seth each said that the term “channeling” was inadequate to explain the rich multidimensional relationships between their own psychological experiences. Rob says, “I don’t care for the term ‘channeling,’ since I think it too all inclusive and already trite.” (1) Jane had this to say about her relationship with Seth in the introduction to The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events:
Seth stated that he was related within consciousness to Jane and Rob in a manner that defies our conventional psychological explanations. According to Seth, the human psyche is multidimensional by nature; a source personality capable of manifesting multiple selves in simultaneous time frameworks. So within that definition just what, then, is Seth? Seth states that his native reality is elsewhere in what he termed another “framework of consciousness.” Seth describes himself as a “bridge personality” that is the result of a mergence of his and Jane’s consciousness:
Seth and Elias each say that their own source reality is nonphysical, “outside” of space and time. If this is true, then it means that the psyche is by nature independent of space and time, with death being a new beginning and not an end. According to mainstream psychological belief systems this view is delusional, the result of an ego – our primary waking identity – who fears its inevitable death and ultimate annihilation. In other words, reality is created only in the brain through the five physical senses. When the brain dies, so does the ego. Period. Yet according to Seth and Elias, we each have inner senses – a form of deep intuition – that allows us to empathically and conceptually experience inner reality. We use these in addition to our physical senses to create everything we know in physical reality. Similarly, these inner senses are the means by which the mystics of the ages have been able to transcend the domain of five-senses-only perception and directly perceive the hidden, source domains from which we all spring. And by implication, the inner senses also make channeling phenomenon possible. The contemporary branch of psychology – transpersonal psychology – aligns with these multidimensional views. Founded in the 1960’s by Robert Assagioli and Stanislav Grof, and continued by contemporaries Abraham Maslow, James Fadiman, Michael Murphy, Arthur Hastings, Jon Klimo, Ken Wilber, Michael Washburn, and many others, the word transpersonal hints at the multidimensional nature of consciousness. Beginning in 1983, Wilber’s innovative work evolved into an integral psychology that has taken this field to the next stage of holonic (4) and transformative thinking. Together, integral and transpersonal psychology acknowledge that consciousness, however elusive to define in concrete terms, is the primary causal agent in our universe. In other words, our consciousness literally creates all energy-matter and space-time. And consciousness is not limited to those four dimensions, nor to the five physical senses, but is multidimensionally nested within a vast, holonic, Universal Mind. Jane Roberts’s experiences with the Seth phenomenon paralleled the birth of the transpersonal movement in the mid-1960’s. Jane went on to publish her own theories that she called Aspect Psychology in which she closely examined and interpreted her subjective experiences. (5) She did this out of necessity because the models promoted by mainstream psychology and religion at the time were too limited and incomplete for her to make sense of her psychic experiences, of which the Seth phenomenon was only one very important part. Jane also autotyped entire books, experimented with out-of-body projections, healing energies, multiple focus, and more. All of these experience were made possible by learning to consciously use her inner senses. The Seth material is considered by many, myself included, to be one of the richest and most useful sources of perennial ideas produced during the past forty years, with over seven and a half million books sold worldwide. With such a grass roots following, it is a challenge to build a case for another source of channeled information that not only expands upon the foundation laid by Seth, but expands it to the next, more subtle, level of understanding. And yet that is precisely what I hope to accomplish in this essay. New ideas, however, are often met with an initial resistance to maintain the status quo. This is a normal process observable throughout history. And yet change appears to be one of the constants in our physical experience. Nothing stays the same. Thomas Kuhn wrote an influential book in 1970 called The Structure of Scientific Revolutions where he showed how scientific theories and models, called paradigms, often become accepted as science fact, prohibiting new, contradictory paradigms from taking hold. The result is scientism, not science. The same concepts apply to the perennial ideas contained in the writings of Seth, Elias, Buddha, Mohammed, Christ, and Include-Your-Favorite-Expert-Here. Though not a science locked in the chains of five-senses-only perception, there is still an area of agreed upon jargon – the actual words used to describe key ideas in the perennial philosophy. (6) And when we take the ideas as facts, when we forget that the Seth material is only a contemporary translation of the perennial philosophy, the result is Sethism or Eliasism – dogmatic beliefs about the truths that change with experience. What we are exploring here is called epistemology – a fancy word used by philosophers to understand how we know what we know and decide what the rules of evidence are to substantiate what we know. In the physical sciences, we are constrained by a particular set of belief systems relating to five-senses-only