Saturday, August 09, 2003
ďWhen Do You Know to Trust your Impressions?Ē
ďThe Reality of ImaginationĒ
ďSimultaneous Time, Probable SelvesĒ
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Tim (Colum).
Elias arrives at 6:20 AM. (Arrival time is 23 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
TIM: Hello, Elias. How are you?
ELIAS: Ha ha! As always! And yourself?
TIM: Iím doing fine. Iím actually very excited to get to speak to you again. Itís been a couple of years since weíve had a session, but I felt weíve been interactive along the way, certainly with the sessions and the reading material.
ELIAS: Ha ha! And my offering of energy to you.
TIM: Yes. Today I wrote some notes because I want to keep this somewhat along a line of thought; but I just wanted to get some clarification on a few things. To start with, I want to talk about, I guess, a grouping of things, just talk about interacting with other focuses or essences. Objectively, Iíve read the sessions and heard some other focuses that seem to have more interaction. I donít know if maybe I am interacting with others and not recognizing it, or if part of my intent in this focus is to keep more of a singular focus. So Iím just curious Ė if you could comment on if Iím just not recognizing what Iím actually interacting with or if Iím not really interacting on an objective level.
ELIAS: The latter is more accurate. Let me express to you a clarification. Some individuals choose to be what you may term as actively investigating other focuses.
Now; they choose to be generating that type of action for it is a type of exercise that may be generated in fun and also encourages the individual to trust their impressions, and therefore is a type of practice at trusting what you communicate with yourself.
Now; not all individuals choose to explore in this manner. Some individuals generate less interest in investigating that type of direction than others, which in actuality it matters not. Each individual shall generate their own exploration in whatever direction they incorporate a preference with. Some individuals prefer to concentrate their attention upon the interactions and experiences and directions that they are engaging in this one focus, but also allowing themselves in those experiences and in those directions to recognize, and in your terms, connect with themselves in a more expansive manner, knowing that they are actually essences and knowing that they incorporate other focuses, but not necessarily choosing to be investigating of them or interacting with them.
Now; I may express to you, in actuality there are many individuals that choose not to be investigating other focuses. It appears that there are many more individuals that are investigating of other focuses merely for the reason that those individuals generally engage objective conversation with myself more often, for they are engaging interaction with myself to validate their impressions and their investigations of other focuses, which also reinforces their trust of their own communications and their own impressions that they offer to themselves.
TIM: Thereís been a light on in my car, a seat belt light, that for random reasons dings on every so often. I often kind of think ďI wonder if thatís Elias saying hello,Ē and then I start the thought process of going come on, itís just an electronic kind of an issue that Iím creating somehow, but it doesnít necessarily mean itís Elias; itís just some random electrical short, perhaps. That starts the thought process again on how do I know objectively when to trust the impression that itís Elias saying hello or itís just an electronic glitch. I guess the question really comes down to...
ELIAS: Trusting your...
TIM: ...the interpretation of thought or thought as an interpretive tool. When do you know to trust? I guess thatís really the answer, that you just have to trust your impressions on what it is. But I was wondering if you could comment on that.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, your impression is correct.
Now; what becomes confusing is that what is very familiar to most of you is to present impressions to yourselves and to automatically dismiss them as what you term to be imagination.
Now; this is the point, to be trusting those impressions for you offer communications to yourselves continuously, and you translate those communications through thought. Therefore, as a thought occurs to you and it appears to be a type of random thought and it appears to be being generated by some imaginary idea, so to speak, you may trust that you are offering yourself an impression. Those thoughts do not express without some motivation. There is some action which is occurring within you that generates the thoughts, but you are accustomed to viewing those types of thoughts as fantasy or wishful thinking.
TIM: So in this particular instance, thatís interesting, because you use the word motivation. I think I would be motivated to have interaction with you. Itís something that would be considered fun and exciting. So in this particular case, am I just creating this light in the car so that I can basically think that I am interacting with you or is it truly an interaction?
ELIAS: It IS an interaction. It is a projection of my energy, which you receive and translate that energy into a physical manifestation which gains your attention, and you shall associate the physical manifestation each time with my energy.
