Wednesday, October 09, 2002
ďValidations of Impressions and InvestigationsĒ
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Margot (Giselle).
Elias arrives at 11:56 AM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
MARGOT: Good morning, my dear friend! You know that since I last talked to you, Iíve seen you. I saw you in Connecticut and it was wonderful! I want to talk just a minute about that, if I can.
I actually canít recall a more wonderful trip that weíve made back there. From the moment that I stepped off the plane in Hartford, tears came to my eyes, and I had this overwhelming sense that Iíd come home. That sense stayed with me all weekend that we were back there. It had never occurred to me that I had connections in Connecticut other than my great-great-great-great-grandparents, who had settled there for a while. Do I have focuses there that Iím not aware of?
MARGOT: Well, that was really interesting, because I had never thought of Connecticut until I got there. It was very energizing to me, and the communication that just kept coming through was that I was home. Did I live there for a long time?
MARGOT: Iíll have to get into that sometime and research that. I also was very moved while I was there, because I really felt for the first time the energizing effect of this keen sense of lack of separation between new and old members of the forum that I met there. It was so energizing, and I also had a great sense that I released a lot of blocked energy. That got me to thinking that maybe perhaps when like-minded people get together with all of that energy, that positive energy that we communicate to each other, it wasnít just me that was able to release a lot of blocked energy. Would this be so, that a gathering of such a group has that healing effect on us?
ELIAS: Yes, and is quite powerful, for the energy is combined collectively, and if focused in one direction with that collective, it may be quite affecting of all of the individuals and you may manipulate that energy in quite beneficial manners.
MARGOT: Oh, I really believe that! I had never really understood that before, and having learned finally how that felt to release all of that, itís been very helpful in helping me to recognize when Iím blocking energy and what to do about it. Iíve really come a long way with that and Iíve learned a lot. Iím so grateful that we had the experience that we had there and at all of the group sessions, but it was especially strong there. Iím counting on being at every group session there is from now on because itís such a release. Weíre going to be seeing you in Fresno at the end of this month...
MARGOT: Everythingís coming up roses, Elias! (Elias laughs) There are five new friends on the Elias List who would like to have their essence information Ė name, families and orientation. The first one is John P. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Liam, L-I-A-M (LEE um).
MARGOT: And his families?
ELIAS: And shall you offer impressions?
MARGOT: He has none at all. He didnít give me any, and I donít know him very well.
ELIAS: Very well. Essence family, Vold; alignment, Sumari; orientation, common.
MARGOT: The next one is Bri; she just calls herself Bri. I think Mary knows her. She lives in Canada. (Pause)
ELIAS: And this is a request for essence name or merely families?
MARGOT: Yes, she wants her essence name and the other information that weíre used to getting. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Camile (kuh MEAL).
ELIAS: One L. Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.
MARGOT: The next one would be Lynn B. Sheís an old friend of mine. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Aram (AIR um).
MARGOT: A-R-A-M? Like Vicís son?
ELIAS: Yes. Essence family ... your impression?
MARGOT: Sheís either Tumold or aligned that way I would say, and perhaps Sumafi or Sumari.
ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Tumold.
MARGOT: Thereís a lady by the name of Jan. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Mavis (MAY vis).
ELIAS: Correct. Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Gramada; orientation, common.
MARGOT: Thereís a woman by the name of Ioanna. Sheís always spelled it I-O-A-N-N-A. She was born in Greece. She has always been under the impression that this is also her essence name. Would that be so?
MARGOT: Her mother, being Greek, has always called her ďee-WAN-na.Ē Ioanna feels the correct pronunciation of her essence name is ďeye-OH-na.Ē Can you help her on that?
ELIAS: This is correct.
MARGOT: So sheís calling herself by the correct pronunciation?
MARGOT: Sheíll be so pleased to hear that.
In follow-up to the last session that you and I had about my piercing the veils of death, shortly after we talked I seemed to make an incredible leap one night, when instead of projecting that a disengaged person was at my front door, I somehow managed to project a dead guy coming into my bedroom, right through the corner of the room. It was so exciting! I think that that dead guy was you in our shared focus in Grasse, France, and that you were giving me a little push of energy to get me going, so to speak, so that I could finally be accomplishing. Was it you?
