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Tuesday, July 16, 2002

<  Session 1133 (Private/Phone)  >

“An Allowance of Playfulness”

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Myranda).

Elias arrives at 10:55 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon, my friend!

ANJULI: Good afternoon, Elias! I thought we start with some questions of friends.

ELIAS: Very well. Did you enjoy your party?

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, it is just so great that you are asking this now, because I had wanted to start my session with that and then did not do it. The island party was just so great. That was such a fun! People connected with the island and projected to it and then reported details, especially Connor, and I had not told them that I had felt these details about my island. It was just such a fun. (Elias laughs)

I wanted to ask you about this party on the island. My feeling is that there were also focuses of essences present who don’t belong to the forum but are connected with you through their interest for the Alterversity, so they are connected with us.


ANJULI: And other dimensional focuses were there also?


ANJULI: And you gave a session.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. Ha ha ha!

ANJULI: It was a tremendous joy!

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of your allowance of playfulness.

ANJULI: It was very unexpected for me, because I somehow had been thinking about how to more introduce this creation of my island and of your Alterversity in a playful way, and then suddenly this birthday fun came up and this was such an interesting start for that. People keep on dreaming about the Alterversity. Is this correct that this is happening more often now?


ANJULI: That’s fascinating. I experienced our interconnectedness. It is sort of very relaxing because I am not so much worrying any more about bringing information out through sessions or in any other objective way, because I really see that it gets out in another way also.

ELIAS: You are correct.

ANJULI: This is also part of the shift, that we more feel objectively what we get subjectively? So we kind of more develop the objectifying of the “innernet” connection instead of the internet connection?

ELIAS: Yes. This is the movement into balance.

ANJULI: Oh, that’s great, Elias. (Pause)

ELIAS: And you wish to offer questions of other individuals?

ANJULI: Yes. I also wish to talk with you a little bit more about the Alterversity and about your intense one, but probably we can do that later so that I have the questions out of my head.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: For Allie, she wants to know if Mata Hari is a focus of her essence.

ELIAS: An observing essence.

ANJULI: Then she would like to know about her connection with Jeanne d’Arc. She feels drawn to her and feels to be knowing her or somehow identifies with her, so she was wondering about that.

ELIAS: And the question is what is her association?

ANJULI: Ja, or her connection if she has a focus near her or if she is a focus of her or if she is observing essence. She thought she is a focus, I think, but was not sure.

ELIAS: A friend.

ANJULI: Wynnett would be interested in getting the essence name of a close friend of her who has disengaged. Her name is Nora A. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Ellika, E-L-L-I-K-A (el EE kah).

ANJULI: Wynnett would like to know the number of her future focuses.

ELIAS: Twelve.

ANJULI: Then she was interested in getting one or two focuses that she has with me, and I was feeling into that and my impression was that we share focus together amongst the Inuit.

ELIAS: One, yes.

ANJULI: And she is together with me and Ahmed in Ahmed’s Maya focus. She connects with the Mayas a lot.


ANJULI: So she is there also?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Ahmed had the impression that I have twin focuses there, they are twins and both of them are focuses of my essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Are the others of the Dreamteam with our Maya focuses also? Or some of them?

ELIAS: Yes, all.

ANJULI: Oh great, I had that feeling. Then I also thought that Wynnett has a focus with my focus that is together with your sorcerer focus in Scotland, a male one of Wynnett.

ELIAS: Yes, correct.

ANJULI: So mine is also a male one and your sorcerer focus trained me to be a sorcerer, too?


ANJULI: And I knew the focus of Wynnett when I was still trained by your sorcerer focus? I feel the others of the Dreamteam to be there too, but I knew them later when I was a sorcerer myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Lyryn would like to know the number of his future focuses. (Pause)

ELIAS: Seventy-one.

ANJULI: Roiann would like to know her total number and future number of focuses. (Pause)

ELIAS: Total numbering, 896; future numbering, 431.

