Tuesday, January 18, 2000
“Memory, Remembering, Remembrance”
“Same Action, Different Experience”
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Katie (Muriel).
Elias arrives at 1:06 PM. (Arrival time is 26 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
KATIE: Good morning!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) We meet again!
KATIE: Yes, it’s been a while. I’m very glad to be talking with you this morning!
ELIAS: And you may proceed.
KATIE: Okay. First of all, last night before I went to sleep, I made a request of you because I wanted to be asking questions this morning – I hadn’t formulated my questions yet – and I wanted some imagery in my dreams to help me formulate questions.
I don’t remember the dreams, but I woke up this morning with imagery of spirals, and this is something that I’ve been seeing a lot of, not just in dream state, but everywhere I see spirals! I’ve been getting gifts with spirals on them, and I’m wondering what this is about.
ELIAS: This is the presentment in imagery, in conjunction with your request, which is a symbol that signifies memory. Therefore, in presenting yourself with objective imagery in conjunction with the dream imagery – which in actuality you ARE remembering, for you are incorporating this symbol of the spiral – you are offering yourself the key word of memory, which is translatable into remembering of information, and remembering self, and essence.
KATIE: Okay. Just in general?
ELIAS: Yes, for this allows you to be noticing all that you are creating within your focus presently. This is, as I have stated, a key word, in like manner to the key word of noticing.
Memory also may be incorporated in a similar manner, for as you are allowing yourself to be noticing different elements of your reality, you may also move in what you may term to be a step further with the noticing, and incorporate a remembering of self and of essence in conjunction with the elements that you are noticing.
KATIE: Okay, so this is kind of an acknowledgment to myself that I am remembering more?
ELIAS: Yes, and let me also express to you, this moves quite in conjunction with this time framework presently, for in this time framework, in the beginning throes, so to speak, of your new millennium, you are, in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, incorporating the objective insertion of the shift, and therefore incorporating the remembrance.
Now; the remembrance is not a memory, but some aspects of memory or remembering may be helpful to you in incorporating the remembrance, for the remembrance is a state of being. It is not a recollection. It is the action of being – yourself AS essence – without separation. But as I have stated, memory and remembering may allow you to be moving more into the state of being of remembrance.
KATIE: Cool! Okay, thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
KATIE: I had an experience a couple of months ago with a particular substance that I had some difficulty with. I was over at Lisa’s house, and I was getting all of this imagery that was what I would term to be very dark and scary, and I had some apprehension about engaging these types of substances again because of that experience. And then this past weekend, I had the opportunity again to engage these types of substances, but I didn’t want that kind of imagery again. I started talking about it with Tom, and I came to the idea that perhaps it was a fear of looking into self, looking within and thinking there was something dark there, and that the imagery I was having was more a reflection of this belief that there was something dark there and something fearful to be looking at, and not about what was actually there. Am I close on this?
ELIAS: You are quite correct.
KATIE: Okay, good. So did I release a bird in this? Because this weekend, my experience had no dark imagery. It was quite wonderful!
ELIAS: This has allowed you, in your examination of your beliefs, the opportunity to recognize that this is an aspect of the belief of duplicity, which suggests to you that there are elements of yourself, as a focus of essence, that are unacceptable or that may be bad or incorporating negativity.
Now; as you also have allowed yourself movement in your examination of this imagery that you have presented to yourself, you have also incorporated (major phone static) the allowance....
Vic’s note: Here, Elias stops and grins. There is an 18-second pause, and then Elias says,”And shall I continue?” Then there is a 13-second pause, at which point you can hear, “If you’d like to make a call, please hang up and try again. If you need help, hang up and dial your operator.” (We all love this one, eh?) At 1:16 PM, Elias pops out and Mary pops back in, saying, “I hate it when these things happen!” Katie calls back, and the session resumes at 1:17 PM, with a 13-second arrival time.
KATIE: Yes! What happened?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! This is an incorporation of physical interference in your physical manifestations of interruption by individuals in the employ of your service company of your telephone. (Chuckling)
KATIE: Okay. I was just wondering if I did that!
Vic’s note: So at times, the phone company creates your reality?
I shall express to you that what you are offering to yourself is the allowance of movement in conjunction with what we have been discussing in the direction of memory and the incorporation of the remembrance, for in the remembrance, there is a dropping of the veil of separation.
One of the expressions of separation in this physical dimension is your belief that the focus which is physically manifest in this dimension is different or separated from essence, that essence incorporates some element or entity outside of you. This may be camouflaged in many different manners in identification. You may identify this as a greater self, a higher self, your spiritual self – it matters not. The aspect of the belief, in conjunction with duplicity, is that the focus is less than essence, and within the incorporation of the remembrance, the veil of separation in this expression is dropping.
