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Friday, May 16, 2003

<  Session 1344 (Private/Phone)  >

“Games, Adventures and Explorations”

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Mark (Baruch).

Elias arrives at 8:25 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

MARK: Elias, good morning, my dear friend! And how are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

MARK: Absolutely excellent, thank you very much!

ELIAS: Very well!

MARK: Elias, I am just wanting to do something slightly different to how I have done things in the past. I am really, really wanting to validate the impressions and the visions that I have sort of been getting since our last conversation.

ELIAS: Very well.

MARK: I will start off with some stuff about Dawn. A few weeks ago, Dawn and I were in the kitchen and Dawn heard a female voice and it was very loud. We would like to know, was this an essence?

ELIAS: Yes. And your impression?

MARK: Dawn’s impression is that she believes it to be Lawrence.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent, Dawn! What Dawn actually heard and I sort of heard too sounded like “remember me.”

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent! Relating to that, Dawn has this impression of being Annie Besant.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Whoa! Is that the connection with “remember me”?


MARK: Wow, that’s excellent!

Gillian/Ari mentioned the name Awaree a couple of months ago, and she thought that it was her Dream Walker. Without knowing this information, I actually came up with something different. I thought that it was connected to Dawn and that it was her name in the 11:11 dimension. Can you confirm either of those?

ELIAS: Both.

MARK: Does that mean that Awaree is Dawn’s Dream Walker as well as Gillian’s?

ELIAS: No. This is a focus name.

MARK: In the 11:11 dimension?


MARK: Of Dawn?


MARK: Excellent! Thank you.

Sometime ago Dawn had a dream where an old man and a few other people came to her house to help her shift her perception. In this dream, she went into a trance and when she looked at the wall it was like looking at a “magic eye” picture, with pictures on the wall. The only thing that she can remember now on the wall was a lion. She has tried to work out what this represents but has no idea. What does the lion represent?

ELIAS: And there is no offering of impression?

MARK: Not from Dawn but from me. As my focus as Set-Tu, I know that I am teaching Dawn, who is then Ariana, and I have seen her wearing this sort of dress type of robe that is lifted up at the front and there seems to be this gold medallion on it. The gold medallion has two figures on it, the profile of a lion’s head and the profile of a man’s head. So I am wondering if it is somehow related to that time period, that focus where I am Set-Tu and Dawn is Ariana.

ELIAS: Yes. Also, this symbol of the lion is significant, for this symbol is a representation of strength and steadfastness. Therefore, the imagery is presenting a message concerning expressing and acknowledging these two qualities.

MARK: That’s definitely something for Dawn to work on, and I shall partake of that as well. (Both laugh)

Some confirmation on some focuses – when we talked last, Dawn was confirmed as Helen of Troy. I was quite shocked that I was a handmaiden and was quite amazed at this because of some of the things that I saw and that I couldn’t believe. But anyhow, I believe my name now to be Elektra.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Am I then the daughter of Agamemnon?

ELIAS: No. This is another individual.

MARK: Okay, but it is Elektra?


MARK: Well, that’s good; at least I got that. Dawn had the impression as well of Conner within the group being King Priam.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent. Ling-Tu was connected to her there in some way. Dawn believes that she was probably a handmaiden, too.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Can you possibly help us out with a name?

ELIAS: Ha ha! I shall be encouraging you to continue in your investigation!

MARK: I must stop asking you, because I get that every time!

ELIAS: (Laughs) This offers you the opportunity to practice with your impressions and trusting yourself.

MARK: Absolutely right, I totally agree. Some others here... Now, this I believe involves you. We spoke some time back of a focus in Vienna. I believe that my name at that time is Francesca, Dawn is Isabella and your name is Johann.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent. I have done quite a bit of focusing, but I find that my focusing is strange. I actually see things as visions, as pictures that are very, very fast. I find it very, very difficult to sort of stop the picture and be able to analyze it. I find that it is sort of jumping all over the place. I am just wondering if you can sort of like give me some advice as to what to do to hold these long enough for me to get more detailed information.