ANJULI: Oh, that’s interesting, half of her focuses. She recently connected with a future focus during meditation, and this future focus told her that you had made this connection. Is this correct, this connection between her and the future focus was happening like that?

ELIAS: In an offering of energy and supportiveness but merely in facilitating, not actually generating the connection.

ANJULI: Ja, the future focus expressed, I think, that you were helping Roiann in some way to find which future focus was in that moment the best for her to connect with, something like that.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: For Callicoe also the total and future focus number. (Pause)

ELIAS: Total numbering, 1714; future, 399.

ANJULI: Then for Ricanna, the same?

ELIAS: Total numbering, 1011; future, 545.

ANJULI: Why are some creating so many future focuses, half of their total focus number? Are many people doing that or is this more an exception?

ELIAS: It is not an exception. In actuality I may express to you, in relation to all of the essences that generate focuses within this physical dimension, approximately half choose to be manifesting what you would term to be significant numbers futurely.

In this forum thus far, most individuals that have presented themselves do incorporate more focuses past than they do future; but in relation to all of the essences that participate in this physical dimension, this is not actually an accurate representation of the choice of essences.

ANJULI: That’s why we thought we generally have less numbers in the future, because usually people in the forum have not so many focuses in the future. Interesting. Oh, and then we need the future focus number for Ahmed. (Pause)

ELIAS: Thirty-six.

ANJULI: I wanted to ask something about Callicoe which I am not sure about. I had the impression that she has a focus in the time of my focus as the Empress Sisi of Austria. She must have something to do with the building of the Castle Neuschwanstein. So could it be that she even is the so-called mad King Ludwig?

ELIAS: No, but does incorporate a focus in that time framework in association with the building.

ANJULI: As she is a Zuli-belonging essence, could she probably be an architect or something like that of this building?

ELIAS: A constructor not the architect, but...

ANJULI: She did the actual the physical building, not the planning of it?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Since we are now in that time, is Giselle the mother of the husband of my Sisi focus, Archduchess Sophie of Austria? (Pause)


ANJULI: And is Leland the Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria, the husband of Sisi? (Pause)


ANJULI: And Allesander is the Czar Alexander II?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

ANJULI: Then we need to find him. He must be somewhere there. He must have a focus close to Andrel, Leland and me. He has a focus there, where we are?


ANJULI: We still have to find him! Oh, we will. He will find him.

Elias, we were curious about the connection of the four essences of us – Leland, Allesander, Andrel and Myranda – and about the A-N-D in our tones. At first we thought we were related through fragmentation, but this is not the case, I think. So we fragmented from different essences and then somehow our tone came out to be so similar?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: When they started to connect in private mails to me, each one of them on their own without knowing each other, the mails were similar and the way of how they connected. They started to do projections to me or felt me visiting them, and there was a lot of familiarity until I then at some point started to write emails to all three of them. So we started with this A-N-D connection. We discover now so many things daily, Elias.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Offering yourselves considerable information, are you not?

ANJULI: Oh, yes. And about the directions, Leland would be west, Andrel north, Allessander east, and me south.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Has this something to do with the Mayans? Allesander felt some Mayan stuff there because they connected colors with directions or gods with directions. Do we have focuses amongst the Mayans which were interested in directions?

ELIAS: Inca.

ANJULI: I knew I have Inca focuses, too. And how did we find us? I was radiating my Myranda frequency and they felt drawn to it?

ELIAS: In this present now?

ANJULI: Yes, in this present now.

ELIAS: Yes. Be remembering, once again, you all are interconnected. As you draw yourselves to this forum, whether you are actively engaging interaction objectively with each other or not, you are all projecting an energy which does interconnect with each other and in a manner of speaking meshes together as a collective.

