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Friday, October 17, 2003

<  Session 1456 (Private/Phone)  >

ďBeliefs About Co-CreationĒ

ďWinning the LotteryĒ


Participants: Mary (Michael), Don (Allard) and Dale (Jene).

Elias arrives at 9:19 AM. (Arrival time is 13 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good day!

DON: Good day!

DALE: Good day!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And how shall we proceed?

DALE: Well, I have a quick question.

ELIAS: Very well.

DALE: Seville/Lawrence that I met yesterday at the coffee shop, was Lawrence/Vic projecting her energy into that individual for that specific moment?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: I thought so.

DON: Interesting.

DALE: Yeah. Iíll tell you that story later. (1) (Elias chuckles) Oh, and who was in the bathtub the other day? Was it you or Lawrence tickling me in the bathtub, making me think there was some alien or something? (2)

ELIAS: That is my energy.

DALE: That was pretty spooky Ďcause all my horror movies came up! You know, the eel has come up through the bathtub! (Elias laughs) But it was fun also!

DON: I was planning to start this session, Elias, by extending an invitation to Ayla, Lazour, Joseph and Ruburt to objectively participate a little more in this session if they chose, in any way they chose. I had read that you said to Myranda that if one asks for such a thing during a session, one should let Mary know beforehand. I asked Mary about it and she actually declined. (Elias chuckles) I wonder if you had anything to say about that. Iím not extending the invitation.

ELIAS: I am understanding and I may express to you, in association with the energy exchange, it is Michaelís choice of what he chooses to incorporate in allowance of different energies. I am understanding of his choice also, as it has been expressed from the onset of this exchange that he has chosen not to be interactive with the other essences, which is acceptable to all. I may express to you, as I have also to Myranda, that you do incorporate the ability to be interactive with any of these essences in any time framework. They are always available to you and willing to be participating in exchange with you in different manners. Therefore, your choice is not denied, either.

DON: I see. Iíve felt, as weíve talked about several times before, that I have interacted with several of them.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DON: Yet, just as a theoretical question, I suppose, trying to bring it back to myself, it could appear to me that I am the victim of Maryís, of Michaelís choice. (Elias chuckles) You would say Iím not, it would seem to me, because I can choose to engage the other essencesí energy myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

DON: However, my choices seem to be limited in how I can do that by Michaelís choice. What would you have to say about that?

ELIAS: I may express to you that your choices may be limited but not in association with Michaelís choices. They are limited in association with your beliefs, what you allow yourself in your expressions and what you allow yourself in your trust of your abilities. Michael does not incorporate any ability that you also do not incorporate.

I may express to you, Allard, Michael is not what you would term to be special. Michael has merely allowed himself an openness to an energy exchange and a willingness to participate in it. But even in this, in my exchange with Michael and my interaction with all of you, that is ultimately Michaelís choice. I would be compliant with that choice if he were choosing to discontinue participating in this energy exchange.

DON: Iím not getting quite to the heart of my question, I think. Iíll try it from a different angle. Iíve been generating a lot of imagery in the last week or two of, I guess I would say my beliefs in co-creation. And letís see, how to phrase this? Well, hereís one way I could put it. Do you recall an example you gave some time ago where you discussed or gave scenarios in which two people were deciding upon seeing a motion picture together?

ELIAS: Correct.

DON: It would seem to me that when I read that, the interchange was actually a description of co-creation between those two people in every one of those scenarios. One might decide not to go to the movie with the other one and the other one really had no recourse, then. They had no way of getting to choose that that person would go with them, regardless.

ELIAS: I am understanding your perception.

DON: So maybe Iím not understanding what you mean by co-creation, or what I mean by it.

ELIAS: You are defining your meaning of co-creation and I have expressed many times previously that you do not co-create. You may cooperate but you do not co-create, for that implies that you do not create all of your reality, and that is incorrect.

