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Tuesday, October 19, 2004

<  Session 1645 (Private/Phone)  >

ďTrusting and Allowing Ė and NOT Checking!Ē


Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anonymous.

(Eliasí arrival time is 12 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

ANON: Good morning, Elias. How are you?

ELIAS: As always. And yourself?

ANON: Iím good. My last session was fabulous, and I just wanted to continue along the same lines. But first, Iíd like some specifics for a friend of mine, Elaina Ė essence, family, alignment, orientation, focus type and number of focuses.

ELIAS: Essence name, Eva, E-V-A. And your impression?

ANON: I think she might be Sumafi/Vold.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: And orientation is common.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: Focus type is political.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: I donít know her number of focuses.

ELIAS: Numbering of focuses, 821.

ANON: Have we had other lives together?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Was she my brother? Was I her older sibling in a lot of them?

ELIAS: Several, yes.

ANON: Because I feel very protective of her.

Now, part of me is really excited because I feel like Iím starting to really get this stuff, but I also feel like Iíve jumped down the rabbit hole or leaped off the edge, and I havenít quite hit the net yet. The last time we talked about the litigation and how I was keeping things ongoing to create the outcome that I wanted. It was very interesting, because I did go and I was very aware of my automatic responses. I couldnít necessarily stop them in the moment, but I was aware of them; I had some objectivity there. It was very surreal because the person that Iím opposing, that Iím suing, I drove him to the airport, and it was like thereís no anger underneath all of this stuff. We were connecting somehow energetically even though we had to... (Audio completely cuts out for 17 seconds) ...but I wasnít going to compromise on my value, on everything else in this. This whole thing was in place for me so that I donít have to compromise on this; I donít have to negotiate with them to pay me less than what I have billed them. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes, and I am extending my congratulations at your successfulness.

ANON: The thing is it hasnít completed yet. What ended up happening was I became very clear on it, but then I immediately thought I have to do something in order to bring this to completion. So I wrote them a letter saying that I was firm in my resolve and all of that stuff, but I didnít send the letter. Part of me feels that I donít need to do that physically, but somehow by me still staying in my resolve or my determination... Itís not a rigid determination; itís just kind of like a knowing that it will resolve itself...

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: ...and they will just pay me.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: So I donít need to do anything?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: This is the piece that confuses me.

ELIAS: You have already done it.

ANON: I have, havenít I?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: So when the lawyers are saying theyíre not going to settle for less, I know that what theyíre saying Ė theyíre almost like little monkeys chattering Ė and I know that what theyíre saying isnít the truth. Theyíre saying that because thatís what they believe, but it isnít what I believe.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: Iím kind of noticing their information and my information. But Elias, itís confusing, because Iím sitting here and energetically I know that Iím in this resolve, in this alignment, and what I hear you saying is that I need to respect that Iíve already done it.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: So I physically shouldnít do anything anymore?

ELIAS: It is not a matter of should or shouldnít. It is a matter that it is not necessary.

ANON: This is also interesting. Iíve manifested this; Iíve set this in motion; Iíve hooked into this probable reality for me. Now, thereís a lag between me doing that and it manifesting. I want to understand that lag, because what ends up happening is that sometimes I get impatient, and I negate my knowing.

ELIAS: But this is your opportunity to practice patience. And what is patience?

ANON: Iím not really good at it, so Iím going to ask you what it is! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Patience is NOT waiting. It is allowing, and this is your opportunity to practice allowing.

ANON: But do I need to...? My allowing is I donít need to keep going back into that energy all the time, right? Iím there, I know it. If I look at it, I know that Iím there. I donít need to concentrate on it every minute of the day.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: I donít need to keep checking in on it.

ELIAS: Correct. MERELY ALLOW. If you are continuously, in your terms, checking, what are you actually doing? You are doubting your own expression, and you are not trusting. In this, allow yourself to relax and trust that you have already expressed yourself, and it is unnecessary to continue.

ANON: Was the important piece the expressing of myself to them or the expressing of myself inside of me, of what I knew to be my preference or my truth?

ELIAS: Both.

ANON: What I do is I would go back and go I should have said this or I should have said that and that would have made a difference.

ELIAS: No, no, no. Trust what you HAVE expressed and trust your creation, and allow.