ANJULI: I was musing about Leland, Andrel and Allesander all have A-N-D in their essence name and some sort of E-L or L-E. I have the A-N-D but not the E-L or L-E, and they are Sumari and I am Milumet. We are curious about all that. But I don’t know, it’s just so... I had to think of you. I know that they did not fragment from you and me, but they have names as if ... they have island names. I was wondering about that, and they are all three Sumaris. So I don’t know; something is there.

ELIAS: A similarity of tone and also of qualities expressed.

ANJULI: Are our focuses we have in the time of 1880 sort of lending energy to us now?

ELIAS: Yes, but I shall remind you that all of your focuses, in a manner of speaking, offer energy to you and an exchange of energy, for they are all you.

ANJULI: Then probably the more specific question is could it be that this time is another chapter or something in this shift book?

ELIAS: No, not in that particular focus.

ANJULI: I was wondering about Connor. I sometimes connect the name Condor with him. We were wondering if that is an essence which fragmented from my and his essence or if that is a fluctuation within his essence name.

ELIAS: Actually neither. This is associated with a preference of that essence in association with the physical manifestation of birds, which is also a connection with the essence of Rose, which is quite influencing of this preference.

ANJULI: She is dispersed, too.

ELIAS: Correct. In this, the reason that you express the identification of this particular manifestation of bird is associated with its size and grace.

ANJULI: Very interesting. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANJULI: My future focus in New Zealand, Katie Shelly, is she using the name Shelly Shore in her writings?

ELIAS: At times, yes.

ANJULI: Did she start with the use of this name by herself or did she start that because of my communication with her?

ELIAS: Partially both, for there is an influence and a recognition of that influence, but the actual choice of name was generated by that focus.

ANJULI: Is she Sumafi aligned?


ANJULI: Elias, I was just telling Michael that this is so amusing because I now know how Sumafis are. I just need to feel into her. She is interested in exact history research. I think she is doing that by finding past focuses and then they create some sort of movies or what, which are exactly as the historic focuses were looking like.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: That’s amusing! She was at the beginning a bit challenging to connect with, I must say, Elias. She is a bit different than my other focuses I connected with.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Much more rigid.

ANJULI: Yes, she appeared to me like that, and then she learned to be a little bit different with me. Could that be?

ELIAS: Yes, but quite precise and expresses much attention to detail.

ANJULI: Oh, that is just so amusing, Elias! Is she probably even thought focused?


ANJULI: Oh, my goodness. And soft also?


ANJULI: Like Michael. Isn’t that interesting? Do Leland, Andrel and Allesander have focuses with her who are also doing this historic research stuff?

ELIAS: Yes, there are focuses of these essences participating in that focus, but not all are participating in the same activity.

ANJULI: Are they all male?

ELIAS: One female – Leland.

ANJULI: They are not of the same family, brothers and sister of her?


ANJULI: It’s just the connection which feels like that.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Now, let’s see. Did I cover all of that? I think so. Well, there are of course many questions I could still ask. But now let’s come to Alterversity and island things and to the tapes of our sessions.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: Elias, I again created that I have different memories about what we said in the session than is on the tape. A few sentences are not there, but I heard you physically saying it and me physically saying it. So that is the same as what I created with some past tapes of my sessions?


ANJULI: And Elias, it was so amusing, because for example the sentence of you telling me you can create all of it, which was then the reason for why I did the session about creating the Alterversity, is not on that tape.

ELIAS: But this offers you examples of the interaction which occurs within our exchange, which in actuality is more than what is being expressed objectively in language and in conversation.

ANJULI: Ja, but how then did I create this sentence? I mean, the sentence “you can create all of it” was for me a language sentence which I heard on phone. Did I translate it into hearing you saying it on phone?

ELIAS: Yes, it is a translation. Let me express to you, my friend, this is quite automatic. You may be allowing yourself to be receiving or connecting with information and there is subjective interaction which is occurring, and in that action the automatic expression that you engage is to translate that information to the objective awareness, and you translate this through thought.