Therefore, as you allow yourself to be incorporating memory and remembering of yourself and your beliefs and the effects of your beliefs within your focus, how they are influencing, and as you turn your attention slightly, you also allow yourself to be incorporating less separation, and therefore allowing yourself to be not viewing focus as separated from the all of essence, and essence as being separated from the all of consciousness; not merely in theory or concept, but in reality.
Therefore, as you incorporate this action of dropping this veil of separation, allowing yourself to be incorporating more of the remembrance and allowing yourself to be incorporating memory of the influence of your beliefs in manifestations of fear or discomfort, you also allow yourself more of an expression of freedom, and in this, you are altering of your reality. Therefore, you incorporate a different experience in also incorporating a similar experience.
This also provides you with the opportunity to address to another aspect of beliefs which concerns absolutes, for as you view your experiences, you view them as absolutes, and in this, you quite easily move in the expression of creating elements of fear or apprehension in some creations as you incorporate what you identify as past experiences as absolutes, and therefore you allow that absoluteness to be influencing of present choices and probabilities.
In this, as you allow yourself to view that your experiences are not absolutes and that you may be incorporating the same action and you may be creating different experiences within the same action, you also offer energy to yourself in reinforcing a trust of self and of your abilities, for you acknowledge to yourself that you hold more choices and that your experiences are not absolutes, and that within these choices that you hold, you may be altering of any of your reality within any moment.
NONE of your reality is an absolute, and it is not set in stone, so to speak.
Therefore, you have offered yourself in this experience the opportunity to be noticing many elements of beliefs and how they are influencing of your perception, and how that influence in your perception also creates your reality. Are you understanding?
KATIE: Yes. I want to ask you something else about this experience. My friend reached up and touched my earring during this experience, and I don’t recall it at all – I was in an altered state. But this earring was covered with little spirals. That was the design on it, was spirals, and he said that when he touched it, I told him,”Oh, the crystals are back.” I’m wondering what that was about. I don’t remember it at all, but he remembered it quite clearly.
ELIAS: This is an identification within your imagery, in your individual association, as a type of conduit, in a manner of speaking. The crystal is an expression of imagery that you incorporate as this conduit, so to speak, an element that allows a flow between other elements, in a manner of speaking, and as the touch to the spiral was incorporated, you identified in similar imagery.
The touch of the spiral is the imagery which is created, with you, in the association of creating this bridge, so to speak, in memory, in a manner of speaking, and the memory creates a type of bridge which allows for the remembrance and its incorporation into objective reality. Therefore, there is also an association with other imagery that you identify in physical terms that may be offered in similar expression, and this particular physical element of crystals is the imagery that you have provided to yourself in objective physical terms, which mirrors what you identify as the subjective nonphysical element of the spiral.
KATIE: Hmm. Okay. Well, that’s pretty cool! (They both laugh) Okay, I’ve got some questions about some friends and for some friends. First of all, my friend Hal wants to know if he’s a dispersed essence. (Pause)
KATIE: He is not. Okay. And my friend Mark would like to know his essence name, family, and alignment, although I am supposing that he is Sumafi. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Nelle; N-E-L-L-E. (nell) Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Ilda.
KATIE: Ah, okay. Mark is always seeing a lot of purple around us whenever we’re together. What’s that about? (Pause)
ELIAS: Let me express to you that within your beliefs, you may associate this as what you term to be a spiritual color, and in this situation that you are creating in relationship with this individual, there is an objective desire between both of you to be creating what YOU identify as a type of spiritual incorporation or connection, so to speak.
Now; let me also express to you that you ARE already creating what you may term to be a spiritual connection objectively, or interaction, for all of your being IS spiritual, and therefore, as you are allowing yourself to be interactive and engaging a relationship, you are also incorporating spirituality.
But in this, there is an allowance to be noticing a particular vibrational quality that is being allowed to be connecting in what you may term to be physical terms, and there is an objective recognition of this.
What I am expressing to you is that there is an expression of the vibrational quality of this energy center in which both of you are allowing a projection of energy from – from yourselves, each.
In this, as you allow yourselves an interconnection in physical proximity, your energy fields individually intersect, and as you project the vibrational quality of this particular color, the energy fields become flooded, in a manner of speaking, with that particular vibrational quality of that color and merge together, and therefore it appears that there is a type of aura, so to speak, or energy field which surrounds both of you or is incorporated within your physical proximity in the expression of this color. This is the projection of energy that each of you are creating in conjunction with each other and allowing to be intersecting with each other.