TIM: That makes sense because, if anything, I have often thought that even if it wasnít you, it served the purpose of gaining my attention to kind of think of you and then start thinking of issues and of sessions and to try to understand this physical dimension and how it all kind of works together.
ELIAS: I am understanding, but do not discount that there is an actual energy expression that I am projecting in conjunction with you, and therefore, it is quite real. It matters not what the manifestation is or whether you may attach a rational or logical explanation for it as an electrical shortage or whatever you may define as the glitch, so to speak. It is being manipulated intentionally and purposefully.
TIM: Speaking of fantasy, one of the questions I wanted to ask you today, Iíve read about daydreaming and youíve called it stepping sideways in consciousness. So Iím driving, listening to the radio, thinking of playing music, daydreaming about being a musician on stage, singing a song, and Iím trying to get a sense of is that... You mentioned earlier that fantasy is real, so Iím trying to bring together a clarity on stepping sideways, which is using imagination, which I understand is real, and how that reality, in terms of me imagining being on a stage somewhere, and the reality of me sitting here in a physical location on a physical chair that I can feel and I can see, is that imagined scenario of playing music as real as me sitting in this chair right now?
Now; recognize that imagination is also an avenue of communication. It is expressed slightly different from other avenues of communication, but it also in some manners is more flexible. All that you generate in imagination as a communication is quite real, and this is an action of stepping sideways, so to speak, allowing yourself to tap into other aspects of yourself.
Now; in paying attention, you may begin to discern whether you are stepping sideways and allowing yourself to tap into another focus or whether you are tapping into a probable self. You shall recognize the difference, for if you are generating this type of imaginary imagery and it appears to be very similar to yourself in this time framework and in this focus but is incorporating different choices and different directions, many times that is an indication that you are tapping into a probable self that you have generated at some point, and you are allowing yourself to not merely to view but also, in some manners, experience that probable self and the choices that it is generating and the experiences that it is incorporating.
Now; if you generate an imagined scenario concerning yourself but it appears to be quite different or even unusual to the point in which you recognize some familiarity of yourself but you may be engaging impressions or visualizations of a very different form, a very different type of reality, this may be an other-dimensional focus of yours. You may also engage this action and allow yourself to step sideways and be tapping into another focus within another time framework in this dimension, which may be past or future.
TIM: Speaking of that, for myself, just to clarify in the last session my essence name was Colum, and the spelling was C-O-L-U-M. Is that accurate? (1)
TIM: Can you tell me Ė Iím just trying to investigate Ė how many focuses in this physical dimension do I have?
ELIAS: Total numbering 586.
TIM: It doesnít seem, as I read folks in their impressions of their final focus, I donít feel as if Iím a final focus. Is that an accurate impression?
TIM: As I read about final focuses, you mentioned at one point, if I get this right, that at the time a final focus disengages and transitions, all 586 focuses, if they are currently active or all active focuses, would also disengage at that same point in time. Is that accurate?
ELIAS: Yes, or they may choose to be fragmenting. Therefore, it is not an absolute that all of the focuses shall disengage also from this physical dimension once the final focus in its designated position chooses to be disengaging. For each focus incorporates free will and choice, and therefore, each focus may engage the choice to fragment in that time framework, and if choosing, continue within their participation in this physical dimension by generating new focuses in association with the new essence.
TIM: If that occurred, would I be some new essence? That would mean that my essence, if I fragmented, would no longer necessarily be the essence of Colum. It would be some newly created essence.
TIM: But in subset or certainly incorporating a lot of the elements, perhaps preferences of the essence of Colum? There definitely is free will; I can do whatever.
ELIAS: Correct. It is dependent on the individual. If you choose to be fragmenting as a focus, generally speaking you shall retain most of what you have generated in that focus as to personality and talents, abilities, beliefs, orientation.
Now; at times, if a focus fragments, they may choose to change their essence family and alignment, but many times they do not. It is dependent upon the individual and what they choose to generate in that action. Generally speaking, an individual that fragments in a focus does not experience much of an alteration in the actual physical manifestation. Actually, for the most part, most individuals, if they are fragmenting within a particular focus, generally do not objectively notice.
