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Sunday, December 29, 1996

<  Session 143 (Group/Castaic)  >

“The Remembrance Continues”


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Cathy (Shynla), Gail (William), Jim (Yarr), Jene (Rudy), Bob (Simon), Norm (Stephen), Reta (Dehl), and two new participants, Laura (Javet), and Rose (Sasha).

Vic’s note: This is the second “Sasha” to attend a session.

Elias arrives at 6:52 PM. (Time was twenty seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening. (To Laura and Rose) Welcome to new essences! (To Vicki) We engage once again! (To Group) This evening, I shall allow for your questions, as you have incorporated some time element to be viewing your essence families and their counterpart action and this information. Therefore, you may inquire.

RETA: You mean he wants the questions first? Gee whiz! You want to play the game, but you just want to talk about the essence families?

ELIAS: This is your choice.

RETA: Okay. Well, we’re trying to get through some of our children, and so I would like to ask you about both their essence family and maybe their alignment. The first one would be my daughter-in-law Sally who lives in Riverside, Sally Farb. I would like to say she’s of the Borledim essence family, and aligned with Sumari.

ELIAS: Reverse.

RETA: Reverse? Well, she really is a good artist, there’s no doubt about that. And then her husband Joe, which is our son Joe Farb, is he in the essence family of Gramada?

ELIAS: No, although this individual focus shall not be aligned with your identification of one of these main essence families, which shall bring us into another subject matter briefly; that all of these essence families, in combination with each other, also create what you may view as subdivisions.

RETA: There was a subdivision mentioned in the Seth books by Sue Watkins, and she said a subdivision of Gramada was Gramash.

ELIAS: This would not be the family alignment of which you are inquiring, but there is another essence family which is a subdivision that would be. Now, I shall pose to you to be investigating intuitively, to be finding the identification of one subdivision of family. Attempt!

RETA: Attempt a subdivision of a family? Sumari?

ELIAS: Each essence family, within combination of other essence families, has subdivisions.

RETA: And you want us to think about the two that might be the subdivision connection? I’m going to think about that one for Joe. Borledim would be the other one, but the other subdivision I wouldn’t know. Okay, let us try another one. We’ll have to think about that one. Beverly, which is my daughter-in-law Beverly Farb. Sumafi, her essence, and Tumold, alignment?

ELIAS: Sumafi, no. Sumari.

RETA: Sumari? Okay, but not aligned with Tumold?

ELIAS: No.

RETA: Thought she was the healer. My daughter Susan, you told me before that she was aligned with Milumet, but would her essence family be Borledim?

ELIAS: No.

RETA: No. Boy, I’m not hitting it very good! My daughter Karen, who is in New York City, Ilda?

ELIAS: Sumari.

RETA: I had Sumari as a counterpart. But not aligned with Ilda?

ELIAS: No.

RETA: Boy! Gonna have to use more intuition and less intellect! And I never have guessed myself. I haven’t had an intuition on myself because I read all of these essences and I start thinking, well, I’m a bit of this and I’m a bit of that. So the closest I can come for an essence family is an alignment with Borledim.

ELIAS: Alignment.

RETA: Okay. And a friend of mine who lives in Seattle, his name is Keith, and I would say Ilda?

ELIAS: No.

NORM: My brother Harlan Farb in Florida, I believe he’s Ilda for the essence family.

ELIAS: Aligned.

RETA: We’ve got a lot to learn! Well, thank you. I’ll have to think of these others.

VICKI: I have a question about the counterpart action of the families. When we started this discussion, you defined the action between the Milumet and the Zuli families as being an opposite counterpart action. I’m not clear on the type of counterpart action between some of the other families, and I’m also curious if the counterpart action between the Borledim family with each family would be considered different with each family.

ELIAS: No. The counterpart action with the Borledim family is the same action with each of the families. As you view our little story of the little clouds in review of the explanations of the counterpart action of these families, you shall hold the ability to identify which type of counterpart action each engages.

CATHY: I have a question. I want to know if my affinity towards the Zuli family has anything to do with a teeny tiny slight before the beginning remembrance of counterpart action between Milumet and Zuli?

ELIAS: Yes. The day for remembrance!

