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Friday, September 03, 2004

<  Session 1616 (Private/Phone)  >

ďInterpreting Some Physical ManifestationsĒ

ďIt Is Not Necessary to Agree to CooperateĒ

ďGenerating Money NaturallyĒ


Participants: Mary (Michael), Anne (Monique), and Patrick (Erik).

(Eliasí arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANNE: Good afternoon! How are you?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! As always. And yourself?

ANNE: Oh, very good! Iím very happy today. I finally sold the business.

ELIAS: Ah, congratulations!

ANNE: Thank you very much. Iíve completed the sale. It was such a joy. (Elias chuckles) I donít want to move in that direction again. It was too frustrating for me.

ELIAS: And now you are experiencing your freedom!

ANNE: Yes. Oh, what a relief, I canít tell you. Anyway, that was the big event of the day. It was very nice.

ELIAS: Very well!

ANNE: Yes. So, shall we just start, then?

ELIAS: Very well.

ANNE: Basically weíll start off with a few questions that I have about some intermediates that I think I have identified. I would like to have confirmation.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANNE: An ex-boyfriend of mine named Robert, is he intermediate?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: A friend of ours named Chris; he was the best man for Patrick.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: And Grant C., a very good friend of mine.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Theyíre all intermediates? (Elias chuckles) Itís like Iím in a gang! (Both laugh) Anyway, common people Ė Liam, as in Liam P.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: And Samantha, a friend of mine, is she also common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: And a friend of Patrickís, a coworker named Daniel, is he soft?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Wow, this is wonderful. Last question about this orientation stuff... Oh, a couple more: when I was growing up in my family in El Paso, the vast majority were common, correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANNE: Is there only one other intermediate, by the name of David?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: The rest are common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: And finally Einstein, was he intermediate?

ELIAS: No.

ANNE: Oh, was he common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Okay, last one, then Ė oh, whatís his name? Ė Morton H., is he intermediate?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Thank you so much for that; Iím getting good at it. For quite a long time I didnít know who the intermediates were, and I felt all alone. (Both laugh) Thatís very nice. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANNE: Now, a couple of other things. In the vast majority of my focuses, am I common?

ELIAS: Most of your focuses, yes.

ANNE: The second most common would be intermediate, that I would be.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: And then there would be soft, very few.

ELIAS: Yes, correct.

ANNE: I donít feel a lot of bonds with soft people, and I actually understand the common person a little bit more than I do the soft person, and I figured that was the reason.

These are little fun questions for me. Did Patrick have a vampire focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Do he and I know each other, me being the werewolf and him the vampire?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Thatís why he loves vampires so much. (Elias laughs) My werewolf focus, about a week ago or so it was quite strong; she came through. Itís a she, isnít it?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: She came through quite strongly, and I saw her dreaming of me. Can you confirm that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: She actually has a problem with herself that she doesnít like being a werewolf.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANNE: This is where she and I make a connection. Sheís desperate to be me, or to be purely human, and I, on the other hand, think sheís so amazing because sheís powerful. I canít see my own powers within myself just as she canít see her own power.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANNE: And this is where weíre connecting.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: I keep saying to her, you know what, you are so amazing you canít imagine, and she keeps telling me the same thing. (Elias laughs) Itís really cool. Is it really the case Ė because I had a dream about her Ė that she goes out to the city limits and thatís when she turns into being the werewolf? There are humans there as well, but they get eaten. Or was that just symbols?

ELIAS: It is a translation, but yes, it is correct.

ANNE: Thatís excellent. Thank you so much. I have a couple of interesting physical communications that I havenít quite pinpointed yet and are something you might be able to help me out with. The first is my throat. Sometimes when Iím in a conflicting situation, my throat begins to really tighten and I feel a prickly sensation. I wouldnít say my throat; itís my neck. Where, why and how and what and everything?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) This is an energy of tension that you are holding within that energy center, and that is being expressed in association with your doubt of your ability to accurately communicate and articulate yourself in a manner which you expect. You incorporate an expectation of yourself, and you also incorporate doubt that you may measure to that expectation.