ANJULI: That’s so interesting. The same thing happened when I created the Alterversity. I asked, “Is it now created?” and you said, “Yes,” and that is not on the tape. Then I asked, “And now I do it like I do it with the sand of the island?” and that is on the tape again. So these two sentences are also not on the tape. They are like the other sentence, the “you can create all of it”?

ELIAS: Correct. For thought, as I have expressed, is a mechanism of translation and what it translates is information which is offered through different avenues of communication. It also translates information which is communicated from the subjective awareness to the objective awareness.

This is the point of incorporating thought within your physical manifestation, for it is translating information. Therefore, that which is experienced and expressed subjectively is not hidden from the objective awareness. As you move these two awarenesses more into an expression of balance, you allow yourself much more freedom in translating the expressions of the subjective in an objective manner.

ANJULI: I could, for example, not just hear you talking with me in my head but as a voice outside of the sessions, I mean in the room talking?

ELIAS: Yes, and in actuality some individuals have allowed themselves to generate that action.

ANJULI: Oh, great! When you told me that I engaged interaction on the island with your aspect that I call the intense one, I was so, so, so surprised about you saying that. I was surprised because I felt it had been a physical meeting and not a projection from me. In that moment I thought I have been there physically and I have forgotten.

ELIAS: But I may express to you, my friend, that projection IS a physical manifestation, and dependent upon the manner in which you project, you may actually project yourself in solidity in a physical manner in association with different physical locations. This is what I have expressed previously in association with travel through space rather than around space.

ANJULI: For example when I visited Timothy, and that felt so real. It felt more physical than other projections I do.


ANJULI: This was close to be very solid or what?

ELIAS: Yes. This also is an action which is associated with this shift in consciousness, a recognition of your genuine abilities to be moving much less restricted than you have been familiar with previously.

ANJULI: Then this means whenever Ahmed is connecting with the Alterversity in his dreams or meditations or what, he is sort of physically there?

ELIAS: At times.

ANJULI: When the Alterversity was created, it was created on a certain day. But it had nothing to do with time, because it was then in that moment existing. So it is sort of outside of time, or what?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

ANJULI: In the moment when it existed it was...

ELIAS: time, but also not.

ANJULI: Were Ordin and all those from his Regional Area 5 which are connected with him helping in energy for the physical creating of the island on which the Alterversity is and for the creating of the buildings of the Alterversity? We had talked about that in the first Alterversity session and had talked about these imageries in my book, which are related to Ordin, so I just wanted to ask that again.

ELIAS: Yes, although adjust this identification of Regional Area to 4.

ANJULI: Then Ordin is also in Regional Area 4 like you but in another dimension?


ANJULI: Oh, that was another question. So in your Regional Area there are several dimensions?


ANJULI: Then he is from another dimension. Ja, but then you must have something to do with this dimension because Inmi was coming from where the character comes from who represents Ordin. So are you from that dimension and are now living in your dimension, or do you have an aspect in the dimension of Ordin or what?

ELIAS: In all of these areas.

ANJULI: What? In all dimensions of the Regional Area 4?


ANJULI: And in the others beyond, too?


ANJULI: You are in them in the same way like me being there also, although I am physically focused. But I am also there where you are, because we said when I disengage I will be a nonphysical essence, and there is no time and so I am there.


ANJULI: My focus I connected with which is your dimension is there, and also I have others in the other regional areas like you have?


ANJULI: Then I must have connected also with an aspect of you which is the dimension of Ordin somehow, for the creating of the Alterversity?


ANJULI: And does Ordin have two focuses in your dimension which are also teaching at the Alterversity?


ANJULI: Ja, because there are two characters in my book which I related to the character that represents Ordin. Ah, Elias, that’s interesting. The people which are at the Alterversity, they are not all of the same time framework? Are there also people from the future?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: And they are interested in helping us in our time, those that are in the now, to go there?

ELIAS: Yes, which you may tap into.