ANON: Because the other is old behavior.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: This was my opportunity to recognize my old behavior. And boy, it was very compelling. I almost went there again, but then I thought you know what, just donít do it, donít go there.

ELIAS: I am understanding. And I am understanding of the challenge. But you may be evidencing to yourself that in generating new actions and trusting yourself, you may be creating what you want much more efficiently. In this, remind yourself [that] each time you check yourself, you are discounting and doubting. Each time you incorporate that action, you are reinforcing the concentration upon doubt, which you do not want to do. Therefore, merely allow yourself to trust that you have already expressed yourself, and therefore, you have already accomplished.

ANON: So that checking in is actually a form of worry, like I am grabbing on to the worry and the doubt. I understand that.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: When I woke up the next morning and I knew exactly what my resolve was and my determination was, that was the moment. Then itís just like relax and allow, and then I donít need to address it again.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: This is happening in many other areas of my life. I am being asked to do this over and over again. On the weekend, I had a trance or a meditation or whatever, just my time. I allowed myself to not do anything that day; doing is very important in my being. I was picking at all the pieces of my life, just looking at them: what about body, what about money. Then it focused on my business, and what ended up happening was it took on a life of its own and I spent quite a lot of time, actually, observing what it was. It took on the aspect of my whole life. It included everything. It wasnít just business, it was all of it Ė my relationships, my body, my money, everything.

ELIAS: For all of this is interrelated and interconnected.

ANON: In order for this business to come about, I need to listen to this information. This is my core information that is being shown to me right now.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And thereís a dichotomy between what I think I should do... Itís not even really strong anymore. Itís this information has the information, and if all I did is just make business cards, is that enough to physically start manifesting this?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And just being present to what that information wants all the time?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: How do I participate with it to allow it more? This is my manifesting, right? This is me understanding what Iím trying to manifest or concentrating on.

ELIAS: And what you are communicating to yourself and information that you are offering to yourself.

ANON: When I was in that state on Sunday, was I engaging beliefs or was I tapping into a source place in myself that is information?

ELIAS: You are offering yourself information. You are tapping into what you term to be a source which you offer yourself information through, but yes, you are also filtering all of that information through beliefs. EVERYTHING within your reality is filtered through beliefs.

ANON: So there is no getting out of beliefs. I donít know why I hate beliefs right now, but part of me doesnít want to ad nauseam inspect every single belief.

ELIAS: Which is not necessary.

ANON: Good! (Laughs)

ELIAS: It genuinely is not necessary to be analyzing and evaluating all of your beliefs continuously. It is not necessary to be generating that type of analytical action continuously. As I speak to you of the examination of beliefs, it is merely in association with those influences of beliefs that generate limitations or that influence you in a manner that creates conflict or hinders your movement in shifting.

But I have expressed repeatedly, your beliefs are not your enemy. As to the idea of the purity of experience without beliefs, this is, in a manner of speaking, ludicrous, for the beliefs are an element of the blueprint of this physical reality. Therefore, they are an aspect of the purity of it.

ANON: When Iím having this experience, what Iím actually doing is I am engaging a preference of a belief.

ELIAS: Yes, and you are filtering information through beliefs without expressing judgments of the beliefs. This is the point Ė not to be changing or eliminating beliefs but to be aware that they exist, to be aware that all of your reality is filtered through beliefs in some capacity, that they influence your perception in every moment. But that is not a negative and that is not a limitation. For YOU CHOOSE which influences are more in keeping with your preferences, for every belief incorporates many different influences. It is merely a matter of choosing which influence you prefer.

ANON: This is the interesting part, because the mechanism of choosing is the piece that I have been missing. Iím not clear on how I choose. Iíve been doing a lot of work with going into this meditative state, and if I tap into the pure energies of these places, what I call pure, there is no judgment. That piece of it is gone. So in doing that, Iím obviously engaging a belief, but I donít know at what point Iíve actively chosen it, because it isnít my brain thatís choosing. Itís not like I have a checklist of beliefs and influences, and Iím going okay, Iím going to pick that one.

ELIAS: Correct, although you can engage that action.

Now; let me express to you, this is significant, for once you engage even ONE belief and allow yourself to evaluate many of the different influences of ONE belief, this offers you significant information, which is very influencing of your perception, for this offers information to perception.