JENE: I’d like to know if Rudy has an alignment with the Vold?

ELIAS: No. (Pause) I shall also express to those of you who engage in participation of the creation of your new city to be offering yourselves your intent name, to be joining with the other Seers.

BOB: Oh, cool!

RETA: There’s an intent name?

JIM: Yeah, we all went through that months ago. (Much laughter)

ELIAS: Consider carefully, for those who have chosen their intent name previously are not all satisfied with their choice! (Laughter)

RETA: Could you describe intent name just a bit?

ELIAS: Listen to your intuition. Listen to yourself, and give yourself a name which is descriptive of you and your desire and intent. This offers you the opportunity to be connecting with and understanding your intent and desire. It also offers you the opportunity to view how you do not connect with your intent and your desire within physical focus, and choose an intent name which is not descriptive of your intent but is springing forth from your thought process in rational thinking. You choosing an intent name may have the benefit of those who have gone before (laughter) and tread weakly on the ice! (We all crack up)

BOB: I have a question. You gave us our essence name, or revealed it to us. Is there a correct intent name, or is that actually a choice?

ELIAS: This is a choice.

BOB: So if it’s a choice, how can it not accurately reflect intent if it’s simply a name?

ELIAS: The purpose of this exercise is for you to be connecting with your intent and desire, and identifying these.

BOB: So if I chose a name that was inconsistent with my actual intent, you could reveal that to me?

ELIAS: Correct.

BOB: But if the name was consistent, you would also reveal that. But it could be any variety of names that would be consistent.

ELIAS: It is your choice. You may be creative. (Grinning at Cathy) Shynla may be quite instructional in the area! (Much laughter)

BOB: So we’ve done this before the beginning of when I came? (The group confirms) With little success?

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

NORM: Can I ask a question about a connection? When I was reading part of the sessions, Ron had asked a question in regard to his connection with trees. You gave him an answer that whatever it was, it was incorrect. It was in regard to redwood trees. Immediately I thought that my essence connection with trees would be a willow tree. Is that right? Do I get a point, or no point?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) This is not an element within our game, which is not deserving of a point!

RETA: Okay. Just a yes or no will do.

ELIAS: Partial.

NORM: Partial being the fact that it has all these beautiful limbs that come down and all of the (?) focuses. That’s what I thought of.

ELIAS: Very creative!

NORM: Thank you!

ELIAS: You are welcome! (Laughter, a pause, and then to Norm)

We move into an area of awareness presently that is demanding of your attention in wider areas than you are allowing. I allow for certain indulgences, but I also move within consciousness and express subjectively information to move with you to an understanding of our present awareness within this forum. This is a common action that is accomplished with all individuals that participate willingly within this forum. There are deeper concepts for you to grasp. Therefore, I express to you to be contemplating this and to not be concerning yourselves with smaller, so to speak, concepts that are not necessarily benefiting you within your movement in approaching and moving into the action of the shift. It matters not your connection with a manifestation of a tree. Do you understand?

“Before the beginning,” I have expressed that some essences of these essence families chose to remain partially manifest; not entirely physically manifest. Some chose to be physically manifest and continue. Some of those choosing to partially manifest have allowed elements of their consciousness to form your planet. Therefore, the elements of your planet, your oceans, your mountains, your trees, your vegetation, your deserts, are all aspects of consciousness, within cooperation of yourself, of these essences; deposits, so to speak, which form physical matter. Therefore, you are connected, in your terms, to all of these elements, for you have created them, within cooperation.

Many concepts were stated within the beginnings of our sessions for the individuals within that forum. Their understanding was slight. Therefore, we have approached information slowly in offering elements that they may understand and connect with. Presently, this is not as necessary as once it was. Therefore, you may view within our earlier sessions simplistic explanations which have been elaborated upon subsequently, and shall continue to be.

NORM: I’d love to talk about the probabilities I see in the future. Is that one of the areas that would be beneficial to talk about?

ELIAS: If you are choosing.