Your choices are not dependent upon other individualís choices, but the snare is that in actuality you do not realize yet that you actually do create all of your reality. You do offer yourselves examples that you do actually create your reality, but you continue to question that for the familiar association is that you actually do not create all of your reality, that there are some elements of your reality that are created by other individuals. This is what generates much confusion in association with this information with many, many, many individuals. For, this is what I am meaning in the time frameworks in which I express to all of you that you actually do not recognize yet that you create all of your reality, and you do not generate an objective understanding of what that means and how you do it.

Therefore, you continue to perceive that there are some elements of your reality that are not being created by you. In this, there are what we may term to be several of your most significant expressions in your focuses that are the most strongly affected by these beliefs that you do not actually create all of your reality and that some of your reality is dependent upon the choices and the actions of other individuals, which is how you allow other individuals to dictate your choices and you deny your own freedom.

One direction that is very strongly affected is in association with relationships. Another direction that is very strongly affected is in association with money.

DON: You pegged that for Jene and I right there!

ELIAS: For you generate a perception that you receive money Ė rather than creating it, you ACQUIRE it from other individuals.

DALE: Itís the truth! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ah, and it is one of your truths! You also generate perceptions that in association with relationships, you co-create. You create some of your reality and some of your reality is dependent upon what the other individual creates. Therefore, this, being another truth, is very strongly affecting of your perception, and therefore is quite realistically affecting of your reality.

But this is the point of interacting with all of you and sharing this information, that you may allow yourselves to explore and to objectively realize that these truths are not actually true and that you incorporate much more freedom than you allow yourselves. You incorporate much more abilities than you allow yourselves to express, and therein lies your freedom.

DALE: I just want to make sure Iím thinking of this correctly. For instance, in regard to the other essences objectively participating, I didnít connect as strongly within beliefs to what Don expressed as his reservations about it. So, to me, in not co-creating, I donít think my beliefs would say that... I guess I would think that Iím not creating Maryís reality...

ELIAS: Correct.

DALE: ...that itís my choice, and so I may perceive and therefore generate a Mary who was not in disagreement with it.

ELIAS: Or as you are creating your reality, you may incorporate an allowance of other essences to be interactive and bypass Michael...

DALE: Correct.

ELIAS: ...and in that, what you may generate is not incorporating audibly hearing myself but hearing another essence. That would be your creation without Michaelís participation. That does not require Michaelís participation. That is your creation and your allowance. Therefore if you are successful, as you receive your recording another voice shall appear upon your recording. (3)

DALE: Itís really not far-fetched, because I have created that in the sense of me and Vic creating different words on a tape.

ELIAS: Correct.

DON: I know Iíve been addressing to my truths in the truth wave. All Iíve been doing so far feels to me like Iíve been generating imagery to show me how strong they are.

ELIAS: Ah, but do not discount yourself, my friend.

DON: I donít mean to discount myself with that, but I just kind of wanted to confirm and see if you agreed that thatís pretty much what Iíve done so far.

ELIAS: Yes, but this is quite significant. For without allowing yourself to identify and recognize them, you also cannot address to them.

DALE: Iíve been trying to remember to look at it as my opportunities to myself.

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: Not always successfully, but sometimes I do get the glimpse of oh, yes, this is me giving myself the opportunity to view it and have choice.

ELIAS: Correct. Even if you do not move into an expression of objectively recognizing that you incorporate other choices yet, it remains significant that you are offering yourself information and you are allowing yourself to realize the strength of your truths. For that in itself generates a movement in energy in which eventually you shall allow yourself to recognize your choices and also your power. (4)

DON: That sounds good. I guess that feels like thatís exactly the direction Iíve been heading.

ELIAS: Yes, I am in agreement.