KATIE: Okay. I have a lot of dream interaction with him too. One in particular involves white sails. I’m wondering what this imagery is about. (Pause)
ELIAS: This is imagery that you are presenting to yourself that is representative of ease, for as you incorporate the color of white, you are also incorporating all of the vibrational qualities of all other colors, so to speak. And therefore, your symbolization to yourself in the presentment of this is that you are creating an allowance of ease in your interaction and expression with this individual, incorporating many different qualities, many different expressions, and allowing the ease regardless, for the color of white is representing of an ease throughout all of the color spectrum, so to speak, and this may be translated into other physical terms or other types of physical imagery. You are merely imaging in this manner, for this is suggestive to you of all-encompassing.
KATIE: Okay. That is something that I notice a great deal with him, is that it’s all really, really easy with Mark. It’s so comfortable and he’s so familiar, much more so than I’ve ever experienced with anyone else. Is there any particular reason for that?
ELIAS: Partially I may express to you, you do hold other focuses of essence with this individual, but this is not what is facilitating of this action of ease. You may be investigating of those focuses if you are so choosing. But what facilitates the incorporation of ease is your allowance of self to be incorporating an ease in energy within your expression and within your acceptance of the other individual and their expression.
In this, an element of this ease that you are experiencing now moves in conjunction with YOUR individual movement – your attentiveness to your beliefs, your identification and recognition of your beliefs, and your focus of attention upon self and your movement into acceptance of self, which is also creating outward expressions and offering you the viewing and the interaction of a natural byproduct, which is an acceptance of other individuals.
With this particular individual, you are allowing more of an expression of openness and vulnerability, so to speak, within YOUR expression, and therefore you facilitate more of an ease in movement with yourself, and you notice an ease in movement between yourself and this individual.
KATIE: Okay. Is he a counterpart?
KATIE: Okay. Is there an energy mergence between us?
ELIAS: Yes, which you create in moments. Some moments are extended for longer time frameworks than other moments, as identified within your linear association with time, but what I am expressing to you is that this mergence is not ongoing uninterrupted. But it is created frequently.
KATIE: Okay. My next question is about my friend Sam. He’d like to know his essence name. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Syng; S-Y-N-G. (sing)
KATIE: That last letter was“G”?
ELIAS: Yes, correct.
KATIE: Okay, and I want to take a stab at his essence family and alignment. Is he Tumold/Sumafi? (Pause)
KATIE: Reverse, okay. So he’s the same as me.
KATIE: Well, I had it pretty close! (Elias chuckles) His daughter has been reporting an energy presence in their house; actually, two, a male and a female, as she relates it. He’d like to know what this is. She’s viewing them as ghosts. She’s a six-year-old. (Pause)
ELIAS: The energy which is being perceived is the energy of essences in conjunction with energy deposits of focuses of those essences.
Now; be clear, this may not be identified as haunting. This is merely an expression of energy deposits and the manipulation of energy by these essences which allow an interaction with these energy deposits within your physical Regional Area 1. The small one merely is allowing herself the viewing and interaction with these essences.
KATIE: Okay. Are these essences anyone that they know? Sam is thinking that the one she’s perceiving as female is his mother.
ELIAS: Let me be clear in this. The energy deposit may be identified as that focus. The energy of the essence is not identifiable in association with merely that focus. Are you understanding?
ELIAS: Therefore, in a manner of speaking, I may respond, no, this is not the manifestation of what is identified as his mother, for it is not the energy of that individual which may be held within this physical dimension. But there is an association of energy deposit in certain qualities that may be identified or associated with that individual, but the energy interaction is of the essence.
KATIE: Okay. I’ve been connecting with some other focuses of mine that I’d like some confirmation on. Did I hold a focus in Venice in the 1700s? (Pause)
ELIAS: What you would term to be early 1700s, Italy, yes.
KATIE: Okay, and I was male? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
KATIE: And this was a shared focus with Mark? (Pause)
KATIE: And also with Sam? (Pause)
ELIAS: In less expression of interactive relationship, yes, you are correct.
KATIE: Mark was a lover of mine in that focus, correct? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
KATIE: And he was also male? (Pause)
KATIE: Okay, cool! My friends Lisa and Leslie and I did a lot of connecting with a movie that we saw not too long ago about Queen Elizabeth, and we all felt we had connections there. I’m not real clear on my connection, but did I have a focus in or around the court of Queen Elizabeth? (Pause)
ELIAS: Not within the court; within the time framework and within the physical location, and I may express to you that this focus is not manifest as peasantry, but is also not physically associated with the individuals in the capacity of royalty per se.
KATIE: Was I connected with the church in this focus? (Pause)
ELIAS: In alignment with, not in choice of manifestation as a participant in the capacity of a priest.
KATIE: Okay, and this was a shared focus with Lisa and Leslie?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
KATIE: Okay, and in my Persian focus, was Sam my sister? (Pause)
ELIAS: No. This would be the sister, so to speak, of a friend.
KATIE: Okay. Well, that was pretty close! Also, I’ve made some connections with Venus. I’m assuming this would be in another physical dimension. Do I have focuses on Venus? (Pause)
ELIAS: This is an objective translation within this particular physical dimension.