TIM: Yes, I would imagine so. Just as an example, to try to conceptualize it, if my final focus or the final focus of the essence of Colum is, as we speak, right at this moment involved in an automobile accident and chooses to disengage in some form, and here I am sitting with you on the phone, not necessarily wanting to disengage because I have young children or at least objectively I want to be around for a variety of reasons, at that point I would never even notice. I would just continue my conversation with you and not necessarily feel any different?
Now; at times individuals do notice some alteration in their energy, but that requires genuinely intensely paying attention to different expressions of your energy and your energy field and any fluctuation that may occur. But as I have stated, the fluctuation within physical manifestation is so slight that it is generally unnoticed.
TIM: Iíll think on that.
Motivation, I want to talk about motivation a little bit from a physical dimension standpoint. There is a school of thought or a belief here that all human activity is motivated by a pleasure/pain response, where you filter through beliefs what there is, but there are no absolutes about what is pleasurable and what is painful. Folks generally, I would imagine, would be motivated to gain pleasure or to avoid pain. I donít know if thatís necessarily true after reading your sessions, and Iím wondering if pleasure and pain as we interpret them are signals to us to move toward something or move away from something in terms of our wants and desires.
ELIAS: It is dependent upon the individual and what beliefs they express. It is very strongly associated with your individual expressed beliefs. In this, as I have stated many times, you all incorporate all of the beliefs within all of the belief systems, but you express a few beliefs in association with each belief system. Therefore, the majority of the beliefs are latent, so to speak. They exist and they are incorporated by you, but you may not necessarily express them. Expressed beliefs are evidenced in what you do.
Now; as your beliefs influence every expression and every moment in the entirety of your focus, it is dependent upon what expressed beliefs you incorporate and whether that shall be valid in your experience, that you would move towards pleasure or move away from pain.
TIM: An example of that, just to try to wrap up the whole wants, desires and beliefs, many of us in this physical dimension would believe that we should exercise, that we should do it for a variety of reasons Ė weight gain, weight loss, aesthetics, health Ė but the belief is there that exercise would be a good thing to do on a continual basis. So youíd think objectively we would want those things and choose to exercise more often, versus choosing to sit in front of the television and generate that action and the results that come from generating that action. I guess really the question is more towards the wants and desires, where youíve talked about this before, that objectively we may desire something but what we are choosing is really what we want. Am I getting that?
ELIAS: The reverse. You may think that you want a particular expression or to move in a particular direction, but your desire may be different. Your desire is an underlying motivation, which many times your wants are in conjunction with your desire, but there are also time frameworks and situations in which your wants may not necessarily be in association with your desire. Your desire is what motivates your intent. In a manner of speaking, your desire drives your intent.
Now; your wants are objective expressions, which many times they are also in association with your intent, but at times they may not be, for your wants are also quite influenced by your beliefs. In this, they might not necessarily be in conjunction with your desire.
TIM: So with desire, when you say it is underlying, is desire more of a subjective component of essence or focus?
TIM: So in that particular example, in a particular moment if somebody chooses to sit on a couch and watch television versus go exercise but then feels guilty or some remorse or something afterward, is that a signal that the desire was to go exercise and they didnít comply with the desire?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. For the most part, as I have stated, desire is what drives your intent.
Now; your intent is expressed in many, many, many different directions, for it is what may be termed as a general theme of experiences within your focus, and your desire is to be following any type of exploration that is in conjunction with your general theme. You choose many, many, many different specific directions that are all associated with that general theme; therefore, you incorporate a tremendous diversity of experiences but all are associated with that general theme.
You also generate a value fulfillment which is associated with all of your experiences. As I have stated, if you are not generating value fulfillment, you shall not continue to participate in this physical dimension. But value fulfillment is not always what you term to be positive or pleasurable or even what you term to be good or comfortable, for there are many experiences that you generate that you value but you do not necessarily associate them as comfortable.
TIM: I guess included in that would be the mass events or the beliefs you had mentioned in a previous session Ė Iím not going to say it correctly Ė but where globally there is a lot of conflict and trauma regarding belief systems. I would imagine that would fall into the category of something that we value as an experience but itís not very comfortable.
Now; in this, recognize also that you may incorporate expressed beliefs, such as your example, and in any particular moment you may not necessarily be in agreement with that expressed belief, and therefore, you may choose different actions; but that may also generate some expression of conflict, for you are moving in opposition to an expressed belief that you incorporate.
