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Saturday,
October 22, 2011 (Group/Brattleboro, Vermont) “Belief
System of The Creation of Universe / Creation AND Universe” “This
Is It: The Formula For Creating” “Expressing
Your Genuine Self: Passion, No Separation” “All
That You Do Is Actually a Choice” Participants: Mary (Michael),
Aaron (Todd), Ann (Vivette), Ben P., Brigitt, Bruce B., Daniil (Zyn), Hernan (Hernan), Inge, Inna (Beatriz),
Patricia (Liva), Jennifer C., John (Rrussell), Kathleen (Florencia),
Ken D., Ken G. (Marcel), Ken M. (Oba), Lorraine (Kayia),
Lynda (Ruther), Magdalena (Michella), Melissa
(Leah), Natasha (Nicole), Rob, Roberto (Francine), Rodney (Zacharie), Sandra B. (Atafah),
Sid (Calum), Suzanne D., Suzanne B. (Zansa), Veronica (Amadis),
Veronica R., Zena (Amber) (Date/time not recorded.) (Arrival time is 17 seconds.) GROUP: Good afternoon,
Elias! ELIAS: (Chuckling) We
began this new wave with the identification, for the most part, of the first
aspect of it which was addressing to the belief system of senses. And in this
time framework from the announcement of this wave we have been discussing
that aspect of this wave – senses – how affecting they are, how intricate
they are, how absolute they are, and in that, how they are your main avenue
for triggers for associations. We have engaged several conversations in
relation to that subject. If you are all remembering when I introduced this
new wave I expressed to you that there are TWO belief systems being addressed
in this wave in difference to other waves previously. This wave concerns senses
and also the creation of universe. Or creation AND universe. Now; this is the second
aspect of this wave and we have not discussed this aspect of this present
wave. But when this wave began most of you were not quite ready, yet, in
experience to be inputting information in relation to the second aspect of
this present wave, which is creation and the universe. Now you have
incorporated enough time to be experiencing this present wave and paying
attention to senses, but also moving forward in shifting. And many of you are
beginning to experience the second aspect of this particular wave. Now; the point of
shifting and the point of these waves in consciousness are to offer you
avenues in which you will be becoming more aware of self. And in shifting,
one great action that you are engaging is becoming aware of the difference in
identity between attachments and your genuine self, and what your genuine
self is, and therefore, who you are as your genuine self without the
attachments that you are familiar with that you have previously defined
yourself with in relation to who you are. Attachments, as we have
discussed previously, are not expressions that you are necessarily
eliminating for they do serve a purpose in some capacities. We used the
example of independence as one attachment and that there are influences of
that attachment that may be hindering to you, but there are also other
influences that you may choose to continue to engage, that you may actually
appreciate certain aspects of this particular attachment, as with any
attachment. But the point is the recognition of attachments and therefore
generating a new ability to see beyond those attachments that cover your
genuine self in very similar manner to a shell. And in that, the type of
shell of, let us say a snail. The snail generates a
shell which serves a significant purpose, but is the shell actually the
genuine essence of the snail? No. In this, a snail lives within the confines
of the shell and uses the shell for protection and also for storage. And in
that, it benefits the snail, but the snail is very soft and vulnerable within
the shell. You, within yourselves,
incorporate the essence of yourself which is your genuine self, which is
covered by the shell of attachments. Attachments incorporate their uses, but
they are not to be mistaken as your identity for they are not. They are not
who you are. They may influence what you express or what you do, but they are
not who you are. You are moving into a new
direction, a new age, of discovery and expression of your genuine self. And
in that, there are some very significant changes – very significant changes –
that you will incrementally become aware of, and the purpose of this
discussion is to clarify those changes that they may be easier for you to
identify and for you to move through. One very significant
change that is occurring that is different expressed by your genuine self, is
passion. Passion, to this point in your reality - and I’m not merely speaking
of all of you present here, but throughout your history, through the history
of your species as humans - passion has been motivated by outside goals. What
you strive for. What you strive to do. How you motivate yourself to move
farther, regardless of what it is. One passion that you all
share at some point in your existence in this physical reality, commonly,
that you can most obviously identify is sexual. You understand sexual energy.
You understand sexual passion. You know what that is. You know what it feels.
And you may think that that is not motivated by goals. Oh yes it is. Even in
the act of engaging sexual activity with yourself or
with other individuals, in any capacity, it is goal-oriented. You are
striving for a particular outcome, a particular feeling, a particular
sensation. And in that the point is goal is defined by what you do not
already possess. There is no point in striving if you already possess, even
in a simple passion such as sexual energy. You do not already possess a
climax. Therefore, you strive to express it! And to experience it and to feel
it. This is merely an obvious, easy example. Even your
most holiest of monks and priests that deny all physical attachments are
goal-oriented. They strive for nirvana. They strive for enlightenment. They
strive for heaven. This is an expression that you have developed throughout
the history of your species. You are always striving for what you perceive
you do not already possess. Now; this is a very
different and immense change that is occurring, for in the recognition of
genuine self and in the being of genuine self and expressing from that beingness, you know you already possess all. Therefore,
the passion and the motivation is not goal-oriented.
It is generated very differently. It is not the attainment of what you do not
have, or what you do not possess, or what you have not expressed yet. It is
the movement and the choices of expressing any passion in new manners or in
whatever manner you choose. But the point is that the passion exists, but in
a very different capacity. And it is expressed, but also in a very different
capacity. This is creating. This is creation. And this is your universe. The
formula for creating is very simple. And this is the basis of your genuine
self. And the formula includes three components: you project energy, you
reflect energy, and you either react to the reflection or you choose in
relation to the reflection. This is the formula. This is the basis of your
genuine self. This is the other belief system, creation and your universe.
For all of your universe has sprung from each of
you, individually, differently, in configuration, similar, but not all the
same. And each expression of your universe has been projected long before you
see it by what you projected in energy first. Now; the reason this is
so very much important is this is the manner in which you create your
reality. If you want the secret to how you create your reality it is this
formula. This is it. And in this formula, the most difficult aspect is the
projecting or the awareness of the projecting. The projecting is easy, you do
it continuously. Every moment you are projecting energy. Knowing or being
aware of what type of energy you are projecting in any moment is not as easy
for it is very unfamiliar to you. It is not hidden from you, for you have
created this marvelous design in your reality in which every moment that you
project you are reflecting. Therefore, the reflection of what you are doing
is always in front of you. How you pay attention to that reflection is
questionable. What you do with that reflection is the tricky aspect, for what
you generally do with most reflections is react to them! Now; let me also clarify.
In many times, your reactions are not necessarily what you would perceive to
be bad. They are automatic reactions. Let me offer a very
simple example. If you choose to travel a short distance to a specific
designation and you choose to engage a vehicle of some type. An automobile, a
train, it matters not. Long before you leave your home you have already
projected energy to configure interacting with your mode of transportation.
If you are engaging an automobile it will be physically in the location you
expect it to be. When you enter it and you place your key in the ignition and
you turn the key, for the most part, you will engage the engine in the manner
that you expect it to be engaged for you have already projected that energy
for those actions to occur. Once the engine engages you have reflected what
you projected and you react by driving the vehicle. Those are reactions. You
are not intentionally objectively aware of choosing to engage the vehicle.
