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Saturday, August 27, 2005

<  Session 1831 (Private/Phone)  >

ďA Bit More on After Death ExperienceĒ

ďStress Related to a MarriageĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Scott (Vladd, was Cedric).

(Eliasí arrival time is 15 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

SCOTT: Good afternoon! I would ask how youíre doing, but itís ďas always.Ē

ELIAS: (Laughs loudly) Correct! And how shall we proceed?

SCOTT: I was telling Mary I originally had about a 120 questions, and Iíve narrowed them down to about 59, so... (Elias laughs) I have them all grouped and prioritized, so I guess I can just go ahead and start down the list, if that works for you.

ELIAS: Very well.

SCOTT: Can you tell me how many focuses I have, total, and how many I have currently?

ELIAS: Total numbering of focuses, 361.

SCOTT: How many do I have currently?

ELIAS: In this present time framework, five.

SCOTT: Have I been in contact with any of those? ELIAS: Current focuses?



SCOTT: Seems kind of like a low number. Is that on the lower end? Iíve heard ranges anywhere between 200 and 1400.

ELIAS: Yes, it is dependent upon the essence and the choice to be participating. Many individuals categorize the numbering of focuses that an individual incorporates within this physical reality as an identification of whether you are an old soul or a new soul or in between. I may express to you, in that categorization, you would be in between.

SCOTT: Iím not an old soul, but not a young soul.

ELIAS: Correct, in relation to this physical reality. Some essences choose to be focusing attentions in many other realities more so than in this reality. Some essences choose to be participating in this reality more than in other realities. It is merely dependent upon the preference of the essence and what they choose to explore.

SCOTT: Can you tell me how many I have in other realities, or is that too many to number?

ELIAS: That would be the latter. That would be not countable. There are numberless other realities than this one, and in those realities, it would not be possible to offer an accurate estimation of a numbering of focuses, for that is endless.

SCOTT: Can you tell me my earliest and latest focuses in relation to this current one?

ELIAS: In conjunction with your linear time, the earliest focus would be approximately 5000 years B.C. Your most future focus would be, at this point, approximately 25th century.

SCOTT: So when you say ďat this point,Ē this could actually change, I guess.

ELIAS: Yes. That is a number that fluctuates. It is not static. Essences can and frequently do create additional focuses, or you may generate less focuses in any particular time framework, dependent upon fragmentation.

SCOTT: Am I fragmented from another essence?

ELIAS: All essences are fragmented from other essences.

SCOTT: That reminds me of some of the Michael material where he talks about overleaves, and he kind of mentions fragmentation also. He categorizes all these different groups, kind of like the families of consciousness that you have, but completely different names. I canít remember all the different information, but Iím not sure if you are familiar with any of that.

ELIAS: Somewhat, yes.

SCOTT: Is it like an interpretation of the same thing?


SCOTT: Do I share any focuses with my wife?


SCOTT: And how many of those? (Pause)

ELIAS: Twenty-nine.

SCOTT: Thatís kind of high. How many focuses does she have? (Pause)

ELIAS: Six hundred thirteen.

SCOTT: Sheís more grown up than I am. (Elias laughs) Do I share any focuses with my daughters?


SCOTT: How many of those?

ELIAS: Express each individual.

SCOTT: How about Grace?

ELIAS: Thirty-seven.

SCOTT: And Brenna? (Pause)

ELIAS: Forty-one.

SCOTT: There was a psychic that we talked to a year or two ago, and he mentioned how focuses or whatever will kind of stay in groups. He mentioned that Brenna was in the same kind of grouping that my wife and I are in, but he mentioned that Grace wasnít. Does that make any sense?

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. Generally speaking, individuals do manifest in groups.

Now; as I identify a numbering of focuses that you incorporate with each these individuals, those are focuses that you share in some capacity of intimacy, whether it be in romantic relationships or familial relationships or friendships. They are expressed in some capacity of intimacy. You may incorporate many more focuses in which those individuals participate but in more of what you would term to be a background capacity, such as individuals that you interact with frequently that occupy your atmosphere, your environment, such as shopkeepers or other types of individuals that you interact with but who are not generating an intimate relationship with you.