As with your example, it is good to exercise, and if you are not exercising and you are incorporating the action of engaging your television, subsequently you experience a frustration with yourself or perhaps guilt or a discounting of yourself for the expressed belief is that exercise is good, and therefore you should engage that action or that activity. If you choose not to be engaging that activity, for in a moment you are not agreeing with that particular expressed belief and you incorporate a different action, what you are generating is a force of energy. The reason that you incorporate the emotional communication of discounting yourself or disappointment or frustration or guilt is that you are communicating to yourself, identifying what the belief is and what youíve actually done.
TIM: Following up on that, if somebody is thinking of exercise to try to create a specific result, weight loss for example, which many folks are trying to do or to create a more aesthetically pleasing, at least under the beliefs of what an aesthetically pleasing physique is, I kind of think we can create all of our reality and exercise seems to be something that is not necessary, that you could create that physique without exercising. But it doesnít seem that thatís what we do, in general.
Now; your assessment is correct. It is not necessary to exercise to generate a particular appearance, but it matters not. Beliefs are strong and they are quite real. In this, they influence perception quite strongly, and perception is what creates your actual physical reality.
Therefore, regardless of whether you may entertain the concept or the theory that you may generate a particular physique and not incorporate exercise, you may, but it is dependent upon whether you actually identify your expressed belief concerning exercise, whether you accept that and allow yourself intentionally to generate other choices in manipulating your energy in a different manner.
Now; what is automatically expressed is I may offer that explanation to you and you may contemplate that explanation. Subsequently what you attempt to do, which is an automatic association, is you attempt to identify the belief and you think about it.
Now; remember, thought is a translating mechanism. It does not create your reality and it does not precede your choices. It merely interprets.
Now; as you think of your belief, you may think with yourself, ďAh, I recognize this belief and I am accepting of this belief.Ē Or you may think, ďI shall not express this belief any longer; therefore, it shall not be affecting of me.Ē No. For what you are incorporating is merely translating different information that you are noticing, but you have not actually altered your energy and you have not actually accepted the belief, and in this, you attempt to eliminate the belief. Regardless that you express to yourself that you recognize that you are not eliminating beliefs, this is an automatic response. You do automatically attempt to eliminate the beliefs, which does not accomplish what you want for the belief may not be eliminated.
TIM: Can you neutralize the belief?
ELIAS: Acceptance neutralizes the belief, but to be genuinely expressing an acceptance of a belief you must be recognizing it, recognizing its influences, how that belief influences you in many different manners, in many different expressions, and generate a genuine lack of judgment, knowing that you continue to incorporate this belief as an expressed belief, but also knowing that you may choose to be moving your energy in different manners. This is not to say that the belief does not continue to be expressed, it does, but it genuinely matters not. Not that beliefs do not matter, but that in the recognition of the belief what you have discontinued is the judgment of it.
Now; in this time framework, as I have been speaking to many individuals recently, I have identified this new wave in consciousness which is occurring presently, which incorporates the potential to be extremely liberating but may also be quite challenging, for this wave addresses to the belief system of truth. Your truths are those beliefs that are the most strongly expressed.
TIM: That would be religious beliefs, political beliefs?
ELIAS: Any belief that is the most strongly expressed that you do not question and has become an absolute is what may be termed to be a truth in your physical expression. It is not a truth, but you associate with it as a truth.
Now; one such as exercise might quite commonly be expressed as a truth of many individuals, for the belief is no longer viewed as a belief Ė it merely is. If you wish to incorporate a particular appearance and physique, you must be incorporating exercise or you must be incorporating specific types of diets. For many individuals, that is such an absolute that it is unquestioned, and therefore, it is one of their truths.
TIM: But if thatís the case on a mass level, does it make it more difficult for an individual to go against that wave and eliminate the belief because itís so strongly held as a truth within the masses?
ELIAS: Listen to what you have expressed in your question. Does it make this more difficult to eliminate? Ha ha!
TIM: So recognize, accept Ė those are better words, obviously.
ELIAS: Pay attention to how you express yourself, for that also is a reflection of what you are actually doing and what direction you are actually moving within.