Now; let me also express to you that another element of this wave concerning truths involves the reality of power, and this is an expression that is somewhat fearful for many, many, many individuals. You are not accustomed to experiencing the tremendous power that you actually incorporate, and there are fears associated with how that shall be expressed and doubts of how each of you shall express it, and whether you shall express it in the right manner or not. For the duplicity moves in with those identifications, and although in some respects you may find yourselves generating an excitement and a desire and an attraction to allowing yourself the expression of that power, there also is an underlying skepticism concerning the right and wrong expression of it. There are many, many factors that are involving in this particular wave, but ultimately this particular wave may prove to be your most empowering one.

DON: You mean that generally, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: Is that correct? You mentioned once, I think, that during this wave we will, as a generalization, tend to address to one of our major truths. Is that correct?

ELIAS: In any particular time framework, yes. Not to be addressing to all of them simultaneously, for that would be quite overwhelming. Therefore, in an automatic expression of recognition of that, you address to them individually, one in one time framework.

DON: Iíve been feeling like Iím addressing to two simultaneously. One would be my truth of co-creation, particularly in relationships, simultaneously with my materialist truths.

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: Maybe Iím skipping back and forth between them.

ELIAS: Yes. And you may begin to recognize that many of these truths intertwine with each other.

DON: Exactly. Those two do, for example.

ELIAS: Yes, and therefore you may be addressing to one more strongly than another. But you also shall recognize that there are other truths that are intertwined with one main truth that you may be addressing to more strongly. Are you understanding?

DON: Yes.

ELIAS: This is the reason that I expressed to you previously that it is not necessary to be strongly addressing to more than one. For in addressing to merely one truth, as they are intertwined, you automatically are also addressing to others and other beliefs that may not necessarily be as absolute and may not necessarily be classified as a truth.

In a manner of speaking, it generates a type of domino effect. By addressing to one that incorporates a strength, you automatically are also addressing to many others, but without the effort. This is what I expressed to you previously, that you shall begin to notice different expressions within your movements within your focus that may have been an issue previously, and almost magically, they are no longer.

DON: Oh, Iíve had that happen, I think!

ELIAS: Yes!

DON: I donít even pay attention, because theyíre gone.

ELIAS: Correct. They are not gone; you have moved into an acceptance and therefore have generated an allowance. In your objective perspective you perceive them to be gone, for they are not an issue any longer. They continue to be beliefs that are held, but they have been accepted and continue to be accepted, and therefore not an issue. And that is generated effortlessly and without any actual objective thinking or action, for you are creating the action in association with addressing to the truths. The other beliefs are automatically also addressed to and therefore become less significant and neutralized.

DALE: Weíre quite efficient!

ELIAS: Quite! (Chuckles)

DON: When we were talking about Mllarros and thought and my conceptualizations around that, has that entered into what youíre saying for me so far?

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: Dale, you had a question you wanted to bring up, right? Do you feel like it?

DALE: Which one are you thinking of?

DON: Iím thinking of the matrix.

DALE: Oh, yes!

DON: Which one would you most like to?

DALE: Well, thatís kind of it. As you know, one of my strongest truths is that money is acquired. Iíve been addressing to this for quite awhile. Iím getting pretty tired of the hamster wheel, although I have been accomplishing also. Actually, I have two kind of questions about it. One has to do with talking with Mary beforehand about, I think, itís the difference between intellectualizing and experiential-izing, and what I call my Sirens that wonít allow me to choose, or that I use to not allow me to choose, differently.

For instance, I have this Money Tree lottery ticket which I allowed myself to win for about one second. Then I immediately changed it so that Iím not winning it, although I have been playing with it and I do allow the numbers to change.

ELIAS: Yes...

DALE: (Laughs) But of course now Iím dealing with my beliefs of can I stop the numbers from changing at the right time, and I really, really think and believe I want to allow myself to win this ticket! Although, itís quite apparent that Iím not choosing it.

I would like to know how Iím doing that, or how I do it so that I do allow myself to win it. (Elias chuckles) I mean, I do understand it has to do with one of my strongest energy expressions is resistance. I notice that not in just the huge things but in the tiniest mundane things from defensive driving to being careful not to cut myself with a knife or spill my coffee on me. I mean, itís me against the world, and I think thatís one of my strongest truths. Me against the world, the universe, everything Ė which of course is also me.