ELIAS: Very well. In actuality, this is a common expression that individuals within your reality experience in association with viewing other focuses. As I have discussed with other individuals, the reason this occurs is that as you begin to offer yourself visualizations of other focuses and as they become clear visuals, you generate excitement. You become excited at viewing these images. Therefore, you also increase your energy, and this increases the speed of the viewing of the images.

Now; as you begin to visualize and you notice that the images are moving quickly, if you intentionally allow yourself to relax your energy in association with any particular visual, you also shall allow that visual to slow its movement. Therefore, you may offer yourself more information without creating such confusion in attempting to view all of these images as quickly as they appear.

Now; also recognize that there is another factor, and that is you may present information to yourself quite quickly and you may also process that information and assimilate it very fast; but your thought process does not move as fast as information that you may intake and assimilate. This is what becomes confusing, that thought is a much slower mechanism. It processes in a different manner, for it is processing information into some type of language. That language is not always words. In processing and translating into any type of language, this is a slower mechanism than what you may process in information just through your communications.

But I am understanding what you are expressing in a frustration in viewing the images so quickly. You do incorporate the ability to slow these images if you are paying attention to your energy and allowing yourself to calm yourself and to relax your energy. Acknowledge your excitement but do not express the energy of that excitement, for that increases the speed of the energy that you are projecting. Are you understanding?

MARK: Yes, absolutely. I know that is what I am doing. It’s funny, because I say to Dawn “relax, relax!” and here I am, sort of like... I see the images, I see them very, very clearly, and I know that I believe myself to be relaxed a lot of the time. I think what it is is when these images are going fast, I am just not acknowledging that fact.


MARK: Thank you, that’s extremely helpful. Some of the focusing that I have done recently, I am looking at a few things. We have been looking at TV programs and films, and you pick things up and these images start to flow. I see myself as Julius Caesar. I would like you to confirm this for me, please.

ELIAS: Observing essence throughout the entirety of the focus.

MARK: Then we go to another Caesar, because it seemed to play on a theme here. The other Caesar that I get a lot of information on is Cesare Borgia.


MARK: Within that focus, I was actually focusing more for Dawn at that time because Dawn was saying that she was focusing on Lucrezia. I believe that to be true as well, and that’s when I came up with myself as being Cesare Borgia.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Correct, excellent! The other focus that I came on was a name that came through of Ambrosius, who I believe to have been a king but related to magic in some way.

ELIAS: Not a king, but the name is correct and the association with wizardry is correct.

MARK: I actually got the wizardry stuff more than the king. It was just that when Dawn did some searching, it came up with a king. I couldn’t relate to that, so that’s excellent. Thank you.

Dawn, when you spoke to her last, you told her that she had a saint focus. She has been focusing on this and she has come up with the Venerable Bede.


MARK: Aha! Excellent! Now, going back to sorcery, I also believe that I am a sorcerer in Cornwall, England in around about 1300 AD. I believe my name to be Broadum.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent! Does Dawn have a focus as a knight called John Symonds who has an affair with Madeleine la Mare?


MARK: Dawn as John Symonds, does he get Madeleine pregnant?


MARK: Now I know what you’re going to say, but I have been asked to say it in any case. What is the child called?

ELIAS: The small one, in your terms, did not survive.

MARK: Elias, last time I spoke to you I said that I had done some focusing with my daughter, and at that same time I actually came up with a focus of myself as being King James V of Scotland, which came through very strongly when I was focusing on my daughter.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Correct! Phew! (Elias laughs) Oh dear! This is why I didn’t want to ask last time. We have a daughter who is Mary. Is that Dawn?


MARK: All right, that’s excellent, fantastic. I have been doing some reading and looking at some stuff, trying to trace... In the groups, they were talking about how your name, you carry your name through. My name as being Baruch, I was looking and finding it quite difficult to find people who are actually called Baruch. But I found somebody, and I was most interested and fascinated at the stuff he was doing. This is Baruch Spinoza. Is that me?


