Elias Transcripts – Session 513, Friday, December 10, 1999

TOM: I will do that. She has a couple of questions also, so I will do hers first. She has a friend named Bob that she’s convinced is Tumold/Sumari, and she was wondering if you could confirm that, and also, I guess I was gonna add orientation to her question for her.

ELIAS: Very well. (Pause) Essence family correct, Tumold; alignment in this focus, Ilda.

TOM: Ilda, huh?

ELIAS: Orientation, common.

TOM: That’s interesting. She also wondered if you had any advice on ... she’s seeming to have a recurring problem with her beliefs about relationships getting the best of her, if you have any advice for her in this area? (Pause)

ELIAS: Let me express to you that you may offer to Sena my invitation that we may discuss this situation together, for I shall express to you within this now that the information to be offered to her may be more lengthy and involved than may be comfortable to be discussing through another individual, and she may allow herself an incorporation of this information in interaction with myself directly with less distortion and greater understanding than she may allow herself in the incorporation of an individual acting as an intermediary.

TOM: I understand. I guess especially me! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ah! Do not be discounting of self! I am not expressing ...

TOM: Oh, I understand.

ELIAS: ... that you may not efficiently relay the information.

What I AM expressing is that in the actual exchange between myself and an individual, I offer an energy exchange subjectively which may lend to the individual’s assimilation of the information that is offered to them, which is not always translated in other manners.

In this particular subject matter, there are certain areas in which Sena is not allowing herself to be viewing self yet, and therefore there may be some elements of sensitivity objectively, and knowing the energy that she holds and understanding the direction in which she is moving, I assess that it may be more beneficial to her to be directly interacting with myself, and therefore also allowing her the opportunity to be interjecting questions in areas that she may hold confusion objectively.

TOM: Right. I guess I understand. I was kind of thinking, because Sena and I have a relationship, so to speak, it can’t be as direct as interacting with you. So I wasn’t trying to be discounting myself, I guess, but those are habits sometimes, huh? (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ah! But let me also express to you, in your very expression, that you ARE creating a discounting of self, and follow that discounting of self with a reinforcement of justification in the explanation that you involve yourself with a relationship with this individual, and therefore that supposes that you hold less objectivity in the interaction, and this may not necessarily be the situation. But it IS an element quite accepted in mass belief systems in interaction between individuals. Now you may view how insidious your expressions of your beliefs may be!

TOM: Yes, I am seeing that! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

TOM: Okay, let’s continue with some of my questions. The focus of – I’m not sure if I’m gonna pronounce this right – Hephaestion, Alex’s alter ego in that focus, I was wondering if I could get the essence name, and if this person is involved with me in this focus? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Groftel; G-R-O-F-T-E-L. (grof’tle) Do you hold interaction within this time framework with an individual manifest of that essence? Not yet.

TOM: There is a probability that I will?

ELIAS: Yes.

TOM: Hmm. Interesting.

I was looking at these chapter focuses, and I am aware of three of the five. The other two appear to me ... one appears to be a Roman general, and the other appears to be in the medieval times, a wizard or witch, and I was wondering if my impressions were correct on those two?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. This individual, within what you identify as a time framework of medieval period, would be recognized as a sorcerer.

TOM: Right, and the other is a Roman general, actually also well-known?

ELIAS: Relatively speaking; well-known within his ranks.

TOM: It seems there’s a fondness with Malhai for some well-known focuses. I’ve connected, and I’m not sure if I’m connecting exactly with bleed-through from other focuses, or if they are the focuses of Malhai sometimes. Discounting self again! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Not necessarily in this situation, for this may be confusing at times as you allow yourself to be investigating of other focuses.

Now; an indication that you may find in your investigation of other focuses – to be offering you differentiating information as to whether it may in actuality be a focus of your essence or not necessarily a focus of your essence – is that as you are investigating other focuses, you may at times magnate quite strongly to certain personality types and their expressions.

This is not to say that you may in actuality hold those specific individuals as focuses of your essence and be manifest as those particular individuals, but that there are certain qualities within certain focuses that you DO manifest into through your essence that may be manifest within the same time framework, and there is a very strong association in similarity of energy and expression and behavior, and also at times in the expression of ideals. There may also be quite strong similarities in the identification of alignment with certain expressed beliefs.

Now; what shall be an indication to you – that you may question if this particular focus may be an actual manifestation of your individual essence – is that although you may hold strong identifications with a particular individual or manifestation and although you may offer yourself some information in conjunction with that particular individual, you shall encounter difficulty in mergence with that particular manifestation.

Let me express to you, there is a difference between the action of viewing another focus as you view a motion picture, or participating in another focus as you allow yourself through the action of mergence with that focus.