ELIAS: Correct!

DALE: Iíve shown this to myself both intellectually and by experience at times.

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: But I donít allow myself... I donít... How?

ELIAS: First of all, let us examine why you, and any other individual, wants to win the lottery.

DALE: Why I want to win the lottery is a few different reasons. One, Iím just tired of creating it being a struggle. I just feel like giving up the struggle about it. I know itís not a struggle, but Iím choosing for it to be a struggle.

The other part has to do with wanting to create money just flowing to me without having to have it come from me doing one thing in one direction. For instance, this is where it ties in with talking with Michael. She was saying that she decided this was gonna be her job and therefore she was going to pay herself, in a sense, for her job. Well, I canít decide one job! I keep changing my mind; I canít decide on one thing. It seems to take away being in the moment if I have to choose one direction and stay in that direction.

ELIAS: But...

DALE: And Iíve never felt a huge, huge desire or draw to do just one thing.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and it is not necessary to move in merely one direction.

DALE: I know that, but Iím not allowing myself to do it either way!

ELIAS: I am understanding, but what I am expressing to you is the reason that actually motivates this want of winning the lottery. The reason that you generate this want is not so very different from the reasons that other individuals move in this direction also, for you do not trust yourselves to allow yourself to generate creating an abundance of money without work, and you cannot objectively move into a genuine expression and understanding and reality that you actually create it rather than acquire it. Therefore, if you must acquire it, better to acquire it in one large explosion that shall guarantee your security and shall offer you freedom to incorporate whatever action you choose in any direction. Therefore, the base issue of this particular want is freedom.

But the base expression which opposes that is that you do not trust yourself. For if you express that trust of yourself, incorporating winning the lottery would no longer be such a draw. If you actually trust yourself, you may generate any action and create money in association with it, and you may change your direction as many times as you choose and continue to generate money, to create money, in association with whatever direction you move into. You may generate any expression of playfulness and what you prefer and what you enjoy, and in that also create money.

But as you do not trust yourself to incorporate that action, you move your attention to a different direction that appears to you to be easier, which is to generate winning the lottery. But winning the lottery proves to be just as difficult as generating any other action, for it is all centered around trust.

DALE: Now, to put this into laymanís... Well, not so esoterically.

ELIAS: Very well.

DALE: In a way, the times that Iíve decided, well, geez, Iím not going to try to make money or work or anything right now and what I want to do is take my book to Starbucks and read and perhaps have my own self-realization or something that I want to write about, and I come home and someone has put money in my PayPal account. Is that an example of just trusting myself and therefore allowing it?

ELIAS: Yes!

DALE: So, practice that.

ELIAS: Yes, allowance.

DALE: Itís hard, Elias.

ELIAS: But also...

DALE: I am doing it sometimes. I guess mostly what I just wanted was reassurance. It just goes against all the beliefs, though, you know?

ELIAS: I am aware.

DALE: Thatís why I call them my Sirens, my Sirens that scream to me and say, ďThat is not allowed!Ē

ELIAS: I am understanding. In this, also recognize that to create there is a requirement of action, not necessarily work, but action. You do not create without action.

DALE: So is that like the aspect of me deciding to write about something that I thought of or something?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: But then I do not have to bother with worrying about linking that to trying to make that bring me income.

ELIAS: Correct.

DALE: Itís so fucking simple.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And so difficult!

DALE: And really challenging!

ELIAS: Ha ha! So very simple and so very difficult.

DALE: Yes. Well, Iím not quite throwing this lottery ticket away yet, though.

ELIAS: Very well!

DALE: I am having fun just watching that I can change the numbers, you know?

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DON: I have a quick question.

ELIAS: Very well.

DON: Jene just remarked the other day that she thought that noticing I pronounce her essence name a little differently than you do that that might indicate some focus that Iím associating with that name.

