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Sunday, April 25, 2004

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ďWhat Is the Accurate Story?Ē

Participants: Mary (Michael), Ben (Albert) and Liam (Benny).

(Eliasí arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

BEN: Good afternoon, Elias!


ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?

BEN: Iím not quite sure, but I know I have a focus question I wanted to ask right off the bat.

ELIAS: Very well.

BEN: Both Mylo and Benny here have an impression about me having a focus as this porn star/writer named Aaron Lawrence. (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: So thatís one of my concurrent focuses?


BEN: The interesting thing to me about this is I guess Iím surprised I would have a concurrent focus that seems to be so similar to me and that would be in New Jersey, that would be... I donít know. I guess my impression would be that my focuses would be spread all over the world and be so different from me.

ELIAS: Generally speaking, that is what is manifest in any particular time framework, but as I have expressed previously, it is not a rule. There are some focuses that are within somewhat of a physical proximity of each other, and there are some focuses that actually do encounter each other. Generally speaking, for the most part Ė although this is not a rule, either Ė focuses that do encounter each other or do offer themselves information concerning each other do not display much interest in each other, but as I have stated, that also is not a rule.

BEN: Sometimes I wonder if I would learn anything if I tried to become interactive with this individual. I guess that remains to be whether I choose that or not, right?

ELIAS: Correct, and what information you present to yourself or what your motivation is or what you are seeking.

BEN: I guess one thing thatís interesting is this particular individual, not unlike Bosie, also has written an autobiography. I think itís one of those things that I had already ordered this book and that regardless of what you were going to say about this impression, I was going to investigate this particular individual. I think, in that sense, when you read the story of somebody elseís life, you think that youíre going to have some kind of impression about it.

ELIAS: Generally speaking, you do.

BEN: Even just going to the last focus that we talked about, Lee Harvey Oswald, when Iíve done a little investigating about him, I thought it was interesting, in the idea of the truth wave or whatever, this is kind of an interesting individual to be investigating because heís caught up in this whole myth about what really happened and what was the truth and who was this person and was this person really who they appeared to be and did they really do this. This is kind of interesting, because in some senses I think that if this is a focus of mine, then somehow my impressions about what I think happened are more true than somebody elseís impressions.

ELIAS: Or perhaps more accurate.

BEN: That was the idea, that there was only one story and that if I choose to investigate this thing based on my own impressions, I should trust anything that I feel about what happened as being, in a certain sense, what did happen.

ELIAS: Correct, although remember that the past is not an absolute either.

BEN: That was part of it as well.

ELIAS: Therefore, there may be different versions of what is the accurate story, dependent upon what energy is associated with the experiences and how that past is altered by the present and the recall of it.

BEN: I guess I was just thinking that even at the time framework when it happened, when you have this Warren Commission or people investigating this story, I think they go into it with a certain idea of what they think happened and they find evidence that backs up what they already think is true.

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: To me, as I read this story or as I become more aware of the facts or whatever else, Iím evaluating, thinking, ďOh, thatís misinformation; that didnít really happen; oh, yes, that probably happened; this was probably the motivation,Ē and that sort of thing.

ELIAS: Yes. Incorporating your impressions in genuineness, you may be offering yourself a more accurate scenario of what occurred in that past, in those experiences; although, in some capacity your recall of it shall alter the reality of it somewhat.

BEN: Can you clarify that?

ELIAS: Yes. As it is a focus of you, you do incorporate the ability to tap into those experiences and tap into that time framework and generate a memory, a recall of experiences and events. But each time any individual recalls any event or experience that has been expressed in the past, there is somewhat of an alteration. This occurs continuously; you are all engaging this type of action quite frequently. Any moment in which you generate a memory of any event that you perceive to have occurred pastly, you shall recall it slightly differently than the original experience, and in that recall of the experience, the experience itself changes in some capacity.

This is the manner in which you change the past in the present, and that there are no absolutes. Regardless of how it appears to you, whatever you generate in the present, in the next present as that experience is recalled, the previous present becomes altered, for the energy of the recall changes the original experience. This is the reason that it is not solid and it is not absolute.

BEN: I also felt that even though I might have, as you say, a memory of what happened or an impression of what happened and even though in some sense Iím going to think this is my focus so I know what happened, I think there also must be other versions or other perceptions of the event that would be just as valid.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. It is not to say that any other perception of the experiences and of the events are any less valid, for they are associated with different individualsí perceptions, which are their realities and they are quite real. But as to your own experiences, you may offer yourself what you may term to be an accurate recall of the events and the experiences associated with you as essence and as incorporating your own experiences.

The experiences and the events that other individuals incorporated are their experiences, and they are generated by their perceptions and they are quite real. You may also offer yourself your own story in generating your own recall of the experiences and the events, and you are correct, they are no more valid or no more absolute than any other perception; but they may be more valid to you in association with your own experiences as essence and what you have generated.

BEN: I kind of think that in that sense, there are plenty of people who think Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy. Just because I sit there and say, ďNo, he didnít,Ē and Lee Harvey Oswald himself said, ďNo, I didnít,Ē there are going to be plenty of people who think he did, and in their reality he did.

ELIAS: Correct, but that is not to say that he did in his actual experience.

BEN: Along with this line, I thought I might ask a different kind of question, because in the drama that is my life Iím kind of character-driven. I think that a lot of times I get interested in the focus thing because I like finding out who people are.