You merely do it. You are reacting to your senses in relation to the vehicle,
the energy that you projected, and the reflection that occurred. Now; let us change this
simple scenario slightly. You leave your home. You move to your vehicle. You
enter it. You place the key in the ignition and it does NOT engage the
engine. And it generates a strange sound. And you are conflicted and baffled.
And you react again, but in a different manner. Now you react in frustration,
or irritation, or confusion, and you begin thinking, and you are anticipating
your destination, and the time framework, and you begin to include many, many
other ideas and feelings that are now changing your energy more. You were
already projecting an energy that included some type of agitation that
affected the reflection to engage a malfunction with the vehicle. You were
already projecting that. Now you compound that and you begin projecting a
more agitated energy and likely speaking, from that point, your day will
include significant challenges, or many small challenges, but it will be a
series of challenges, for you are already projecting that energy of
dissatisfaction. Within that day, for the
most part, do you think to yourself, do you evaluate, “My first reflection
was with the vehicle and it was not functioning in the manner that I
expected. What was I doing before I engaged the vehicle?” Generally, no.
Generally, you continue with your day and you continue to meet each
reflection in a manner that includes some type of agitation. Now; you can approach
this formula from one end or from the other end - the beauty of this formula.
You can approach this formula from the end to the beginning or from the
beginning to the end. You can pay attention to your reactions and evaluate
what you are reacting to in the reflection and thereby begin to evaluate what
you were projecting that created that reflection. Or you can approach the
formula from the other direction and you can pay attention to what you are
doing, and therefore what you are projecting, and therefore not be surprised
by the reflection, and choose what you do in relation to the reflection. There are two components
of paying attention to what type of energy you are projecting. It is a matter
of paying attention to what you are doing and what you are feeling in the
moment. Not either of those exclusively. If you are only paying attention to
what you are feeling you are likely to offer yourself misinformation. If you
are only paying attention to what you are doing, once again, you are likely
to offer yourself misinformation. It is only the combination of these two
expressions that offers you accurate information in relation to what your
energy is doing. Now; there are also two
aspects to what you are feeling. There is the what
you are feeling now in this moment in relation to what you are doing
physically. And what is the underlying feeling? What is the ongoing feeling
that may be occurring? This is directly related to associations. In my previous group
interaction I explained that there is a difference between now-feelings and
then-feelings. Then-feelings are the feelings that accompany associations.
And with some then-feelings, some associations are different than other
associations, which we discussed. Within certain time
frameworks of your physical lifetime, your physical focus, there is a period
of time from birth through – not to, but through – adolescence. This time framework
you generate associations and experiences differently than you do within the
rest of your existence in one focus, for you have not yet developed
attachments in those ages. In not having attachments yet, you are generating
more from the perspective of genuine self. How many of you are familiar – all
of you – with adolescents and how difficult they may be in your perceptions?
And if you have not encountered other individuals as adolescents you know
yourselves as adolescents, and all of the qualities that are ascribed to
being an adolescent. And in that, you are within a point of your existence
that you are developing and moving closer to adopting and developing
attachments, but you have not yet. This is the reason that individuals within
those years of existence are so volatile, that they express such intensity of
feelings, but are desperately attempting to function and to behave as if they
had attachments. They are moving close to them, but they have not developed
them yet. In all of those years of
your existence your body consciousness mechanism to alert you to danger or
threat is expressed in a manner that is more obvious and more intense, for it
is the little snail without the shell. Therefore, any danger to the shell, to
the snail without the shell, is perceived to be much more
grave than with the shell. Those experiences,
those memories, those associations are held differently in the body
consciousness than other associations. They are held surfacely,
therefore they are easily triggered. They are, in a manner of speaking –
regardless of whether you objectively recall the associations or the
experiences, it matters not – the memory is held in the body consciousness in
a very surface manner which creates a vulnerability. When you generate
experiences in that time framework before you have developed attachments, you
carry those associations with you. And they are very easily triggered. And
they are triggered considerably, repeatedly, throughout your lifetime. And
the one most significant manner in which they are triggered, for the most
part the only manner in which they are triggered, is through one of your
senses. Any of your senses. Your senses are continuously inputting
information every minute of your existence, regardless of whether you are
waking or sleeping, your senses are always inputting information. And that
information triggers these surface memories. Once again, regardless of
whether you recall objectively those memories or not, they are being
triggered. In this, they influence you in how you create whatever you are
creating in your reality. In this, this is that aspect of the formula, the
two parts of what you feel. There is what you feel now in relation to what
you are doing now, but also the inclusion of what you are feeling in relation
to old associations that are very present. Therefore, evaluating
what type of energy you are projecting is a matter of paying attention to
what you are doing outwardly and what you are doing inwardly. What you are
doing inwardly is what you are feeling and what you are engaging, not
necessarily what you are thinking. For in relation to feelings, thinking can
be very distorted. Thinking is a translating
mechanism. In translating it always seeks information to translate. If it has
no new information it will seek out old information to translate and repeat
it. Therefore, it may not be accurate in relation to what you are actually
doing. But the feelings are very
real and they may not be overt or extreme. They may be very subtle, but they
are present, and they exist. Paying attention to these feelings is an
important part to evaluate what type of energy you are generating in the
moment and therefore, what you are affecting in your reality, what you are
creating. Another factor in this,
which is a part of expressing from genuine self, is the dropping of this
expression of separation that you automatically express between what is
outside of you and what is within you. There is no separation between what
you project and what you reflect. Therefore, there is also no separation
between what is outside of you and what you are doing inside of you. This is
another significant change and can be very challenging for you are very
accustomed to viewing whatever is outside of you as being outside of you and
different and not the same as what is inside of you. And it is not different.
It is merely the physical projection of what you are doing, what you are
expressing, and whatever you directly engage in your reality, regardless of
what it is. This room that you are presently occupying, for each one of you,
before you stepped into this room you already projected energy to configure
it and you personalized it. You placed your signature upon it. Therefore, it
reflects precisely in every minute detail, to every thread in the rug, to
every grain in the wood, to every aspect of the room, you personally
configured in detail in creating that reflection of what you have projected. Now; in like manner,
surrounding this room that you occupy, that you have personally each created,
there are many other structures, other buildings, other configurations of
manifestations. You are aware of them. They exist. Whether you are paying
attention to them or not, they exist. But in a manner of speaking,
figuratively, they are somewhat of a blur. They exist, but they are
periphery, for you are not personally engaging them. Therefore, it is not
necessary for you to be entirely detailed. You may in your reality create the
façade of a building and not necessarily project the detailed energy of what
is included inside of the building. It exists in your reality, but it is not
as detailed as what you are actually physically engaging. But that physical
manifestation, such as this room, was created before you even arrived. You
already projected the energy whether you incorporate a thinking idea of its
appearance, or not, it matters not. You so effectively and efficiently
projected that energy to create the room, the building, in every minute
detail, that when you enter it, it is all formed. And it matters not whether
you are personally engaging an aspect of your reality in a physical location,
or a picture, or a song. It matters not. You are personally engaging that in
the moment, and therefore you have created its history. You have created its
configuration. What, how it appears. What occurs with it.
