Sunday, August 20, 2000
“A Discussion on Emotions”
Participants: Mary (Michael), Deborah (Angelica), Elaina-Joy (Soskia), Judy (Joan), Laura (Lynya), Lawrence, Mysty (Michella), Nathan (Robertt), and one new participant, Frank.
Vic’s note: Elias is very animated and directed in this session.
Elias arrives at 1:58 p.m. (Arrival time is 31 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good afternoon! (Grinning)
ELIAS: Welcome once again!
FEMALE: Thank you! (Elias chuckles)
ELIAS: This day, we shall engage a discussion together. I shall not present a dissertation, but shall direct this conversation in offering a subject matter.
In this, we shall be discussing emotion and the interplay of this element of your reality upon your interactions with yourselves and with each other, for this base element of your reality is incorporating many aspects of conflict with many individuals presently.
I have been discussing the emotion of anger recently within this forum and offering information to individuals concerning this particular emotion, as they may allow themselves to be viewing what they create in relation to this particular emotion, and eliminate some expressions of conflict that they may be creating in relation to other individuals or to themselves in the exhibition of this particular emotion.
But let me express to you also, all of your emotions at times may be creating conflict within your reality. As you allow yourselves to examine your emotional expressions within your physical focus, at times your expressions may be creating other expressions of conflict about you, or you may be creating conflict yourselves in relation to your emotional expressions.
Many individuals may be expressing the emotion of sadness, and they may be incorporating conflict in this expression. As one individual expresses sadness, other individuals incorporate conflict in relation to the expression that one individual may be demonstrating.
You may even incorporate conflict in relation to joyfulness. At times, you as an individual may be experiencing elation. You may be experiencing great joyfulness. You may express to other individuals that you are quite happy, and other individuals may be responding to you not in like kind, and they may be incorporating conflict in relation to your expression of joyfulness, and this may also incorporate a response from yourself in confusion or frustration, therefore also creating an element of conflict within you.
Emotions are a wonderful expression that you have designed in this physical reality. They are a wondrous element that you incorporate in exploration of yourselves, of your reality, of interactions with other individuals. But many times you incorporate the expressions of emotions, and you also incorporate the aspects of the belief system of duplicity, which influence your perception, and as you are aware, your perception creates your reality, and in this, you may confuse yourselves.
Many times in interacting with expressions of emotion, individuals create a thought process that they need be “doing” something in relation to the emotion that they are expressing or that another individual is expressing. You must be actively participating physically, and you must be “doing” some action.
If you are happy or joyful, you are expressing this and you must be celebrating, and individuals must be participating with you in this joyfulness and sharing of this experience.
If you are sad, you yourselves must be “doing” something to eliminate this sadness, or other individuals must be “doing” some action to eliminate this experience of sadness and change this experience of sadness.
If you are angry, you are creating judgments upon yourselves and upon other individuals, and you wish to be eliminating of that expression.
If you are experiencing frustration, you are accepting of frustration only within the time frameworks that you objectively identify to yourselves that the frustration is serving the purpose of motivation. If you are not aware objectively of a motivational factor associated with frustration, this is yet again another emotion that needs be eliminated.
There are many, many expressions of emotions. There are many degrees, so to speak, of your expressions of emotions. There are as many hues of emotional qualities as there are of your color spectrum, and ALL – without exception – of your emotional expressions are acceptable. They are all beneficial, they are all acceptable, and they are all purposeful, even anger.
Now; I shall briefly, this day, reiterate what I have expressed recently in relation to this one emotion of anger, in identifying to you that the expression of anger is an extreme. Anger is an aspect of frustration. Anger is the extreme of frustration. This is not to say that it is bad, but it is an extreme of an emotion.
In this, the inquiry has been posed, in relation to this shift in consciousness, as to how you shall engage this emotion of anger as you incorporate this shift in consciousness in its entirety into your objective reality. For in the association that you hold now, you do not identify that anger may be expressed without coupling it with judgment, and as you are aware, in the action of this shift, you are moving into acceptance. You are moving into acceptance of self, and clearly, acceptance of your belief systems, and this acceptance is the identification of a lack of judgment.
This is the definition of acceptance – a lack of judgment, be it good or bad, right or wrong. It is the incorporation of neutral.