ANNE: I see. Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I may express to you, as you notice that occurring, if you allow yourself to relax and allow yourself to actually reinforce your trust of yourself in a gentleness with yourself, you shall successfully lessen that tension and therefore alleviate the irritation.

ANNE: So it is triggered by a couple of things Ė not measuring up to my expectations regarding communications and communicating myself, and then also doubt.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Thank you very much for that.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

ANNE: The second one is my knee or knees, sometimes, and the only common denominator Iíve come to see is that usually itís in a situation of me judging whether someone is right or wrong or correct or incorrect. (Elias chuckles) This is a very general thing, but is that the thing that sets my knees off?

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; what do you assess, in this now, is your symbology to yourself in that affectingness in that particular area of your physical body? What is your assessment?

ANNE: Itís flexibility, which is what I was initially thinking.

ELIAS: Partially flexibility and also partially supportiveness, for your knees support you. If you are expressing judgment and comparisons, you are not being supportive of yourself or other individuals.

ANNE: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

ANNE: On my back is this spot that comes out, and it (inaudible) a month at a time. Patrick (inaudible) and he squeezes it out, and keeps squeezing, and all this gunk is always coming out all the time, in the same spot over and over and over again. Itís always been like this for as long as Iíve known Patrick. What does that symbolize?

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

ANNE: Well, now that Iím talking about it, itís kind of like a repetitiousness, basically. Thereís always production or there is always something happening, or something along those lines.

ELIAS: And also always an attempt to be eliminating.

ANNE: Ah! Clever! I am so clever. (Both laugh) Thatís pretty cool. So if I stopped trying to eliminate beliefs, or whatever it is, that thing would actually stop.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Thatís pretty cool. (Elias chuckles) Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

ANNE: Now, once in a while, particularly recently, for the past month or maybe two months, Iíve been having this extraordinarily strong wave washing over me. Itís like perception changes for those moments quite dramatically, where suddenly I feel like Iím the only one in this world. Itís kind of freaky, and I donít quite know what I want to ask about this. But what is this wave; what is it? I know it changes perception, but is that the reality?

ELIAS: I may express to you, what you are generating is a movement into a wider awareness, which is actually quite purposeful. It may appear somewhat strange to you initially, but what you are moving into is purposeful in what you may term to be aiding yourself within this wave addressing to truths, for in generating this type of perception that you are the only individual within your world, what that allows you to do is to recognize that every expression, every individual, every situation that is manifest within your world is being generated by you. Therefore, whatever is occurring and whatever you perceive as differences that may be disturbing to you or may be distasteful to you, this allows you the opportunity to recognize that these are all elements of your reality that you are actually creating.

Now; this is a temporary movement that you are generating to be helpful to yourself in being more accepting of differences, allowing yourself to move more into an expression of acceptance and not generating such strong judgments in association with different expressions or manifestations or situations that you are not necessarily in agreement with, allowing you to recognize that it is not necessary to be in agreement to cooperate, and agreement is not a prerequisite to acceptance.

In that, it also allows you the opportunity to become more familiar with your preferences or what are not your preferences, and to recognize that these also are associated with beliefs, and that the preferences or the nonpreferences are not good or bad in themselves, either. They are your guidelines for yourself, for how you express yourself and how you generate behavior. They are also guidelines concerning what you like and what you do not like, recognizing also that preferences change. They are not absolute either, just as your truths are not absolute.

In this, as you continue to experience in this manner and you begin to widen your awareness more, that shall be helpful to you in this movement in generating those expressions of acceptance with yourself, with situations and with other individuals. I am aware that many times this is a significant challenge with you, and you are offering yourself a movement and a type of method to be helpful to yourself. For if you are generating all of your reality, if no one else exists within your reality but you, you may allow yourself more of an expression of gentleness and not such harshness. You begin to recognize what I have been expressing for an ongoing time framework, that as you express judgment of other individuals, you are also expressing a judgment of yourself.