ELIAS: Yes. (Smiling)
MARGOT: Oh, thank you! You had a little round face and you just grinned from ear to ear, and I loved it! (Elias laughs)
After that night, every three or four nights or so, some other dead guy that Iíve been married to in other focuses would come, and I was enjoying it immensely because I could identify them as people that I know right now. Then it stopped for a few weeks, and when it began again, these projections would appear right at my bedside. Then once again there was a pause of a few weeks, and now the appearances are coming through an invisible door that they seem to open in the bedroom wall.
And itís not just dead guys; last week my oldest daughter appeared, and then a few nights ago a good friend came. The looks on their faces let me know that they knew exactly what was going on, which was quite a thrill. Even Howard appeared once, but he didnít seem to know that he was even there.
Now, my sense about this seeming cycling of times Ė that this happens every other night or so for several weeks and then it will begin to happen again but in a little different way Ė is that Iím still trying out various methods and means of projecting.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
MARGOT: Also, it suddenly occurred to me that I had the whole concept wrong, that even though my intent has been objectively expressed Ė my intent to be able to do this Ė it happens subjectively. Because Iíve tried to manipulate it, Iíve tried to objectively concentrate on what I wanted to do, and I donít get anything. Then pretty soon subjectively, like in the middle of the night, it pops through. I donít know if Iím saying this correctly, but do you understand what I mean?
ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. But allow yourself the recognition that you are allowing yourself the involvement of your objective awareness.
MARGOT: But that would be after they come, right?
ELIAS: Correct. You are engaging both, which is the point, for this is allowing you the experience of discovering that harmony and balance of these two forms of awareness, objective and subjective.
MARGOT: Well, I certainly got a good understanding of that. One night I was having a long talk with Sharon/Camdon about it and we tripped on this at the same time, so it was really great.
The problem that I have now Ė itís not a problem, itís just a lack of understanding Ė I tried another couple of objective projections with Vic. I have succeeded and I have felt her here, I have talked to her, but I donít get any visuals like I do when people come through the bedroom wall. I want to see her, and I donít seem to be able to make a subjective/objective agreement with her. Is there a clue you can give to me as to how to do that?
ELIAS: Recognize that the visual that you may offer to yourself shall be generated by your perception. The energy is present, but the visual or the actual manifestation of the individual shall be a projection of your perception.
MARGOT: So the problem is not Vicís. Itís mine.
ELIAS: It is not a problem; it is merely a challenge to allow yourself to relax and generate that manifestation.
MARGOT: So this would be when I have made objective contact with her and feel her here and then allowing myself to relax and generate the visual.
ELIAS: Correct, and not to generate an expectation of what you should be visualizing or creating in manifestation. What is meant by this is, what occurs with individuals generally speaking in relation to their obstacles in generating an actual manifestation of an individual that they express as dead is that the individual shall express an expectation of themselves that they shall generate this manifestation in the manner in which it appeared prior to the death. But you may allow yourself to project the image and create the manifestation in whatever manner you choose. Therefore, you may generate a manifestation of Lawrence and it may appear to you in the manner in which it was expressed, in your terms, five years previous.
MARGOT: This brings up something that I was going to ask you about anyway later on in the session, but I shall now. Thereís a focus that you told me and Vic about in which Iím her sister, and she has these ornery kids and they are her mother and Peter. That would make me the auntie of these kids. Can you give me a timeframe and a location for this?
ELIAS: And what is your impression?
MARGOT: My impression is that itís several years ago in this time framework, and I get that impression only because I tried to bring through our names and they were names from my motherís generation which were very common. I got my name as Gladys, and Vicís name was Dora. Now, I donít know that those names are correct, but the timeframe would have been early 20th century.
MARGOT: Oh, cool! (Elias laughs) And what was the geographical location of this lifetime?
ELIAS: Offer your impression.
MARGOT: I think it was in the USA...
MARGOT: ...and I kind of feel mid-west?