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: I had a few impressions about that Iíd like to just run by you.

ELIAS: Very well.

DON: The biggest one I have, I think, is that I pronounce Jene not unlike a name that she had when she was my child and I was her mother in another focus. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

DON: And that would be a focus in China?

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: Would her name, at least phonetically, have been something like Z-H-E-N? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: That was a pretty rewarding mother/daughter relationship, is that right?

ELIAS: Correct. In your terms.

DALE: Was it in mine, too?

ELIAS: Yes. (All laugh) The term ďrewardingĒ is interesting. (5)

DALE: Iíll let you investigate that, too. (Elias chuckles)

DON: Associated with that, I had the impression that Iíve been a mother of a focus of hers in a few focuses we share, somewhere around five.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DON: Associated with that, I had an impression of being her uncle in England, maybe in the 19th century, where I was teaching her Ė she was a boy at the time Ė how to ride horses. I wasnít sure if I observed that focus.

ELIAS: No, you incorporate that focus, yes.

DON: Then finally there was one that I canít get any information on except that there is something unpleasant about this shared focus between us. I almost want to say that my name was something like Jene, rather than hers. Would you confirm that as far as it goes?

ELIAS: Yes, although the pronunciation of that name in that focus is Yens, but it is spelled in a manner in which it appears to be Jens.

DON: I see, and that was actually the name of my focus. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DON: Well, thatís all I had with that. Right now I realize that itís a truth of mine that I really donít believe any of this.

ELIAS: (Laughs) But we discussed this in our last meeting!

DALE: Even if itís make-believe, it sure beats working! (All laugh)

DON: I do plenty of make-believe at work as it is.

DALE: Other focus impressions, if weíre on that, I had the impression that The Traveling Wilburys, when Roy Orbison was alive, were all focuses of me, Don, Antone, Vic and Ron, either as directing focus or as observing focuses, getting together to play.

ELIAS: In observing essence roles, yes.

DALE: Except for Vic as George Harrison, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: Am I observing essence to Bob Dylan?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: And is Don also observing essence to Bob Dylan?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: Is Don also observing essence to Roy Orbison?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: Is he also observing essence to Tom Petty?

ELIAS: No.

DON: Counterpart.

DALE: Counterpart to Tom Petty?

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: Am I observing essence to Tom Petty? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: And am I observing essence to Elvis Costello? (Pause)

ELIAS: No.

DALE: No? Do I have any kind of counterpart-y or anything with Elvis Costello?

ELIAS: Counterpart.

DALE: Geez, I just went through a bunch! (Laughter) Well, it was The Traveling Wilburys, and you know, Lawrence was talking to me. (Elias chuckles) ďHandle With Care,Ē reminding me to un-armor myself.

DON: I have another impression question of Allesanderís. Is Dardannan the name that you might use to approximate the tone thatís his Dream Walker aspect? (Pause)

ELIAS: Dardayn, yes.

DON: Spell that.

ELIAS: D-A-R-D-A-Y-N (dar DAH yun).

DON: Thank you. Letís see, yeah, we still have some time. I have another short question if you donít have anything, Dale.

DALE: Go. Feel free!

DON: This is just a fun question. I was imagining that I could rank all of my focuses in terms of how close they are to my current focus in tone. If I did that, I picture Ė at least at the time I did it Ė I had the impression that Bukowski would be Ė with number one being myself, number two being most close in tone Ė I would rank him at either number five or number nine. What do you think of that?

ELIAS: In your measurement, the latter.

DON: Number nine?

ELIAS: Yes.

DON: My first thought, okay. I can rank them in that sense, then, and trust my impressions of it, I suppose.

ELIAS: Yes!

DON: Yes! Okay! (Laughter)

DALE: But you can keep trying! (Laughter)

DON: John, for example, the focus that Daleís acquainted with, I think would be about number 700? (Pause)

ELIAS: That would be a fair assessment.