Now you are allowing yourself to experience that, which is significant. For as I have expressed previously, this wave is being expressed in experience. Your truths are being experienced, and that is how they are being exposed to you. Also, without experience you may incorporate volumes of information, but that information remains concept. Experience of the concept generates it into reality, and that is what you are doing.

ANNE: Thatís what it feels like, because Iíve noticed my level of judgment has lessened quite a lot, actually...

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: ...as a result, and it feels much more relaxing and easier to be living, to be honest.

ELIAS: And much more liberating, for it allows you a much a greater freedom of movement, much less confinement within yourself.

ANNE: Yes. Thank you for explaining that.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

ANNE: I had a conflict, and perhaps continue to have conflict, with a friend of mine named Glynne. We perceive things so completely differently that itís creating quite a lot of conflict in the relationship and in other areas as well. I guess this is part of this movement, is it?

ELIAS: Yes, to be recognizing differences and not to be incorporating a threat in association with the differences.

And remember, it is not necessary to agree to cooperate. It is not necessary to agree to express acceptance. In this, as you genuinely begin to view yourself and your direction, your expressions, your truths, recognize that these may be your truths, but they are not true. They are relative, and in that relativity, they may not necessarily be relative to another individual. In that, their expressions are no less valid than yours, and yours are no less valid than theirs. Therefore, it is unnecessary to generate competition or expectation in debate with another individual or to be attempting to instruct the other individual to attempt to change any of their expressions, for their expressions are valid and yours are also. This is the point of discovering the balance and allowing yourself to generate cooperation in difference.

ANNE: That one is quite a bit of a challenge for me, and it has brought up other questions in my mind about this idea of co-creating. Of course, we donít co-create, itís the individual creating but...

ELIAS: Correct.

ANNE: ...itís kind of difficult in my mind to see that. For instance, if thereís one book and Iím working on one aspect of the book and the other person is working on a different aspect, and we both want the same thing but weíre coming at it from a completely different angle, then we start debating about the expectations of the other person, and it gets really hairy.

ELIAS: That is significant to be paying attention to. Let me offer you an example. Let us say that you and this individual are within the same room, and you each incorporate a pot with a plant. Both of the plants are the same. Both of the plants are fruit-bearing.

Now; with your plant, you choose to be snipping all of its blossoms as it generates them, to yield the fruit. The other individual chooses to allow the blossoms to yield the fruit. You incorporate two different methods and each of you incorporates experience that your individual method produces the desired effect.

Now; as you have incorporated those experiences that you generate success in your method, that becomes an absolute. Therefore, as you view the other individual and how they are tending to their plant, your automatic response is to express to the other individual your method and to instruct, expecting the other individual to receive that instruction and alter their method. But in actuality, both methods yield the same.

Therefore, one method is not generating more success than the other method; they yield the same. Therefore, it matters not if one individual incorporates one method and another individual incorporates a different method, for they may cooperate and both tend to their individual plants in their own methods and yield success.

ANNE: But what if both of you have responsibility for the same plant? (Laughs)

ELIAS: If you both incorporate the responsibility for the same plant, what would you view as a cooperation in the difference? How would you generate...

ANNE: Weíd split up the tasks and have one do one thing and one do another thing.

ELIAS: That is one choice. You may also cooperate, and perhaps at times you shall snip the blossoms and at times you shall allow the blossoms to remain.

ANNE: So flexibility is part of it.

ELIAS: Correct. Recognizing that regardless of whether the allowance of the blossom is not your preference, you have allowed yourself to recognize and understand that it matters not; you shall yield no less. Therefore, although it may initially trigger some type of irritation within you for you continue to hold to the absoluteness of your method and your preference, you allow yourself to view that another individualís method is not necessarily wrong and that it may yield the same. Therefore, it is unnecessary to compete. It is unnecessary to instruct, and it is unnecessary to absolutely insist upon one direction.