You have created all of it. There is no separation between what is outside of
you and what is inside of you. Yes, you interact with
other individuals, and you are all interconnected, and you each generate your
own choices, and you do not create other individuals’ realities, but you do
create the image of every other individual within this room. You aren’t
creating them, but you are creating your own image of them, your version of
them. And yes, they are interacting with you. But you have projected,
already, an energy to specifically include those
specific particular individuals in your interaction in each moment rather
than fifty other individuals. You have specifically drawn those particular
individuals to be interacting with. You can choose between billions of
individuals. You have chosen these, each one. You have projected an energy and attracted, or drawn like a magnet, those
energies that match and those are the other individuals present. In all of
their differences, in all of their expressions, in all of their different
forms, they each match what you projected, and therefore they are present for
you drew them. There is not one aspect
of your reality that you have not already projected before you even engage
it. This is creation. This is how it operates. This is how it functions. This
is what you do without even thinking. You do it automatically, easily. It is
not difficult. Did you think to yourselves of every individual in this room
and visualize every single form? No. Was it effort for you to create all of
these different individuals? Was it an effort to construct the building? No.
You merely did it. And I hear so very often how difficult it is to create my
reality! (Laughter) You do it continuously with no thought and no effort. And
how difficult it is to create what I want in my reality (with mock anguish).
Use your own examples. How easy is it for you to create what you do not want?
You create that very easily and very powerfully. At times you may even be
miserable in relation to what you do not want that you created with no effort
and no thinking. And you can create what you do want as easily and with as
little thinking. It is merely a matter of being aware of what you are doing
and paying attention to what you are expressing. That is the key. Now; I will also express
to you that another factor in creating your reality being expressed from
genuine self, as it is not goal-oriented, a
significant change is the recognition that all that you do is actually a
choice. And one choice is not necessarily better than another choice if it
accomplishes what you want to experience. It is your beliefs, your
experiences, your associations that shape that idea
of what is a better experience and what is not a better experience. What
choice is a better choice to accomplish what you want, and what choice is not
very good? In actuality, it matters not. A choice is a choice, and if it
accomplishes what you want, it matters not. It is your guidelines that decide
whether it is good or bad. I’m not advocating
anarchy (Laughter), but I am expressing a point that expressing from the
genuine self, many of those lines of rigidness, what you consider to be
better or worse, are very blurred for you are not operating from that
perspective. You are not concerning yourself with what is right, or what is
wrong, or what I should or should not. Those are goal-oriented. You are
concerning yourself more with who am I and what do I want to express? And how
do I want to express in any capacity? What is interesting to me? What is my
curiosity? What do I want to explore? And in that, exploration
is generally not a consideration of whether it is right or wrong. It is an
exploration. You are discovering. How can you evaluate what is right or wrong
if you do not know what it is? If you are discovering it you have not
generated an association yet. What is an association? That evaluation of an
experience that includes a judgment of good or bad. Is this experience good
or is this experience bad? Is it comfortable or uncomfortable? That is an
association. You do not have an association for what you have not
experienced. It is new. It is a discovery. This is the perspective of genuine
self. The newness even within what is known. It is always an expansion. It is
the new. In that, this aspect of
this present wave – creation and the universe – you are the universe and you
are continuously creating. And you shall be creating very differently very
soon. You are stepping your toes into your ocean, embarking upon the new
journey to traverse the ocean. But all you have engaged thus far are your
toes and you have an immense, vast expanse in front of you to explore. And in
that exploration it is important to know what you are setting into. What is
the new adventure? And the new adventure is expressing creation and how you
develop your universe. What will it be? How will it be configured? How will
it be expressed? What new stars will you discover? What new nebulas? And what
new expressions in interaction with each other in recognition of your interconnectedness,
which becomes not a threat any longer, but an expression to be embraced and
appreciated for it is support. For the more you embrace that
interconnectedness the more you bring to you supportiveness and you are not
alone. And we shall break, and
you may incorporate your questions at our return. (Arrival time is 15
seconds.) ELIAS: Continuing. Now we
shall open to your questions. PATRICIA: You were
talking for a while previously about it being important that you choose what
is most beneficial to you. And now you are kind of changing it a little bit
with lessening the good/bad evaluation. But beneficial would be an evaluation
of good. ELIAS: Not necessarily. PATRICIA JEN: Can you
speak to that, because I don’t understand how that works together? ELIAS: What can be
beneficial is the expression of your passion or your interests or your
curiosity. It is not necessarily good or bad. Remember it is not
goal-oriented. Therefore, it is not necessarily good or bad. In this, it can
even be some expression that you would think of as bad. Engaging a choice
that you are aware of may be difficult, or may engage some conflict, but you
are engaging that choice intentionally for it is beneficial in some capacity
and you are already aware of it. PATRICIA JEN: Meaning
like to move through some kind of issue or challenge, that you intentionally
engage things? You know it’s going to be difficult, but that it’s going to be
worthwhile, although that’s goal-oriented, too. ELIAS: In a manner of
speaking, but not from the perspective of the goal-orientation. It is not in
relation to an outcome. It is more in relation to the engagement of the
process. Goal-orientation is focused upon an outcome, regardless of what it
is. In expressing from genuine self there is no necessity for outcome for you
already possess all and you know it, but you have not necessarily generated
the experiences within this physical realm, so to speak. Therefore, it is a
choice to generate an experience in exploration without concern for the
outcome, but more focused upon the experience and the process of it, the
engagement itself, rather than what the outcome is. Let me express in further
explanation to that that you may understand. You may in part be generating a
painting in relation to a goal-orientation, the finished product. But you
also generate another aspect of that action in which you are very involved in
the process and you are not concentrating upon the outcome and you are not
concerned with what the outcome is. You are more concerned with paying
attention to the process and the creation itself, rather than what it will
become. PATRICIA JEN: Okay. But
within, and this I think will kind of wrap it up, but I guess when I think of
defining for myself what is beneficial, and that is being talked about
broadly, for everyone, to be able to define then what is beneficial for
yourself. Can you speak to how you can better define for yourself what
beneficial is? ELIAS: Beneficial would
be the action of the experience in relation to what is important to you.
Defining what is important to you defines what your interest and curiosity
is. Interest and curiosity are the motivation for exploring and expanding.
And in that it is that process of expanding and exploring, not necessarily
the outcome of it, but the action of it itself in that expansion and that is
defined by each individual in relation to what is important to you. What is
your curiosity? What is your passion? What is your interest? And generating
those processes, those experiences, and those explorations are your benefit. PATRICIA JEN: Okay. Thank
you. ELIAS: You are welcome. RODNEY: Elias. (cell
phone rings, someone sneezes) I’m sorry. Elias, my head’s kind of swimming
with these concepts at the moment. ELIAS: (Chuckles) Not
surprising! I would be surprised if any of you are not experiencing some
aspect of that at this point. RODNEY: And the fact that
I have not suitably drugged myself today. ELIAS: Ah! RODNEY: With nicotine and
so forth. (Laughter, someone sneezes) But, I kind of get... And I’m just kind
of looking for some validation, I guess. I’ve spent a period of time now
looking at the fact that I’m not motivated, that I’ve got a problem with...
