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Friday, July 02, 2004

<  Session 1584 (Private/Phone)  >

ďĎRole of Parentí Ė Another TruthĒ

ďIncorporating Fun and Not Forcing EnergyĒ

ďBe Aware of What Type of Energy You Are ProjectingĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra).

(Eliasí arrival time is 12 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! How are things in the ether?

ELIAS: (Laughs) As always!

FRANK: I would have expected nothing less!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And yourself?

FRANK: Pretty good, pretty good. Some ups and downs Ė weíll talk about it.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well!

FRANK: Iíll tell you what, I had a bunch of dreams since we last talked, so let me start with those.

First of all, I had a dream where there was a big brown bear in the house, and I was sort of afraid of this bear. Then I picked up a gun and I drove him out of the house, and as I was doing this, I sort of lost my fear as I went through this process of driving this bear out of the house. That was it.

ELIAS: And your impression?

FRANK: Let me, first off, say that I havenít given a lot of thought to any of this; I just sort of wrote it down and went on with my busy life here. (Elias laughs) I think it seems pretty clear itís got something to do with something going on in my life that scared me, that I was afraid to do or thought I couldnít accomplish or whatever, and as I went forward to do it, I realized that I can handle this.

ELIAS: Correct. It is associated with any expression that you view to be larger than yourself or incorporating the potential to be overwhelming, which triggers an automatic response of defensiveness. It is a matter of recognizing the defensiveness, and rather than to continue to express a defense, to allow yourself to recognize your own power.

FRANK: In other words, whenever Iím afraid to do something or about something?

ELIAS: Yes. It is significant information concerning diffusing defensiveness.

FRANK: Any particular reason why that information came to me at this time, or just part of the natural process?

ELIAS: It is an element addressing to automatic responses and offering yourself information to be aware of automatic responses.

FRANK: Thatís a good start.

Next... And actually, I think this one occurred on the same night, interestingly enough. Itís kind of fuzzy, so as best as I can remember is my wife and I were in our bedroom with a dolphin. Somehow, we were sitting there and talking with this dolphin, and the dolphin appeared to be very intelligent. My impression was that this was a very intelligent dolphin that we were in the bedroom talking to. I donít have any clue about this one.

ELIAS: (Laughs) This imagery concerns freedom and allowing your own expression of freedom in changeability and in acknowledging your own expressions, and therefore allowing yourself to express your freedom in association with your preferences. The dolphin is a representation of yourself and expressing freedom of movement.

FRANK: Thatís interesting. (Elias chuckles) And the reason why that particular thing popped up at that time?

ELIAS: For it is associated with allowing yourself your own expressions of freedom and expressing a confidence in that freedom without hesitation. The reason that you present the imagery with your partner and in this particular room is your imagery to yourself concerning intimacy, and allowing yourself to express your freedom and to generate an intimacy in association with your preferences with your partner, not necessarily in association with sexual expressions but expressions of intimacy, allowing yourself to be expressive without hesitation and allowing yourself that type of freedom in association with your partner and your relationship.

FRANK: Next, this happened about two weeks later. This one I remember at the time it was disturbing to me, and I donít know if itís because of the imagery or what the imagery was trying to convey. In this particular dream, I was camping by a river with my daughter. As I recall, there were two tents pitched, and I think one of them was ours. Then all of a sudden, a guy with glasses came up to me Ė it might have been several men Ė and said that they were going to take my daughter away but it would go easier on her if I told them something they wanted to know or gave them something that they wanted. Thatís as much of it as I remember. When I woke up, I just found the whole thing very disturbing.

ELIAS: This imagery concerns protection and one of your truths associated with your responsibility to this individual or to any of your children as their parent, and in that responsibility, what you expect of yourself to be protective of your children Ė which is significant information, for it is allowing you to examine one of your truths concerning your role as a parent.

FRANK: By ďtruthsĒ you mean what I believe?