In this, generally speaking, essences do generate manifestations in focuses in groups. Generally speaking, most of the individuals within your environment now have also been participants in other focuses with you in different capacities.

Now; in association with certain individuals, certain individuals may choose to be manifest repeatedly Ė or certain ESSENCES may choose to be manifest repeatedly Ė in conjunction with other specific essences, and they, at times, may not necessarily group together in the same manner. That is actually accurate, for you may incorporate two essences that may generate a significant number of focuses together as a preference but may not necessarily manifest in all of the focuses that each individual generally groups with.

SCOTT: Is there another individual that Iíve shared a more significant number of focuses with than the people that Iím involved with now, or other people that I know that Iíve shared a lot more focuses with? Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes, there are other individuals that you interact with now that you express somewhat of a closeness with that you have incorporated many focuses with also.

SCOTT: Would that be my mother or my mother-in-law?

ELIAS: Your mother. You incorporate more focuses with that individual than you do with the previous three.

SCOTT: How many do I share with my mother?

ELIAS: One hundred twenty-two.

SCOTT: Iíve kind of felt a connection with my mother-in-law, too. How many do I share with her?

ELIAS: One hundred fourteen.

SCOTT: My mother happens to be an atheist, and I had a couple of questions regarding her. With an atheist belief system, does that sometimes cause difficulty in transition?

ELIAS: Not necessarily, for the action of transition in nonphysical expression is the action of shedding the beliefs associated with a particular reality Ė physical reality Ė and shedding the objective awareness. For the objective awareness is associated with physical reality, and it is not necessary in nonphysical areas of consciousness. It may or may not create some challenge, dependent upon the individual.

What may or may not generate somewhat more of a challenge for the individual would be if the individual disengages and is not moving into that action of transition immediately. Many, many, many individuals generate that direction, in which upon the choice of death within this reality, they actually do not begin immediately to engage this action of transition, and therefore continue to generate an objective awareness and continue to create objective imagery that is associated with your physical reality. Therefore, many individuals temporarily are unaware that they have chosen to disengage.

SCOTT: That actually ties into a question about my father. He disengaged about a year and a half ago. I was going to ask you to comment on if he is still in transition or if heís made it through and gone into transition, or kind of where heís at with that. (Pause)

ELIAS: This individual is slightly beginning to move into an action of transition, but very slightly, and is continuing to generate objective imagery but is aware that he is not participating within physical focus any longer. He incorporates an understanding that he is not participating within your physical reality, but that is not necessarily the point. This is also quite common.

Upon the realization that an individual has disengaged and is not actually participating within the physical reality any longer, they may choose intentionally not to be engaging transition, for they may choose to continue to explore with how they can manipulate energy in what they are generating with objective imagery. For once an individual has disengaged, even without the awareness that they are not participating within this physical reality, they begin somewhat quickly to recognize that the objective imagery that they are creating is different from what they created within the actual physical reality, and they begin to discover that it is much more flexible.

SCOTT: Do they have contact with other essences or focuses during this time, or are they kind of on their own?

ELIAS: They can. It is dependent upon what the individual chooses to be manipulating and what they choose to engage. Yes, they can be interactive with other essences quite easily. They also can be manipulating and projecting energy through layers of consciousness to be generating an interaction with individuals that continue within physical focus.

SCOTT: I assume my father has not done that.

ELIAS: Especially in this type of movement, in which they are continuing to incorporate objective awareness and continuing to create objective imagery, they begin to notice that there are, figuratively speaking, holes in energy in which they can penetrate their energy into your physical reality.

Now; I may express to you, this individual has projected energy, but many individuals that would be associated with him have not been paying attention.

SCOTT: So heís, in a sense, trying to contact us, but weíre really not listening or paying attention?

ELIAS: It is not a matter of contacting, for that implies a message. It is more playful as an action, merely generating a projection of energy to create an interaction.

SCOTT: Kind of like saying hi.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

SCOTT: Has he been in contact with other relatives of his, like his parents or anything like that?


SCOTT: Because with the near death experiences, one of the common themes is you are welcomed by other relatives that have gone before you. I donít know if thatís an accurate description of a common experience.