perception and objective reality. In post-metaphysics, which is based upon our direct experience of nonphysical reality, not merely intellectual speculation about what Seth, Elias, or Hawking “says,” we include subjective perception, including inner senses and extrasensory perception. (7) This opens the flood gates to new ways of mapping psychological reality, both inner and outer. Buddhist traditions call this wisdom awareness. The shamanic tradition in Carlos Castañeda’s books call it second attention. Elias calls it engaging periphery. I use the term hyperception. All deal with the same thing: conscious use of the inner senses to complement and enhance the physical senses. That is, an integral mix of subjective and objective, intuitive and intellectual cognition. Hyperception is derived from the word “hyperspace,” a word originating in mid-nineteenth century science fiction to describe a fictional space containing more than three dimensions that allowed for extraordinary events, such as faster than light travel. More recently hyperspace has been used by quantum physicists to describe theoretical multidimensional space-time frameworks. Most of us are familiar, for example, with television’s Starship Enterprise as it engages its warp engines, enters hyperspace, and exits in another quadrant of the galaxy millions of light years away. According to every perennial tradition, our conscious minds can be trained to do this, too. Hyperception describes the wide spectrum of subjective perception that results from consciously transcending the limits of space and time. Still, altered states engaging hyperception are, for the vast majority of the population, only temporary states. Afterward, we usually return to our primary neurological focus that relies upon belief systems to interpret and translate our experiences into meaningful and practical terms. So we are constrained by our belief systems, since by definition any belief is a self-imposed limitation. In other words, a belief about reality is not necessarily an absolute truth. Every belief by its very nature is limiting! And I’m using the term limiting belief here in a different way than many interpret it. In the Sethian sense, limiting beliefs are seen as “bad” since they hold us back from manifesting our dreams and desires. I’m using the word limit in a more universal way to apply to any belief held by anyone who perceives physical reality through the primary lens of five-senses-only perception, through linear space-time only. Here are some thoughts from Seth that make this point clearer:
And though this is part of a broader topic – the nature of Absolute Universal Truth in relation to the relative nature of belief systems – it is important to mention here. (10) It is no accident that Seth, Elias, and every teacher of perennial ideas say that Universal Truth is to be verified through direct, inner experience. We learn by doing. For every question we ask, we get an answer. For every answer we get, we formulate new questions. The inner senses are native to us all, implicit in our biology, and not just the purview of virtuosos like Jane Roberts. So, just like playing the piano or riding a bike, we too can explore hyperception by developing our inner senses. (11) Let’s return now to the channeling phenomenon. As defined earlier, channeling has been with us as long as there have been people. Jon Klimo, a psychologist, is the author of a highly regarded tome on the subject: Channeling: Investigations on Receiving Information from Paranormal Sources. It is a thorough investigation into the history and nature of channeling. He repeatedly points out how even though channeling has often been tucked away “into the closet” of unsavory experiences, it simply refuses to go away. Klimo says that:
Since the biblical times of Abraham, when an anthropomorphosized god figure purportedly “spoke unto” and “through” the Prophets of the Old Testament, we have been presented with cases of channeling. And yet, from criticisms of false prophets and demonic possession to dissociative identity disorder, religious and scientific belief systems have unsuccessfully attempted to confine and invalidate channeling in the West. Jane Roberts’s level-headed introspection and speculation in her three Aspect Psychology books offer compelling anecdotal evidence that these criticisms are based upon models of the psyche and universe that are still narrow and incomplete. Also, keep in mind that when Jane was engaging the Seth phenomenon in the 1960’s, the idea of channeling was not widely known. It was still very much on the fringe of various occult and metaphysical groups. In the year 2003 there are now dozens, if not hundreds, of people offering channeled information publicly through various books, tapes, websites, newsgroups, and email lists on the Internet. Channeled information is available through a variety of public and private sessions from sources like Ramtha, Lazarus, James, Archangel Michael, Kryon, Abraham, Bashar, Enoch, Datre, and many more. And even though channeling is not yet talked about regularly on the evening news, it is more “out of the closet” than ever before in Western history. Jon Klimo states that “since 1986, channeling has reached into the grassroots. It has entered the popular vocabulary. Channeling now is part of current mainstream consensus reality.” (13) A good example is the imagery that graced the cover of the March 26, 2000 Los Angeles Times Calendar Magazine, the one that reports on the local entertainment scene. It pictures comedian Billy Crystal in deep concentration, sitting barefoot and cross-legged, eyes closed, surrounded by icons of the year’s best movies nominated for the upcoming Academy Awards T.V. show. The headline simply