As to your question, no, you do not occupy the physical location of this planet. Yes, you do hold another focus of essence which occupies another physical dimension which you are associating with this particular planet.
KATIE: Okay. I also connected some time back with a focus that would be pre-history or stone age. I had some imagery of myself and my sister, and I can’t remember if it was one or both of my brothers, in a cave around a fire. Was this a shared focus with them? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
KATIE: Okay. My Celtic focus, the one that you gave me the date of 1114, was his name Ian? (Pause)
ELIAS: No; Ethan.
KATIE: Ethan, okay. When we talked before about chapter focuses, and I’m not sure if I’m remembering this correctly or not, but you mentioned that they are as chapters in a book. Would the Alexander focus and the French revolution focus be chapters of the same book, so to speak? (Pause)
KATIE: No, okay. After I had that conversation with you, I believe I connected with my focus in the French revolution, and meeting you in that focus. The imagery that I got was of being at a party, and in conversation with you and several others, and you were making fun of me, essentially, but had me laughing at it. Is this accurate?
ELIAS: (Chuckling) And are you incorporating an appreciation for my wit?
KATIE: (Laughing) Yes, exactly!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) I shall validate to you your investigation.
KATIE: Great! Thank you. Let’s see ... oh yeah.
At Hal and Geri’s house, while I was there helping them put up their Christmas decorations, we had several episodes of birds crashing into their windows. That day alone, four or five birds crashed into their windows, and fewer than that had crashed into their windows, to their objective knowledge, in the prior four years that they lived there. Is this imagery of Rose?
ELIAS: Partially. I shall express to you that within a small time framework – within your objective terms in this physical dimension – many individuals incorporated imagery associated with birds, in the manifestation of what you may associate as harmfulness occurring with these creatures or destruction with these creatures.
Now; this is a type of symbology, so to speak – in the recognition of the time framework – in an alteration of direction, in a manner of speaking. As I have expressed recently, in conjunction with your entering of your new millennium, now begins your insertion of your shift in consciousness objectively into your officially accepted reality, and in this, there is a tremendous thrust of energy which is occurring, and within the final days, so to speak, of your previous millennium, a tremendous expression of energy was incorporated also in a turning, which has also created an element of trauma.
This particular type of imagery which you have allowed yourselves to be witness to, and other individuals have also incorporated, is a type of expression in conjunction with that movement of energy in the expression of trauma, and also in an expression of the tremendous alteration of your physical reality.
KATIE: Okay, cool! (They both laugh) I’ve hooked up with Deane, the fellow that likes to toast you! Vicki brought us together, and Lisa, Leslie, and I sat here one night and did some treatment work for him, and I felt your energy there very, very strongly, and everyone else did too. Were you lending energy to this?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. This is an incorporation of energy which is offered to this individual in an expression of acknowledgment and what you may physically term to be friendship.
KATIE: It’s interesting – prior to doing this, I had something set in my mind as to the intention of it, but as soon as you dropped in, the only intent that was in my mind was for him to trust himself. Was this your influence?
ELIAS: Yes, for this individual incorporates not merely this ability, as do you all, but an objective recognition of his ability in this direction, and has incorporated much movement in his focus, in allowing himself the expression of trust of his ability to be affecting of his creations if he is so choosing.
KATIE: Great! Okay. I actually only have one question left. I think this is the first time I’ve gotten through all my questions!
Everything in my life is going really great right now. I’m really happy in all but one area, and that’s the financial issue. I know there’s some belief there that’s blocking me that I am apparently oblivious of, and hopefully it’s a lot more obvious to you. Would you mind letting me in on it?
ELIAS: (Chuckling) I may express to you that you may be examining underlying beliefs that you hold in the area of associating struggle with nobility.
KATIE: Ah! Okay. I hadn’t come upon that one. I’ve looked and looked and looked for years! I’ve been working on this one for a long time.
ELIAS: You may also allow yourself to view how this particular type of creation offers you a payoff in conjunction with other individuals, for other individuals shall offer you certain expressions of understanding and compassion, in your terms, which you do not afford to yourself in some directions, and therefore, in this type of expression, you also provide yourself with your payoff from other individuals in conjunction with your manifestation.
You may be investigating and allowing yourself to view these two aspects, and this may be quite helpful to you.
KATIE: Oh, thank you very much, because I know that must be what I was missing. Yeah, I think I can work with this now. I really appreciate it!
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. (Chuckling)
KATIE: Well, that’s all the questions I have, and it happens to be just the right amount of time too, ‘cause the time is up.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall also continue to be offering energy to you in encouragement in your manifestations and your movement. To you, in loving affection, I express adieu.
KATIE: Adieu, my friend, and thank you so very much.
Elias departs at 2:06 PM.
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