Once you have generated that type of action in that evaluation and have allowed yourself to actually objectively intentionally choose a specific influence, it is unnecessary for you to be generating that action with all of your beliefs, for you automatically begin to recognize how to generate that action without even incorporating thought. It begins to occur automatically.

This is what I have been expressing to many individuals in association with this wave addressing to truths, for this is a tremendous opportunity. This particular wave is tremendously strong and generates a great intensity. It also is quite powerful, and in this, as these truths are being presented experientially, not intellectually, it is highly efficient. For, experience is what generates a concept into reality. Without the experience, the concept remains a concept. It may be understood intellectually, but it is not fully understood for it is not applied.

Now; as you experience any one of your truths, you begin to clearly identify what it is, and as you recognize that this truth is actually a belief that has been cast into an absolute, you may begin to realize that it is not actually true, and therefore is not necessarily applicable in all situations or with all individuals, no matter how strongly you express it.

In that, there are many different actions that begin to occur. One is that you begin to be much more objectively aware of differences. You also begin to recognize your preferences more clearly. You also recognize what you do NOT prefer more clearly. That opens a window to examine what the different influences of that one belief are, and as you present more and more of the influences to yourself, you also present yourself with more and more choices, which expands your freedom.

Now; the action of merely addressing to one truth, which is one belief, and generating that evaluation and engaging that process, so to speak, is tremendously valuable. For once you have engaged that process in association with even ONE belief, you have offered enough information to the perception that it can generate that action without you objectively engaging this process in an objective manner. Which it continues to engage the process, but that process may be engaged and in your terms completed within a matter of seconds. It may incorporate more time for you to verbally explain an action than it does to actually do it.

ANON: And it gets done, regardless of my physical brain thoughts.

ELIAS: Correct, correct. That begins to be evident to you as you begin to view your reality changing or yourself changing Ė which you are continuously doing but you are not always noticing, with the exception of time frameworks. You are noticing now that you are different from what you were one year ago. You are noticing now that you are different and express yourself differently than you did six of your months ago. But as you continue, you shall be noticing more and more that you are changing and view the changes more immediately.

ANON: Can we work with one piece in this? Are you willing to do that with me?

ELIAS: Very well.

ANON: Iím very intrigued by this awareness, because Iíve been overwhelmed by having to... Sometimes I get confused what beliefs Iím engaging and the influences, and I donít want to go there analytically.

So Ė body. Body has been an issue my whole life. Iíve chosen this kind of body, and weíve talked about this over and over again. Last session we talked about different techniques of if Iím doubting myself to offer myself a chocolate and dance if Iím eating. Itís been really weird, but Iíve been doing that. (Laughs) Iím tired of chocolate now! But Iíve been noticing a big dichotomy. Iíll have thoughts that have been my record in my head Ė Iím fat, Iím ugly and all those things Ė but Iíve been noticing that there are moments where I feel like Iím losing lots of weight or Iím smaller. So when I do that and Iím feeling calm, then I get on the scale and I weigh the same or Iíve gained three pounds! So thereís a big dichotomy between perceptions here, and I donít understand it. I donít understand what Iím doing in this.

ELIAS: Let me offer explanation. First of all, what you are creating with the perception that you are smaller or incorporating less weight or experiencing more of a lightness within your physical body IS real. Your perception has created that, and it is REAL in those moments. But what you do is you question that and you doubt that. You do not accept it and relax and allow yourself to appreciate that. You immediately doubt that you have affected any actual physical manifestation. Therefore, what do you do? In your questioning of yourself, you seek proof, for your experience is not proof enough. Therefore, you engage your scale. Well, you have already discounted yourself. You have already changed your perception again back to the familiar.

This is an excellent example, for this offers you an example of how INSTANTLY you can change your perception and actually change your reality. You are experiencing the reality of altering your physical body through your perception and it is quite real, but your experience of it Ė which you have Ė you do not trust. It is not black and white enough. Therefore, you doubt your experience, you doubt the reality of it, and as quickly as you doubt that, you also alter your reality again and you alter your perception. And therefore what occurs? You express your evidence to yourself that you have not incorporated altering your weight or you have increased it, for you engage your scale and you trust your equipment or your machine more than you trust yourself and how you actually manipulate your reality.