reads, “Channeling Oscar.” What does it all mean? While mainstream science and religion have found ways to dismiss and discredit it, the channeling phenomenon has always been a part of the human experience. So, we need expanded models of the psyche and the universe to further understand multidimensional reality. The models presented by Seth, Elias, and transpersonal and integral psychology do just that. Together, they all play a part in revealing the validity and importance of the channeling phenomenon along with the inner senses and the nature of belief systems. Building the Conceptual Bridge Between Seth and Elias Elias says that he engages an “energy exchange” with Mary Ennis. This exchange is similar to what many call channeling, but Elias makes an interesting distinction. Channeling involves an interaction with aspects of one’s own inner self, an energy exchange involves a mergence and an exchange with another inner self. Mary’s experience has changed many times since the sessions began and continues to develop. Regarding the Seth material that pre-dates his own, Elias claims to be fully aware of it. When asked why he uses different words to describe the same concepts as Seth, Elias says he does not wish to perpetuate a new cult built around these ideas. For example, Elias uses the term “essence” to mean the same thing as Seth’s term “entity,” and “regional areas of consciousness” parallels “frameworks of consciousness,” and essence “families” parallels “families” of consciousness.
Elias also says that he belongs to a different “family” of consciousness – Sumafi – than Seth, who says he holds Sumari intent. Here’s what Rob Butts had to say about Seth in this regard:
While many Seth readers are familiar with the concept of Sumari, they are still unfamiliar with the other eight “families” of consciousness introduced in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2. (15) As a brief introduction, Seth says that the idea of “families” is symbolic for something beneath physical appearances – a nonphysical source-attribute unique to individualized consciousness. We can “slice the pie” of consciousness any way we want when analyzing our conscious universe in quantitative or qualitative terms. But the nine “families” idea is intended only as an orienting metaphor to describe the innate intention of the collective, over six billion people by present estimates! It is not meant to be taken literally. In other words, if you imagine that there are humanized beings frolicking around inner space that watch over us little earthlings, then you’ve got it all wrong. While Seth clearly states that Rob belongs to the Sumari, the “families” metaphor also has a deeper, intuitive meaning that also describes the innate intention of the multidimensional personality. That is, consciousness is naturally imbued with certain propensities by Primary Source, or what Seth calls All-That-Is. The actual words we use to describe these propensities are of secondary importance. The “families” are not individually distinct. They are not concrete qualities that are separable. In nonphysical terms, consciousness is holonically nested and merged. In physical terms, Seth offered the concept of subdivisions of the nine intents to explain the countless variations and permutations of intent as expressed by people. Just like a prism breaks white light into component colors, so too, does the “families” metaphor break the Whole of collective human consciousness into a spectrum of innate intention designed to promote maximum value fulfillment for all life on the planet. However, when you look at our rainbow analogy from a “distance” separate colors can be seen. Yet when viewed up close, it is impossible to clearly discern where one color stops and another begins; they blur into each other. This means that there can be overlaps, hybrids, and endless shades of intention, all of which act as a kind of primary fuel expressed through our impulse steams. This means that the healing intent, for example, can subdivide to specialize in interpersonal relationships, specific areas of human anatomy, or surgery, etc. Or the healing intent can combine with the teaching intent to specialize in teaching the art of healing, or surgery, etc. Again, each intent is not defined as a discrete quantity or quality, but intuitively, as innate characteristics of the pool of infinite psychic potentials and latent human probabilities all within the context of All-That-Is. And in order to understand this in terms of one’s own intent, all you need do is look at the things in your life that have come naturally and effortlessly. You will find that your individual intent has been consistently expressed throughout your entire life, from the time you were a child through adolescence and adulthood. A simple exercise to help you hone in on your own intent is to create your own intent name, something that expresses the fulfilling things you do naturally. It can be simple like “discoverer” or more involved like “teacher/artist/parent.” There’s no way to get this wrong and you can always refine it as you go. Regarding his Sumafi intent and how it colors the information he offers, as opposed to that of other channelers, Elias says that:
My interpretation of “outside of accepted official belief systems” is that Elias offers information that doesn’t align with our mainstream, consensus reality. And in terms of perennial imagery this includes the avoidance of angels, demons, star-born aliens, guides, and a host of other New Age and religious belief systems. In other words, his information is outside of the mass beliefs held by the majority at present including many scientific, religious, and New Age belief systems. How Zen. And how challenging! It’s also important to point out that “outside of accepted official belief systems” doesn’t mean without belief systems. We each “create our own reality” through the complex filters of our beliefs systems – expectations, intent, thought, emotion, and desire. So as long as we create through our physical senses, we create and perceive through the filters of our belief systems. On the other hand, we can also apply this concept of “outside of belief systems” to the Seth material and the fact that they have yet to hit mainstream Western thinking. Seth ideas were intended to lay a conceptual foundation while making no claim at being complete or presented by an infallible source. Seth said that:
Though the Seth material has yet to be embraced by any majority, and is not designed to be, Seth did state that these ideas will one day take their place in mainstream Western thinking:
Was the above a literal or a figurative statement? Only time will tell. As of this writing, Seth’s ideas, though still outside of our officially accepted belief systems, are slowly gaining a wider audience. All of his books have been back in print since the mid 1990’s. And many people in various walks of life, like Deepak Chopra, Caroline Myss, Christian de Quincy, Willis Harman, Fred Alan Wolf, Charles Tart, and Louise Hay have provided public testimonials to support the richness, depth, and practical use of the Seth material within the fields of human potential and alternative medicine. This widening interest in the work of Jane Roberts and Seth adds a layer of intrigue to any source that comes along and appears to ride on its coat tails. And yet in my view that is exactly what we have in the information offered by Elias whose ideas will either hold up to scrutiny or be discredited, as will any new paradigm that stands upon the shoulders of the preceding one. What About Seth’s and Elias’ Odd Speech Mannerisms? When one reads their first Elias transcript one of the initial obstacles is his “improper” English syntax, run-on sentences, and even “made-up” words. For many, his verbal style is easier to listen to than read at first. It sounds like an early nineteenth century version of Franglish, or mixed French and English syntax. While many people believe themselves to be open to new ideas and willing to explore the unknown, I am often struck by how many falter at this point. In terms of odd verbal syntax and the Seth material, consider that in all of the published material Seth’s unique accent and way of adding a run-on “ah” at the end words has not been phonetically transcribed. No doubt this would have made Seth’s verbal syntax seem quite flamboyant and even bizarre, turning off many readers and potential buyers of the Seth books back in the 1970’s. This is to say that Rob Butts, who transcribed almost every Seth session except for some of the ESP classes, translated Seth’s dictation into a format that he and Jane were comfortable with. In hindsight, it seems ridiculous to even consider adding all of the “-ahs” that Seth/Jane uttered during those many hours of dictation, doesn’t it? Yet, this is a perfect example of how we translate subjective expressions to fit the molds of our own prejudiced perception to maintain our own comfort level in dealing with something new. This isn’t “bad” or offered as a criticism, but something that we naturally do. “Prejudiced perception” was a term invented by Jane herself to describe the propensity of our belief systems to filter and morph things to fit into our notions of propriety, expectation, and even linguistic habituation. (19) The following example, from an ESP class session on August 31, 1971, makes this point clearer. In the transcript that accompanies the audio CD, the following sentence was transcribed as:
The actual spoken version, transcribed phonetically, would be:
My point here is really about the initial resistance we all have to something unfamiliar, whether it be Seth’s “ahing” or Elias’ odd verbal syntax. After all, we are talking about the unique speech traits of transpersonal aspect selves, whose native state exists in a framework of consciousness alien to our own. So the resistance to Elias’ unusual verbal style is quite natural. Many of us resist anything that comes in a “foreign” language, too, whether it be a book, movie, or “channeled” entity. Also, consider the way we perceive someone like Stephen Hawking, the prize winning physicist and mathematician? He talks funny too! In fact, he has to rely on typing his thoughts into a speech synthesizer to communicate. Can you imagine listening to Stephen give a lecture? You might end up wanting to pull your hair out as you impatiently watch him slowly type away and his voice box drones on and on and on. And those typos! Oy, they drive me nuts! Still, that doesn’t mean what he has to say is not important. But seriously, another point to consider is how strange it was to first hear Seth/Jane’s accent on The Seth Video or the Seth Audio Collection after imagining it solely through the books for many years. Most people, myself included, got to know Seth and Jane in the 1970’s and 1980’s primarily through the millions of books sold, not through first-hand interaction, audio tapes, or video tapes. As the years pass, I continue to receive emails from people who feel that Elias’ syntax is initially problematic. Some overcome it, some don’t. The following is from a long time Seth reader whom I met at Seth-related conference that shows an emerging trend. She says,
Jane Roberts offered keen insights into the limits of spoken language to accurately express metaphysical concepts and subjective, inner experience. Even though the following was offered in the context of Seth’s choice of gender terminology, it also applies to the topic at hand.