ELIAS: No. Ha ha ha! What have we begun this conversation with?
MARGOT: This conversation about Vic and I?
ELIAS: Our conversation in general this morning.
MARGOT: Our conversation in general this morning was about the energy at the group sessions...
ELIAS: Correct. What physical location were you referring to?
MARGOT: This is the physical location in which Vic is Dora and Iím Gladys.
ELIAS: I am aware. This is not my question. What physical location were you referring to earlier?
MARGOT: I donít know, Elias.
MARGOT: Connecticut! Oh my, yes! That makes all kinds of sense. Thank you so much! (Elias laughs) No wonder I felt so at home there. Very interesting.
Now we move to creatures, because our Little Bear and Sushi, the 19-year-old and the 14-year-old cats, died suddenly within four months of each other beginning in May. It was extremely painful for both Howard and I. On the day that we were going to have Little Bear put to sleep Ė which was the first death, and this was in May Ė I was having a lot of trouble that day trying to wait on customers because I couldnít quit crying. I asked you for some energy and immediately remembered a dream I had about a month earlier in which Howard and I had acquired a beagle puppy that we were so pleased with.
So after the fact, Iím thinking that that dream was a message to me from Little Bear that she was going to be disengaging. I also thought it might mean that she was planning to re-manifest as a beagle puppy, but I donít know that she did that. What did she manifest as?
ELIAS: You are correct.
MARGOT: Then after Little Bear died, Iíd begun to work on creating a companion cat for Sushi, and what I saw in my mind was an orange tabby kitten. But then Sushi died, and I was so filled with pain that I swore Iíd never have a pet again. But within an hour of burying her, a neighbor that we had never seen before came to our door asking if the orange tabby kitten in his arms was ours. He found him in his yard. I couldnít wait to get that cat in my arms!
So I did create an orange tabby. But I also kind of felt that Sushi had something to do with the timing of this, kind of like a gift to us. (Elias nods in agreement) I feel that perhaps Sushi re-manifested in this orange tabby male kitten. Is this true?
ELIAS: No, but you are correct that the energy expressed in the other creature was an offering to you in helpfulness, to draw this creature to you as an offering of comfort.
MARGOT: Just before Sushi died, mostly to keep myself kind of distracted, I talked to her quite a little bit just before we had her put to sleep, and I thought she was telling me that she was going to re-manifest as an otter. Is this true?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
MARGOT: I felt that so strongly, and I could see her as a playful otter, and itís just delightful. Anyway, we adore the kitten, and he seems to love us as much as we do him. Have we known him before? We call him Cecil.
ELIAS: I may express to you, this is what you may term to be a new energy.
MARGOT: Heís got lots of energy, Elias! (Elias laughs) He is like having five male kittens!
Now, as incredible as it may seem to you, the Scotland/British Isles chapter focus group has remained in confusion about this chapter. I know that Ashrah talked to you about this recently. She and I have talked since then. After I read what she told me she found out, even though I have never felt confused about this whole thing, Iím confused now, so Iíd like to ask you a few things that Iím no longer clear on.
In the first place, I didnít know there even was a British Isles chapter and a Scotland chapter. In what geographical area does the British Isles chapter take place and in what timeframe?
ELIAS: Near the sea.
MARGOT: And the timeframe?
ELIAS: Time framework, 1100s.
MARGOT: You wouldnít care to say which sea that would be?
ELIAS: In the eastern coastal area of Britain.
MARGOT: You have confirmed my Scotland chapter focus in which I own sheep and you are a trader in cattle and sheep, as being the Scotland chapter focus.
MARGOT: Did I know you as a sorcerer, or only as a trader in cattle and sheep?
ELIAS: Merely as the trader.
MARGOT: Thatís what I thought. This is roughly in the 1300s, right?
MARGOT: In what geographical area in Scotland do you live as the sorcerer? My sense is in the outskirts of Edinburgh.
ELIAS: No. Northern.
MARGOT: North of Edinburgh?
ELIAS: Northern Scotland.