MARK: Awesome, great! I’ve got an interest in lenses, and I have a few books on that. When I was reading some more about it, I noticed that Galileo was also interested in lenses for his telescopes, etcetera. I have a great pull towards him, and I am wondering whether that is also me.

ELIAS: Observing essence.

MARK: That actually felt very strong, that, so it must have been a long observation.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: For me again, I also have a strong pull towards Vivaldi, and I wonder if this is a focus of mine.

ELIAS: Actually, this is an observing essence role with your partner.

MARK: What does that mean?

ELIAS: Your partner is the observing essence of that individual throughout the entirety of the focus.

MARK: So I was picking up on Dawn?


MARK: Gee, that’s funny! The first classical music that I ever bought was Vivaldi, which is why I thought... Interesting.

I was doing some focusing for Dawn, and this was during the French Revolution. I get the name for Dawn as Armand la Frey, and he rescues aristocratic children and takes them to England. Is this correct?


MARK: Does Armand la Frey interact with you?

ELIAS: At times.

MARK: And Myranda?


MARK: I had a sort of, kind of shocking focusing when I was doing the French Revolution again for Dawn. I saw Dawn as a French lady who was actually making some special pies, shall we say. Is this correct? You probably know what pies I am talking about! (Both laugh)


MARK: She is most upset now! (Laughs) I like it! I like it!

Okay, let’s carry on. In the 1800s, I believe that there are three brothers and we are fishermen in Portugal. My name is Jack, Dawn’s is Antonio, and I believe you are a brother a well and your name is Sebastian.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

MARK: That’s excellent. Again in the 1800s, I believe that I am also with Dawn where her name is Annabella and my name is Giorgio. I think that our surname is something like Massimo. We are married with five children, we live in Tuscany and we own a small vineyard.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: I also believe one of our children to be a friend of ours who lives in the U.K. called Noelle. Is this correct as well?


MARK: Hah! In the 1920s again I seem to have two, also I believe associated with Dawn, where our names are Oscar and Victoria Swanson. Oscar works for a bank, Coutts Bank in London, and we live in Earls Court.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent! I just want to confirm one of Dawn’s impressions of being D.H. Lawrence.

ELIAS: Observing essence.

MARK: Now, if I go back to the 1920’s, I have another one that is based in America in New York. My name is David and Dawn’s is Jeannie. Our surname is Arland and we work for an import/export company.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Another one for Dawn – George Marston, the painter on the Endeavor?

ELIAS: No, this is not a focus, but there is a focus associated with that individual as a friend and admirer.

MARK: In the 1960s, I am getting information about a focus of myself where I am about 38, I live in England, my name is Katrina and I believe I am a fortune-teller.

ELIAS: Correct. (Laughs) And I may express to you, not a very accurate fortune-teller! Ha ha ha!

MARK: Oh thank you! Did you really have to tell me that?! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Merely adding a bit of color to your...

MARK: So I was a bit of a con artist, was I? I did it for fun, that’s what it was.


MARK: I was reading some emails this morning and I had a sort of strong impression that I have a life with Jeanne/Lucille. She is my wife and she gives birth to a child who is in actual fact Dawn. I am not sure if we live in Australia in the 1930s. I think my name is David Randal.

ELIAS: Correct, although adjust your time framework to 1910.

MARK: And is it Australia?


MARK: That would be good to continue that, to check that out.

Some future focuses, Elias – this is about 2442, and Dawn’s name is Juliana and mine is Briach.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: There is some interaction here with another dimension that I got from one of the parties that we have been having, where I have a focus which I am calling Batman. I am actually fairly humanoid in appearance and the same size of a human, but I have wings like a bat and my face is very bat-like as well.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: What is that dimension called?

ELIAS: I may express to you as I have to other individuals, these dimensions do not actually incorporate a name.

Now; if you wish to attach a name to them that you invent, this is quite acceptable. In similar manner to your own physical dimension which does not incorporate a name either, actually none of these physical dimensions incorporate a name. Your planet may incorporate a name, but your dimension does not. Ha ha ha!