As you look to the emotion of anger, you view – as I have stated – within your thoughts that you may not be expressing anger without some type of judgment associated with it, be it good or bad. You may be acknowledging of yourself that you are expressing angrily, or you may be chastising yourself that you are expressing angrily.
The expression of anger – as I have stated recently – in the extreme of frustration becomes turned, and in this, you incorporate blame, either to yourself, to a situation, or to other individuals.
Now; within this shift in consciousness, the extreme expression that you now identify as anger shall neutralize, for the judgment shall be eliminated.
The base emotion, which is frustration, shall continue, although its expression may be exhibited within your behaviors differently, for you objectively shall allow yourselves – and are allowing yourselves presently – an understanding of this emotion and its benefit and its purposefulness, and also its innate neutrality in itself.
Emotions within themselves, expressed in quality, are similar to your belief systems. Within themselves, they are neutral. They are not good or bad, right or wrong. They are merely an expression of your physical objective reality. They are a base element of this physical dimension. They are an intricate aspect of its design. Your belief systems are, in a manner of speaking, a base element of your reality. They also shall not be eliminated in the action of this shift. They merely shall be neutralized, for you are incorporating the action of acceptance. And as you are aware, sexuality is the other base element of your reality.
These are the elements in which you define your reality. These are the foundations of which you build your reality, and the amusing aspect of the discussion of these base elements of your reality is that you hold objectively little understanding of all of the base elements of your reality! (Chuckling)
You hold little understanding and acceptance of your emotional qualities and expressions. You hold little understanding and acceptance of your design of sexuality. You hold little understanding and acceptance of the belief systems that you incorporate into your reality.
I have been speaking with individuals within this forum for what you linearly identify as approximately five of your years, and within this time framework, to this present now, individuals continue to be expressing chastisement of themselves that they are not eliminating their belief systems.
Individuals continue to be expressing disappointment within themselves and discounting of themselves – and at times, of other individuals – that they have not yet eliminated even one of their belief systems, and this is not the point! The action is not to be eliminating your belief systems, any more than the point shall be to eliminate yourselves! You are not engaging acceptance of self and eliminating yourselves and “poofing away” out of this physical reality!
You are accepting of self, that you may be widening your awareness and offering yourselves the opportunity for vaster exploration of your physical reality, and in like manner, you are moving into acceptance of your beliefs, that you are not continuing to be incorporating limitations upon your perception, which is the instrument that creates your reality.
You are eliminating the obstacles that block your exploration within your physical reality by accepting your belief systems, and in this and in the acceptance of self, you also may be turning your attention to your emotional expressions and allowing yourselves to be accepting of these also.
Vic’s note: End of Elias’ non-presentation of a dissertation. Ha!
Now; in our discussion, shall we not engage conversation, all of us, (grinning) as to the identifications of different emotions that may be incorporating conflict within all of you, and your interactions with other individuals? And shall we not attempt together to explore this base element of your reality and your expressions, and discover an avenue in which you may allow yourselves and offer yourselves permission to BE accepting of your emotional expressions?
Therefore, to you I offer the floor! (Laughter) And you may engage myself and we shall discuss this subject matter, and perhaps we shall discover a viable avenue for less conflict. (Grinning)
FEMALE: How about the emotion of jealousy?
ELIAS: Ah, jealousy! (Chuckling) Such a colorful emotion, is it not? (Grinning, and laughter) And quite passionate! (Chuckling) And your expression is the incorporation of conflict in relation to this particular emotion?
ELIAS: And what do you view creates conflict as you experience this emotion of jealousy? Or rather, in not “skipping shells,” how shall you identify this emotion of jealousy?
FEMALE: I identify it in myself as withholding energy in myself, like blocking my emotions that come forth with other people.
ELIAS: And express to myself, what facilitates this action? What do you identify as the trigger, so to speak, that shall move you in a direction of creating this type of action?
FEMALE: Not feeling the flow to everybody; feeling the flow kinda off to me, and expressed to another.
ELIAS: Therefore, you are identifying a type of isolation within your feeling.
ELIAS: And this creates a conflict within yourself, for you wish to be sharing within your energy with other individuals, and you create this emotion of jealousy in viewing other individuals that allow themselves to express freely, where you do not.