You HAVE successfully created alterations of your physical form, your physical body. You have experienced it, and it is quite real. But you also now have allowed yourself to view that you can alter your reality instantaneously in one moment of doubt. In one moment of seeking that proof, of one moment of requiring the black and white and the absolutes, you alter your perception again.

ANON: I really felt that this was what was happening. It was just too different. The perceptions were so different that it got me noticing.

ELIAS: Yes, which is quite valuable.

ANON: Yes. So in what you were saying before about examining the differences and the influences of one belief, can we take that and then apply it to this situation?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Can you help me through how I would do that or what I would do?

ELIAS: Identify what you perceive to be the belief.

ANON: This is the hard part; I hate this part. (Elias chuckles) Whatís the belief, that Iím not good enough? I really donít know.

ELIAS: That is quite general. The belief concerns your physical body form and that the physical body functions in a particular manner and that certain expressions influence the functioning of the physical body. It also concerns that the physical body manifests itself and that you do not incorporate much control concerning how the physical body manifests.

Now; in examination of the physical body functioning and its manifestation and that there are certain outside influences that affect the functioning and manifestation of the physical body, this is one belief.

Now; there are many, many, many influences of this one belief. There are influences concerning substances, concerning food, concerning rest, concerning exercise, concerning age. There are many, many, many different influences associated with this. The influences that you express are that if you consume certain foods containing certain quantities of fat or of calories, that is influencing and affecting of your physical body in a manner which is unappealing, that it generates extra weight. That is one influence.

You also incorporate an influence that you express that lack of exercise also contributes to excess weight and less firmness of the physical body. That is another influence. Those are two strongly expressed influences.

Now; what may some other influences be in association with this one belief?

ANON: The belief being...?

ELIAS: That outside influences affect the physical body and how it functions and how it is manifest.

ANON: We talked about this the last time, and this is what Iím playing with. The influence that I would prefer is to marry my physical manifestation directly with the joy of the experience Ė for example, forget about the calories and the fat, whatever Iím consuming, as long as I am enjoying and experiencing the sensuality of the different flavors and textures, then I manifest a body that is lean, strong and healthy.

ELIAS: Correct. But also if you choose to incorporate the terminology of ďmarrying,Ē perhaps incorporate the action of marrying yourself with the physical body, merging yourself with your physical body and listening to what it expresses to you. For it communicates to you, but you are unfamiliar with listening to what it is communicating.

ANON: Well, I listen; I just override what I hear.

ELIAS: Ah ha! And that is a key.

ANON: I understand this belief about what we consume, and itís an epidemic in our society. I know this is a mass belief; I understand that. Iím ready to make changes to this. Iíve been leading up to it.

ELIAS: But remember the belief is not bad, and therefore, it also incorporates other influences.

In this, in association with outside influences affecting of the physical body, acknowledge that you do incorporate this as an expressed belief, acknowledge that you are not eliminating this belief and it is not your enemy, and therefore, relaxing that it is expressed and it is not bad: ďVery well, it is not bad, but I am not actually preferring the particular influences that I have been allowing and have been expressing for an extended time framework. Very well, what are other influences of this same belief of outside influences?Ē Adornments are outside influences that also express an appreciation of the physical form Ė garments and the incorporation of expressing an aesthetic beauty in clothing the physical body is also an outside influence.

Now; that may appear to you to not necessarily be physically affecting of weight, but ah-ha, perhaps that is not an absolute either! For the incorporation of different garments may influence the perception to be generating a different form, WHICH IS NOT AN ILLUSION; it is quite real.

LISTENING to the physical body is important also, recognizing different types of actions of outside influences and expressing to yourself what you LIKE to do Ė not in association with consuming, with DOING Ė allowing for a flexibility of the physical body, and perhaps engaging some of these outside influences such as water and swimming, which allows for a relaxation, a pleasurable sensation of a physical outside influence that is affecting of the physical body, but not in association with work and exercise but in association with supportiveness, flexibility, buoyancy and pleasure. Are you understanding what I am expressing to you?

ANON: When you talk about outside influences in this regard, this is actual physical movement of my body?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: So we talked about that the last time, to basically unhook my body formation from what I eat and how I exercise.