I’ve even looked at passion and interest, and what do I do? And what I hear
you saying is that this is kind of like a period of approaching what you’re
saying. ELIAS: Yes. RODNEY: Which is you’re
now totally responsible for creating your own interests, your own passion. ELIAS: Correct. RODNEY: Your own
curiosity. ELIAS: Correct. RODNEY: This feeling of
being lost... ELIAS: Is the in-between. RODNEY: ...is the
in-between. It’s kind of like losing all of that outside goal-oriented stuff. ELIAS: Yes, and this is
very common presently. RODNEY: It’s big time for
me. ELIAS: For it is a
temporary state that you may define as that in-between. You have not actually
accessed entirely, or fully, your genuine self, and therefore you have not
explored your passions and interests and curiosities from genuine self
perspective. And you are letting go, so to speak, of the passions and
interests and curiosities that are influenced by attachments. What you have
learned. What you have been taught. What you have experienced. Those are the
foundations of attachments, and in that, you are moving away from those being
a part of your identity and therefore also being a part of your motivation,
your interest, your curiosity, your passion. They are no longer part of your
genuine self and therefore they are also not motivating in those directions.
Those are the old familiar. In a manner of speaking, you are putting them
aside. You are not eliminating them. You can access them when you want to
access them, but they are not your central focal point. They are not your
identity. And in that, yes, there is a transitional time framework and this
is the reason we are engaging this discussion, for you are entering into this
transitional period, so to speak, in which you do notice a lack of
motivation, a lack of interest, a lack of passion, a lack of curiosity, for
those motivations are changing. RODNEY: Yeah, well, like
I caught myself the other day just wondering, how do I even know what I’m
interested in? ELIAS: Correct! RODNEY: How do I discern
that? How do I discover that? ELIAS: Yes. And the
automatic action is to revert to those attachments. RODNEY: Right. ELIAS: And to seek out
new motivations, or passions, or interests within the construct of those
attachments, for that is what you know. That is what is familiar. And
therefore you move your attention once again to what you have been taught,
what you have learned, what you have experienced, and you attempt to draw
upon that to spark a motivation, to spark an interest. But it is ineffectual
for you are dipping your toe into that ocean now and with that you have
created the onset of putting aside the attachments and moving into the
expression of genuine self. And there is an aspect of what you would term to
be floundering. What I would express to
you all in this time framework of the in-between, of the adjustment, or the
transformation - relax. Do not push yourselves. Do not attempt to seek out an
interest. Allow yourself to use your experiences previous as an example. Did
you seek out an interest previously? No. You develop them. Information is
presented to you and you either receive it and
generate an interest, or you do not. You do not necessarily seek out what is
curious to you. You present it to yourself and you act in relation to that
presentment. You present ideas, subjects to yourself, and you evaluate. Am I
interested? You do not necessarily think in those terms, but that is the
process that you engage. Does this interest me? And you evaluate, yes or no,
if it does or if it does not. In a very similar manner,
as you move more into the expression of your genuine self you will present
yourself with motivations, with ideas, with curiosities and interests. They
will be more sparked by imagination than by attained information. RODNEY: I find myself
naturally drawn to be curious about new ideas in the world of physics,
energy. Somebody just invented a camera. It’s a small thing. You take a
picture and you focus it after you get home. It’s crazy. It’s just wild.
Anybody knows anything about photography, I mean, that’s really, really,
really unusual. I bring that up because is that a natural? I say that’s a
natural thing with me. ELIAS: Yes. RODNEY: But is that an
attachment? ELIAS: No. You can
associate it with attachments, but the inner curiosity, the rawness of the
curiosity is not. It is an expression of the genuine self. There are many,
many expressions that you all generate that incorporate a grain of genuine
self in them that you already express. RODNEY: But we’ve got to
know the difference between? ELIAS: Not necessarily
for it is a process and a movement that is occurring naturally. One of the facets of the
process that you notice most obviously is this building lack of motivation,
this building expression that you are disinterested in many of the subjects
that you have been interested in. Many of the subjects that you have
expressed great passion in do not seem to spark that passion any longer. That
is your indicator you are moving, you are shifting, you
are expanding your awareness. In that, in the in-between state, so to speak,
it is important not to fight with yourselves, not to oppose yourselves. Allow
yourselves to merely relax and trust. You will
continue to move. You do continue to move. Regardless of your own evaluation,
you are continuing to shift. You are continuing to progress. You are
generating the process and you will generate new motivations, and interests,
and curiosities. And some of those may be very similar to old curiosities, or
interests, or passions, but they’re expressed differently. In this, yes, for
a time framework in each individual it will be expressed differently. You may
feel yourself, in a manner of speaking, floundering and being uncertain. RODNEY: Ha! My life
story! (Laughter) ELIAS: And in that it is
very important to not fight with it and push yourself
to create a passion. I must have one! (Laughter) Therefore, I will invent
one. (Laughter) It is not necessary. And when you do that, what you do in
actuality is lengthen the time framework of that in-between, for you are
fighting with it, not allowing it to flow, and the more you fight with it,
the more you dam the stream. (1) RODNEY: Okay. ELIAS: Therefore, relax.
Stop judging yourselves in that you are not doing. And let me also express,
this is a trap – concentrating upon what you are not accomplishing, and what
you are not doing, or what you did not do, or what you did not accomplish.
This is a trap. It sets you in a direction of energy to not accomplish. And
it sets you in an energy projection of lack. It is important to tip those
scales differently of what you are accomplishing, what you have done,
regardless of what it is in each day. And let me express to
you, with any new action initially it may require some effort and paying
attention. But very quickly, if you continue, it becomes habit. And then it
requires no effort and very little concentration. You do it automatically.
You replace the automatic evaluation of what you did not do or what you did
not accomplish, with what you did do, and what you did accomplish, or what
was satisfying to you. And in that, just as simple and small or insignificant
as you immediately identify what you dislike. A smell; “I do not like that
smell.” A color; “I dislike that color intensely.” A movement; “I hate that
movement!” You do this very automatically. You generate these evaluations
very automatically. You do not think of how that is affecting what energy you
are projecting. And just as easily and automatically those evaluations can be
replaced with, “I am very attracted to that smell; that color is very
pleasing to me or soothing to me; I’m enjoying this sandwich immensely.” It
is a simple action and it seems insignificant, but it is powerful in energy. RODNEY: Okay. Thank you. ELIAS: You are welcome.
Yes? KEN G.: Yes, Elias. You
have expressed a few times, and this may seem like a diversion but I’m going
to try to bring it back into the conversation, you’ve expressed a few times
that certain individuals are now disengaging with the purpose of aiding in
the accomplishment of the shift. I guess this might be a few questions, but
I’ll try to keep it simple. I have a friend who recently disengaged and I
very strongly feel that he is one of these individuals. I don’t really need a
confirmation on that. I feel this is true. I’m wondering, first of all, how
is their experience of disengagement different, and it doesn’t
have to be a lengthy explanation, from someone who is simply just disengaging
to come back or not to be reincarnated? But how is it, in other words, if
they’re intentionally going to help? How is their experience of disengaging?
Are they put right to work in some way, or are they immediately helping upon disengagement?
Have they already transitioned to a point which, previous to their
disengagement, that they’re ready? And how are they helping? Can we perceive
their help? ELIAS: It is not an
action in the capacity that you are thinking. KEN G.: Okay. ELIAS: You are
designating this idea of helpfulness as being a specific action that is
engaged to do something that will be helpful. Mass disengagements, as we have
spoken of previously, generally if they are designated as a helpful action,
are generated as a statement, not that once they have disengaged they are
generating any specific action in relation to your physical reality, but that
they have in their disengagement generated an action to generate a statement.