ELIAS: Very well. In this, let us view what you are associating with within self, and what you are in actuality creating.
You turn your attention outside of self to other individuals, and you express within self a draw to other individuals that appear to you to freely be expressing their energy. This, within yourself, creates a want. You “want” to be creating that type of expression in like manner to other individuals, and as you are focusing your attention outwardly to the actions of other individuals or the creations of other individuals, you also automatically create a comparison.
You compare their design of their expression of energy to your own expression of energy, and in this comparison, as your attention is focused outwardly to other individuals, you create what we may term to be a model within yourself, an ideal of what you “should” be expressing and that your expression “should” be matching this model of your ideal, and the model of the ideal is created in its form through your assessment of other individuals’ actions and creations.
In this, the jealousy expressed is the judgment that is placed upon self, in an assertion of your assessment of self that you do not hold this same ability, or that you are lacking in your expression, or that you are malfunctioning in your behavior in relation to this type of action. Therefore, there is also an automatic discounting of self, and a clear expression of a lack of acceptance within your own natural flow of energy, for your expression may be different. But difference within your physical reality is unacceptable.
You may create a thought process within yourselves, and you may identify yourselves as quite open and quite liberal within your thoughts and your expressions, and you may express to yourselves and to each other that you are quite accepting of difference, and I shall express to you quite definitely, in this now, that you are not.
Difference creates threat. It threatens you as individuals. It threatens your acceptance of self, for you judge yourselves by what you view outside of yourselves. You create an automatic action of comparison, and in comparison, you do not allow for your own individual, natural, free flow of energy in the expression of difference.
Now; we have spoken many times of families, of orientations, of personalities within your physical dimension, which are all aspects of your reality and are all influential within your individual expressions.
But each of you are ultimately highly unique individuals. There is no other individual that is the same as each of you. You are as unique as your design of your physical body, which displays unique, individual fingerprints. No other individual throughout your history – past, future, or present – shall ever display the physical quality and identification of fingerprint that you display. It is a highly unique, individual, physical expression in identification of you.
In like manner, each of you chooses a unique expression of energy. You may incorporate a personality type, but within that type of personality, you display your own unique qualities. Each of you expresses a unique exhibition of energy which is unlike any other expression of energy, in any other form, in any other area of consciousness, throughout any dimension or any time framework.
You are ultimately unique. Therefore, how shall you compare to any other individual?
In this, the action of comparison automatically discounts you, even in comparisons that you view to be good, for there is an automatic action of discounting of your own expression of acceptance.
In the acceptance of self, you need not be creating this action of comparison. I shall express to you, many of the conflicts that you engage in relation to other individuals are expressed in holding your attention outside of self.
Now; as to the expression of jealousy, how may you be allowing yourself the continuation of the experience of the emotion, but not incorporating the conflict?
FEMALE: Accept the emotion, but not compare, and be in my flow.
ELIAS: Correct. For in this, you may allow yourself the viewing of other individuals’ expressions, and you may create another expression of emotion – a hue of emotion – in admiration for another individual which expresses themself differently from yourself, and you may be accepting of that difference and you may continue the emotion of jealousy, which is merely an awareness of the differences and the awareness of yourself, and what you physically term to be, in this popular time framework, your “ownership of your energy signature.”
This is an identification also of the emotion of jealousy. It is the emotion of your identification of your ownership of your energy signature, that you possess this. It is belonging to you. It IS you, and therefore, you express the emotion of jealousy to it, that it is yours.
In this, as you turn your attention from outside of self to self and acknowledge this emotion that you are expressing and not incorporate the comparison, you allow yourself the acceptance of your own natural free flow of energy, which may be expressed differently from another individual. This is not to say that it is inadequate or that it is not as good as another individual ... OR that you need be creating any expression better, for you are already creating best!
In this, you may be eliminating of your judgment and therefore eliminating of your conflict, but not necessarily altering your expression. What you ARE altering is your perception – how you view what you are creating and how you view what other individuals are creating – and in the lack of judgment, you may continue to be expressing yourself, not as demonstratively as some other individuals or not as obviously as some other individuals, but in allowing your own expression of a free flow of energy.
Are you understanding?