ELIAS: Correct, what you have generated as a belief into an absolute Ė and therefore it is unquestioned Ė the expectation that you express with yourself concerning your role and what you perceive to be expected of you from the other individuals.

FRANK: I hear what youíre saying there, and Iím not sure... Well, we can maybe talk about that some more later. The reason it was so disturbing, was it just the imagery that my objective self remembered and thatís the part that was disturbing Ė in other words, the idea that something like this actually could happen? Or was it the information that was communicated subjectively that was disturbing?

ELIAS: Both.

FRANK: Interesting. If the purpose of this is to convey this information about what you believe...

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: ...why did I find that disturbing Ė just that I didnít recognize that as a belief?

ELIAS: I may express to you that many beliefs or truths that you incorporate and you notice may be disturbing to you, for you may not necessarily agree with what you are presenting yourself with. Many of your automatic responses to beliefs may be disturbing to you, for they may be contrary to what you think is good or bad. An automatic response may be expressed, but in the recognition of that automatic response you may also incorporate a judgment of yourself or of the situation, for it may not necessarily be associated with your preferences and that would be disturbing.

FRANK: So in this particular case, what was it that bothered me so much about it?

ELIAS: The absoluteness of what is right and what is wrong behavior.

FRANK: In other words, I was disturbed that I realized that I have this belief that I have to be protective?

ELIAS: Partially, but also partially you incorporated this disturbance in merely viewing a scenario which triggers such a strong automatic response which is influenced by one of your truths, that behaviors of other individuals should absolutely not be expressed in this manner and that it is bad.

FRANK: What was the first part of what you just said?

ELIAS: It has been disturbing for it is an exposure of one of your truths and your automatic response that is influenced by this truth concerning behaviors, that other individuals should absolutely not generate behaviors such as this. That also triggers other automatic responses of limiting your choices and generating the automatic response of being a victim.

FRANK: Okay, now I get it. Thatís pretty interesting.

ELIAS: Some of your truths may be disturbing to examine. But this is the point of remembering that regardless of what truth you identify and you begin to evaluate, they all incorporate many influences. Therein lies your freedom to choose which influences are more aligned with your preferences, rather than slipping into the automatic responses which tremendously limit you and at times generate being a victim.

FRANK: We may come back to that later.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: The last one I have here happened about a week ago. In this one, I was at a party playing cards with one of my relatives and two friends who are business associates. We were getting along very well until one of them said something or did something that somehow hurt my feelings or something like that. Then, at that point in this dream, I was upset and felt very betrayed. Even after I woke up, at least for a short period, I had to kind of remind myself or come to the realization that that was a dream and it didnít really happen.

ELIAS: And your impression?

FRANK: I would think that somehow maybe I feel like I betrayed myself; I did or didnít do something that I shouldnít or should have done.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, but not precisely.

This is imagery that you have presented to yourself as an example of how you reflect to yourself through other individuals, which is significant. For in this dream imagery, you have chosen to incorporate a realistic scenario, incorporating an interaction in which you generate certain emotional communications. But it is an example to you of how to be paying attention, noticing and recognizing that whatever you are reflecting to yourself has initially been generated by yourself.

Therefore, it is not a matter of the other individual expressing in a manner that is necessarily hurtful to you, but paying attention to what you are generating inwardly, once again, that is being defensive, and therefore you generate that emotional communication to yourself, for you create all of these scenarios.

This dream imagery is a presentment to yourself as an example of your creation and once again, of automatic responses of blame, not immediately recognizing that you are creating this scenario and that what is occurring is reflecting some element of you.

FRANK: Right, and thatís always the case with everything that happens.

ELIAS: Correct. At times, my friend, it is useful to be examining these types of dreams, for it offers you a type of outside projection of yourself, similar to what you would view in a motion picture, allowing you to neutrally view different scenarios that are not actually occurring with other individuals, and therefore allows you to evaluate what is actually happening and what you are actually doing. Therefore, in objective scenarios in which you ARE interactive with other individuals, you may be more clear as to your automatic responses and incorporate more clarity as to what YOU are actually doing and whether you are expressing defensiveness or not.