ELIAS: That is somewhat of a translation. In that, what generally occurs is that the individual themselves are projecting energy in that state. They have not actually chosen to disengage. They may be temporarily or momentarily experimenting, and they may allow themselves moments in which they are actually objectively aware that they can engage that choice if they wish, but they have not actually chosen to be disengaging. In that situation, in that state, so to speak, the individual creates their own imagery. It is not actually associated with an interaction of other individuals. It is associated with the individualís beliefs and what they associate with a source of comfort that shall be helpful to them in generating what they think of as a transition into another state.

In actuality, every individual is aware momentarily at the moment of that choice of death and is aware that they are choosing to be engaging that action; but generally speaking, most individuals, subsequent to that choice, do not remember that choice. It is not a process of moving into the light. It is not a process of being guided by other individuals or other essences. In a manner of speaking, it would be more accurate to express that the individual merely blinks. They engage the choice of death, they blink out of this physical reality, and in their next blink, they are viewing a physical reality again, which resembles this physical reality quite closely.

SCOTT: So, at least prior to transition, they see a singular focus of awareness as themselves and still identify themselves as who they were in the last focus.


SCOTT: I guess within the state of transition they can take it slowly, and they donít have to be bombarded with all their different lives or whatever.

ELIAS: Correct, dependent upon which beliefs they have already shed and which they have not.

SCOTT: Is it possible to maintain or hold anger after you die?


SCOTT: I guess your objective imagery would be a reflection of that?

ELIAS: Yes, for you may continue to be expressing emotion in association with the objective awareness and creating objective imagery.

SCOTT: If I wanted to continue to express and experience emotion and things related to the physical world, I could do that pretty much as long as I wanted to after my disengagement, prior to my transition?

ELIAS: Yes, you can, although it shall be different. Eventually you shall recognize that you are not participating within physical focus any longer, and you shall recognize that you are manipulating every element of the imagery that you may be interacting with. You shall begin to recognize that there is no active participation of other individuals that you are creating.

For example, you may disengage this day, and in that, within physical time, as you blink out, individuals within physical reality may have experienced at least two of your weeks before you blink again and are aware of yourself and are aware of your existence.

SCOTT: That kind of hinges on another question I had. The day after my dad died, I kind of sensed his presence.

ELIAS: That is different. That is associated with energy deposits, which are very common, especially surrounding the death of an individual. For they generally express an energy deposit, which is a type of energy signature, prior to their disengagement, and that is generally sensed by individuals that continue within physical focus. That is not unusual.

SCOTT: I sensed a little bit of confusion on his part, but that might have been an energy deposit that he left prior to disengaging.

ELIAS: It also includes an element of energy that is expressed during the disengagement, and at times that may be somewhat confusing to the individual. But subsequent to that action, temporarily there is no memory of death. This is what begins to be somewhat, actually quite slightly, confusing to an individual as they begin to recognize that they are not actually participating within physical reality any longer. For, they do not incorporate the memory of death until the point that they begin to recognize that the physical objective imagery that they are generating does not actually match the physical reality any longer.

SCOTT: In keeping with that theme, my mother feels like sheís coming down with Alzheimerís. From what I understand, at least from the transcripts that Iíve read, Alzheimerís can be a method for transition prior to disengagement.

ELIAS: Yes. In this, there are many different expressions of transition within physical focus, some of which individuals may engage for the reason of facilitating movement within the Shift and moving into an acceptance of beliefs and generating somewhat more of an ease in shifting.

Some individuals engage transition within physical focus somewhat as a prelude to death and choose to be engaging a type of action of transition that is similar to that within nonphysical areas of consciousness. It is not entirely the same, but it does generate a type of preparation in which, generally speaking, individuals that create this type of transition within physical focus, that which you view as senility or as this disease of Alzheimerís, those types of choices of transition generally move the individual into the nonphysical action of transition much more quickly.

SCOTT: Is that what my mother is going through right now?

ELIAS: In generating transition within physical focus? Yes.

SCOTT: I have a couple other questions. I might want to shift gears here, if thatís okay.

ELIAS: Very well.

SCOTT: I have a history of stomach pains that they have not been able to diagnose medically. I was wondering if you could comment on that or could provide any insight.