ANJULI: Yes, that is interesting, because I felt that. Timothy is also visiting the Alterversity often physically?

ELIAS: At times, yes.

ANJULI: Ja, I felt him to be there physically. Oh, and then Elias, about your intense one. In one of your earlier sessions I read how somebody asked you about nonphysical essences and if some are doing energy exchange like you are doing and some are not interested in that, you said...

(Elias begins coughing and continues for several minutes) Oh, is something with Michael? Elias?

ELIAS: Continue.

ANJULI: In this session you talked about nonphysical essences and that some are doing physical appearances. You were asked if you do that too and you said it is not interesting for you and takes lots of energy to do that.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: When I read about that a couple of months ago and so much desired for to meet you physically, I thought that I will create something which is interesting for you, and regarding the energy I will find a way so that I can take part of the energy which you would need for to be physical. Is this what we were doing then?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the type of manifestation.

Now; in this, recognize that you generate a physical manifestation through your perception. Therefore you may create an actual physical manifestation of myself within your reality in association with my projection of energy.

ANJULI: And this would be different from if you would be doing a physical appearance to somebody who does not translate you, and therefore it would take lots of energy for you to do that? I am not sure how to ask.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. For I may be projecting what you may term to be a streamline of energy through different layers of consciousness and manifest what you term within your physical dimension to be an apparition, which is not entirely solid in physical matter.

But as I am not engaging attention within your physical dimension any longer in your terms, this type of action is requiring a concentration of energy to be manifesting that type of expression within your actual physical dimension. In this presently, translating in your terms, this is not an interest or curiosity that I express. Therefore I choose not to be engaging that action, although I have at times briefly previously.

ANJULI: And you were then not fully solid?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Like in these visits you did with me?

ELIAS: Now; in some expressions, momentarily I have chosen to be manifesting a temporary projection in concentration of energy into an actual physical form.

ANJULI: A real solid form?


ANJULI: Then what I am creating with your aspect, the intense one, is a translation, so that would be done by my energy. Then you are physical, solid for me, but you don’t have to reach through the many layers of consciousness and focus this much.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: So when I create that through my perception is that then similar to when I created the physical form of my stillborn baby?


ANJULI: It is because I love you so much, and then I create you physically?


Now; in this, in the moments that I have chosen to be projecting an actual physical manifestation, that has been quite momentarily because it is requiring such a concentration of energy. But that energy is recognized by other individuals and translated through their perception, and thusly the individual may project the actual physical manifestation of my energy and their encounter with that physical expression may be projected, in your terms, for much longer of a time framework than I am actually manifesting. For you are generating the manifestation through your perception, and you may sustain that much longer if you are so choosing.

ANJULI: It does not matter if that projecting of a physical manifestation is still done by you, because everybody is using the perception to create what they create. Therefore some people created that allowance that you took that much energy for to create that physical manifestation...

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And I am doing it in the way that I create that physical form like I did with my daughter.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then you would, for example, be at the Alterversity and other people could participate in that perception and physically interact with you if they are so choosing?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: When we do it like that it can be longer, it does not need to be short?

ELIAS: Correct. You may choose, in your terms, to sustain the projection of the actual physical interaction, for you are creating the manifestation in association with my projection of energy.

ANJULI: For example, if there would have been an essence participating in that creation of my daughter then she would alive and it would not have been short. She would have been longer with me, if there would have been an essence and if I would have translated it that different?

ELIAS: Correct, for you are interactive with an energy projection of another essence.

ANJULI: When I create this physical form of you because of my perception and because of loving you so much and all that, then I would do this physical creation and you would participate in energy in that?


ANJULI: Now I am understanding. That’s interesting. And that is done by that focus of you, that aspect that I call the intense one.


ANJULI: But your aspects are anyway not separated, so that is for you all the same. They are all aware of each other and of what the others ones are doing?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then for example, what is the intense one now doing, in this moment?

ELIAS: And your impression?