FRANK: When you say itís good to examine dreams, you mean me, not me and you together?

ELIAS: You Ė although it is efficient for you to be examining them in interaction with myself also, for that is a manner in which you allow yourself to examine your dream imagery, and you are creating that also. (Laughs)

FRANK: True, true. Life is moving so fast for me. I think, aside from the obvious value of being able to communicate with you, what these sessions do for me is they enable me to set aside at least an hour every couple of months to reflect on things.

ELIAS: I am aware. (Chuckles)

FRANK: It seems like about the only hour I get every couple of months! (Elias laughs) But I understand I create that, too.

Now, Iíll move on to the events that occurred. There was one I forgot to ask you about the last time we talked, and I just thought Iíd ask you about it quickly now. You may recall back several months ago we talked about the fact that we had a squirrel that had gotten in our house here and the reasons for all of that. Well, subsequent to that, we had another one get in the house, and this guy was a bit more destructive. He chewed up a window and chewed up part of a wall. It took a week to catch him, and finally we did. Iím just wondering what comments, if any, you have on that second episode of an animal in the house.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what is your impression as to what you have presented yourself with?

FRANK: Well, I donít know. I guess my first automatic response is to say this is like the first time, so maybe the reasons are similar. As I recall, the reason for that was to generate a bit of excitement and to give me the ability to practice not overreacting to situations, and it certainly did both of those the second time.

ELIAS: It is also a presentment to you in imagery of elements in your environment and surrounding you that you view as nuisances and irritants and timewasters, distractions that are a nuisance and that you deem to be wasting time. (Chuckles) And you do pay attention to the creature!

FRANK: In other words, youíre saying I wasnít paying attention to these nuisances and so I had to make the imagery more...

ELIAS: ...dramatic. Ha ha! Which is not quite unusual with you, is it?

FRANK: Oh, no, no. Not at all! (Elias laughs) Let me ask you this question. Letís take my wife Ė what was her reason for this creation?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) A distraction.

FRANK: Oh, same thing! I think my kids found it amusing.

ELIAS: I am aware. (Chuckles)

FRANK: Thatís pretty interesting. Well, letís move on from that.

I wanted to talk to you again about baseball, which we talked about last time. For some reason I just havenít been... Well, itís kind of strange. When I pitch, my arm just hasnít felt good, and I havenít felt like Iíve been able to do as well as Iím accustomed to doing. Itís pretty interesting, because itís sort of like an injury but itís really not an injury. I donít know quite how to explain that. Iím not really injured, but it feels like I am. So Iím very curious about this and what I have created and why.

ELIAS: I am understanding. You are correct, you have not created an actual injury. But you have created a fatigue, and that creates a type of restriction. That is associated with forcing your energy. We have spoken many times concerning this game, allowing yourself to incorporate the game in fun and to be more focused in the playing of the game and the process of the game than the outcome. But although you are expressing more in that direction, you continue to be forcing your energy. You force your energy in other areas also, but this is the area in which you generate imagery concerning that action.

FRANK: In other words, Iím worrying too much about how well I do as opposed to just going on and having fun doing it.

ELIAS: Correct, and therefore you force your energy and you push, and as you push, you also fatigue yourself, which is a natural action that you are incorporating. For you do hold information; therefore, as you move against the information that you incorporate, you once again generate automatic responses to yourself. In that, as you push and force your energy, your physical body consciousness pushes against that push, and the manner in which it pushes is to function less efficiently, for you are not generating an allowance for its natural expression of its abilities. Therefore, what you are actually generating is a constriction.

FRANK: That all makes sense. And the reason for this is that I feel like I have to live up to other peopleís expectations, I suppose?

ELIAS: Yes, and your own, for you generate your own expectations of yourself and your performance, and that is associated with your beliefs concerning age.