MARK: I mean, I suppose it is for simplicity, isn’t it, sort of like when you’re discussing something. I suppose we actually want to try and attach a name to make it seem simpler to us.

ELIAS: Which you may, if you are so choosing.

MARK: Exactly. I found that the Batman focus was quite interesting because he seems to have the ability to sort of move between the dimensions quite easily.


MARK: It seemed very, very simple actually, which of course it is, isn’t it? (Both laugh)

Some more future ones, this is about 2020. Dawn – I believe her name is Angelique Magnusson – she is born in Iceland and moves to New York where she meets me. My name is Brad and we work in a gym.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: On the gym side of things, just a quick thing about my son. My son would like to know if he has a focus that is a well-known body builder.


MARK: He has become quite obsessed with this activity of lifting weights.

Another future focus that I picked up from one of our parties as well, I believe this to be round about 3010 and my name is Commander Ucktar. I have this huge mothership that is pyramid in shape. Could you confirm this for me, please?

ELIAS: I shall confirm the focus and clarify your vision of the pyramid. This is the shape of the quarters within this ship but not the shape of the ship.

MARK: And 3010 is correct?

ELIAS: Fifty-ten.

MARK: Thank you. Dawn would just like to know if she is an observing essence of Marie Currie.


MARK: Recently we have been doing a lot on the Mayan focuses, and I actually believe I have about nine focuses within this timeframe. I believe Dawn has four, two male and two female.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: I see Dawn as a priest, and the name that I get is Xian-awa-ee.


MARK: I am trying to get what that name means, and I get something to do with a snake.

ELIAS: A sacred serpent.

MARK: And I actually get another focus of mine which is very related to a serpent. This is one of the nine, and what I was going to say is that one of them is not really Mayan as a true native. I believe the name to be Quetzalcoatl.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: This is really interesting, because this was something that was when I was doing it, I felt like I wasn’t really one of them and this is why they revered me. Was I sort of more like... I know what the history books say of Quetzalcoatl, but I just don’t really sort of get that feeling of what the history books say. Am I correct?


MARK: Can you give me more... I am asking the question I shouldn’t be asking! (Elias laughs) I am doing it again, but can you give me a little bit more so that I can try and focus on this in more depth? This is one of the ones where it moves very fast. It seems like there might be the same person with the same name, right, but at different timeframes it seems to be sort of disjointed. I don’t know if it is some sort of projection or something, but there is something that just doesn’t seem I want to say normal – but it’s not normal, fluid. Do you know what I mean?

ELIAS: Yes, which I may express to you is significant in paying attention to what you are presenting to yourself. For what you are allowing yourself to tap into is the same individual but not, for you are tapping into the individual and also a probable self of that individual.

Therefore, you are tapping into both, and this is what you are noticing in the lack of fluidness in association with the individual, for you move back and forth between the probable self and the focus. The probable self is also quite real but also has been generated in association with a turn in direction of the individual, and the probable self is generating different experiences and different choices.

MARK: So it’s kind of like a parallel life?

ELIAS: Almost, not quite, for the two are similar but are generating two different realities and different choices. Therefore, their experiences are different.

MARK: So that would probably explain some of the history books that come up with something that is slightly different as well.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Oh, that is very interesting. So where did I actually come from, then?

ELIAS: In association with birth?

MARK: In association with birth and also in association with place of birth, location.

ELIAS: (Scolding) Ah, this you may be investigating and recognizing yourself! You do not need to incorporate my expression in that. You are quite adept at this type of visualization. I am disappointed! Ha ha ha!

MARK: Oh, I feel like a schoolchild getting reprimanded for not doing something that I know I am quite capable of doing! (Both laugh) But you know, Elias, every now and then you become a bit sort of like “is this for real?”

ELIAS: Or lazy! (Laughs)

MARK: Oh, yes. I know and I am quite amazed. I read some of the stuff on the news groups and everything from all the people that we interact with, and a lot of people, like Dawn, they will sort of get a feeling. Dawn keeps saying that she can’t get any visualizations at all. With me, it is more like actually seeing it happen and getting some feeling as well.