ELIAS: Correct. And listening and not overriding its communications is significant. At times, it may be communicating to you that what it wants and what is efficient is to be relaxing and resting and not doing. It may be expressing no want of actual consumption of foods, and you may override that and justify that in expressing to yourself that you are engaging a pleasurable action; but in the moment, your physical body may not necessarily require that. Or it may require or want certain input, and you are attempting to deny that, for your influences that you are choosing in the moment are discounting you and dictating that you should not.

ANON: Thatís the hard one. Then I go into punishment mode. Like if I feel like I want to eat a certain food, then Iím afraid about eating that food but the desire is so strong to have that... It doesnít make any sense to me. So I should be listening to that.

ELIAS: Yes. Your body is communicating to you. It expresses to you quite clearly what it wants, what fuel it wants in a particular moment. That fuel may not necessarily appear logical to you.

ANON: No, nor within the Canada food guide, even!

ELIAS: For it is dependent upon how your physical body is actually functioning in that moment and what fuel it prefers in that particular moment, which may not necessarily be a logical fuel, but nevertheless there is some element of that particular fuel that your body is communicating to you that it wants.

ANON: So ďlistenĒ is the big message here. The process that we just did then is identifying the belief and then the influences that the belief has, and then brainstorming or just trying to think about other influences that I may prefer.

ELIAS: Correct. They are not as elusive as you may think.

ANON: I know that Iím complicating it. I know that I am. (Elias chuckles) I just find it very difficult. Iíll continue to work on that; I donít think itís going to flip over today.

There are two other things that Iíd like to cover. One is that my brother and I are very tied together lately. It started with his business, and then he ended up in a litigation, too. This whole thing is very dramatic, and for some reason, I have a piece in that and it makes me feel extremely ill. Iím wondering if itís none of my business and Iím sticking my nose in his business. Whatís keeping it stuck for him? Heís asked me to ask that, too.

ELIAS: First of all clarify your participation.

ANON: I feel like I somehow got this whole thing going. Heís a very calm guy, and he was, in my perception, being taken advantage of, and in his perception and his wifeís perception too. And so, of course, my advice was to make a stand for yourself. That ended up with the relationship breaking off and then him suing for something that he has created. He has created something, and the other person is saying itís not his.

So I was the driving force behind ďgo after it,Ē and thatís the part that makes me feel sick. I donít know if he would have gone there if I hadnít stuck my nose in or not. Actually, Iím feeling guilty. I can feel that right now as Iím talking to you.

ELIAS: I am aware.

ANON: Itís getting stuck right now, and itís getting stuck on the periphery. Not on the issue of his ownership and him owning this stuff, but on the lawyers, the fighting with the lawyers, which is basically a distraction. Iíve been trying to back out of it, just saying look, this is yours and it really has nothing to do with me.

ELIAS: But you initiated it.

ANON: I did.

ELIAS: And therefore, what has ensued, now the other individual involves you as incorporating partial responsibility.

ANON: Yes. But it isnít my...

ELIAS: I am aware, but you are also perceiving that you are responsible, and this is the reason that you are reflecting that to yourself.

ANON: Whatís really happening here, though? Is this his thing, like he has his own...

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. It has been his choice to engage this action, and therefore, it is NOT actually your responsibility, but you are responsible for your participation and what type of energy you project. What you are projecting, you are also reflecting to yourself. You are projecting guilt and a responsibility for another individualís choices.

You offered a suggestion, you initiated an action with this individual, but it was his choice whether to engage it or not. You cannot create his reality. It is his choice to engage the action or not. As he chose to engage the action, he is also generating two expressions within himself. He is doubting within himself and not trusting himself, and he is also reflecting your guilt in perceiving you to be partially responsible. But that, as I have stated, is a reflection of YOUR perception of responsibility, incorporating personal responsibility for the other individual, which is not your responsibility.

Now; in this type of situation, it becomes quite challenging, does it not? For it may not actually accomplish what you want to merely engage the other individual and express that you wash your hands of this situation, for you are not, actually. It is not actually successful to think to yourself that this is his choice, this is his action and it does not concern you, for you have already concerned yourself. Therefore, you ARE participating.