NORM: This is my choosing. The probabilities of the shift and the probable reactions that will occur throughout all of society appear to be quite significant in that our current textbooks, if I were to look at a university, would mostly be tossed in the garbage, so to speak, and there would be certain aspects of certain areas of knowledge that would continue to be useful. It appears that we would have to really have a true metamorphosis. I came in thinking, I guess, in a simplistic nature, in regard to a butterfly coming out of its cocoon, a metamorphosis that really is going to change this earth and how we live on it. The concept of no right or wrong, no cause and effect, is going to have major, major changes. Is this what we are being prepared for?

ELIAS: Yes; what you are preparing yourselves for.

NORM: Will we be able to help other people in a major way? Not just neighbors, but large groups of people?

ELIAS: You are already, and you shall continue to do so, within consciousness. As this new agenda moves forward, in your terms, it shall be physically affecting of more individuals also.

NORM: Is it true that the energy centers of the human body will have an additional energy center?

ELIAS: One; which is presently incorporated, but not recognized.

NORM: It’s not energized.

ELIAS: Not recognized.

RETA: And the placement is?

NORM: Over the heart.

ELIAS: Above; between your green and blue within your chart, if you are looking. This has been expressed previously, with the energy center of pink.

RETA: Can I continue that a little bit? The shift to religion two thousand years ago took all these years for people to, not all people ever did shift, but it took all these years for people to come about or understand other religions or understand it’s a code of ethics or a way of life and so on. And so now if we have this shift at this time, there are still people who haven’t even reached that first shift within themselves, of love and understanding and their code of ethics. Am I wrong in that? Are some people still learning or still trying to get to that?

ELIAS: Within the action of the initiation of your religious focus, it was incorporated and it was accepted. It has not taken two thousand years for your planet to accept this mass consciousness alignment. It was accepted immediately. You have chosen different interpretations. You have chosen many manifestations of this religious element, but the movement within mass consciousness was accepted initially.

RETA: Alright. And that’s quite some time ago, right? Within three hundred years? Within that time period?

ELIAS: Within time periods, much more quickly than this.

RETA: Okay, so the effect of that has taken a long time to change the world. Well, it has been changing the world for a long time. So now if we go into this next shift, are those people who have been through an inner sense of that code or a change within themselves be more accepting of the shift, this new shift? Or will that belong to just a few? I’m trying to think of the time, and of course you don’t have time. We don’t have time, excuse me. But I’m trying to think of the length of time it has taken to even out a little bit more, the cultures and the ethics and so on, and we have this new paradigm shift. Are you saying that will be in the same way? Immediate, or slower, or will it take another seventy-five years to get it working? Have you got our linear time in mind?

ELIAS: If you inquiring of a time element for complete accomplishment of this shift, this has been stated. This shift shall be accomplished within this new century. If you are inquiring for a specific date, I shall not offer this, for this is a probability.

RETA: I’m thinking of all the different masses, the different cultures, the different nations all over the world that have a different understanding, and it just boggles my mind to think of them to be able to come to one understanding.

ELIAS: Ah! They shall not be of one like mind!

RETA: Never could be, with all the different peoples we have.

NORM: Nobody wants to be!

ELIAS: Their awareness shall be the same, essentially, in its wideness. Their belief systems may not be the same. You are not shifting from a religious focus into one all-encompassing world religion, or one planetary singular belief system! You are not moving into this action.

I have expressed to you that you continue within physical focus. You shall not alter your physical expression. You shall not be aliens, walking upon your planet earth cosmically oriented! You shall be continuing within the manifestation that you have chosen presently until you choose another experimentation of physical manifestation; but this manifestation is efficient. Therefore, it shall continue, and you shall hold a wider awareness; an acceptance of established belief systems, an understanding of these belief systems, and also an awareness of other areas of consciousness and an active interaction with these other areas of consciousness objectively.

This is not to say that all individuals upon your planet shall agree within belief systems and all hold the same focus. You are all unique and individual. Therefore, you shall continue within your uniqueness and your individuality.

BOB: Can I ask a question? Would we expect to see more tolerance, because of this widening of awareness, between groups of different orientation? I think Reta is looking for a little bit more enlightened planet, would like to see that. By incorporating one religion, that certainly would be one way to do it, but as you say, that’s not going to happen. So do you see more cooperation and tolerance between different points of view as this awareness widens?