ANNE: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Let me express to you, the greatest affectingness of difference is threat, and this is what motivates the automatic responses. For there is an underlying belief that there is somehow one right direction, one right reality, one right method, one right truth. As you do not necessarily know what that one right truth or direction or method is, if you are expressing your truth and another individual expresses a different truth, which influences different methods and different expressions, that automatically generates a threat, for it generates an underlying doubt: perhaps my truth is not true, perhaps the other individualís truth is true, and this is threatening for this is my truth and it is important, and if it is not true and if it is not the right truth, the automatic response is the doubt and the fear that it is the wrong truth.

In this, if you allow yourself to remember that all of these truths are not true, they are your truth but they are not actually absolute, and in this, they are your guidelines for what you prefer and what allows you to generate more of an ease in your movement, that may not necessarily be more of an ease for another individual. Once you are comfortable with your own beliefs, with your own choices, and once you are allowing yourself to genuinely trust yourself, it becomes unnecessary to be generating competition with other individuals, and you eliminate that threat.

ANNE: Thank you very much for that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANNE: Iím sure this is something Iím going to be visiting regularly for the next few months.

ELIAS: (Laughs) It is your opportunity to practice.

Let me also express to you that in these opportunities that you present to yourself to practice, I am aware that many times you Ė and many other individuals Ė intellectually may understand that. But in actual experiences, your idea that you incorporate is more in line with being irritated and expressing to yourself, ďAh yes, Ďpractice,í my least favorite game!Ē That sets into motion a resistant energy, which hinders you.

Now; also, if you allow yourself to remind yourself to attempt to view some element in the situation that you can appreciate, that shall generate more of an ease. Regardless of what it is that you appreciate, it matters not how significant or insignificant you perceive the appreciation to be, but in allowing yourself to express ANY type of appreciation, you also alter your energy, which allows you to generate more of an ease in altering your perception. That generates more of an allowing energy, rather than a restricting energy.

ANNE: Okay, Iíll bear that in mind. (Elias chuckles) Thereís a task ahead of me!

ELIAS: You may not necessarily incorporate the ability in a particular moment in which you are feeling frustration or irritation to generate an appreciation of any manifestation more than an article of clothing. But regardless, it matters not, for the expression of any type of appreciation shall alter your energy.

ANNE: Itís like little tricks of the trade! (Elias laughs) Thatís really cool. Thanks for that.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

ANNE: Talk a little bit about money, because itís an interesting subject that Iím not terribly interested in, to be honest. (Both laugh) It seems to be very interesting for everyone else, but the thing is, Iím not really attached to it. Iíve never been particularly interested in it. It has always been around as I required, and now Iíve just come into quite a lot with the sale of the business, a lot more than Iíve ever had. I always think of it as kind of an illusional thing, anyway; I donít really take it that seriously.

But on the other hand, thereís part of me that sort of starts panicking sometimes when I donít actually have any. Thatís the only time I actually do think about it, and Iíd like to shift that a little bit. Iíd like to know from you, because Iíve never really given it that much thought, I donít think, in comparison with other things that I do give thought to. Why is it the way that it is with money? Why am I the way that I am with money? Is that too broad a question?

ELIAS: What precisely are you seeking?

ANNE: Thereís an idea that I have in my head that it would be actually quite nice to have a big fat bank account thatís nice and healthy and never ever disappears. (Laughs) But on the other hand, thereís a misconnection somewhere between money and work and things.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, first of all, if you are generating your natural expression and movement, you incorporate generating money.

ANNE: So itís like an automatic thing. I shouldnít have to think about it too much.

ELIAS: Correct. If you are generating your natural movement and not concerning yourself with it, you do generate it. What occurs in times in which you are not generating it is that you alter the type of energy you are expressing outwardly. You DO differently. You begin to incorporate tension and concern. Therefore, your concentration moves, and you begin to generate a lack or what you perceive to be a lack, which is not necessarily actually a lack, but you incorporate that fear, and you begin to doubt your ability. That alters the energy that you are expressing outwardly.