Individuals that choose to be disengaging in relation to this shift, in many
capacities what they are engaging is more associated
with what they are not doing by participating physically. In not
participating physically they may be aiding in the movement of the shift more
smoothly or more quickly for they are not opposing it, or they are not
generating conflicting actions that will be hindrances. Therefore, the
removal of themself from the participation of the
collective within your reality is helpful for it is what they are not doing
that is important. It is not a matter that individuals disengage and from
that point they engage some action to help you. No, that is not the point.
Even individuals that disengage to be an inspiration are being helpful in
that action of death, not subsequent to death, but in the action of death.
They are being helpful as being an inspiration or as being a removal of
conflict or opposition. KEN G.: Now was this the
case in the case of my friend? Not to get too personal, was this the case in
his case [inaudible]? ELIAS: Which? KEN G.: That my friend
who recently disengaged, is this the case that he removed himself in order to
be helpful, but through the inspiration of his removal? ELIAS: Yes. KEN G.: Okay, this is
what I felt because I was intimately involved in this. My other question is
so this means that they are not indeed just floating off and becoming
guardian angels. ELIAS: No. KEN G.: And performing
actions. ELIAS: No. KEN G.: Does this ever
occur? Are there ever people who… Or for example, yourself, who have
disengaged and now returning to communicate… Do some individuals... What was
your experience? (Laughter) How did you decide to come back and aid? ELIAS: That would be very
similar to what we have been discussing, a genuine passion that is being
expressed in relation to myself. The outcome is unimportant. The process is
all important. The engagement of all of you is important. How you respond to
it is your choice. What you do in relation to the information that I offer
from this perspective, is also unimportant. What is important is that it is
my passion and the involvement in the expression of that passion and the
curiosity of a source event, a master source event, which has rarely been
expressed and accomplished in physical realms. And therefore there is a
genuine curiosity as to how it accomplishes and how you will choose to
configure it. And offering information from a different perspective to be
helpful, but without an agenda and without a goal, for it is your choice
whether you receive it or not. In that, time is very
different in some non-physical areas of consciousness. In some areas, there
is no time. But in those areas of consciousness non-physically in which there
is time, it is configured very differently and is much more pliable. And
therefore at my disengagement from this reality, engaging that choice is not
that you become unaware of any physical reality. And at that point of
remembrance of death, and therefore the point of recognition of non-physical
reality, there is an opportunity to generate a choice in a myriad of
directions. And it is merely dependent upon the very same as what we are
discussing and what you are moving into in physical focus. It is a choice of
passion and curiosity and interest. In this, as I have
expressed many times in relation to this shift, there are many aspects of
this shift that you are accomplishing that, for the most part within physical
realms, within physical realities, has not been accomplished to this point,
for you are thinning those veils of separation so tremendously that what your
objective is in this shift is to be expressing within physical focus much
more in likeness to how you express outside of physical focus, but
maintaining a physical reality. You are not creating
utopia, as I have expressed. You are not creating paradise. You are creating
an immensely expanded awareness to be experiencing physical reality, but from
the perspective of a much grander awareness that is much more likened to
non-physical awareness, within the construct of a physical reality. I have expressed many
times, you have explored this physical reality for millennia, thousands and
thousands and thousands and thousands of years. And beyond your exploration
of physical reality in this blink of thousands and thousands of years of this
physical reality of your planet of your universe, you have expressed many,
many, many, many more thousands of years in other blinks exploring in very
similar capacity to this blink. You are bored. You have developed beyond the
confines of this physical reality and this is the reason you chose to be
inserting this master source event, this shift, into your reality and
altering your reality and the construct of it considerably. Not entirely
changing it - maintaining the base elements of your belief systems, of your
base elements of sexuality and emotion, the physical expression - you are not
changing that, but you are changing considerable more aspects in how you
engage that design in a very different capacity now. KEN G.: It does feel that
way. ELIAS: For it is.
(Chuckles) KEN G.: I guess I was
mistaken about my friend a little bit. But I’m just curious, there was one
small incident where a feather appeared, where it physically never should
have according to all “scientific [inaudible]” and the like. Was he involved
in that or is that something that I and my friend manifested together? ELIAS: Both. KEN G.: Thank you. DANIIL: The passion of
the focus versus the passion of the essence, right, I know that the focus is
the essence… ELIAS: There is no
distinction! (Strongly and distinctly) (Laughs) DANIIL: Exactly, yeah.
Every focus is essence. ELIAS: Yes. DANIIL: And being an
integral part of the essence will realize their passion, but each one will
have slightly different passions. ELIAS: Yes. DANIIL: And yet, it fits
somehow in the overall essence passion, would you say? Or? ELIAS: There is no
distinction. That was the point of this conversation this day. There is no
difference between the outer and the inner. Therefore, there is no difference
between you as a focus and you as essence just as there is no separation to
different entities of objective and subjective awareness. They are not
separate. They are not different entities. You as essence is not a different
entity from you as who you are in this focus. It is the same. In a manner of
speaking, what you are doing in this shift is you are cracking the shell and
peeling it away to radiate that, that you are as essence in a physical
reality. DANIIL: Okay, so one
focus that is musician, and one who is a scientist, and one who is, I don’t
know, a hockey player. They all feel more and more united as part of the
whole [inaudible]. ELIAS: Yes. DANIIL: Which will be deeper expression of essence. ELIAS: Yes. DANIIL: Okay. And I have
a quick follow-up question, now that most of us are in-between. ELIAS: Yes. DANIIL: Not quite
confident what our passions are in what is a decision to make. Like, my boss
comes to me and asks, well, what do you like to do? Do you want to do this or
that? Do you want to be manager? Do you want to be an architect or something
like that? How do we make that decision without pushing ourselves in any
direction? ELIAS: In those types of
choices (2) , you are in many aspects engaging
attachments, but I would express in the same manner that it is a matter of
paying attention to your energy, what are you doing? What are you doing, what
are you feeling, simultaneously? And in that, expressing not from gain, but
from what you genuinely want, not what it gains you to generate a choice, but
what is comfortable in generating a choice. There are many choices that are
motivated by gain. And in that, you may be comfortable with the gain.
Therefore, it’s not black and white, but not only for gain. DANIIL: Now comfort
doesn’t equal curiosity, right? So, does curiosity have a role of leading you
beyond the comfort? ELIAS: Yes. Correct. At
times. At times you will let go of comfort to explore curiosity or even
interest. And even passion at times will motivate you to put aside comfort,
but you are doing that intentionally. You know that you are doing that. JOHN: I have a question. RODNEY: Okay. Fingers off
the buttons. (Laughter) JOHN: Okay. I was just
struck by your analogy, right, about the ocean and dipping your toes in the
water. And then this morning I went for a swim, and I sort of did the same
thing at the pool. I dipped my toes in the water, and I just kind of jumped
in and went for a swim. And it was quite nice, and it happened very quickly.
And it’s more of a general question, but I know that we’ve engaged a number
of waves to date. In fact we’ve engaged the majority of them, and we only
have two left, which means all of the waves are over, presumably, in about
five or six years, whatever the time framework might be. What sort of happens
next? Where is the shift sort of going? ELIAS: I can respond to
that in two manners. One, the obvious, you move in the direction that you choose.