ELIAS: Absolutely. If you are holding an awareness and an acceptance of belief systems, your tolerance shall increase. If you hold an awareness and an understanding of self and focuses and essence, and the knowledge that other individuals upon your planet are also you, you shall eliminate many of your divisions and your intolerance. As your awareness of self increases, your awareness of all, and of your reality, increases. As you are accepting of belief systems, they no longer hold their intensity.

BOB: Thank you.

RETA: Thanks.

ELIAS: You are welcome. We shall break, and you may continue.

BREAK: 7:32 PM.
RESUME 7:49 PM. (Time was no time!)

ELIAS: And we continue with our discussion and your questions.

NORM: I had a question during the break. In regard to the probable worlds that were in place in the last fifty years and our threat of the nuclear holocaust in this particular world, was there a probable world that had a nuclear holocaust, and also maybe another one that had a germ holocaust?

ELIAS: Is there! (Grinning) Yes; for what you may imagine, you also create within other probabilities.

NORM: I hope I didn’t create that! Is there no constraint on creation by individuals?

ELIAS: Ah! Limitation to creativity! Only what you place upon yourself, although within essence you place no limitation upon yourself. Therefore, no. There is no limitation to creativity.

NORM: Incredible! This experience, seeing that occur by the other essences and this group of essences related with this dimensional focus, is that the reason why the shift was brought about?

ELIAS: You have, within agreement, within mass consciousness, chosen the probability of this shift.

NORM: And why was that chosen?

ELIAS: You are bored. (Smiling)

NORM: Good answer! Need more experimentation.

RETA: Have a little war here or there, annihilation here or there. We’re bored!

NORM: I can imagine that in wars past, one focus may have killed its alternate or a fragment or whatever, a closely related focus. I guess that has occurred.

ELIAS: Within probabilities, yes.

NORM: But that’s neither good or bad.

ELIAS: No.

NORM: That’s just experimental.

ELIAS: I shall offer essence names. (Directing to Rose) Sasha. (Grinning at Vicki) Ah! You are remembering once again! Another focus within your same time period. Impossible! (To Laura) Javet.

VICKI: And how would I spell that?

ELIAS: J-A-V-E-T.

JENE: Is Emeral not Sasha as well?

ELIAS: No; Misha. But another focus holds this essence name also.

BOB: Does that imply some sort of link between those focuses or essences, that the name is the same?

ELIAS: They are of the same essence; different focuses.

BOB: And this name came up in another session where another focus came through or something?

VICKI: No, in another individual who attended one of our sessions.

BOB: Was here from another focus???

VICKI: No, was here just like you’re here.

BOB: Oh. So aren’t they in the same physical focus?

ELIAS: Correct.

BOB: I’m not understanding ...

ELIAS: And you are continuing once again, to be thinking within your thought process very singularly.

BOB: As usual!

ELIAS: You are you. You are the entirety of your entity, for you are encapsulated within your physical expression. Incorrect! You are essence. You are a focus of essence. You incorporate the entirety of essence within you, but you are an individual personality focus of essence. Essence holds many focuses. You may manifest more than one focus of essence within one time period.

BOB: Okay ...

RETA: There was a description in a Seth book about this to help us describe it, and it was like Christmas lights on a long string and that would be your essence, and being plugged in would be with your essence family, and all the lights twinkling on would be your focuses coming in and out and back and forth. Would that be an analogy that we could understand?

ELIAS: You may think in these terms if you are choosing. This is simplistic, but effective; although no more simplistic than our explanation of camera lenses. Therefore, if this is helpful to you to visualize a concept, this is acceptable.

BOB: But as you describe to me different focuses within one period of the same essence, would they always have the same essence name?

ELIAS: All focuses of essence hold the same tone or essence name.

BOB: Which is represented by the names you’ve given us, which are not necessarily a name. They’re just representative of that tone.

ELIAS: Correct.

BOB: So if another Simon were to come into the group, I would have some commonality with that Simon.

ELIAS: Not necessarily!

Vic’s note: Here, Bob’s laughter is very reminiscent of many of us who have been attending sessions for a while. Inherent in this specific laughter is confusion and a hint of craziness. Welcome, Bob!)

BOB: Because?