FRANK: (Laughs) Which is what Ė that I believe that at my age I canít be doing this stuff?

ELIAS: You incorporate beliefs concerning age, that as you age you do not necessarily express the ability to accomplish certain actions in the manner that you would at a younger age. That triggers an automatic competition, in which you are not necessarily actually competing with another individual but the idea of another individual or the idea of a younger you, and pushing your energy to express proof that you incorporate the same ability as you did in younger years. (Chuckles)

FRANK: I actually think Iím better now in some ways!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Therefore, acknowledge that and allow yourself to freely express your movement and not attempt to be competing with the ideal you!

FRANK: I suppose thatís the reason why Ė this was about two weeks ago Ė I thought I was doing well, but the team was doing badly behind me. It was probably the first time I could think of in years that I actually kind of got angry in the middle of playing because things werenít going well.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Very unusual for me. I think it is, at least.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Which is the point of remembering to be incorporating fun and not forcing, and appreciating the process and the game rather than focusing upon the possible outcome.

FRANK: Boy, itís so easy to say and hard to do!

ELIAS: I am aware!

FRANK: Iíll see if I can do that, if thatíll work.

ELIAS: Very well. Practice! You are familiar with practice, especially in association with the game. Now practice the manner in which you play the game also Ė which shall also be an indicator to you of whether you are allowing yourself flexibility or not, which reflects in other directions that you move within.

FRANK: Weíll probably talk about some of those in a bit. Let me ask you about two other things relating to baseball. At a game a couple of weeks ago, at the very end of the game something happened that I didnít think should generate anger on the part of this guy on the other team. He got mad at me and kind of shoved me in the back at the end of the game, and one of my teammates got angry about it. Iíve been thinking about that imagery, and I donít really understand what that was all about.

ELIAS: Now; let me express to you, do you incorporate a recall of the analogy that I offered to the group of individuals in the time framework of several months prior to this, the analogy of the pools and the fish?

FRANK: I donít recall that.

ELIAS: I offered an analogy of visualizing yourself, or yourselves, as a pool. In that, I was discussing projections of energy and being aware of what type of energy you are projecting, and noticing energy that you may be projecting in a particular time framework in which you may not necessarily intend to be projecting that type of energy. Therefore, your thoughts, in a manner of speaking, deceive you, for you are objectively unaware of the type of energy that you are projecting. In visualizing yourself as a pool, visualize your energy as many different fish within that pool.

Now; as you encounter another pool, figuratively speaking, you project fish from your pool to the other individualís pool. At times, you may be projecting one of those fish that was not intended but nevertheless it was expressed. It may be a fish that is agitated in relation to an entirely different scenario or another experience that you have incorporated, or it may be associated with some assessment that you are underlyingly addressing to concerning yourself and your performance or your behavior or your choices. In the moment, you may be objectively unaware that this fish has moved with other fish that you did intend to express; what you are paying attention to is the projection that you did intend.

But individuals receive energy and translate energy more accurately than any other type of communication. Therefore, regardless of whether you are aware of what type of energy you are projecting or not, you immediately reflect it to yourself in the interactions with other individuals or even scenarios, not necessarily an individual.

FRANK: In this example, then, what was it that I projected that I wasnít aware of that got this guy so angry?

ELIAS: Remember, the other individual is responding to your projection, and also they are expressing their own energy; therefore, the projection of your energy may merely be a trigger. Are you understanding?


ELIAS: Now; in this, what you have projected is somewhat of a frustration with your own actions Ė not necessarily in association with the game or in that particular moment, but frustrations that you have incorporated in association with your work and with other individuals.

Now; that becomes an underlying expression of frustration, for in that moment, you are not necessarily paying attention to that, but nevertheless, it is an expression that is ongoing. Therefore, although it is underlying, there is a potential for that type of energy to be expressed unintended.