Perhaps it is within Elias’ intent of “providing information with the least distortion” to actually change linguistic syntax just enough to deal with the “prejudiced nature” of English? I also took the opportunity to ask Rob Butts at a Seth Network Int’l. conference in June, 1999 how many people he thought had participated in Jane’s ESP classes over the years. We were sitting in the bar of the Holiday Inn in Elmira, NY, where he and Jane used to dance and drink with friends in earlier days. He responded, “around two or three hundred.” The point is that more people were reached intentionally through the dissemination of Seth books (and eventually audio tapes) than by coming to an ESP class. Therefore, the vast majority of Seth readers are just that: readers. Many never had the pleasure (and challenge!) of interacting with Seth/Jane in person, or ever heard Seth speak through audio tapes, CDs, or video. Similarly, the transcripts of Elias sessions as they presently exist on the Internet are the main medium used for disseminating this body of information. Luckily, as of this writing, people still have the opportunity to attend an Elias session and experience the phenomenon through direct personal interaction. But as time goes on, the majority of people reached by these types of phenomenon are reached more often through the written rather than spoken word, and even less through direct personal contact. For those who prefer reading, the Elias transcripts are in an authentic format that has yet to be affected by any publishing interests. But this is not to suggest in any way that Rob and Jane were adversely affected by commercial interests or anything so absurd. The point is that the Elias transcripts are presently difficult to read for the average new reader. Also, the depth and richness of the information are rarely present in any single transcript. In fact they are very similar to reading the transcripts from Jane’s ESP class. Oftentimes the people and their issues seem vague and Seth’s ideas somewhat shallow without the benefit of Rob’s copious notes to set the stage compared to Seth’s lengthy book dissertations. As such, each Elias transcript offers only a small nugget of the larger multidimensional puzzle being explored in a completely spontaneous format shaped by whomever Elias interacts with. And Seth is the one who reminded us that “spontaneity knows its own order.” (23) So it follows that there is an underlying intent and agenda at work. (This was also my main motivation for spending most of the past five years compiling and editing over 4,500 pages of transcripts into the Digests of Essential Elias, found on this website, since they provide much greater depth of all the main ideas introduced to date. Though they have been publicly available for only a year, the initial response has been overwhelmingly positive.) Still, Elias has indicated that he is not interested in writing books any time soon, if ever. (24) So why then is he choosing to be unconventional in this regard? To weed out the half-hearted? To prevent a new cult from being formed? Because he isn’t capable of it? Because there is less distortion inherent in a website of transcripts and Digests in hypertext format? Or because he has stated that for the most part his information will remain “outside of officially accepted belief systems” per his intent? Once again, only time will tell. This also raises the question – is the book format really the best way to disseminate metaphysical ideas as opposed to direct experience? After all, the ideas are not offered in some kind of symbolic logic or mathematical language. A book format helps the mind to focus on a greater depth of the ideas, granted. But there are limitations to the book format because it codes the ideas to fit within five-senses-only perception. Recall that the two volumes of Seth’s The “Unknown” Reality are the only Seth books intentionally not structured in chapter format so as to break up our linear, cause and effect perception. Seth mentioned that:
It was purposefully challenging when I first read The “Unknown” Reality without the familiar chapter format to “organize” things. This magnum opus is also the only Seth book with a self-contained “yoga” or curriculum of exercises called Practice Elements geared to awaken inner sensing and promote hyperception. So it follows that there was an underlying intent and agenda at work there, too. What are some Differences between Seth and Elias? We began our discussion of Seth and Elias by focusing upon common elements in both teachings because if we had begun with differences, we would have most likely gotten hopelessly entangled in semantical differences. At some point, however, we must begin to look at those differences and do our best to reconcile them. So let’s briefly return now to our exploration of the different “family” of consciousness intents held by each source. Seth says he belongs to the Sumari “family.” Elias says that he belongs to the Sumafi family. According to Elias, the Sumari are doers, artists, very creative, playful and their efforts tend to stir the proverbial pot. The Sumafi intent is to present information with the least distortion. Don’t get thrown by Seth’s earlier statement about not being considered an infallible source while doing his best to communicate with low distortion. While both are talking about distortion, the type and amount of distortion present in each source can be best understood through the lens of their different “family” intents. Can one source be “more” clear than the other in terms of the written word? And by what standards, what set of metrics do we discern the validity