(Laughter) But I would express that the point of these waves has been to
allow you to explore. Shall I pause? MALE: Yes, could you? ELIAS: Very well.
(Laughter) MALE: Thanks, I can stop
taping this. (Laughter) RODNEY: You have to tell
Elias to stop going. MALE: Okay. RODNEY: Something you’re
not accustomed to doing. ELIAS: (Chuckling) I am
aware of your practices. (Laughs.) PATRICIA: Can you sing us
a song in the meantime? (Laughter) ELIAS: Can I or will I? (Laughter and talking) (Video recording resumes) ELIAS: Very well. In
this, the point of these waves is to allow you all an opportunity to
collectively address to each belief system and their influences, and what
they are, and what they mean, for this is a foundational aspect of your
reality in this physical reality and therefore it is important that you are
aware of what your design of your own reality is. This has been collectively
chosen to engage each belief system in a wave of consciousness that you
support and aid each other in your own movement by rippling and connecting
with other individuals, even if you are not actually physically engaging
other individuals. It matters not. You are generating contributions in energy
to the whole, so to speak, that all individuals can become more aware of the
design of your own reality and therefore increase your ability to manipulate
your reality in manners that you prefer. In this, once you are
finished or completed with any of these waves, you have accomplished the
point and it is merely a matter of further exploring but with a greater and
more expanded awareness of what you are exploring and how your beliefs
interplay with that. I would express that even to this point there are many
of you that continue to express the direction, regardless of what you say, of
wanting to eliminate beliefs and viewing them as the enemy or as some
tremendous hindrance to you. Therefore, this is a significant point also,
moving into an awareness that your beliefs are not
your enemy, and that you have chosen to participate in this physical reality
with that design. Therefore, it is not a matter of the limitation, but rather
expanding your awareness to expand your curiosity and your interest of how to
manipulate them differently. Not to eliminate them. Not to change them. But
how can you manipulate in a physical reality that incorporates belief systems
and efficiently and effectively create what you want to create in your own
individual explorations? Once you have finished or
completed these waves, your awareness at that point, I would express, would
be expanded enough that you can begin more of the new adventure of how to be
engaging them very differently than you are accustomed to now. Therefore once
again, not a goal to complete - these waves - but a part of the process. They
are your springboard. You expressed that you engaged a swim in like manner to
a springboard of a pool. They are that function, these waves. They are the
springboard to launch you into the greater exploration, the more expanded
exploration, not viewing your beliefs as a hindrance or as an obstacle, but
allowing you to move into that expanded water with a thrust. JOHN: Thank you. ELIAS: You are welcome.
Yes. Ken D.: Elias, I have a
two-part question, if I might. As you speak of the deeper shifts and the
waves, and the source fueling inner and outer as being the same, and there is
an interior consciousness shift, and there’s also shifts that occur in the
non-physical and physical realities. And so I want to try to talk about a
physical reality that is perceived to be planetary [inaudible]. Okay? And
what your insight on this is in the outer because it reflects the inner. Today is October 22,
2011. There are about seventeen different prophecies upon the earth that
speak of fourteen months from now, of December 21, 2012, as huge shift on the
earth plane in the physical reality, which would permeate deeper shifts in
the non-physical consciousness reality. And can you speak of any knowledge
and awareness you have about these things which may or may not occur on the
physical plane not this December, but a year from now? ELIAS: I will. What I
would express to you is that there is a considerable accumulation of energy
in relation to that time framework. I would also express to you that that is
not necessarily a designation of an event. There is an accumulation of energy
which can be configured in a myriad of capacities which have not been chosen
yet. As to your prophecies,
the danger with prophecies is that they do not allow for choice. That they
suppose that there is a predestination or fate that
has been previously chosen or decided upon, which also implies that
probabilities are already generated and that you are choosing from a
storehouse of already created probabilities. And as I have expressed
previously, probabilities are created in the moment. They do not lie before
you. They are all created in the moment. Yes, they all generate a
considerable ripple and expand through consciousness. Whatever you choose
generates a probability and that expands in countless ripples which is
affecting in consciousness. And I will concede that there is a considerable
amount or volume of energy that has been projected, and a concentration in
relation to that time framework and those ideas. For that is what prophecies
are, they are ideas. They are speculative ideas. They are not absolute and
they are not necessarily correct or true. But they are expressions of ideas
that individuals have set forth in relation to their beliefs and in part in
relation to tapping into different expressions of energies that they form to
suit the idea. And therein is born a prophecy. When prophecies are
actualized it is an action that the majority of individuals participating in
your reality have chosen agreement with that idea. Not that it was foreseen,
but that an idea was developed and supported by an attraction of energies to
be formed or to be plied to that idea. And when enough individuals, when
there is a great enough collective that agree with the idea, they actualize
it. You actualize it, collectively. And therefore it appears that a prophecy
was foreseen and was true, but that is not the mechanism of what occurs. In relation to the
prophecies that have been set forth, and in relation to the Mayan
civilization, there is tremendous misunderstanding and misinterpretation from
the actual participants in that civilization and culture. You have developed
upon their ideas and their culture yourselves and have expanded it. And what
you have expanded was not actually expressed in that particular culture. In
that, you have developed ideas and set them forth and have molded energy to
conform to those ideas. And you have accumulated a considerable volume of
energy in relation to these prophecies, this time framework. But what I will also
express to you, that in shifting – and the entirety of your world is
shifting, whether they are aware of it or not – in shifting you are becoming
more and more aware of reality. What does that mean? It means that any idea
or concept that is set forth, or even prophecy, is not as blindly accepted as
it has been previously within your history. And even in some situations in
which individuals may actually agree with the idea, they may not necessarily
be projecting energy in that direction. Therefore, they may not be choosing
to participate in any particular mass creation. What I am expressing to
you is that with the awareness of the masses now and in relation to the
progression of this shift in consciousness, the energy collectively is very split. And therefore I will reiterate as I have expressed
previously, to this point you have not chosen any significant mass event or
catastrophic event to be occurring within that time framework. You have not
actually chosen any direction to be marking that particular time framework
with any great significance at this point. That can change. In the manner in
which energy is moving presently it is unlikely that it will change, but it
can, and you can choose in any time framework what you want to express en
masse. You are already doing
that. You are already consistently generating considerable upheaval within
your planet in many, many different capacities. But you are also becoming
accustomed to that upheaval. It is not as shocking any longer as it has been
in the past. You are more accustomed to the expression of drama for you
engage so much of it in shifting. And therefore it is not surprising to you
any longer and it is not as catastrophic as it has been in prior time
frameworks prior to the onset of this shift. It is not that you are becoming
desensitized, but that you are aware of what is occurring. And therefore when
you generate upheaval it is not as much of a surprise to any of you and
therefore holds much less impact than it has in previous time frameworks. Therefore I would express
to you, in a manner of speaking, you are almost moving in the reverse
expression of what the prophecies express for you are generating more
awareness and less reaction. Without the reaction, catastrophe is not so catastrophous. (Laughter) In this, it is not as traumatic
and shocking if there is not tremendous surprise and reaction. The surprise
is ruined, (Laughter) for you all know of the prophecies. You are all
anticipating the time framework, therefore there is no surprise. The trauma
or the shock is tremendously diminished for you are all generating greater
and greater awarenesses and are becoming more and
more and more aware of your own participation and your own choices in that
participation. And whether you agree or whether you disagree, and even in
that, you are aware enough to allow yourself the expression of your ability
to manipulate energy in certain capacities in your agreement or disagreement
with mass events and whether you choose to participate in them. I would express that
within recent time framework, that being within the end throes of your
previous century and this new century to date, you have generated such a
considerable amount of upheaval and mass events that were shocking, that were
surprising - they are not surprising any longer – that you have awakened yourselves
to your own participations. You have awakened yourselves to probabilities.