ELIAS: We have addressed this issue previously also. You may hold the same word as name within your translation, and the tone may not be the same. You may not be of the same essence; just as I have offered the example that you may express one word, but you may use different inflection which will be changing of this word. In this same manner, you may hold the same essence name, to your way of thinking, but you may not be of the same essence and tone.

BOB: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

NORM: I have some questions in regard to energy. We sometimes refer to awarized energy. I’ve thought that all energy was conscious, meaning awarized should be meaning conscious. Is it true that all energy is conscious?

ELIAS: Yes.

NORM: So all energy is awarized.

ELIAS: Yes.

NORM: And there is numberless forms of energy.

ELIAS: Yes.

NORM: Okay. Let me think about that for a while.

ELIAS: Energy did not precede consciousness. (Egging Norm on)

NORM: Oh, really?

ELIAS: Energy did not create consciousness. Consciousness creates energy.

NORM: So consciousness does not necessarily mean energy.

ELIAS: It is synonymous, but consciousness also is beyond.

NORM: Energy.

ELIAS: Correct. There is no energy without consciousness.

NORM: And consciousness creates the energy with consciousness.

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: The energy is consciousness.

ELIAS: Correct; which is creating of all things, within all dimensions, within all focuses, within all areas of consciousness. All of your mass, all of your matter, everything that you identify is created within energy by links of consciousness.

NORM: And when we blink in and out, the energy as mass has a consciousness that knows how to reform?

ELIAS: Yes.

NORM: But it’s a probability that it will reform in the next instant, or in the next interval between the blinks.

ELIAS: All action is a probability; but you choose, as has been stated, a pool of probabilities that you follow.

NORM: Anything follows.

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: Atoms, anything.

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: And the atoms themselves aid in the formation of their probability.

ELIAS: As do you.

NORM: So it is a mass consciousness control of the probability.

ELIAS: It is a choice.

NORM: Yes. At any one time it is a choice, meaning at that time it was controlled to be that, and then in the next instant it could be something else.

ELIAS: This is a perception; control. This is a device of your physical focus. It is an invention in concept. It is not a tangible reality and truth. It is a perception.

NORM: There is some containment. There is containment because, for example, these essences associated with this dimensional focus are bored, so it sounds to me like there is containment intuitively.

ELIAS: Within one respect, in your choice of physical manifestation you may view what you think of as containment, although there is no containment, for there are no closed systems.

NORM: Just not too available!

ELIAS: This may be, but they are not closed systems!

NORM: You’ve got to be clever, is what you’re saying.

ELIAS: Aware.

NORM: Aware, right. Okay. (Pause)

VICKI: I have a question for Uriel. Uriel is experiencing a lot of negative reactions to our ongoing interaction with our new friends which is unusual for him, so much so that he sent a question today wondering if you would comment on his lack of tolerance presently.

ELIAS: He has drawn himself to this experience for his own noticing; for acceptance. He parallels in movement, as has been stated previously, with these individuals. Therefore, he presents himself also with similar challenges for his own noticing and moving through belief systems.

No individual is less than another. No individual’s belief systems are wrong. Your belief systems are not right. Each individual’s creation is a creation of reality. Therefore, he draws himself to this experience to view differences and his own response in lack of tolerance and acceptance, underline twice, within the recognition that each individual creates their own reality and it is reality, and there is no right or wrong reality, and that individuals upon this planet of yours are also, within consciousness, counterpart or part of you. Therefore, within acceptance of self there is acceptance of all, within a recognition of no separation. There is no better. There is no worse. There are different choices of manifestation for different experiences. No one is more or better, or upon a higher plane or at a higher “level” (laughter) than another. They are all choices of individuals for their individual experience.

JENE: When describing a choice in consciousness like we were discussing the other night, obviously you were listening, what would be a better description for understanding? We knew at the time levels was not going to work, but in that moment it was like understanding a concept at that particular point in time, and then how a truth or a concept changes. As you widen and you understand more, then that also alters. What would be a better choice than level?

ELIAS: Truth does not change. Your interpretation or understanding of truths may change. This may fluctuate. You do not occupy different levels of awareness. You do manifest different awarenesses. You are not occupying planes. You each do not occupy this plane, and Elias occupies this plane! You all occupy this plane. (Demonstrating with hand gestures) All essences hold the same elements. You hold different tone, but you hold the same elements.