of Elias’ claim of holding the intent to offer information with “least distortion?” We can debate ad nauseam about the differences between low (Seth) and least (Elias) distortion and between definitions of their intent, but these arguments eventually spin endlessly on the “hamster wheel of better and worse,” which is simply not the point. Does a rose smell better than a gardenia? So then, what is the point? Just what criteria best determines the usefulness of any collected body of perennial ideas? The answer is simple and consistent throughout history. The potency or potentiality, in terms of personal use and shelf-life, is what ultimately determines the utility of any perennial teaching. In some Sufi traditions the word baraka is used to describe this same characteristic. In other words, can you consistently discern and apply these ideas to everyday situations and enhance the quality of your life in terms of health, abundance, loving relationships, creativity, and fulfillment? And can the ideas also enhance the fulfillment of the collective? Furthermore, can it penetrate to various levels of your consciousness, not just the egocentric self, where it will most promote overall growth? (26) Those bodies of work whose potency is strong will pass the test of time, similar to great music, literature, and theater. We still listen to Beethoven, read Aristotle, and watch Shakespearean drama because they contain the ability to reach deep into our psyche and communicate something beautiful and meaningful. Granted, these are subjective contexts, not absolute contexts defined by mathematical precision. Still, there are ways to determine the practical application and hence the potency of any body of perennial writing. Here is some useful advice from the ancient Dzogchen Buddhist tradition that sounds like it could have come from either Seth or Elias (note: the brackets are mine):
This reflects a key difference between traditional Eastern and Western teaching practices. In the West, we cram our heads full of book knowledge, memorize mathematical formulas, and hold the results of standardized tests as the highest, most accurate measure of achievement and competency. In the East, it is only through intuition that Truth is ever approached. And yet, both Seth and Elias tell us in their own ways that experience is our best teacher, that only through learning to consciously use our inner senses will we ever understand that we really are multidimensional personalities. Seth said:
Let’s return now to our exploration of the different “family” intents between Seth and Elias. We’ve already heard from Elias. According to Seth, the Sumari are initiators, naturally playful – inventors, and relatively unfettered. They are impatient however. They will be found in the arts and in the less conventional sciences. According to Rob, the Sumari provide a cultural, spiritual, and artistic heritage for the species. Seth says that the Sumafi intent deals primarily with teaching, their primary interest of passing on knowledge to others. According to Rob, they transmit “originality” through teaching. Are these “family” definitions just another case of three “blind men” describing the different parts of a post-metaphysical elephant? You say po-ta-to and I say po-tah-to? Or is it apples and oranges? Obviously, we are hoping to raise more questions than provide answers here. It is difficult to be definitive when dealing with such an esoteric concept as a “family” of consciousness intent. Still, it makes sense that Elias, Seth, and Rob would tend to use their own vocabulary to describe them. On the other hand, it also follows that Elias would use “alternate” terminology to describe the same post-metaphysical phenomena as Seth, so as not to lend energy to the creation of a new cult around their ideas, as mentioned earlier, per his intent. Still, is one better or worse? Is one more accurate? No! They are only words and nothing more. The words they use to describe these qualities within consciousness are not the qualities themselves. They serve only as secondary representations for the purpose of verbal communication. So, ultimately, the ideas described by words are more important than the words themselves. That is, it is more important to discern what Seth or Elias mean conceptually, not what labels they choose to use. Regarding the relationship between the different “family” intents held by Seth and himself, Elias said:
Even though Elias appears to be describing concrete “things” in the above excerpt, again, it is very important to remember that he is referring to a quality of intention that also applies to nonphysical consciousness, which is beyond “thing-ness.” It is very easy to turn this idea into something akin to tribal or astrological designations. And when we do that, we separate them into better (us) and worse (them) which, again, is not the point. The point is to help us understand, in objective terms, the subjective nature of multidimensional personality from individual and collective perspectives. But the question remains, given that they would use different words for some ideas, why then are Seth and Elias using the exact same nine “families?” To my knowledge no one else has ever mentioned the “families” metaphor in this way before Seth did in 1975. It appears to be a newly emerging mythos to help us better understand ourselves in relationship to the nature of the multidimensional psyche and multiverse. The closest expression to the nine families I’ve found is the enneagram that came from the Sufi tradition to the West through a teacher named Gurdjieff early in the twentieth century. (30) And if the “families” metaphor