ELIAS: Correct. This is merely a difference within the manner in which you each process information. Not every individual offers themselves visualizations of other focuses or other dimensions. Some individuals present information to themselves through impressions which may be translated in feelings or in sensing, and in allowing oneself to move into that sensing or feeling, they offer themselves considerable information. But there are some individuals that do allow themselves to actually visually view other focuses. Some individuals project themselves actually into the other focus and allow themselves temporarily to be the other focus.

MARK: I feel that I do that as well, because I think that when I say I see things, at times I am actually experiencing it like I am actually there.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Instead of like a movie, it’s sort of like I am really there.

ELIAS: This is an action of stepping sideways and allowing yourself to move your attention and be the other focus, for it is you. Most individuals do not incorporate that action, for it is an action that generally speaking can confuse the individual’s identity. But some individuals do allow themselves to incorporate this action of stepping sideways and moving into the attention of the other focus temporarily.

MARK: I enjoy doing that. It is different, but then you sort of get the doubt, like is this really for real? Can this be really this easy? Because there are many times when it sort of just happens and it will happen in a flowing way, and you just think it can’t be this easy!

ELIAS: Let me express to you as I have previously, I am quite understanding what you are expressing. This is the reason that validation is beneficial. For as I have stated previously, you may actually create a physical manifestation from what you term to be nothing before your very eyes and not believe that you created it. (Laughs)

MARK: Yes, it is extremely interesting. That is what I said to you earlier, that what I want with a lot of these things is just validation, because I am still having difficulty with understanding what I am observing and what is actually a focus of mine.


MARK: Some of those ones that you said were observing, I am quite taken aback that it was observing and it wasn’t real.

ELIAS: Oh, it is quite real!

MARK: But I am not directing, though.

ELIAS: It matters not. You are participating in a manner in which you are experiencing all of the experiences of the individual. Therefore, it is also understandable that many individuals confuse the action of observing essence with that of directing the focus, for you view that to be less than the essence that is directing and in actuality it is not. It is a role of participation which is equal to that of the directing essence; it merely is a different action.

MARK: Right, that’s good, that’s really good. Just some more on the Mayan focusing I have been doing of late, I see myself and my name is Shield Jaguar and my son is Bird Jaguar, who is actually Dawn. Can you confirm this for me, please?


MARK: That was a most interesting focus that, most interesting. When we talk about the Mayan focus as Dawn as the priest, does she belong to the same tribe as Myranda’s twins?


MARK: What exactly is the relationship there?

ELIAS: This focus of the priest is what you may term to be well known and interactive with the mother of the twins.

MARK: Is the mother on the list, in the forum?


MARK: In the family?


MARK: I shan’t ask you who it is because I know what you will say! (Elias laughs)

All right, let’s carry on. I just want to confirm something; I think that you did already confirm this. I spoke earlier on about Awaree being a Dream Walker. Is that Dawn’s Dream Walker?


MARK: It’s just a focus name?


MARK: So it is not a Dream Walker for Ari, either?

ELIAS: Yes, it is.

MARK: Thank you. I watched a DVD focused on St. Helena, and I actually believe myself to be the well-known prisoner of that island, who is Napoleon. Is this my focus?


MARK: Oh, fantastic. Right, that is amazing...

Dawn woke up a few days ago and came up with a name. She was trying to work out why she came up with this name, Marcus Aurelius, and doesn’t know why she is getting this name. Is it a focus of hers, a focus of mine, or a focus of somebody on the groups that she is actually picking up?

ELIAS: No, this is not a focus of herself, but she does incorporate interaction with that individual. Therefore, this she has provided to herself as a clue, not as an actual focus.

MARK: Does Dawn actually know who this focus is? She thinks that it might be my father.

ELIAS: Observing essence.

MARK: Just to finish up on a few other things here, on the 11:11 party that we did, I saw quite a lot of reptilian-type focuses, which I believe to be true. I was quite fascinated by their appearance and everything. I saw myself with a very lizard-type skin. I saw people with sort of crocodile-type faces and myself with a lizard-type face with a crown around my neck made out of skin. These focuses are real, aren’t they?