You view focuses. You do not view the entirety of essence. Therefore, within essence what you view is one focus, and this essence may hold many scholarly, very wide focuses. You view the experience of one. You then create a value judgment upon this one. You express that it is your duty to be bringing along the awareness and consciousness of this focus, this individual, raising them to your level of awareness. Within essence, they are aware, as are you. They are experiencing what they have chosen to experience. They move into the awareness of the shift within the choices that they choose for their experience within each individual focus. Your action within consciousness is to be helpful in affecting objective understanding. This is not to be placing value judgment, for this is not helpful within consciousness. Acceptance and understanding of each individual’s creation of reality is helpful.

I am understanding your difficulty in explanation to Michael and Lawrence of certain individuals which Michael views quite narrowly as sheep, in his all-encompassing wideness! (Laughter) He has not quite understood completely that each individual seeks the information that speaks to them. This may seem to you to be mundane. This may seem to you to be unintelligible; but within consciousness and within subjective activity, individuals draw themselves to the experiences that they shall identify with. You draw yourselves to this forum. Others draw themselves to abduction! Others draw themselves to communion with a seed. It is the individual’s experience.

All individuals, within agreement, have chosen the action of this shift. This is a global movement. Therefore, they shall move! You may not understand or recognize their movement, and this is unimportant! It is not for you to be judgmental. It is for you, within your expression of essence, to be accepting and helpful within an allowance of energy, to be furthering of the action effortlessly of the shift. (To Norm) Now you may speak!

NORM: The first thing I would like to know is, I was on a walk this afternoon and I heard a funny sound behind me, and to my left and to the rear, of a laughing, slobbering dog. Do you know anything about that???

ELIAS: (Laughing) I am insulted! I know no more of this action than I may be knowing of bon jour! (Grinning at Vicki, who heard a very audible “bon jour” at work that morning) I have expressed to you to be watching!

NORM: Hearing! I’m hearing!

ELIAS: You have encountered this essence, and you shall continue to encounter this essence, and you need not attend this forum to be encountering, always! This essence is much more creative than only within the forum of these sessions! (Chuckling)

NORM: Talking about creativity, are there plants and animals still being created on this earth?

ELIAS: Yes.

NORM: Not evolutionary; created.

ELIAS: Correct. I shall offer one more bit of information. You presently, Stephen, are on the right track with your equation physically. Now understand that there is a subjective answer to this equation also. You have connected with the objective. Very good! Continue with your quest.

NORM: Thank you. I appreciate that.

VICKI: Would it be possible to remove Michael’s jacket?

ELIAS: If you are wishing, yes. I shall be removing of this garment. Are you wishing of more questions?

JIM: I have a question of curiosity for Borloh. She’s experienced on and off a feeling of a pushing on her back, something pushing forward and then it stops. It’s happened recently, and I’m curious as to some insight as to what that might be related to, or whom.

ELIAS: This would not be a whom, if you are looking for outside influences, in your terms. This is a creation of this individual’s own manifesting for her own noticing.

JIM: Of? She has to find that out? So it would be the same as my aches that I create?

ELIAS: Very good. Very close! You do not objectively understand what you have said. She experiences a pushing, and you experience the discomfort, and they are very connected.

JIM: So the issue between both of us is the same issue.

ELIAS: It is the same.

JIM: And looking at those issues, and the exercise I did with Lawrence that day, it’s not always the obvious either, is it?

ELIAS: Quite, and you each hold different perspectives of the same issue.

JIM: And the exercise in clarity, I try to work with the exercise all the time. I’m getting a lot of different views of it, but it’s still locked in. It’s a very deep issue, isn’t it? Something we have to confront together?

ELIAS: This issue is, as has been stated previously to you, directly within correlation to the ongoing issue of which we have spoken many times. And also you have, as I have expressed to you, only manifest anew, and moved your physical expression from your foot to your shoulder; for the symbolism of your foot was accurate at the time period of its manifestation. Now the symbolism of the shoulder, and weightiness, is accurate within manifestation. The pushing is a symbolization of an irritation to move a desire, of wanting to be witnessing a movement.