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

SCOTT: My impression generally is the traditional understanding, that I feel like Iím suppressing stress, which kind of ties into other questions I have that tie into my marriage. My wife and I seem to butt heads a lot. I donít know if that could possibly be related to our orientations Ė which is another question I had, what our orientations are and possibly what is going on between us Ė but I have tied my stomach problems, recently at least, over to stress I may be suppressing in relation to my marriage. I donít know if thatís the case necessarily, but I know thatís how I feel.

ELIAS: Not limited to that relationship, but yes, you are somewhat correct, it is tension that you hold. In that, it is also associated with an energy of opposition Ė energy that you oppose yourself and oppose outwardly, also Ė which generates this tension within your physical body consciousness. In allowing yourself to release that energy and allowing yourself to practice with relaxing and not generating opposition, that may be significantly affecting of this situation and this manifestation.

In this, the greatest contributant to that is opposition. This has become quite familiar to you, my friend, in which it is so familiar that you are not always objectively aware that you are even generating it.

SCOTT: The stomach pains?

ELIAS: No, the opposing.

SCOTT: Iím contributing the opposition within our marriage as whatís causing some of the stress.

ELIAS: You are opposing other individuals, and you are also opposing yourself. In this, there is also a factor of expectations, which perpetuates the opposition.

Now; as to the differences with yourself and your partner, what do you assess is the most affecting?

SCOTT: Well, it seems like we have different ideas. We actually just had a martial counseling appointment yesterday, and it seems like what I want to focus on is trying to improve myself, looking toward myself, and viewing her interactions with me and not taking them personally and see how I contribute to that Ė that kind of focus. She thinks we need to be focused on the relationship; I think we need to be focused on ourselves. I think that may tie into having different orientations, maybe. That lends itself to that kind of viewing, and thatís part of the reason I think we have different ideas of what we want in a relationship and how to go about improving our relationship. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes. And what would your impression be as to your orientation?

SCOTT: Either a common or intermediate.

ELIAS: And what would your impression be as to her orientation?

SCOTT: Soft.

ELIAS: Correct. I may express to you, your impression as to her orientation is correct. Your impression as to your impression is correct as common.

Now; that may generate some challenge, but as I have expressed to other individuals, your beliefs and your automatic responses may be more influencing. There may be some factor of challenge in association with your orientations, and that may necessitate you allowing yourselves to attempt to translate more efficiently each otherís language. But generally speaking, what is more affecting and more influencing are each of your beliefs and your automatic responses to yourself and to each other.

SCOTT: I guess this is whatís termed in a lot of metaphysics literature that you have this observing awareness that you can develop that has no judgment or whatever, but notices whatís going on in a sense and can see the belief systems that are being engaged in your interactions. By noticing my automatic responses and tying into those beliefs, I can disengage from being pulled into that emotional roller coaster that sometimes happens and creating that opposition.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

Now; let me also clarify. In this, being aware of your beliefs and your truths Ė which are generally also associated with your preferences Ė is significant and provides you with tremendous information concerning yourself. It also is helpful for you in identifying what your triggers are, which create automatic responses. As you begin to identify your beliefs, you may begin to evaluate and discover the different influences of those beliefs. Therein lies your freedom, my friend, for automatic responses are generated in association with familiar influences Ė but that is not to say that any particular belief incorporates only one influence, for they do not. They incorporate many influences, and it is a matter of choosing which influence is more in keeping with your preferences.

Now; another factor in this is recognizing differences Ė not discounting your own truths, for they are your guidelines of how you direct yourself, how you behave, how you express, but also not to discount the differences in other individualsí truths, for they are equally valid and serve the same purpose in how they generate their own guidelines.

Now; what is significant to remember is that agreement is not a requirement for acceptance or for cooperation. It is not necessary for you to agree with another individual or with their choices to express cooperation and acceptance. Also, like or dislike is not required for cooperation and acceptance. You may dislike certain expressions or choices or even individuals but also generate the ability to cooperate.

SCOTT: Thatís great, because itís right along the lines of some writing Iíve been doing. I guess Iím on the right track and I just need to keep working on it, I suppose.