MARGOT: It has also been my impression that this Scotland chapter focus includes individuals having focuses in other countries at the same time. Is this true?
MARGOT: In one of them, I believe that Vic and Bobbi and I share a gypsy focus in Turkey, I think, that would be included as part of the Scotland chapter.
MARGOT: Cool, because we did a projection, the three of us one time, and we were definitely gypsies! (Elias laughs)
Is there a book of chapters that we havenít discovered yet that we could call maybe something like the Book of the Muse, having to do with our participation in all kinds of theatrical productions, plays, movies, musicals, etcetera, in which we take all the roles of actors, writers, producers?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, although there are other books, so to speak, that do incorporate many of these types of roles, but not necessarily as a theme.
MARGOT: The next one will probably turn out to be the same answer. Is there a book of chapters perhaps called the Book of Explorers and Discoverers, in which the chapters have to do with our participation in all kinds of discovery, such as the discoveries of continents and civilizations?
ELIAS: You are correct. This is not necessarily the theme of another book, but it is what is strongly expressed in many of the chapters, yes.
MARGOT: Is that because we are part of the forum and this is one of the things that we do?
ELIAS: It extends beyond the individuals that participate in this forum and not necessarily incorporating the expression of explorers as the theme.
MARGOT: What would the theme of such a book be? (Pause)
ELIAS: Within your physical dimension, there is what may be termed as a book incorporating many chapters holding the theme of adventure.
MARGOT: Adventure! Very good! So would my focus of Sacagawea with Lewis and Clark be a chapter in the book of adventure?
MARGOT: Cool! Marge/Grady and I have been told that we share a future focus in which I am her mother or the other way around, I canít recall. Can you give us a timeframe for that?
ELIAS: Late 24th century.
MARGOT: Is she the mother or am I?
ELIAS: I shall express to you, investigate!
MARGOT: We can do that! (Elias laughs) How many future focuses do I have?
ELIAS: What is your impression?
MARGOT: Not many. I would say less than 20.
ELIAS: I may express to you that your GUESS is close. Ha ha! Twenty-three.
MARGOT: Perhaps I feel so old right now that itís hard for me to believe that. How many approximate linear years into the future would be the last of those? (Pause)
ELIAS: Twenty-sixth century.
MARGOT: I get to be older than I thought! (Elias laughs)
My method of getting information from my other focuses after Iíve discovered them is simply to ask them, and so far this has worked very, very well. But Iíve had two interesting experiences doing this that Iíd like to ask you about.
One of them concerns the focus of mine who has my essence name of Giselle, and sheís the French Revolution focus. When I first contacted her, she seemed to be very hesitant to talk to me. She also seemed to be very sad, and I had to contact her twice in order to get what I got. What I got was that she is about 30 or 35 years old in 1789 when the Revolution began. Is this true?
MARGOT: She is in love with a man very active in the resistance, who is a widower and has one child.
MARGOT: Myranda and I think that that man is her and that his name is Pierre.
MARGOT: But that is a focus of Myranda?
MARGOT: Cool! Myranda also confirmed with you that I am Sophie, the mother of the emperor Franz-Josef. In trying to contact Sophie, I had another interesting experience, because a female focus stepped up, so to speak, and when I asked if she was Sophie, she said, ďI donít know.Ē I was so stunned at this kind of an answer that I havenít tried again. Do I have more than one focus by that name?
MARGOT: So maybe she was confused. (Elias laughs) Maybe I need to identify who Iím trying to talk to a little better than I did.
Now hereís a single question: is mad King Ludwig a focus of Howardís?
ELIAS: No, observing essence.
MARGOT: Iíve been so sure that was Howard, and he doesnít want to be that character at all! (Elias laughs)
My niece Cindy, whose essence name is Diana, feels that her daughter Lindsey is a focus of Dianaís disengaged mother, Barbara. Is this true?
MARGOT: Well, we kind of thought so. Iíve always felt that Cindy/Diana is Ilda, aligned Zuli, and that her husband Kyle is Ilda and perhaps aligned Sumari. Am I correct in this?