JIM: All I really need to do is open up my eyes.

ELIAS: And view what lies before you.

JIM: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I shall be looking forward to the time period that Yarr disengages this issue of which we have spoken for much of our time, and you shall accomplish.

JIM: Yes, I shall.

ELIAS: Very good.

NORM: I would like to talk a little bit more about consciousness and energy and the creation of personalized energy. Evidently, an entity or a focus can create energy and if it is not expressed appropriately, it can be manifest as a disease. So inaction creates energy and can be manifest as a disease. Is that true?

ELIAS: Partially. It is an option of manifestation. All energy shall be expressed, in ...

NORM: In what terms?

ELIAS: In your terms, in one way or another. All energy shall express itself. If you are disallowing energy to be expressing itself naturally, you shall manifest creations of expressing this energy. This may appear in many different fashions. We have spoken of the creation of your geysers with respect to this subject. In blocking of impulses you may be creating of geysers, for you are holding energy that shall be expressed. You may also create what you term to be disease through this action, although this is not the rule. You may not look to all individuals that manifest disease and express that they have held back energy which is expressing within manifestation of this type.

NORM: They could have chosen it.

ELIAS: All creations are choice, but they may choose other reasons for manifestation. Some individuals may choose intentionally to be creating of disease. Some individuals may be creating of these manifestations within an action of lack of attention.

NORM: The term expression, that’s the thing that I can’t get a hold of, the extent of what that means. Energy wants to express itself. What is the extent and the totality of that expression, and can I deflect it to something else? Can I deflect it to an animal, for example, or to a table?

ELIAS: You may manipulate portions of energy. There is no totality.

NORM: The totality of the types of expression is what I mean. The set.

ELIAS: There is no totality.

NORM: Expression then can mean anything that I choose it to mean.

ELIAS: Yes; and unbounded. You choose, through your belief systems, limitations. This is not to say that within actuality, energy itself is bounded, for it is not. You choose for this table to appear as it appears. You choose, within your perception, to be instructive and communicative with the links of consciousness forming the atoms which form this table, to continue within a cooperation and form. This is not to say that this table, within energy, is bounded to this form. It is not.

NORM: It can decide by itself not to be a table.

ELIAS: It will not, but it may! It will not for you have created the agreement of consciousness, within instruction of links of consciousness, to be forming certain manifestations within what you view to be matter. Therefore, within cooperation, they continue.

RETA: Can I go back to the expressions, energy that needs to be expressed? You as an individual can express that sometimes in disease, but most of the time are you expressing it outwardly to another, or to another movement, or to ... Could you give me some concepts of the other ways you might be sending this energy out that is not to be held back?

ELIAS: You express energy continuously within each moment of your physical existence. We are speaking of energy that is blocked or contained, within your terms. In this, if you are blocking, so to speak, or containing impulses and not allowing the expression of these impulses, you may find yourself, at a given moment, expressing yourself explosively as a geyser.

RETA: Oh, I can understand that!

ELIAS: This action has occurred as a buildup of unexpressed energy. This occurs also within mass events within societies. Within cultures, there are unexpressed ideals, desires. These may continue to be unexpressed for a time period, and then they shall erupt and you engage revolution. You mirror this action within your individual selves also. I have expressed to you that individually, you mirror mass events, and vice versa.

Very well. We shall continue with our game at our next encounter. Therefore, Shynla, you are “off the hook!” Little fish! (Laughter)

CATHY: Means you are too, Gail!

GAIL: Shhh!

ELIAS: And I shall be expressing much affection to you all, and I shall be awaiting our next encounter. (To Laura and Rose) You are also quite welcome to be returning. Therefore, I depart lovingly. Au revoir!

Elias departs at 8:45 PM.


Vic’s note: After the session, Elizabeth arrived, figuring we would still be in session. This instigated a pop-in at 9:18 PM.

ELIAS: Welcome to Elizabeth! I wish only to extend affection and a delight at your reincorporation. You may incorporate your questioning at your choice of time period. The remembrance continues, and I shall depart once again. Au revoir!

Elias departs at 9:19 PM.


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