ELIAS: Yes, I express encouragement to you. Remember, it is significant to generate a balance in which you are not focused upon yourself to the exclusion of all else in your environment, but you are also not focused outside of yourself to the exclusion of you.

SCOTT: I feel like the two ends there, like sheís at one end and Iím at the other.

ELIAS: In this, if you are beginning to generate a balance in which you are paying attention to you, you are paying attention to the energy that you are expressing and what is influencing you and what is triggering you. You are also allowing yourself to pay attention to the other individual and genuinely allowing yourself to evaluate what the other individual is expressing also Ė whether it is different or not, whether you agree with it or not, whether you even like it or not.

That is not to say that what the other individual is expressing is invalid. It is merely different. If you are aware of you, you can manipulate your energy in manners that do not express opposition or expectation, and therefore, you shall not project an energy of challenge or threat to the other individual, and the other individual shall be aware of that. The other individual shall feel that and shall respond.

SCOTT: So, not only do I need to work on acceptance of myself, I need to work on acceptance of her.

ELIAS: That will be an automatic by-product of becoming familiar with you and accepting you. If you are genuinely expressing an acceptance of yourself and an ease with yourself, if you are genuinely aware of what type of energy you are projecting and are genuinely aware of your own guidelines but recognizing that they are not necessarily applicable to other individuals, and if you become genuinely aware of your own expectations and stop expressing expectations, the element of acceptance of the other individual is an automatic by-product that is effortlessly and easily expressed.

For if YOU are accepting of you, and you are aware of you and are not expressing expectations of yourself and are not expressing an energy of opposition with yourself, you do not project an energy of opposition with individuals around you. And if you are not projecting an energy of expectation and opposition, which is threat and opposition, there is no reason for the other individual to respond with that type of reflection. The other individual is responding to you, reflecting what type of energy you are projecting. Therefore, if your energy is projecting appreciation, acceptance and cooperation, that is what you shall reflect to yourself. The conflict that you engage with your partner is actually purposeful, for it is motivating you to genuinely turn your attention to you.

SCOTT: Aha! So thatís the reason I married her.

ELIAS: Regardless of the choices that she engages, it matters not. You are creating all of your reality; therefore, what is being reflected to you is dependent upon what you are projecting outwardly in your energy Ė not what you say, but what your energy is projecting.

SCOTT: I guess my development for myself in this area can be facilitated for both of us.

ELIAS: Yes, quite so.

SCOTT: I guess thatís part of the reason why weíre together.

ELIAS: And that would be an interesting exploration, would it not? Perhaps I may also suggest to you that you incorporate more playfulness and less seriousness. You engage a considerable serious countenance in many situations, which merely contributes to your own automatic responses in opposing and expectations, which perpetuates the physical manifestation and perpetuates you holding to your energy and generating this tension. That tension also creates a shield, my friend. In conjunction with the opposition, this tension that you are creating is an expression of defense, and defense creates a definite shield, and if you are shielding, how can you receive?

And this is the point. In order to receive, you must expose. If you are not exposing, you are not allowing an openness. If you are not allowing an openness, how can you receive? And that is the point. If you are shielding, you are merely projecting; you are not allowing yourself to receive. And this is important.

SCOTT: So the stomach pains are an indication that I have been holding... Even though I feel like Iím making progress, thatís kind of discouraging. I feel like Iím making progress and moving along, although I kind of bounce back and forth sometimes. My stomach pain will come up out of nowhere, and itís an indication that I am holding onto some of that, keeping it inside or whatever.

ELIAS: Correct, but do not discount yourself, my friend. That is not an indicator that you are not progressing. You are.

SCOTT: Actually, Iíve had less stomach pains over the past few years than I have, I guess, traditionally.

ELIAS: Acknowledge yourself. Do not move into the expression of discounting yourself and compounding, but rather acknowledge your accomplishments. Acknowledge your awareness that you are generating more of an awareness now than you have previously. You are accomplishing generating less holding to that energy than you have been previously. You ARE generating more of an openness and a willingness to explore yourself and to become more familiar with yourself and your automatic responses. That is significant.

SCOTT: Do you see me making progress I this area?