And in that, I would express that it is more likely that you would (Smiling)
disappoint yourself that there is not a mass event (Laughter)than to be actually supported or surprised that there is
one. And in that, you may generate some action in a different capacity merely
to express that accumulation of energy and that volume of energy, but you may
choose to do it in a very different capacity. PATRICIA: I want to jump
off that. So, okay, so, what you just said – choosing to do it in a different
capacity – then you could be sort of really creative as to what type of sail
that you construct for yourself, so that you can ride that. If there’s going
to be all this energy released, like the question would be, what are the most
effective ways to just rock out with that? I mean, that you could… Because,
I’m just thinking, what could we do with that? If we’re choosing, if we’re
creating, then, you know what I’m saying? How you could take that and make
something really fun or really positive. ELIAS: Then perhaps you
will generate a breakthrough in a new discovery of energy that will launch
you into space. (Group applauds, and
Laughter and sneezing ensue.) FEMALE: You could leave
now! ELIAS: Agreed. Ha, ha,
ha! ELIAS: Yes? LORRAINE: Hi, Elias. This
is Lorraine. I don’t really have any exact question, but I have a curiosity
about the financial goings on that we’re creating globally right now with
Occupy Wall Street and all that kind of stuff. I’d like a little bit more
information about the big change in the monetary system. If you could just
talk a little bit about that. ELIAS: It is proceeding,
as you are aware, and this is a very significant physical change. And with
this type of enormity of a physical change that includes almost the entirety
of your planet, what is familiar to all of you collectively with regard to,
for the most part, any set structure, is to tear it down before you begin to
build anew. And that is what you are doing. That is what is familiar to you
and therefore what you perceive to be the most effective, not necessarily the
most efficient, but the most effective. And therefore, that is the direction
that you have already engaged, which is obvious. You are dismantling. Brick
by brick, you are dismantling that structure. But collectively you have not
quite set yourselves upon a new structure. Therefore, it is once again
another in-between in which you have not yet chosen or decided what you will
create and place in your reality as the new structure to replace the old
structure of exchange. And let me express to
you, as with any other aspect of this shift, it begins with every individual.
And in this, how difficult is it for each of you to even conceive of
functioning in a reality without exchange? It is almost impossible for you to
objectively conceive of that at this point. You are already moving in that
direction. You are already dismantling the structure, but it is a process,
and this is, in one manner of speaking, a lengthy process. But in another
manner of speaking, considering the length of your history and how long you
have been engaging exchange, this change is occurring exceptionally quickly
for it is being accomplished in a timeframe of approximately one hundred of
your years, which is miniscule in relation to all of your history. It is very
quick movement. But I am aware in your present lifetimes that may seem to be
a considerably long time. And in that, you will continue to observe and even
participate in and be affected by the changes in your financial structure. But what I would express
to you is a tremendous encouragement not to succumb to fear, for that is the
automatic response. It is new. It is different. It is unfamiliar. And what will
I do? And what will I lose? This, once again, is that tipping of the scale in
that familiar direction, concentrating upon what you do not want, what you
are unhappy with, what you are uncomfortable with, rather than tipping the
scale in the direction of what you do want, and what you are accomplishing,
and what you are comfortable and satisfied with. Change is much more
easily swallowed if you are not choking yourself (Laughter), if you are not
fighting with the change in generating those expressions and perceptions of
negative and lack and fear and discounting. If you are moving with the wave
rather than against it, it is much less exhausting, much easier, and can be
accomplished with much less struggle and trauma or discomfort. This is one of those situations.
It is changing. You have chosen it. Therefore, your choice now – for you have
already chosen this, you have already initiated it and put into movement, it
is moving – now your choice is you can either swim against the wave or you
can ride with it. You can either express fear and opposition and generate
considerable discomfort and be miserable, or you can accept that this is the
choice that you have created and allow yourself to trust that – very
important factor, trust that - and trust that you will adjust and you will
change with it and it will flow. LORRAINE: That’s the key,
the trust part, as you just mentioned, because I don’t have a problem with it
going. I’d love it to go. (Laughter) It’s the fear. It’s the fear of what’s
going to remain. ELIAS: Correct. LORRAINE: What’s going to... I’m happy not to have to pay the mortgage to the
banks. I really believe that they’re going to go,
they’re going to go away. But it’s, like, what then? What comes after that? ELIAS: Correct. LORRAINE: I don’t know what
that is. [inaudible] ELIAS: And as I
expressed, what is expressed after that is that you will all be continuing to
function within your world. And all of the functions of your world will
continue in the capacity that is necessary for its functioning. And it will
be accomplished through the actions of each individual choosing to do what
they want to do, what their passion is to do, what they enjoy doing, and what
is satisfying to them, rather than what they do not want to do, but they are
being paid. RODNEY: Give him the mic. Don’t touch the buttons. (Laughter) VERONICA: Elias, I
remember reading your advice to not hold onto your thoughts so tightly,
allowing them to go. I notice that in my everyday activities, together with,
what I call becoming a little forgetful, I am aware of light areas in my
brain. Is this a beneficial activity or the opportunity of the genuine self’s
expression? ELIAS: It can be. VERONICA: It’s like the
world looks anew after the awareness of the blank space. And I’ve begun
painting that space, so I’m wondering if this is an opportunity to see the
world anew. ELIAS: Different. Yes. VERONICA: Oh, cool. ELIAS: (Chuckling) Yes? KATHLEEN: Hi, Elias. So
glad to be here and so glad that you’re here. (Elias chuckles) I have a
question. I had what we call in this neck of the woods an accident in May. My
entire life has completely changed since that time. And I happened to be
transcribing a session, or giving it my best shot, that included a young lady
who had an accident, who disengaged in her accident and was not replaced -
but, you’ve been replaced, so – who another aspect took over her essence or
her focus. And I’m wondering if this happened to me because I can’t wrap my
mind around how so many things about me could change so dramatically in such
a short period of time. I don’t even peel apples the same way. I don’t know
who that is peeling those apples, and it’s so interesting to me. It’s really
exciting because it seems like this whole other doorway of opportunity and
information has opened up to me, and it’s really kind of blowing me away, but
I’m having a really lot of fun with it. But, you know, I’ve also been a
little bit afraid because I’ve had some physical manifestations that seem to
be the result of that experience, that I can’t quite put my finger on, but I
feel something there. And I’m just trying to find out if, number one, another
aspect of me has sort of stepped into my focus and sort of become the primary
aspect. And if in that process the opening that I’m sensing that I’m experiencing
is... I guess I’m looking for some validation on that because I just feel
this massive light in my world, and this amazing joy, and I’ve always sort of
leaned in that direction, but this is like ridiculous joy. (Laughter) And,
you know, there are some people who have an aversion to that because it’s
something outside their frame of reference. ELIAS: I am well aware. KATHLEEN: But I’m groovin’ on it. I’m stylin’
with it. So many things have changed that it just really doesn’t feel like
me, but I know it’s me. And, I guess I just would like to know a little bit
about it. ELIAS: I would validate
to the second aspect of your question, of your experience, yes. As to first,
of changing primary aspects, no. What you have done is you have jolted
yourself. This occurs at times with individuals and it is generally in
relation to their desire. Remember, desire is not always the same as what you
want, but it is what genuinely drives you. And in that, in relation to your
desire in openness, in shifting, in appreciation, and in a greater awareness,
what you did was you jolted yourself. You offered yourself an experience to
shock yourself into an opening. And individuals do do
this. It is not tremendously common, but it is not uncommon either, that
individuals will generate certain types of extreme experiences, many times
what you term to be near-death experiences, and it is not a matter that those
individuals are necessarily changing primary aspects, but that their desire
is great enough and intense enough in any particular time framework that the
swiftest and the most effective manner to accomplish the expression of their
desire is to generate some extreme action that will jolt them into an
awakening, and that is what you have done. (Group applauds) KATHLEEN: Thank you. ELIAS: You are welcome. KATHLEEN: And a quick one
for Kimi Kiatia, who
asked me to mention her shoelaces, because there has been a lifelong issue of
loose shoelaces, and she wonders if she’s trying to loosen up her energy or
if you would speak to that, just slightly for her, because I promised. Thank
you. ELIAS: Ah, interesting,
for this circles us to the beginning of this forum in which we discussed
shoes and bare feet. Now; I would express that
it is not imagery of loosening her energy. It is imagery of the telephone
ringing. It is imagery of paying attention. Where are you walking? What are
you doing? Pay attention. She is expressing an objective reflection to
communicate to herself in a more obvious manner. Pay attention to where you
are going. KATHLEEN: Thank you. ELIAS: You are very
welcome. (Chuckles) SANDRA B.: One more?