Now; in this, you may offer yourself information concerning another focus of another essence, in like manner to your ability in accessing information of what you term to be world views. These are accessible to any essence, and as there is in actuality no separation, it is possible for you, as an individual focus, to be accessing information concerning any other focus of any other essence which is manifest in this dimension.

As to the action of mergence, this would be involving your empathic sense as applied to the action involving another focus of another essence, which is not necessary to be engaging in mergence with a focus of your essence. They are different types of actions.

In this, you may allow yourself to be merging with another focus of another essence in similar manner that you may merge with another individual within your time framework and your objective interaction, or with any other element of consciousness within this focus. But this is an engagement of your empathic sense.

Now; in the early throes, so to speak, of the engagement of these sessions, I spoke with individuals and offered explanations of these inner senses, and have also expressed that many of the actions associated with these inner senses may be viewed in your physical reality as being rusty, figuratively speaking, for generally speaking, you have not allowed yourselves to be practicing and engaging these inner senses. Therefore, the energy exerted in the implementation of action concerning these inner senses for a time framework is requiring much more effort than it shall be requiring once you have polished these inner senses.

Now; I hold an awareness that you do allow yourself to be engaging these inner senses, but as you engage investigations of other focuses, what I am explaining to you is that you shall notice the energy effort which shall be exerted and required to be accomplishing a mergence through an empathic action with another focus of another essence in a different time framework, and you shall recognize that this action is different from the mergence that you may allow yourself to engage with a focus that is a manifestation of your essence. There shall be much more of an expression of ease in mergence with a focus of your essence than shall be expressed in that similar type of mergence with another essence.

In this, individuals become confused at times in their attempt to be recognizing the differences of energy.

I have spoken to several other individuals recently in this manner also, offering information concerning the recognition of difference of energy, and that you may allow yourself to familiarize yourself with your energy and that of your focuses, for all of your focuses shall hold a similar energy to your expressed energy.

This offers you the opportunity to differentiate the energy of other essences and is helpful in lessening your confusion and lending an ease in your identification of focuses that are manifestations of your essence and those that are manifestations of other essences, merely for the reason that there are expressions of manifestations within any given time framework in which several or many essences may be manifesting very similar types of focuses, but generally speaking, one essence shall distinguish itself, in your objective physical terms, as creating an expression of what you identify as fame or notoriety. The other essences manifesting their focuses may be expressing very similar types of manifestations, but are not choosing to be creating them as the figurehead, so to speak, and therefore are not a focal point.

In this, the focal point is the individual that is easily identified within your objective expressions and throughout your history, and this also is purposeful, for it allows for an ease in your objective association.

There is an expression that is created within all of you manifest within this particular dimension in a leaning into an expression of energy of want for similarity between your expressions. You automatically move in an association of shying away, in a manner of speaking, from difference.

This be another reason, so to speak, that the action of this shift holds great unfamiliarity within your objective expressions, for you are moving more and more into the allowance of individual expression and creating much more of an allowance for differences and a recognition of no absolutes.

In this, previous to this shift in consciousness and even within this time framework to an extent, you continue to move in an automatic direction of expressing more of a comfort in similarity and more of an uncomfortableness with differences.

Therefore, the expressions of certain individuals, certain manifestations as focal points or famous individuals, offer you an identification of a personality type that you may identify similarities with, OR you may identify tremendous expressions in opposition to that personality type. But you shall also, in that type of a recognition, find similarity with many other individuals that express a disdain for that particular famous individual.

Are you understanding?

TOM: Yes, I am, and that’s what I’ve been doing with this Roman. That’s why I’ve been having difficulty connecting, because I’m actually connecting with another essence in what I’ve been viewing.

ELIAS: This be the reason that I have expressed to you yes, you do hold a focus as a general, and your recognition is held widely within the ranks of your comrades and your time framework, but not necessarily in recognition throughout your recorded history.

TOM: Correct, so this is why the connecting that I’ve been doing has been a little more ... like you said, is taking more energy, because I was connecting with another individual in that time framework.

ELIAS: You are correct. Now you may allow yourself to move in the direction of investigating the focus that YOU hold within YOUR essence, which is not recognized widely within the expression of fame historically, but does move in his manifestation quite similarly to the focus that you have been viewing.

TOM: Okay, I will explore that. Could I ask you the name of the sorcerer, the medieval sorcerer?

ELIAS: I shall refrain temporarily and challenge you to be offering this to me, and shall you encounter much difficulty, I shall comply and offer it to you subsequently.

TOM: I’ll explore both of those, and in our next meeting, I will give you my connections to that.