Now; I may respond to you and express to you, yes, mass beliefs incorporate a tremendous strength and they may be challenging to be addressing to; but in not attempting to eliminate them, they may not necessarily be any more challenging to be accepting than any other belief.
Let me express to you, recognizing your truths is important, for they become your truths for there are elements of them that you prefer. Preferences are preferred beliefs, and in this, each of your truths incorporates some expressions that you deem to be good but they also incorporate limitations. In this, as you begin to recognize your truths, you also begin to recognize that some expressions of them you may choose to continue to express, for you prefer them. Some you may recognize as limiting, and you may choose to incorporate different expressions in association with it.
TIM: Interesting. Iíll have to think on that a little bit more.
A question to try to help me... Well, Iíll just ask the question instead of discounting myself! (Elias laughs) Itís about time, and I can understand that as Iím sitting here in this physical dimension experiencing focus, trying to really get my arms around simultaneous time is going to be challenging, to say the least. Iím trying to conceptualize how it would work here. Linear time frameworks are part of the challenge. But Iím thinking if I make a choice, right now choosing to engage in exercise, just to follow this example, how that could have a ripple effect in terms of Iím making a choice...
Letís actually use a better example, a more extreme example. I make a choice right now to engage in a car accident which severely physically damages me. That ripple effect would occur into the future, as I am basically changing direction, if you will, having to live with that choice for the balance of linear time framework. Iím curious about probable selves and simultaneous time, because if that occurs at this point right now, the future would have to be rewritten, it seems, in the past. Iím really not explaining this very well, but hopefully you kind of get the gist of how simultaneous time works. Is it probable selves that are allowing multiple paths of different experiences?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. But also recognize that the future is somewhat of an illusion. It is being created now, and in actuality, there is no other expression but the ongoing now.
As to the identification of future in relation to simultaneous time, there is no future that has already been written, so to speak, and therefore there is no future to rewrite, for the future is merely an illusion which is created by objective perception in a manipulation of a configuration of time. But time is not an absolute either, and it is very flexible and may be manipulated or bended, so to speak, in many different manners, not merely in a forward and backward motion.
In this, the point of power is in the continuous now, for even the future is not actually the future, for it is always followed by the present. For you may project your attention to the future in anticipation or speculation or planning, but subsequent to your projection or after your projection of the future, you return to the present.
TIM: Although the present that occurs after the future seems like itís affected by choices made in the previous present, and thatís whatís kind of got me as Iím trying to conceptualize this. There are an infinite number choices that are made throughout a particular focus or lifetime.
ELIAS: Correct. For you configure your reality of time through your perception in a linear fashion, and therefore, you are correct, it appears that events follow each other in sequence and that the past has generated the present, and that also is the movement which creates the future. In actuality, it is the present that is creating both.
TIM: Right. And again, if I try to conceptualize that, Iím thinking of an example of a highway. As I drive on the highway and try to think of it, I think Iím driving on this piece of road right now at this present time. But because time is simultaneous, all vehicles who have ever driven on this piece of road are driving at the same time. Maybe the problem that Iím having here is Iím thinking of the road as fixed and solid and the vehicles as transitioning, but is time bent upon itself, to where a physical location on this earth is...
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. I am understanding what you are expressing and in a manner of speaking, yes, you are correct. For all time and all space arrangements occupy the same area, so to speak. Therefore, you are correct. Upon any section of road, all vehicles and all time is being expressed. But you incorporate a singularity of perception and of your reality, and therefore you create the experience of your time and only the vehicles that are present in your physical present time.
TIM: If Iím riding in a vehicle with family members or friends, those focuses who are in that vehicle with me at that time are obviously choosing the same thing?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. Generally speaking, yes, they are choosing similarly, not entirely the same but similarly. But that is a choice also. They may choose to be experiencing quite differently and generating a quite different scenario.
You may actually engage a collision with your vehicle with other individuals within the vehicle. In YOUR reality, in YOUR scenario, in this collision you may perhaps damage your physical body consciousness to an extreme and you may generate considerable damage to your vehicle. Another individual present within that vehicle may incorporate no injury and no damage to their physical body consciousness and the aspect of the vehicle that they are traveling within does not appear to be severely damaged. It is dependent upon their choice of the experience in the moment.