This is the reason that it is significantly important to be aware of what type of energy you are projecting, especially within this time framework now. For within this time framework now and within this wave of truths, there is tremendous polarization occurring in energy and in expressions. Extremes are being generated quite easily, and energy can be configured in strength immediately. Therefore, there is tremendous potential to be generating extremes in any moment dependent upon what type of energy you are expressing outwardly. This was an example to you of how easily extremes may be created, even when they are not intended.

FRANK: Wow. Thatís really interesting. Let me just write that down, and then I want to ask one last question about it. Maybe I shouldnít care about the other individual, but this process intrigues me. So I project frustration, which he observes or catches that energy. Why did my frustration trigger anger in him? Did it make him aware of some of his own frustrations or something?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, and his feeling, so to speak, of a lack of control and a lack of choices.

FRANK: About all sorts of things?

ELIAS: Yes. Therefore, your projection of the underlying frustration, which was not strong Ė do not misunderstand; this is the reason that you did not notice Ė but regardless, this is an example to you of how easily extremes may be triggered and expressed in any projection of energy that may trigger a similarity in another individual. This is occurring in significant strength in association with this wave addressing to truths.

FRANK: Itís amazing how much is there.

ELIAS: This is a powerful wave, my friend, and it is expressed experientially, not intellectually.

FRANK: What I really meant was itís amazing how much is there in a simple shove in the back! (Elias chuckles) Interestingly, to me it was not a big deal Ė I really didnít even care about it Ė but one of my teammates went crazy over it and got very upset. Was he picking up the frustration?

ELIAS: Correct Ė a type of domino effect, in your terms Ė which is also an example of extremes and how easily they are triggered.

FRANK: A last thing about baseball, and then I want to talk about business for a little bit. The first game I played this year, I sort of broke and dislocated one of my fingers. In retrospect, I think I did it just because I wanted to get a month off. Does that pretty much sum it up?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Yes, and to slow your movement, for you have been struggling with too much movement, in your assessment.

FRANK: I will say, I think to my credit, that earlier this week instead of doing something like that, I just called up the manager and said Iím not coming today.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And I am acknowledging of your allowance of your own empowerment and offering yourself permission to be honoring your preferences!

FRANK: I thought to myself, this is a lot better than breaking a finger! (Elias laughs) Let me move on to business here, because we donít have a whole lot of time left.

Earlier this year Ė I think we talked about this Ė I lost a very large client, and right after that I got in two or three other clients that more than made up for what I lost. In the meantime, whatís happened is that itís been very difficult for us to actually get this business going. One of the clients initially committed to give us all this business, and then, for all sorts of reasons, the thing has not disappeared but itís turned out to be something much less than what was originally offered to us. Iím curious to know what that imagery is about.

ELIAS: And do you incorporate an impression?

FRANK: I donít know. It could be that same old thing about not making too much money too soon.

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is more concerning the work. You want the business; you want the clients; you want the money; you do not want the work.

FRANK: That sounds reasonable to me!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Therefore, you continue to generate business, but you also generate some reluctance and obstacles to create less work. Within this time framework, that is quite understandable in association with your energy. For in viewing your energy, you appear to be incorporating tremendous movement and viewing yourself to not incorporate enough time to be generating all the movement that you are.

FRANK: Thatís for sure. That answer is interesting, because it wouldnít necessarily be more work for me Ė at least, I donít objectively view it that way. I see my job as generating work for other people.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But it is not necessarily that black and white, my friend. It is the IDEA of work, not the actual work. It is the idea that the more you generate, the more work is required, which that idea is a belief.

FRANK: This goes back to the bear and the gun.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So Iíve got to get this bear out of the house!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) But not in a manner of protection, in a manner of realizing and appreciating your own power and your own abilities. Ha ha ha! That is the point.

FRANK: First of all, one belief I like is that you shouldnít have to work hard to do well financially. (Elias laughs) Thatís one Iíd like to express or continue to express.