SCOTT: That kind of touches on some other questions that I want to squeeze in real quick. Iíve been attempting to become familiar with other focuses that I have. Iíve done some writing, and I want to see if I could get some acknowledgment from you as to if any of that seems distorted or how clear some of it is.

ELIAS: Very well.

SCOTT: One of the lives that I connected with the most was a focus that I had during the Holocaust. I did a lot of automatic writing Ė or typing Ė which just kind of came through. I went ahead and let it go. I want to touch base with you to see if you think Iíve made a valid connection, whether this is another life or where this information is coming from.

ELIAS: Yes, this is another focus.

SCOTT: So itís a person that experienced the Holocaust?


SCOTT: For some reason I canít get his name. I was wondering if you could supply a name. That would help me in engaging the focus a little bit more.


SCOTT: I get the name John, but I donít know. I feel like itís all kind of jumbled. I feel like thereís other lives...

ELIAS: Actually, you incorporate several focuses in that time framework in association with that war.

SCOTT: I felt like this person was in the concentration camps.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

SCOTT: I felt like this person, after their disengagement, really felt like they understood the purpose behind their life a lot more. So thatís valid?


SCOTT: I felt like this focus wanted to contact me more than I wanted to contact this focus, and thatís why all of this writing just kind of came through quickly and automatically.

ELIAS: It is a connection, yes. But that is also being prompted Ė which is to be acknowledged Ė within you, for you are generating more of an openness. As you generate more of an openness, that creates a beacon, in a manner of speaking, figuratively, that other individuals, other focuses, can draw to, recognizing that they can be interactive, for you are generating an openness that will allow that. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you are correct that the other focuses may seek out you rather than the reverse. For if you are projecting an energy of openness, that creates a type of portal, which allows them to project energy and generate an interaction.

SCOTT: So, this other focus has disengaged?


SCOTT: I guess that leads to another question: am I in my last focus or am I not?

ELIAS: The designation of a final focus is not necessarily the last focus. Every focus is what you would term to be the last focus, for you do not reincarnate.

SCOTT: Am I in my final focus?

ELIAS: The final focus is a designation of one focus that determines the ending of the participation in this physical dimension, in this physical reality, in which, at that point of disengagement, within a relative time framework, all other focuses in this physical reality of this essence shall also disengage or shall fragment if they are choosing not to be disengaging from this reality. Are you the designated final focus? No.

SCOTT: Can you give me my essence name and my wifeís essence name?

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Vladd, V-L-A-D-D. Essence name for your partner, Davida, D-A-V-I-D-A (dah VEE duh).

SCOTT: Iíve notice that some essence names will reflect either female or male, and that counts as a tone of the essence?


SCOTT: When I was in Chicago, I asked you what my essence name was there and you mentioned that it was Cedric.

ELIAS: Which is fluctuating.

SCOTT: Am I in the middle of a fragmentation?

ELIAS: No. There are different tones that all essences incorporate. Therefore, at times, the tone may fluctuate temporarily and may be associated or translated into a different word, temporarily. Generally speaking, they do fluctuate, in your terms, back to the strongest tone, which would be the most consistent translated word, or what you term to be name.

SCOTT: Well, weíre running out of time, and the last question that I wanted to ask was if Iíve had interaction with you in any way.


SCOTT: When I was reading one of the transcripts, it seemed that it really chimed in with me. Sometimes Iíll see these white lips that I was going to ask you to comment on, but this one seemed blue and was a little larger. I donít know if that was you or not.

ELIAS: Correct, yes. (Laughs)

SCOTT: Are you interactive with my family also, or just me?

ELIAS: Your family, yes.

SCOTT: So, I can be watching for those things and you may be around?

ELIAS: Yes, you may. And so I shall! Ha ha!

SCOTT: I appreciate the interaction today. I think weíre at the end of our hour, and I thank you for your time. I plan on doing this again.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting and your progress report. Ha ha ha!

SCOTT: Iíll have one for you next time.

ELIAS: Very well, and remember, be acknowledging and appreciating. To you in great affection, my friend, and great encouragement, au revoir.

SCOTT: Thank you, Elias.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 1 minute.

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