In this, what is the key is that you recognize that it is his choice, that you have not created his reality, you are NOT responsible for his reality, you did offer a suggestion and it was his choice to engage that suggestion or not, but that you have complicated this situation by incorporating personal responsibility and guilt. In that, as you acknowledge yourself and you acknowledge the other individual, not in a manner of washing your hands and being as Pilate... (Chuckles)

ANON: As Pilate?

ELIAS: Yes, historically.

ANON: Pontius Pilate?

ELIAS: Yes. But rather expressing a supportiveness with the other individual and an acceptance of his choices, and recognizing that it is not your job to instruct and that you are not walking away, but you are choosing not to involve yourself for it is not your preference and it actually does not concern you, but that you can be sharing experiences with your sibling and you can be expressing supportiveness and acceptance.

This is a valuable experience also, for it allows you to view the difference between sharing experiences and attempting to instruct another individual, and how instructing of another individual actually discounts you and discounts them, and quite frequently incorporates the potential to create a sticky situation! (Chuckles) My, my, you are offering yourself considerable information in the time framework from our last conversation! Ha ha ha!

ANON: Yes, I am a woman of excess! (Both laugh) I feel like all this information is coming, Iím just not... But there is a big trust thatís going on inside of me too, like with money, for example. I just know that itís going to be there. I just know that.

ELIAS: And is getting stronger.

ANON: It is?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Am I going to win the lottery this week?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Are you?

ANON: Oh, good question! So I allow myself to face up to what Iím feeling here in this situation with him. Is there anything he can do to unstick it?

ELIAS: To be trusting himself and not pushing, and resting in what he has already accomplished rather than complicating and pushing energy and being distracted.

ANON: So heís doing the same thing that I was doing with mine?

ELIAS: Yes, and the distraction is generating distraction with the attorneys also.

ANON: Just to sum up then before our next meeting, Iím on the right track, I donít mean that judgmentally, but just keep sitting in this energy of allowing it to communicate to me what is going on?

ELIAS: Yes. And allow yourself to RELAX and TRUST and NOT PUSH ENERGY. You are correct. This is being reflected in every direction within your focus, even in association with your conversations with myself.

ANON: That Iím not pushing?

ELIAS: In pushing, you are generating reflections of that even in association with OUR meetings.

ANON: I know the first one in this past group of sessions, it was like I was arm wrestling you to the ground and you were arm wrestling me right back! And I just didnít get it. I couldnít get the answers I was looking for.

ELIAS: But also recognize that in this rigidness and not incorporating this flexibility and also pushing your energy, AND incorporating doubts of yourself and some elements of guilt which spill into other areas too and are expressed also underlyingly, that is being reflected in OTHER expressions Ė in association with pushing your conversation with myself to another time framework, in association with generating somewhat of a temporary thickness with Michael. You are generating this type of action in many, many, many directions, and it is worthy of your noticing. But I am also acknowledging of you that you are noticing quickly, and in a manner of speaking, you are generating recovery quite quickly also, which is to be acknowledged.

ANON: The message about relaxing, relaxing is coming up all the time, and to be honest, I donít know when Iím not relaxing.

ELIAS: I am understanding, for the tension has become so very familiar that it appears to you to be normal.

ANON: Yes. Is there some way that I can relax? Is there some cue that I can give myself that will get me to relax?

ELIAS: Experiment, even ONE time, with my suggestion of the different influence of the water. Perhaps physically experiencing and allowing the sensation of the water shall offer you clues as to the difference of how your physical body actually feels if it is incorporating an actual relaxation rather than what you feel to be normal.

ANON: Thatís like swimming or going to a pool or something like that?

ELIAS: Some type of water.

ANON: The buoyancy of...

ELIAS: Yes. It is not even necessary to incorporate swimming or a pool or a pond. You may even experience that in your bath.

ANON: I will to do that. We are out of time.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next conversation quite soon. (Chuckles)

ANON: Yes, it will be quite soon. I will work on this thickness so it doesnít get delayed.

ELIAS: And I am encouraged and confident that you shall be successful. (Laughs)

ANON: Me, too! I feel like Iím moving a lot lately. Is that perception...?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANON: I jumped down the rabbit hole and Iíll just wait to see where I land! Thank you very much.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are very welcome, my friend. In affection and in playfulness, until our next meeting, au revoir.

ANON: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 3 minutes.


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