Rather than the kind of thing where I have a focus and have an impression, I was wondering if you might give me some recommendations or something. Are there some individuals that you think that I might enjoy investigating who perhaps Iíve never heard of before for whatever reason? You seem to know a lot and know different people. Do you have any recommendations of people I might find interesting to find out who they are?

ELIAS: In association with fame?

BEN: I guess just in association with objective imagery Ė in other words, just because you know me, you know my personality and you know my preferences, you might... Almost like one of my friends would say, ďOh, you might like this book,Ē or ďYou should check out this artist.Ē I do the same kind of thing within the forum, like ďYou should meet this person.Ē I guess I was just thinking regardless of what reason there might be behind it Ė although you could tell me ďthis person has a similar tone to yoursĒ or whatever else Ė I just wondered if you might rattle off a couple of names that I might find interesting finding out who they were. (Pause)

ELIAS: I may offer one that you may incorporate some interest with in association with his experiences. I would offer the son of the individual that is known to you as Edgar Cayce.

BEN: Is he still alive?

ELIAS: Shall you not investigate?

BEN: (Laughs, and Elias chuckles) Okay! I will go find out about him. I think his name is Hugh Lynn Cayce, correct?


BEN: Thank you!

ELIAS: You are welcome.

(Portion omitted by request.)

BEN: Elias, Iíve been having a lot of communication to myself in the past month or so with physical symptoms. Iím still kind of going in the direction of itís getting my attention. I know Iím giving myself a signal, but Iím not always quite sure how to translate it. In some ways I just feel like going down a list of symptoms and trying to figure out what I was trying to say to myself. But really what I want to know is, regardless of what it is, when it happens, what do I do with that?

ELIAS: First of all, recognize that whatever you are physically manifesting is not always associated specifically with a particular momentary event or action. It may be associated with an ongoing expression that you continue to generate, or it may be associated with some issue that you are attempting to offer yourself more clarity with or different restrictions that you are incorporating, and therefore you generate a physical manifestation to emphasize that particular restriction that you are expressing.

BEN: But not necessarily in that moment?

ELIAS: It may be being expressed in that moment in an underlying manner, but not necessarily overtly.

BEN: For example, I think that because I have a history of a digestive situation, I translate that in the sense that I have trouble dealing with things, that I still have issues digesting things. I can go out and buy lots of books, but if I donít actually read them theyíre just kind of clogging up my system, in a way. I think that if I have that kind of thing repeatedly, it just seems like thereís something else that I havenít dealt with yet, that thereís still an ongoing issue. All I can tell is that Iím still not done with that issue, whatever it is.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, for the most part, this would be accurate. You may not be noticing how that is being expressed, for you may not necessarily be paying attention to what you are actually doing that continues to reinforce the manifestation.

BEN: When you say that itís not necessarily going on in the moment, can you give me a time framework? In other words, my heelís not bothering me today, but letís say my heel started to hurt me. Can you say that I should be looking back over the past week or something to see if there was anything that I would associate with that?

ELIAS: You may. But what is more efficient is to attempt to identify what is associated with the manifestation and what is the underlying expression that continues to perpetuate it.

You may allow yourself some evidence to offer yourself information concerning what is underlyingly influencing any particular manifestation in viewing the experiences and what you have incorporated in actions and doing within a time framework surrounding that manifestation, for in any time framework in which you are actually expressing a manifestation, you shall be also incorporating some actions that are an expression of it.

BEN: Letís see if I can try to use an example here. My attention has been on my respiratory system over the past six months. These kinds of symptoms and these kinds of things are in a sense unique to this time framework. I donít remember ever having these kinds of things before. This is not something chronic; this is whatever else. Itís something thatís been changing in imagery and moving around, but it put my attention on this particular system for the past six months or so. I guess I always think that I should be looking at whatís been different in my life for the past six months or so.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and that would be one element. In this, in association with the depression of the respiratory system, what you are offering to yourself in communication concerns constriction, restricting yourself. That would be the underlying, ongoing influence that may be expressed in many different manners in what you do in any given moment, but the underlying influence is that of constriction.

BEN: One of my methods, in a sense, would be to look into my life and see in what other ways am I constricting myself?

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: So this physical symptom is sort of like if itís attacking my respiratory system, then in what other ways am I... Itís almost like I could use my body as a map or something?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

BEN: So if it happens in this particular part of my body, then itís almost like this part of my body corresponds to this aspect of my life.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

Now; we are speaking of you individually.

BEN: Yes, I donít really care about anybody else right now.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And in recognizing that there is a general influence that is being expressed, you may be allowing yourself to evaluate many different areas of your directions, your experiences within your focus that may be associated with constricting yourself.

BEN: I realize that itís not always going to be the same thing, too.

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: That kind of imagery could reflect different things in different times in my life.

ELIAS: Correct. But within this time framework, this is the underlying influence.

BEN: Certainly, itís one of those things that I know, that one of the things that Iím not at ease about in my life is about my job. So I look at my body and say, ďHow is my job affecting my body?Ē Itís how I feel about my job rather than my job itself.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and how you restrict your own creativity or your own freedom.

BEN: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

(Portion omitted by request.)

BEN: Any closing comments?

ELIAS: Merely an encouragement to each of you to genuinely be noticing what you are actually doing and what type of energy you are projecting outwardly. That may be quite significant in the challenges that you are presenting to yourselves.

(Portion omitted by request.)

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well! I shall be offering encouraging energy to both of you, and as always I offer to you my affection. In fondness to you both, au revoir.

BEN & LIAM: Bye.

(Elias departs after 1 hour, 9 minutes.)

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