DON: Yeah, in there somewhere. Do you have a question, Dale? I want to think a little bit.

DALE: God, I love you! (Laughter) I have, maybe, I hope, a related question. My fatigue and total lack of motivation, which is actually kind of a form of depression, that has to do with feeling stuck because Iím not allowing myself to trust myself, and at the same time, Iím not really allowing myself to totally distrust myself, so I kind of stalemate myself?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. But you also generate this feeling of being stuck for you are not allowing yourself to express your creativity and incorporate action, for you do not trust that any action that you shall generate shall be beneficial.

DALE: Yes, because what I should be doing is worrying about money!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And that is accomplishing quite a generous flow of that money, is it not? Ha ha ha!

DALE: But supposedly the mass reality belief is worry about it, work it out, overcome it, struggle, struggle, struggle and maybe youíll survive.

ELIAS: (Humorously) Ah! And that appears to be producing quite well!

DALE: Yeah, I know. At least Iíve been being stuck instead of doing that full-heartedly! (Elias laughs) Iíve actually released, for me, a significant amount, although... Oh, geez. Here we go into my ďwell, I could be doing it better!Ē

ELIAS: Ah, the better expression once again! (Both laugh)

DON: Well, listen, we donít have enough time for us to get into this long list of skepticism-based questions I have for you. (Elias laughs)

DALE: How unfortunate!

DON: I donít want to foist them on Dale, anyway Ė lucky for her!

DALE: I might fall asleep. (Laughs)

DON: I do actually have one that Iím kind of curious about. I actually have some ideas Iím building up that Iíll approach with you next time I talk to you, I guess.

ELIAS: Very well.

DON: Right now Iím curious. Youíve been talking about physical pop-ins, if I understand it right, that you have been doing. I wonder why if you manifest a physical pop-in and interact physically with somebody whoís also having sessions with you, why you donít just identify yourself and say, ďHi. This is Elias. Nice to see you.Ē

ELIAS: For it is a game.

DON: Okay, well... (Elias laughs) How about incorporating that game, then?

DALE: Don, I could ask the same question of you with Tony Bennett.

DON: Oh, because I didnít know what I was doing!

DALE: Oh, duh! (All laugh)

DON: I didnít have a choice.

ELIAS: Ah, once again!

DALE: Oh, I have a pop-in question! From a very, very ... well, not a very long time ago, considering how old we all are. When I was at the Great Coordination Point Expedition in New York City with the Seth group, there was a gentleman that I kept seeing that was wearing a hat with an arrow through his head. I kept thinking that that was an energy expression of Seth. Was it?

ELIAS: Partial.

DALE: ďPartial,Ē meaning that he didnít create the entire whole body. That person existed, but his energy was...

ELIAS: Yes.

DALE: ...merged, yes. Thatís what I thought! (Elias chuckles) I thought it was quite amusing!

ELIAS: This is not an uncommon action.

DALE: I donít think so, because I see Don driving around in cars and stuff all the time. (Elias chuckles)

DON: Would you confirm that, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes!

DON: Oh! Okay.

DALE: (Laughs) Oh, sure, believe him, not me!

ELIAS: (Laughs) I assure you, he does not believe myself, either! Ha ha ha!

DALE: If I was dead then maybe heíd believe me more!

DON: I just wanted to see what youíd say.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! He does not incorporate a belief in myself; he merely enjoys interacting with myself!

DALE: Hey, Don, you could ask him about your tractor-trailer creation yesterday. (Laughs)

DON: Oh, no. Iíd rather ask about Mr. Ed, your favorite question.

DALE: No, I think itís funny.

DON: Last time you said that Mr. Ed was a translation of some focus of mine somewhere. A horse translation Ė I like that! I wonder if you could say more about that. What does that really mean, to say that this character on a TV show that was a horse is a translation of a focus of mine?