This is an interesting example, and one that I may express to you is expressed quite similarly with Michael. You each incorporate a strong similarity in association with this particular subject, in which if you are generating your natural movement and you are generating your natural expressions and perception, you incorporate sufficient quantities of money, for you generate that and you trust that. Therefore, you do not incorporate tremendous attention concerning this subject, for you are allowing yourself your automatic trust of your ability to generate.

Now; in other time frameworks, you may generate some action in which you may be incorporating expenses that you are generating and you perceive that to be depleting of your supply of money. Once you perceive that you are depleting your supply, you begin to move into a doubt of your ability to continue generating. What occurs is you move your attention, and you begin to concentrate upon not generating enough, not producing enough. The more you express that type of energy, the more you create that as a reality.

There is a very simple solution to that type of action, which I may also express to you may be applied in many different situations. This is an easy example for you to view how energy changes and how that changes your reality, for it changes your perception. Therefore, you actually physically generate a different reality.

Now; in recognizing what you are doing in the moment in concentrating upon the inability to generate, and recognizing your concentration upon lack or not enough, you may stop and recognize THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I have been expressing to many individuals in recent time framework to be paying attention to what you are doing and what type of energy you are expressing outwardly, for that IS what you are doing. At times, I may express to you also that what you are not doing is also an action, and therefore, it also is what you are doing.

In this scenario, if you are concentrating upon lack and therefore you are not allowing yourself the freedom to spend money, you are doing. It appears to you that you are not doing, for you are not spending, but that is an action also. What is significant is that you allow yourself to recognize that that is not your natural expression. Your natural expression is to not concern yourself with this subject. Therefore, you allow yourself the freedom to incorporate generating money and allowing yourself to be playful with it.

ANNE: For a very long time, shall we say, my husband has been supporting me in a way, and I want to move out of that now and move into being more being more supportive of others...

ELIAS: And?

ANNE: ...in terms of the cash. Iíd really like to do that for Patrick.

ELIAS: And that is an expression that you may generate in trusting yourself and trusting your abilities and not concerning yourself with how you generate money.

ANNE: So Iíll just not worry about it! (Laughs) I donít tend to, anyway. But as you say, itís just those periods of time when suddenly thereís nothing there, and itís like oh, wait a second, what happened? (Elias chuckles) Thank you very much for that, because I always wondered why everybody else seems so wrapped up in it and Iím not. Thank you.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are welcome!

ANNE: Just a couple of little other ones. As you were speaking about money, I had a sensation above my eye, which I do tend to get in my forehead from time to time. But again, I donít know what that is.

ELIAS: That is a signal to yourself of moments in which you somewhat discount yourself.

ANNE: Oh? But just a little bit. (Laughs)

ELIAS: Yes. Not tremendously.

ANNE: Oh, thank you very much! Thatís a nice one. (Elias chuckles) I would like to ask a question on behalf of Patrick, but before I do that, you and I knew each other in your Beethoven focus, is that correct?

ELIAS: Briefly, yes.

ANNE: Where else? Iíve really tried to figure it out, and I canít figure it out.

ELIAS: That we incorporate a focus together?

ANNE: Yes.

ELIAS: Ireland. That is...

ANNE: And the famous focus that I have regarding the movie star, I could never find her.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Continue your investigation.

ANNE: You know the book that Iím doing Ė I donít want to mention it now Ė Iíve been trying to work on doing various bits and pieces for it, and Iím thinking wait a second, thereís something not flowing just yet. Iím kind of not doing very much, and I feel like shouldnít I be doing something, but not really, because I know my energy is doing something different. So what Iím doing, let me just verify this with you, is there behind the scenes kind of building taking place? Is that the case?

ELIAS: Yes. Allow yourself to incorporate your communication of imagination, and also allow yourself to incorporate somewhat more of a playfulness. That may be quite influencing.

ANNE: But I am correct also in saying that there is building, something is going on behind the scenes?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Okay, Iím not going to worry. (Laughs) Patrick has a couple of questions. Thank you very much, Elias. I really appreciate that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PATRICK: Hello?