ANJULI: He is participating somehow now, as we talk about him. Or are you him?

ELIAS: This is the subjective interaction which is occurring.

ANJULI: Oh, the intense one is doing the subjective interaction, and the other one doing the objective interaction is the one who is usually doing the sessions?


ANJULI: Oh, Elias, you are just so interesting! (Elias laughs)

Oh, and Elias, does all my interest into your dimension and into your regional area have something to do with my transition? I entered it when I joined this forum and when my interest into you started to be so strong.

ELIAS: It is associated with your choice to be engaging this action of transition, yes.

ANJULI: And also because of my intent?


ANJULI: About my Borledim alignment, Ahmed always calls it Bordelim. Am I aligning with a subdivision of the Borledim family?

ELIAS: No. This is commonly expressed by individuals. It is merely a misinterpretation of pronunciation.

ANJULI: A nice one – sounds interesting. Ja, because I am now more nice with my Borledim alignment since all of the wonderful childbirth imageries I meanwhile had and the new perspective of what I can create, Elias. The all of it, and All That Is in the all of it.

ELIAS: Correct. (Laughs) Whatever you choose.

ANJULI: Am I the Italian philosopher Pico della Mirandola?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

ANJULI: Is Allesander Desiderius Erasmus?


ANJULI: Oh. We were wrong with that! But we will survive that, Elias. What a shock ... no. (Laughs) We are so good in finding focuses, it really matters not when we are from time to time wrong.

ELIAS: You do allow yourselves quite an opening in this expression in connecting with other focuses, and offer yourselves a generous expression of trust in your allowance.

ANJULI: Yes. Am I the mother of Leland’s focus Archimedes LeBeau, the French one?


ANJULI: My name is Florence?


ANJULI: I know Leland’s Nazi focus Eric, and I am a focus that came from East Prussia, and he knows me with the name Tanya?


ANJULI: Is she a Jew with another name and then took the name Tanya? Allesander thought that.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Leland and I both had independently of each other the same interesting impressions about that village where he lives and where she is, too. That was interesting. Is the impression we had about that area correct?


ANJULI: Yes, in this we were quite sure about Florence and Tanya. Does Florence LeBeau know the focus Giselle has in the French Revolution with the same name, Giselle? I have the feeling I have a second one there who knows her French focus of Giselle.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: A male one.


ANJULI: Is Giselle one of Giselle’s spy focuses?

ELIAS: Intermittently.

ANJULI: That was a lot of information, Elias. So interesting.

The future focus Ashrah met in a dream, you said this was a focus of my sister. Was this a focus of my Vold sister, Phisca?


ANJULI: From time to time I ask you about my impressions and then I get corrects or corrections, and then I learn again more about feeling into all of that.

ELIAS: Correct. This offers you information and practice.

ANJULI: Can I ask two more little focus questions, or do we have to stop?

ELIAS: You may.

ANJULI: Is the elder sister of my Sisi focus, Helene called Nene, a focus of my Sumari sister, Ophed?


ANJULI: Is Irma Sztaray, the one who traveled with my Sisi focus and was with her when she died, a focus of my mother Birdeed?


ANJULI: Does not matter. (Elias laughs) She must be somewhere. I will find her.

ELIAS: Very well!

ANJULI: I think we are done. We have anyway more sessions coming up, Elias.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend.

ANJULI: I will meanwhile talk to you outside of the sessions and will practice translating you more objectively in my inner talks with you, and of course I will be with you at the island and the Alterversity.

ELIAS: Very well, and I shall comply.

ANJULI: Yes. Thank you very much for this fun session. I forgot that I was sick when I started this session.

ELIAS: Ah! Sufficient distraction.

Very well, my friend, I shall be anticipating our next interaction, and...

ANJULI: Me too, Elias, and I love you very much.

ELIAS: ...and I offer my affection to you also. To you in lovingness, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir, Elias.

Elias departs at 11:57 AM.

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