ELIAS: Very well. You may view that these two focuses may hold interest to you, for each of them, although expressing quite differently within their individual focuses and their individual beliefs, are quite fascinating manifestations, and also do lend energy to this focus quite purposefully in different manners.

TOM: I guess I’ve been exploring this within the chapter, viewing the chapter....

ELIAS: Quite.

TOM: You mentioned change (pause) or we’d rather stay similar rather than change, and I guess it’s ... I don’t know. I guess I’ve lost my question on that! So maybe we should go to another, to the beliefs.

I guess I see the cages or belief systems as perhaps, in one way of speaking, altering as we enter more quickly into the shift. Could you comment on this perception?

ELIAS: In one manner of speaking, you are correct. In another manner of speaking, no. The cages or the belief systems themselves are not necessarily altering. Your perceptions of these cages or these belief systems ARE altering. In another manner of speaking, this does, figuratively speaking, alter the cage, for your perception is what is creating your reality, and therefore, how you perceive these beliefs, if it is altering, shall also be altering of the belief. This is quite abstract, but in a manner of speaking, it is correct.

What I shall express to you is that the beliefs, as I have stated previously, shall continue, but your perception of these beliefs is changing and continues to be changing and accelerates in its intensity in that changing, and this allows you to be moving into the acceptance.

Within this time framework, you are moving into a new expression. This particular time framework of intensity of energy is creating a great allowance for individuals to begin to view glimmers of movement in the direction of acceptance. You may at times experience elements of discouragement in which you are discounting of your movement, viewing yourselves not to be accepting, but this also is a validation of your movement into acceptance, for were you not moving into the direction of acceptance, you would not be noticing your lack of acceptance.

TOM: Okay. So is viewing physical reality like a multidimensional mirror, so to speak, reflecting our creating? Would acceptance or releasing the birds allow us to use these belief systems at will? Our movement from one to the other would matter not, so to speak?

ELIAS: Correct. You are correct. This is not to say that they shall be eliminated, and I am understanding that this is a very difficult concept for all of you within physical focus and within your objective understanding. It is not impossible for your understanding, but I do hold an awareness of the difficulty in your objective understanding of this concept.

You shall continue to hold the belief systems, the bird cages. You shall continue to allow yourselves thought processes in conjunction with your belief systems. You shall continue to hold or allow yourselves the expressions of opinions in conjunction with your belief systems, and you shall continue to create emotional expressions in conjunction with some of your belief systems.

But you shall also recognize in genuineness that these are choices that you create intentionally and purposefully, and that they are not automatic responses or reactions, and you shall genuinely be expressing “it matters not.”

Therefore, your choices shall be merely choices, without the attachment that you hold now in the tremendous expression of duplicity – in your expressions of should or should not, or your better or worse.

You may be quite motivated within this physical dimension without the expression of “better.” Your beliefs move you in the expression of, you shall lose your motivation and your drive for exploration or creation if you are not striving to be better or if you are not incorporating competition, but this is not necessarily correct.

That is another expression of an absolute within your belief systems, and you reinforce this aspect of beliefs quite strongly, and you offer yourselves continuous imagery to be reinforcing of this belief in better and in competition as factors of motivation.

I am expressing to you that these are unnecessary factors, and that your motivation shall not diminish or be depleted merely that you disengage actions of competition or striving for better.

TOM: Well, it would appear that motivation, if you’re moving in excitement and enjoying your creating, would enable more acceptance and an effortless movement that would coincide with desired creations and also with wants, in a manner of speaking?

ELIAS: You are correct. But I shall also express to you that this is merely one element of the coin, so to speak, for those elements of your reality that you deem to be unpleasant or sad, uncomfortable, painful, those are also purposeful expressions within this physical dimension, and are elements of yourself and of your creations, and are worthy of your exploration also.

It is merely the tremendous expression of judgment, in either expression of good or bad, happy or sad, that you lean in the direction of turning your attention ONLY to those expressions that create what you identify or define as happy.

I may express to you that the expressions of those that you define presently in the negative may be equally as satisfying in acceptance and therefore pleasurable – as you redefine your identification of pleasure – as any expression that you now view in the positive.

These are difficult concepts in your understanding yet, but you are creating movement more and more into an expression of acceptance, which shall allow you the objective viewing and experiencing of this concept in which it shall genuinely matter not, and you shall perceive your reality and your beliefs quite differently. The sharpness shall be eliminated.

TOM: I guess I understand some of what you’re saying with relation to the pleasure I had in creating my heart attack, (laughing) which people don’t understand when I express that, and the awareness of different sad experiences such as the death of someone close ... the different awarenesses and the pleasure in those awarenesses that come about. This is probably just part of what you’re speaking of?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and this is what I am speaking of, that you are allowing yourself – and other individuals also are allowing themselves – to be moving more into the expression of acceptance, and these are objective expressions of that acceptance.