TIM: Wow. So then when you take that vehicle to an insurance adjuster, whose reality is correct?
ELIAS: It is not a matter of correct. It is a matter of who generates the action of engaging the insurance adjuster and what reality that individual is projecting.
TIM: Interesting, very interesting. Iíve often driven down the road, like Iím sure many others have, and you imagine a scenario where you engage in a collision. Is the imagination, then, going back to what we said earlier Ė I want to make sure I kind of understand it Ė is that imagination then creating potentially a probable self that does engage in a collision? But as far as my focus, the one that I understand and feel as me, I continue on a different path.
ELIAS: The imagination communication is not creating the scenario. it is communicating to you that the scenario has been created in that moment.
TIM: So if Iím thinking Iím just imagining an accident as Iím driving but it hasnít occurred to me, that means that in a different probability...
ELIAS: It is.
TIM: It is occurring.
ELIAS: Yes, and you are choosing not to insert that into your reality in that present moment.
TIM: Wow. So that probability of the accident occurring in that probability, does that then continue with, Iím going to use the term a life of itís own, where that self has to go through the balance of their time with the implications of that choice?
ELIAS: Yes, and generating their choices from that moment on.
TIM: And does that then make them a specific focus, that if they decide to transition at some point in time...?
ELIAS: No. No. This is not another focus. This is a probable self within a probable reality, which is connected to you. It is an aspect of you. It is an expressed probability of choices, and it continues within its choice but it is an aspect of you, of your focus.
TIM: So weíve often heard many folks talk about creating a winning lottery ticket, and Iím sure that many people have fantasized about that. When theyíre doing that or imagining that, are many people creating a probable self that is actually the winner of this lottery and going forward with sums of money that theyíve basically created?
ELIAS: At times. Not always, for...
TIM: So imagination by itself isnít necessarily creating a probable self every time.
ELIAS: Correct. It is a communication. It is not creating that. It is communicating to you that it has been created, which if an individual is generating a communication to themselves that is expressed through imagination that they have engaged in winning the lottery and they are experiencing in conjunction with that even momentarily, they are offering themselves a communication that that has been created.
TIM: Very interesting. Well, this is lot to digest. I appreciate your time, as always. In respect for Mary, I think weíre reaching the end of the hour. But just one final question before we go. My wife, essence name Mierra, there seems to be a very real connection. Have she and I shared other focuses?
ELIAS: Yes, many.
TIM: Ah, interesting! Is there one that you could give me that I could try to explore and find out about?
ELIAS: Very well, I shall offer two. One within the physical location of Greece, you incorporate an intimate relationship. You incorporate each the same genders that you express now, and in that relationship and that focus you generate an extended time framework with each other in partnership many, many, many years. You also generate what you would term to be quite a pleasurable experience in that relationship. I may express to you, you engage with each other what you term to be soul mates.
You also incorporate another focus, an Arabian focus. This focus is much more colorful (laughs), in which you do also incorporate an intimate relationship but you enjoy activities and experiences that are challenging, in a manner of speaking, and you prefer experiences that incorporate riskiness Ė engaging more shady activities with other individuals and humoring yourselves with your escapades, so to speak. (Laughs)
TIM: Our genders in this particular focus?
ELIAS: In that focus you are both male, brothers, neither of which throughout your focuses choose to be partnering yourselves with other individuals, but in a manner of speaking you have partnered yourselves together as brothers in tremendous intimacy, somewhat as partners in crime. (Laughs)
TIM: Whatís the time frame of these two focuses?
ELIAS: First focus, within the location of Greece, within a time framework of early 1700s; Arabian focus, mid-1100s.
TIM: Okay, Iíll have some fun with that. (Elias laughs) Our time is up. Is there anything else before we go that youíd like to say?
ELIAS: Merely to continue to be noticing and be open to your truths.
TIM: Wonderful. Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.
TIM: Take care.
ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next meeting and I shall continue to be offering my energy to you in mere greetings Ė you may be anticipating your light within your vehicle! (Laughs)
TIM: I appreciate that, and feel free to engage as often as youíd like. Itís a lot of fun.
ELIAS: So I shall Ė and be reminding you to be playful!
TIM: Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: To you, my dear friend, in affection, au revoir.
TIM: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 7:23 AM.
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