MARK: Dawn wanted to know if she has a unicorn focus, because in this party I came across a unicorn, which I believe to be Dawn.


MARK: Elias, can you tell me – you told Dawn last time and I forgot to ask for myself – who am I fragmented from? I believe it is about three.

ELIAS: Correct. This information is available to you.

MARK: I should have caught you at a good time when Dawn asked it then! No, you are quite right, I can get this myself. Well, thank you, Elias! (Elias laughs)

Elias, I have an Internet friend who I have been in contact with for quite a number of years, and his name is Jian. I just want to know or confirmation that I have shared numerous focuses with this individual, haven’t I?


MARK: Are you able to... No, don’t worry, I won’t ask that!

ELIAS: (Laughs) You have incorporated several focuses with this individual in different capacities of relationships and many of them in different expressions of intimacy – one also in an intense rivalry, which also was another form of intimacy.

MARK: Just to spice it up! (Elias laughs) Is Dawn a member of the Donner Party?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

MARK: Okay, because she has been on and off, on and off with it. Maybe the observing essence will help with that as well.

Can I just ask something? The Mayan focusing that we have been talking about, I believe the Mayan time to have been from about 1 AD through to I think about 800 AD, but I notice some focusing has gone back to almost 20,000 years prior to that. I am confused on that, whether the term Mayan is being misused.

ELIAS: The term has been associated with what you may view as a section of that culture in time, but it does not recognize the entirety of that culture. It centers around a certain time framework, which was not the entirety of that culture and those individuals.

MARK: Right, I understand that. So that goes for the same thing with myself as Set-Tu in the pre-Egypt time? I know it’s not Egypt, but you mentioned that I was involved with the construction or pre-construction for the plans of the pyramids. I am confused with that, because the timeframe I am looking at is about 16,000 years before Christ, which is when I believe the Great Pyramid of Giza was being built, but that seems to conflict with some things. I am confused as to which pyramids I am actually involved with. Can you help me with that?

ELIAS: I may express to you that your involvement in the plans, so to speak, of the constructions were associated with some of the initial structures, not those that were built later.

MARK: So do I take it that the locations of the pyramids are the same, and that the pyramids that are standing now are on top of those?

ELIAS: Yes, in a manner of speaking.

MARK: That is what I was confused about, because I was getting imagery of the constellations, how things were lined up, and I thought that’s what I was getting. But if those pyramids are built at a different time with the same line up, then they would have to be in the same place. They would have to have been built before with the same structure, same idea. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

MARK: I believe that Set-Tu, because of the standing that he had, I actually believe that Set-Tu was moved or named as Set or Seth, one of the later Egyptian gods, but it was actually Set-Tu.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Great, I thought that. Thank you!

I think I have about a minute or two, so I will just run through some things I have been working on, some essence names for people that I know. If you could just confirm them for me that would be great. I spoke about somebody called Sabrina last time and I get her essence name to be Kyana.

ELIAS: Kalyana (KAL ee ahna).

MARK: Somebody that I knew sometime ago called Sue, and I get Shealla (she AY luh).

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent. Dawn’s mother as Corhail (kor HAYL)?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: And her husband as Hez (HEZ)?

ELIAS: Add an ending T.

MARK: Okay. My mother as Cehail (see HAYL)?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: And my father as Ortah (OR tuh)?

ELIAS: Add ending K.

MARK: All right. My sister as Jennar (jen NAR)?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Well, that’s excellent! I believe that our time for this moment has come to an end. I extend my deepest and warm affection to you, and look forward to talking to you again in the future. I know that Dawn sends her love to you as well.

ELIAS: And I express the same to both of you. (Laughs) Continue with your games and your adventure and your explorations, and I shall continue to offer you supportive energy in playfulness. Ha ha!

MARK: And you continue with yours as well.

ELIAS: And so I shall!

MARK: Excellent!

ELIAS: Very well my friend, to you in tremendous affection as always, au revoir.

MARK: Thank you, Elias.

Elias departs at 9:30 AM.

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