And as you allow yourselves more of your acceptance of self, you also create much more of an ease in your movement in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, which creates movement in altering your perception in conjunction with your beliefs and allows you to move more into an expression of acceptance with your belief systems. This is quite powerful, for this alters many elements of your perception.

TOM: And it would appear in this that moving within this acceptance, even of what we perceive to be negative in this time, that it enables us to uncreate those things much easier too.

ELIAS: You are correct, although you shall evaluate, within your own expressions and movement, that it is not in actuality an uncreating of any element, but a choice to be creating in a different manner.

We have employed the terminology of uncreating, for this has been accepted in objective understanding more easily.

But as you begin opening within your acceptance and you begin movement into the acceptance of belief systems, you also widen your awareness objectively, which is the point, and in this widening of awareness, you begin to realize objectively that you are not in actuality uncreating any element within your reality, but merely choosing to be moving into different expressions.

TOM: And our choices become infinite.

ELIAS: Quite, and this is the point! (Chuckling)

TOM: It’s exciting, the shift!

ELIAS: Quite! I shall express to you that this is quite an unusual creation of a Source Event being inserted into your physical reality within this dimension – to the capacity that it may be inserted – for this is quite a different type of expression than has been engaged within consciousness in conjunction with physical expressions previously, in a manner of speaking.

TOM: Yes, it seems we’ve been on automatic pilot, so to speak, for a long time with our belief systems! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

I’ve heard it said that beliefs or belief systems have a different ... each one has a different frequency or vibration that allows, if we align energy to it ... maybe we’ve spoken about this in the past. Is this a correct perception, or just merely another belief?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, although I shall choose not to be encouraging of energy being lent in this direction, in this type of identification, for this allows for a tremendous expression of distortion.

In the manner that all of your expressions, all of your thoughts, all of your emotional expressions hold differences in vibrational qualities, yes, different beliefs also hold differences in vibrational qualities in their manifestation of expression.

But as to a cosmic identification, so to speak, that designates a particular frequency, so to speak, of each individual belief system, I shall express to you, no.

TOM: Okay. It would be more that each individual within a belief system is actually embedding their energy, their vibration, so to speak?

ELIAS: Yes.

TOM: Okay. A book I’ve mentally outlined, I was going to ask about the probability of it being materialized. Does that seem likely? (Pause, and Elias chuckles) Or is that a crystal ball question? (Laughing)

ELIAS: This is a question of prediction, and I shall express to you the information that you have implemented this action in creating a probability and setting that probability into motion.

TOM: Would this be the type of material you’ve assisted others in completing? Would this be the type of material that you may assist me in completing?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing, yes, I shall offer my helpfulness.

TOM: Okay, I guess I’ve been looking at music and writing as a ... as something to assist in the shift. I don’t know....

ELIAS: And this may be helpful.

TOM: I guess it will be interesting to view these probabilities.

I don’t have a lot of other questions. I guess I was gonna ask for some family names, family alignments, and essence names for several people. Shall I give them one at a time?

ELIAS: You may.

TOM: Jeremiah. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Hans; H-A-N-S. Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Vold.

TOM: Interesting. Janelle? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Cylell; C-Y-L-E-L-L. (si-leel’) Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Ilda.

TOM: Jason and Josh; they’re twins. (Pause)

ELIAS: First essence name, Markett; M-A-R-K-E-T-T. (mar-ket’) Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Sumari.

Essence name, second individual, Lyle; L-Y-L-E. Essence family, reverse of other twin.

TOM: Sumari/Sumafi, huh? Interesting. Kay? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Shalae; S-H-A-L-A-E. (shal-lay’) Essence family, Gramada; alignment, Vold.

TOM: Stella? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Sonda; S-O-N-D-A. (saun’da) Essence family, Borledim; alignment, Tumold.

TOM: Interesting. And one last one for today, Leroy.

ELIAS: Essence name, Cashah; C-A-S-H-A-H. (caush’ah) Essence family, Milumet; alignment, Ilda.

TOM: Interesting. I guess that’s all the questions I have today. If there’s any comments that you may have....

ELIAS: I shall merely express to you encouragement in your investigations, for this shall offer you much information in the identification not merely of focuses, but also in identifying differences in energy, and allowing you the opportunity to be recognizing the ease in your abilities as you allow yourself to be maneuvering within consciousness. I continue to be offering energy to you, and offering encouragement to you also.

I anticipate our next meeting, and I express to you this day, affectionately, adieu.

TOM: Adieu to you too. Thank you, Elias.

Elias departs at 3:05 PM.

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