MARGOT: Thought I was. Timo tells me that you have confirmed that I am his wife Fatima in a focus in Persia or Iran/Iraq. Can you give me a timeframe for this?
ELIAS: Shall you not investigate?
MARGOT: Well, heís quite confused about it. I know that it was a long time ago, because Persia hasnít been called that for a long time. I wondered if itís during the time of Darius, the king.
ELIAS: I shall suggest to you that you TOGETHER investigate.
MARGOT: So it isnít that early?
MARGOT: Is my name pronounced FAT-i-ma or Fa-TEE-ma in that focus?
MARGOT: Iíll get in touch with him. (Elias laughs) He also feels that I am Mohammedís daughter Fatima, and that she would be the one whose descendants were the ones called Fatimas. Is any of that true?
ELIAS: This is a partial observing essence experience.
MARGOT: Very good. Were the Fatimas some sort of Islamic cult or religious order? I canít understand who they were.
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
MARGOT: Now, in two instances in July, when I heard the name Molly suddenly every hair on me became alert and I was a bit emotional. Have I ever been a Molly?
ELIAS: No, but Michael is.
MARGOT: Then we go to Millie. Did I have a focus by the name of Millie G. in this present dimensional reality who is now disengaged and who was the friend of Carole J. in Connecticut? Carole feels certain that Iím Millie.
ELIAS: Once again, observing essence, and this is the recognition of the energy.
MARGOT: I woke from a dream recently saying the name Maupassant. Am I connected to the French writer Guy de Maupassant?
ELIAS: A friend.
MARGOT: Thank you very much for that.
Moving right along Ė Pierre Bonnard. Ruther and I both feel that I am connected to her focus of Bonnard. Would this be true?
ELIAS: A friend.
MARGOT: Iím not his wife, Marthe?
MARGOT: Then we come to Jean Baptiste, who was my son in my focus of Sacagawea. Is my son Dan this focus of Jean Baptiste?
MARGOT: I was so sure of that.
Iíve talked to you before about the twin boys that Camdon and I believe that we are in Italy. I brought through two names for these boys. One of them is Diego and the other is Gustav. Would those names be the correct names? (Pause)
ELIAS: Diego is correct.
MARGOT: Would you care to tell me the other boyís name?
ELIAS: Guervo, G-U-E-R-V-O.
MARGOT: Well, I had the G right. (Elias laughs) Do we live in northern Italy, and did we have blue eyes and blond hair?
MARGOT: Can you give us a timeframe for this?
MARGOT: Oh, Elias, Iíve learned so much about it on my own!
ELIAS: Ha ha! And this is the POINT, Giselle! (Both laugh)
MARGOT: Oscar Wilde Ė I believe that you told Ruther once that she, Jale, and I are actresses who knew Oscar casually in that focus. This is true, isnít it?
MARGOT: Is this the only focus that I have with Oscar? (Pause)
ELIAS: As a directing essence, yes.
MARGOT: Ruther, Jale and I also hold the sense that we have been the inspiration for or the singers in William Gilbertís lyrics to ďThree Little Maids from SchoolĒ in the Mikado opera. Would this be correct?
MARGOT: They will be so pleased! We just felt so strong about that.
Am I Sarah Purserís sister Rachel?
ELIAS: Observing essence.
MARGOT: In Howardís focus as Sarah, do I hold a shared focus with him at that time? Did I know him at that time?
MARGOT: Of course, I have to investigate and see why Ė youíre not going to tell me! (Elias laughs)
I had a curious sort of a dream recently in which it was very clear to me that I was seeing a focus 122 years ago, which would have been 1880, and I was in a country that was mostly in poverty. I feel very strongly that it was a focus dream. If you could give me any details about the country that I was in.... At the time of the dream I woke feeling very strongly that the poverty being experienced then was a very true reflection of the poverty in the world today and that was kind of the message of the dream.
MARGOT: Can you tell me the country I was in?
MARGOT: Wow, weíre in worse shape than I thought, then!
I think we have a little more time. You told me once that my initiating focus was during the 18th century. I have so far found four focuses during that timeframe and they all feel like very significant focuses to me. Would the initiating focus be the one in Africa, where Iím a female whose name is Soni or Soli?