accurately describes the primary inner archetypes of the collective consciousness, we should find it in some variation in the myths from all over the world, but I’ll save that for another essay. The reason we’ve spent so much time on the “families” metaphor is that this area of the Seth material has been greatly expanded by Elias. Elias is building upon the foundation laid by Seth in much the same way music historians now consider Brahms’ First Symphony to be “Beethoven’s Tenth.” In other words, they offer complementary bodies of material that build upon the same tradition of perennial ideas. Though the words are new, these ideas are not! Just like the basic chords and intervals of music did not change from the time of Beethoven to Brahms, Seth’s and Elias’ offerings are nothing more than recent translations of perennial ideas into the context of Western belief systems and the English language. One preceded the other and served as a stepping stone for the next. And so on, and so on, and shoo-bee doo-bee doo-bee. Like Beethoven and Brahms, Seth and Elias do not exist in a vacuum. There are many bodies of work that explore similar ideas. For example, The Course in Miracles and the work of Edgar Cayce preceded the Seth material. More recently, the Conversations with God series by Neale Donald Walsch deals with perennial ideas. All of these works were produced through some sort of channeling. None of these sources come as close to the depth, clarity, and low distortion in describing the nature of inner reality, multidimensional personality and the multiverse as Seth and Elias do, however. And this is not to say that these other works have no utility, they do! All of them serve a purpose and follow an underlying intent and agenda. As always, it is ultimately up to readers to make their own determination. But what works today may not work tomorrow. And what doesn’t work today, may suddenly work tomorrow. This is the nature of our ever changing consciousness and belief systems. They evolve along with our experience. At this point, it’s time for Elias to shed more light on his intent and relationship to Seth in his own words:
Four Major Conceptual Areas that Build Upon the Seth Material The following four conceptual areas provide an overview that builds upon the Seth material that I have discerned to date. There are many others, however, as we will see later. But these four are foundational in terms of the multidimensional psyche, multiverse, and conscious creation. So it is here that we will begin with specific examples. Hyperlinks to Digests of Essential Elias – compilations of excerpts on related topics – provide Elias’ ideas for comparison.
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Digests: find out more about: There is much more to this story that is just beginning to clarify. Seth and Elias both refer to themselves as “energy personality essences,” or some variation of those three words, and consistently address people by a name different than their given name; Seth terms it an entity name and Elias terms it an essence name. The only other channeled sources of which I am presently aware who do the same thing are Ron Churchman who channels Patel (34), Ted Bair who channels C9 (35), and Serge Grandbois who channels Kris. (36) However, none of these latter sources has produced a body of work that approaches the depth and richness of Jane Roberts or Mary Ennis. Still, the intent of the entity/essence name is quite clear. It recognizes and acknowledges our subjective source selves; those deeper, nonphysical aspects of our psyche. They do not perceive us as single individuals, but rather as the tip of a multidimensional “iceberg” of personality, where the name refers to the entire iceberg (all of our personalities), not just the tip (the ego). This reveals a depth of perception and understanding lacking in more distorted sources who tend to relate to us as single, ego-based personalities. Additional Similarities One of the most powerful and compelling characteristics shared by Seth and Elias is that of the anti-guru. That is, they consistently turn the focus back upon the individual, sometimes gently and sometimes not so gently forcing us into “the mirror of Self” – that metaphorical place where our expectations, thoughts, emotions, feelings, and desire are all mirrored through our beliefs. As Seth said earlier, if we believe something to be true, it is! As our beliefs change, so too does our perception about what is true. So it is through looking within “the mirror of Self” that we begin to identify and recognize the beliefs that we use to create what is true in our lives. For example, it is common to say “you hurt my feelings” or “you really pissed me off” but the truth of the matter is that our feelings are the by-products of beliefs we hold, often invisibly. We create our hurt or anger as a result of the way our beliefs filter the energy projected at us by others in the form of words and actions. We have the free will to choose how we respond, to create whatever we desire. Yet we have been patterned to believe through deeply ingrained cultural belief systems of victimhood that other people create our reality and perception for us. They hurt our feelings! We have the whole damn thing backwards. We hurt our own feelings! Once you understand this fundamental concept, you are on the way to understanding how conscious creation works, if only at the outer ego (egocentric) level. Another refreshing characteristic shared by Seth and Elias is that they are not trying to win converts, disciples, or followers. Instead, they consistently nurture us to trust our own direct, subjective experiences, the mobility of our consciousness and creativity, to realize that the problems we face are self-created, purposeful, and that all solutions are accessible within “the mirror of Self” and nowhere else. Seth says:
Elias says something similar. He consistently redirects all comers to concentrate upon themselves and how they create their own perception; to notice, identify, recognize, and address their own belief systems. Though we tend to be naturally drawn to any source of wisdom greater than our own like a moth to a flame, after interacting with Elias for any period of time one inevitably is turned, oftentimes kicking and screaming, into “the mirror of Self”:
In other words, thinking, talking about, and reducing post-metaphysical ideas into intellectual constructs without the support of intuitive experience (hyperception again) will only take us part of the way toward understanding conscious creation. By focusing upon our own perception we begin to understand the many ways in which we create every aspect of our lives. This isn’t to promote the selfish, egocentric view so prevalent in our society today but to promote the idea that only through observing and more fully engaging our multidimensional nature will we ever learn how we create our reality and who we really are. Rather than seeking our own answers to health, love, and abundance issues outside of us, we ultimately find the answers within. Another way to conceptualize this is through the analogy of tasting something. For example, can we ever know the taste of honey by just talking about it? We can intellectualize about its atomic structure, molecular attributes, weight, color, texture, and so on, but until we taste it, we won’t ever know what it tastes like. Similar analogies are used in many perennial traditions to encourage an awareness of direct, subjective perception of these ideas through our inner senses so we that can decide for ourselves what is true and what is illusion.
Earlier I included an excerpt in which Seth says unequivocally that he is not to be considered an infallible source. Using that as a precedent, I took the opportunity to ask Elias the same thing during a private session also attended by my wife, Joanne, in 1998. After all, the Pope of the Catholic Church is considered an infallible source. And many scientists act as though their insights into the nature of reality are infallible because they have been trained to deal with what they believe to be absolute, empirical facts through the lens of five-senses-only perception.
When comparing these two sources of information, the point is not to conclude that Elias is “better” or “worse” than Seth, just as it’s impossible to show that Brahms is a “better” composer than Beethoven. Yet many people seem to jump on one or the other bandwagon, getting lost amid surface level differences in semantics and losing sight of the underlying common elements. But again, it’s not about being better or worse. The Seth and Elias material is complementary. They are not competing bodies of information. In other words, they allow us to discern ever more subtle conceptualizations from each body of work. They play off of each other, amplifying and expanding their respective descriptions of multidimensional reality. Since it is impossible to ever completely translate subjective reality into objective terms, each source fulfills their intent by offering helpful information about the nature of consciousness geared to help us achieve a deeper understanding of who we are and why we are here, individually and as a people. Neither claims to offer a complete system of thought or to be an infallible source without distortion. So the rest is, ultimately, up to each one of us to figure out for ourselves. As Seth said, “all roads lead to the inner self.” (38) As I like to say, all roads lead to the “mirror of Self.” Similarities and Differences: Coincidence, Ripoff, or Evidence of a Larger Principle at Work? The following is an introduction from Elias that provides some insight into why he is offering information at this time and his relationship to Seth: “This essence is that of Elias, within the family of Sumafi. Within your dimension presently you engage a collective event, which is translated into a global event, which you recognize as a shift in consciousness. Individuals holding no knowledge of information that you have availed yourselves of recognize also this shift. They do not hold an understanding objectively of the workings, so to speak, of this shift in consciousness, but they are aware, as they feel a shifting within themselves and as they notice changes moving throughout your objective creations – a new allowance of subjective information that you have chosen to allow to bleed through into your awareness objectively. It is reflected in all of your creations – all of your arts, all of your sciences, even your religions. There is a growing awareness. At this point it’s time to stop speculating and put this comparison to the acid test. The following table highlights the similarities and differences between the information offered by Seth/Jane Roberts and Elias/Mary Ennis in greater detail. The extant Seth/Jane books are listed so that concepts can be found in their indices. Each Elias concept is linked to a Digest that contains a greater depth than is to be found in any single transcript. If you still have serious doubts about the complementary relationship between these two sources, the following research – the result of over twenty-six years of studying Seth and five years of studying Elias – will make or break my case.
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