ELIAS: For in your reality, creatures do not speak. In other realities, there are manifestations that you would interpret as a creature Ė not as an entity that bears any similarity to yourself, but also not associated with some type of manifestation that you have identified previously in relation to mythology or to crystalline focuses or to focuses that shift their shapes or that may not necessarily be solidly physically focused Ė but being an actual physical manifestation which would appear to you to be a creature were you to encounter it, that incorporates language and communicates objectively through language to each other, and would incorporate the ability to generate language and objectively understand language with you, were you to offer yourself the opportunity to encounter that focus.

DON: If I understand you correctly, Mr. Ed then is a translation or a representation of a type of creature that is the type that I have a focus of. But you would not say that Mr. Ed himself, that character, is actually a translation of my particular focus?

ELIAS: Yes, it is your imagery of a translation of your focus.

DON: So the tone, then, of Mr. Ed you could say is Allardís tone.

ELIAS: Yes. (Dale laughs)

DON: I still donít get it.

DALE: Thatís amusing, though! So I want to be the Blue Fairy and Alice in Wonderland. (Elias laughs) Can I?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I may express to you that you do incorporate a focus similar. (Laughs)

DALE: Oh, well, thatís close enough. (Both laugh)

DON: Are we out of time, Dale?

DALE: I donít know; ask Elias. I donít pay attention.

DON: Do you pay attention, Elias?

ELIAS: Contrary to what Michael expresses, generally speaking, yes. (Chuckles)

DALE: I trust Elias many times more than I trust myself!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And perhaps you shall incorporate that example and begin to trust yourself in equal measure!

DALE: Iím practicing. (Laughs)

ELIAS: Very well! (Chuckles) I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and you may incorporate all of your skepticisms, if you are so choosing, and that may prove to be quite fun.

DON: Yeah, I think it might be.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! We shall enjoy playfulness together in your disbelief and my expression of it matters not. Ha ha ha! I express to each of you, as dear friends, great affection and encouragement, as always. In anticipation of our next meeting, in great fondness, au revoir.

DALE: Thank you very much, Elias.

DON: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 10:16 AM.


Endnotes:

(1) Daleís note: I had gone to Starbucks for coffee and an individual that I see there quite often, but had never engaged in conversation before, greeted me very warmly. I believe he tidies the outdoor area in exchange for products and perhaps some money. This day he asked me my name and said his was Seville, but I could call him Lawrence. He was raking leaves and I had a strong impression that Lawrence/Vic was enjoying a temporary mergence with him and an objective greeting to me.

(2) Daleís note: While talking on the phone to Mary R. in the bathtub, I kept feeling something nibbling on my butt. I found it a bit spooky, in a fun way, and also was pleased that I was talking to someone who would understand and believe me when I said I thought it was a dead person, Elias or Lawrence/Vic.

(3) Daleís note: I believe we were successful.

(4) Daleís note: At this point a background noise begins. This noise did not occur during the session. Don describes it as a ďloud rasping, scraping soundĒ and ďlike someone giving an ogre a pedicure with a carpenterís file.Ē I agree with both. I also have the impression that this is a playful expression of one of the other essences. Don says now: I figured out what was causing the sound (in my reality). It was Lucy, Deirdreís chihuahua. She periodically stands on her hind legs and rhythmically scritch-scritch-scritches on my leg with her front paws for attention. She was doing that during the first part of the session and Iíd forgotten all about it. Doesnít mean that both explanations arenít correct in their way. It still doesnít make sense to me, in that I never heard it during the session. (Transcriberís note: from the video tape, it appears to be Polly, Maryís dog, making the scraping sounds during the session.)

(5) Daleís note: My impression is that I am a concubine in this focus. Don says now: Yeah, yeah, ďrewarding.Ē Iíve had a thought something like that, too, since Elias made a crack about it, like I may have gone to live with you in a palace or rich manís home, or at least I got taken care of somehow because of you. Not necessarily like you were sold, but I definitely got something out of it other than a motherís pride (got that, too).


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