ELIAS: Very well. And in that, the manner in which you accomplish that is to be acknowledging your abilities and acknowledging your preferences, and that your preference is to play and not to work. (Laughs)

FRANK: Right, exactly!

ELIAS: Remember that in your baseball game also, that your preference is to play and not to work. (Laughs)

FRANK: You know, a lot of people canít understand that!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! It matters not Ė you understand!

FRANK: I know! (Elias laughs)

Let me ask you about another one of these big chunks of business that I was able to bring in earlier this year. It just turned out to be very, very difficult and is consuming all sorts of time within our company and has been a strain on everybody, including myself. Weíre just having trouble getting it going and working with this client. I guess Iíd like to know what your view is on that.

ELIAS: That would be the same, viewing it as work and not being playful, not allowing yourself to incorporate your communication of imagination and being playful but viewing this to be work and not acknowledging your preferences. This is another example of PUSHING energy and creating difficulty rather than ease.

FRANK: I know thereís some kind of absolute here that Iím running up against, because when you said that, the first thing that ran through my mind is I canít imagine how I could be playful and imaginative with it! (Elias chuckles) So thatís the sign of a pretty deep-set truth, I suppose.

ELIAS: Correct, concerning work and seriousness, interaction with other individuals, and responsibility and professionalism.

FRANK: Yeah, weíve talked about that before. (Elias chuckles) Other than what youíve already said, do you have any other advice about how I can deal with this?

ELIAS: My suggestion is that you notice your rigidity in conventionalism and allow yourself to be unconventional, which may require listening to your imagination. (Chuckles) Create another game.

FRANK: Letís explore this a little more. What youíre suggesting is that I use my imagination to imagine ways that this whole thing can work easier. Is that what youíre saying?

ELIAS: To create a game with it, and therefore to allow you to relax your energy, which shall create more of an ease. In this time framework you are generating a rigidness, and you are not being playful and you are pushing energy. In pushing energy, you do not create an ease, and you reflect that pushing of energy in generating resistance.

Whereas, if you allow yourself to incorporate your imagination and create a game, that interrupts this projection of energy that has become a circle with you. It is a matter of interrupting that circle.

FRANK: In actual practice, letís say that this was yesterday when I was sort of in a point of contention with the clients over all this. Youíre saying at some point an effective measure would have been to just kind of sit back and imagine a different outcome or a different process?

ELIAS: Not necessarily a different outcome or a different process. Merely allow your imagination to be expressed inwardly. That may be expressed in many different manners, and it may initially appear to you to not be associated with what is occurring in the moment. But this is the wondrousness of this particular avenue of communication, for it does interrupt different circles. It does interrupt the type of energy that you are projecting.

You may be interacting with the other individual and you may be allowing your imagination its expressions, and perhaps you may offer yourself an inner imagery of a walrus Ė which, in the moment, your automatic response would be to dismiss that imagery and to push yourself back into projecting your attention to the other individual and paying attention to what the other individual is doing. But in the moment that you present this bizarre imagery to yourself of the walrus, it interrupts your concentration and perhaps offers you in that interruption a slight enough distraction to lighten your energy and perhaps even invoke an element of humor, which changes the energy that you are projecting. Regardless of whether you express verbally or not, your energy instantly changes for your focus of concentration has changed.

Now; in that moment, that is all you require to alter your expression of energy, to change your attention, and to inspire you to incorporate more of a playfulness and less seriousness and less concentration upon the other individual and more allowance of yourself. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes, yes, absolutely. Iím not sure how well I can do it (both laugh) but yes, I understand exactly. Hopefully Iíll remember and be able to incorporate that.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I shall be offering you energy in encouragement also, and perhaps even a few of my own projections in association with your imaginative communication! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: I would welcome that, and Iíll try to be noticing. I wish you would pop up every now and then.

ELIAS: The incorporation of silliness at times... [Recording ends]

(Recorded session ends after 1 hour, 3 minutes.)

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