MARGOT: Which name am I, Soni or Soli?
ELIAS: First impression.
MARGOT: Was that a shared focus with Vic and with Carole?
MARGOT: We thought so last time we talked about this.
Iíve learned a lot here, Elias, and Iím just about done. About 12 years ago, I felt I was in contact with a dolphin that I called Aimee because I couldnít pronounce her name. At that time I never quite understood what was going on but she seemed to have been worried about being put into captivity in which she felt her vibration, so to speak, would be very much affected. I lost contact with her after a while, and I thought maybe she had been captured. Was this a focus of mine?
MARGOT: Do I have a focus as a dolphin?
MARGOT: Can you give me an idea of why I felt so strongly about that? Did I talk to her?
ELIAS: Yes, and this energy is quite familiar to you, for you engage this essence in partnership now.
MARGOT: That was Howard?
MARGOT: Oh, my God! Whoa! Thatís headline news, Elias! (Elias laughs)
Weíve already discussed a little bit of this. You told me that my Little Bear cat was the horse that spoke to me, and I mentioned that I felt this was when I was a stable boy to King Darius and that he was the king I carried the information from the horse to, and that he made many changes in the way animals were treated during that time. Now, was this also during the timeframe in which I was an observing essence to Queen Esther? (Pause)
MARGOT: I kind of thought I had a tie-in there.
In my session, #191, way back when, you told me that E-L is a subdivision of I think probably the Ilda family, because I talked to you about the fact Iíve been told that I was one of the Els. Would the name of that family then be Elda?
ELIAS: This is one, yes.
MARGOT: So I was aligned Elda?
MARGOT: In the King Arthur/Camelot saga, myth, whatever it is, is this all in another dimensional reality?
MARGOT: I thought it was, and itís the only thing that makes the answer worthwhile. When that experience Ė how do I want to phrase this? Ė was that myth brought through from that other dimension a very long time ago?
MARGOT: Was it brought through by a focus of Arthur in this dimension?
MARGOT: Iíve felt all along that there was just no such place that weíve got. I spent a lot of time with that.
In the Rembee focus, who was me, and my dad, the focus in which his name was Tumat, my sense is that we were early Egyptians and that we were creating or refining the art of mummification. Would that be so?
ELIAS: Refining, yes.
MARGOT: Because Iím trying to pin down a timeframe, and I find that the funerary arts and mummification went on for thousands of years and Iím trying to find a timeframe in there.
In the matter of your confirming that I am the Egyptian queen of either Sety I or Sety II, you have confirmed that I am an Egyptian queen in the 12th century B.C. Was it Sety I or Sety II?
MARGOT: That helps so much, Elias! I worked so hard on that!
You know what? I got all the way to the end of my questions, which I never thought I would do! (Elias laughs) And I want to congratulate you on your voice and Mary on her voice! I think youíre both doing terrifically! (Elias laughs) We of course are so happy to have her back, not that she was very far away, but itís just so nice to hear her little teeny voice again. She reflected to me this morning that it had been mentioned to her that the creation was kind of a collective thing...
MARGOT: ...and that all of us had a bit to do with it. I have seen so many effects of that and had felt that, even as much as she went through, it was certainly a worthwhile thing because weíve all grown a lot.
ELIAS: You are quite correct, and you have all shifted.
MARGOT: Yes, I believe so. I feel that so strongly. So thank you once again, Elias. Iíll be talking to you again soon, and sooner Iíll be seeing you in Fresno.
ELIAS: Very well, my friend! You may offer my greetings to Bosht.
MARGOT: Heís gone to work but I will let him know.
ELIAS: Very well, and I shall be anticipating our interaction and our next meeting.
MARGOT: So shall I. I love you very much!
ELIAS: I offer to you, my dear friend, tremendous fondness and great affection.
MARGOT: Thank you.
ELIAS: To you this morning, au revoir.
MARGOT: Iíll be talking to you again, Elias.
Elias departs at 12:53 PM.
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