ELIAS: Welcome!

PATRICK: I have a problem with my arm. Itís a pain thatís now growing up to the shoulder. It seems like a soreness. Itís just an irritating constant pain, which I donít seem to be able to wrest myself away from. Iím not very sure what itís connected with; Iím not sure what Iím trying to tell myself.

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is being generated in association with PUSHING yourself, expectations that you incorporate of yourself in association with productivity and accomplishment, and PUSHING yourself and PUSHING your energy.

PATRICK: So Iím over-doing. Are my ambitions higher than I can accomplish?

ELIAS: Not higher than you can accomplish, but that it is not necessary to push yourself in such harshness to be accomplishing.

PATRICK: So, I should just set lower goals for myself, or I should set the same goals but take a more relaxed attitude toward them?

ELIAS: The latter is more efficient.

PATRICK: In my job thereís a lot of time pressures as well, so those pressures inevitably build up faster and harder than in many other occupations.

ELIAS: This is an element of what I am expressing to you, in that you push yourself quite harshly.

PATRICK: So in your advice lies also a need to praise oneís self.

ELIAS: And appreciate yourself.

PATRICK: Through little rewards or...?

ELIAS: Ah! That may be quite a suggestion, offering yourself gifts, and allowing yourself to appreciate yourself and not necessarily generating this strength in expectations. Move that strength of energy that you incorporate to an expression of appreciation rather than expectation.

PATRICK: Yes, okay! (Elias laughs) Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANNE: He had this really cool idea from his imagination to do helicopter work. What do you think?

ELIAS: I may express quite interesting and also challenging, but perhaps fun. And that would be significant, incorporating more of a playfulness and less PUSHING. (Chuckles)

PATRICK: Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANNE: Is it hard to figure to switch from a common person to an intermediate person?

ELIAS: No.

ANNE: You can do that quite easily.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: With the intermediate, just for clarification, when you say ďcreating inwardly,Ē what do you mean, exactly? I know thatís what you mean but...

ELIAS: All of you create outwardly. All of you express energy outwardly. All of you produce outwardly, but your methods are different and how you create is different Ė how you generate imagery, what you pay attention to, how you express your perceptions. You incorporate differences in those expressions. As an intermediate individual, you do not necessarily always objectively outwardly present many of your methods that you may physically view, for the method is occurring inwardly.

ANNE: I understand that, because Iíve come to understand that within me a lot more.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: The knowledge has given me a lot more appreciation and relaxation within myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANNE: I want to thank you very much for bringing this information to my attention.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You are very welcome, my friend.

ANNE: Last question about Albert, the cat. He has changed slightly, but before he changed, why is it that he runs from Patrick? Because he runs from him sometimes.

ELIAS: And that would be associated with his question.

ANNE: He runs from Patrick because Patrick is actually pushing him, in a sense?

ELIAS: No, but he is pushing his own energy, and that generates a strength of energy. In pushing his energy, he is also creating an expression of energy outwardly of somewhat of an irritation.

ANNE: Albert has slightly changed since weíve moved house. He has become a little bit more relaxed and chilling out. Heís always been affectionate, but his reflection of his behavior is a direct reflection of us, isnít it? But primarily itís mine, because heís more with me.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: Whatever happened to Luigi, our other cat? He flew out the window and we never saw him again.

ELIAS: Are you inquiring of whether he is...

ANNE: Is he still alive?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: He is. Has he found a new owner?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANNE: That makes me feel a bit sad! He was a quite reckless cat, and he wanted other adventures, didnít he?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) In a manner of speaking, yes.

ANNE: Well, at least heís still alive. (Both laugh) Thank you very much for that. Weíre finished here.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next conversation, and I shall be offering my energy to you to be reminding you BOTH to be incorporating playfulness. (Laughs)

ANNE: Okay, will do. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. As always, in tremendous affection and encouragement, my friends, au revoir.

ANNE: Bye-bye.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 3 minutes.


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