Okay. So in view of what you are saying, Elias, this afternoon, as we get
excited and joy-filled about this shift that we’re engaging and the wave, the
creation wave we’re inserting, could we also then be the imagineers
of this wonderful experience we’re about to...? You said before, we present
ourselves with every aspect of the imagery in this room down to the cellular
level, the atomic level, but we already pre-do it before we get here, in a
sense. So because we do that quite naturally as humans, isn’t this maybe a
metaphor for how this new appearance of whatever we’re creating will
manifest? In other words, I become aware I’m the manifestor
of my reality, then I choose whatever I wish to manifest, and then I know it
consciously. ELIAS: Yes. SANDRA B.: Ba-boom, done. That’s it. ELIAS: It may not appear
instantaneously. SANDRA B.: No, no. ELIAS: But, yes, you are
correct, and, yes, I would agree with your terminology of imagineers. SANDRA B.: Okay, great.
Thank you! Love it! Thank you. RODNEY: Did you want?
Okay. ELIAS: Yes? DANIIL: Okay, so, a
really quick one. You said we chose, right, every, everyone, every single one
of us, and so on. How come, say, we here have chosen exactly the same set of
people? How does that work? (Laughter) ELIAS: For your intention
is very much similar. And therefore what you are doing is projecting a very
similar energy with that intention. And I would also express to you that you
chose the same individuals to be present, but you did not choose the precise,
exact, same images to be interacting with. And therefore you each drew that
aspect, those individuals, yes, but different aspects of energies of those
individuals, so they are not exactly the same. (Laughs with Group) ELIAS: Yes? KEN G.: My question is, I was wondering if you could speak briefly upon, I think
we’re sort of touching upon it here, upon the subject of the intentional
group projection of energy. And as an example, I would like to... Well, first
of all, I’d like to know can we all aid in the shift with some intentional
projected energy? ELIAS: Yes. KEN G.: Okay. And, as an
example, the Dalai Lama recently performed a very ancient ritual in
Washington, D.C., called the Kalachakra ritual. I’m
not completely familiar with all its’ intention, but I do know the intention
was of mass benefit. Now there are a lot of people in the world believing, or
consciously believing, in the Kalachakra ritual, or
similar ancient rituals which are being performed all around the world. I
guess the question would be is the collective intentional projection of
energy in these cases of ancient ritual regressive or progressive in the
sense of the shift? ELIAS: Progressive. RODNEY: Elias, I have a
question if nobody else does. Um, Alexi? ELIAS: Yes. RODNEY: Alexi. This has
something to do with what we’re talking about. (Laughter) ELIAS: Very well. RODNEY: Does fluoridated
water... BEN P.: Oh, Rodney, I
asked Elias yesterday. RODNEY: You going to make
that known to the group? BEN P.: The answer was
no, correct? ELIAS: Correct. RODNEY: Oh, okay. Fine. BEN P.: I’m sorry, I’m just saving session time… RODNEY: Thank you. ELIAS: Yes? DANIIL: Okay, but since
we were talking about some mass fears, right, such as disappearance of
exchange, some of my friends feel strongly that western civilization is
disappearing, right, and they are not aware of the material, so to them it
would not be disappearing as replaced by the shift. So they feel it is
replaced by more active, rigid beliefs in the, say, Muslim population where,
especially in Western Europe, you can almost see that the Christian culture
is going, and is being replaced. So, what is the purpose of that movement?
Why are we seeing activization of religious
beliefs, and expansion of what appears to me as a more rigid culture, rigid
system? ELIAS: To prepare you for
your next wave. FEMALE: Another one? What
is the next wave? (Group talking) ELIAS: To prepare you now
in a capacity of expanded awareness and therefore allowing you to express
less judgmental, for religion is a manifestation of individuals that are
expressing faith. Faith is a very powerful expression that you generate
within physical focus. It offers individuals a false sense of empowerment.
And this is an example of the difference between genuine empowerment and
false empowerment. And in that I’m not expressing that faith is bad or that
it is wrong. It is not. But in regard to religion it is outdated and
misplaced. In relation to this shift, that will be another very large
construct, equally as large as your financial construct. That is a very large
structure in your world. And in that, it will be being dismantled also. But before
you can dismantle it, it is important to see it. It is important to recognize
it for what it is. And I would express to you, what better manner to see it
and recognize it than to present it right before your face in all of its
immense glory. (Laughter) And, in that, my friends,
I shall bid you all adieu. And I shall be
anticipating our next meeting. I express to each of you, individually,
tremendous supportiveness in all of your endeavors and movements, tremendous
encouragement against fear and into empowerment of yourselves. Move into this
new sea that you have touched your toes in and avail yourselves of the
tremendous freedom and passion that awaits you. To each of you in
tremendous lovingness, as always, and ever increasing, au revoir. GROUP: Au revoir. FEMALE: Au revoir, Elias. Thank you. (Group applauds) Elias departs after 2
hours, 21 minutes. Endnotes: (1) Originally stated as: And when you
do that, what you do in actuality is lengthen the time framework of that
in-between, for you are fighting with it, not allowing it to flow, and the
more you flight - fight (correcting himself) - with it, the more you dam the
stream. (2) Video recording cut out. Thanks to
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