FEMALE: Yes. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. (Turning to another person) Yes?
MALE: Yeah, I just want to ask a question about that. If you’re eliminating the conflict around jealousy, doesn’t that ultimately eliminate the need for the jealousy, or ...?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is not a need. Let me clarify.
You do not need for any “thing” within your reality. This is an influence of your beliefs. You have many wants, but in actuality, there is no element or no expression that you need, for all that may be perceived as need is already incorporated within you, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, which is all! (Chuckling)
In this, it is an emotion. Therefore, as I have stated, why shall you eliminate the emotion? You may be expressing the emotion without the judgment.
The emotion, as we have identified, is the recognition and the knowing of what you possess within yourself in your own qualities, and in this knowing, you create an emotional expression as the identification and objective outward expression of that knowing of what you possess, and this is what you term to be jealousy.
As it turns to other individuals, it is the identification of what you possess and what you are not acknowledging within yourself, and therefore you create an association in judgment, not merely upon other individuals, but upon yourself ... and the emotion itself!
You label this emotion to be bad and unacceptable, and as I have stated, all of your emotions within themselves innately are neutral. They are not good or bad. They merely are expressions.
(Slowly) They are outward physical expressions of you that reflect qualities of you in a particular design of expression that you have identified and defined as emotion. (Pause)
Shall you not engage another confusing emotion? (Grinning)
FEMALE: Sure – anger.
ELIAS: And what shall be the nature of your concern in relation to anger? (Laughter) This is a vast subject matter presently!
FEMALE: Vast! I find ... here comes the judgment! (Elias chuckles)
I find my own anger appalling. I find it boring, that it continues to last when I find little reason for it to remain a volatile force, like a volcanic aspect that has a continuous molten core, always hot and always ready. I can define that in many ways, like (inaudible), and fiery, and in some other definition or interpretation, there are things that in fact I accept, that this is a part of my makeup, that this seems to be, in this manifestation of me, this seems to be ... there’s a certain amount I find acceptable. If I give myself a good definition for anger, and others, then it’s a really neutral force. It can be utilized in a million different ways. It does not have to be destructive. It does not have to be what we would term negative, and it isn’t. It’s neutral. It’s an incredible energy. Volcanoes make new land. There are many plusses for all that.
And yet, I find it to be, in my own life, a kind of ... I’d rather not have that be my motivating energy. Even if I use it well, I’d still rather that not be the tone of my energetic pattern. I don’t like it, and that’s my absolute judgment – I don’t like.
ELIAS: Quite! And many individuals may be expressing in agreement to you, that they do not like it either! (The group cracks up)
FEMALE: Right! I totally agree! (Laughing)
ELIAS: And many individuals express this within themselves, that they are not liking of this emotion of anger.
But let us be remembering that anger is not the emotion within itself. Anger is an extension of an emotion.
ELIAS: It is an extension of the emotion of frustration, and in this, it is an extreme.
Anger is expressed, outwardly AND inwardly, in a lack of acceptance of self, and I may express this to you quite strongly and quite definitely. It matters not how very many examples any of you may offer to me of other individuals creating any types of expressions that “make you angry.” Other individual are not making you angry!
Anger is expressed from within, and it is a direct expression of a lack of acceptance of self. It is created inwardly, regardless of outside circumstances or situations. You may become angry in your expression without any interaction of other individuals.
I have interacted with individuals that express extreme anger in relation to situations of objects! They are incorporating great conflict and experiencing extreme anger in relation to their vehicle!
FEMALE: Yeah, cars! (Laughter)
ELIAS: They are experiencing great anger in relation to their new machinery of your computers (laughter) and their “malfunction,” or your vehicle’s “malfunction.”
Now; I shall express to you, this is quite amusing, if not bordering upon ludicrous! (Laughter) For I shall express to you, first of all, that your machinery and your designs of your creations are not – any one of them – malfunctioning. They are not broken. They are not malfunctioning. (Pause, staring at everybody) HA HA! (Laughter)
FEMALE: Yes? How so?
ELIAS: (Emphatically) You PERCEIVE them in this manner, and you create this type of reality through your perception. YOU create a judgment. YOU create an identification and a definition through YOUR perception, which in actuality creates your reality!
Therefore, if you are viewing your vehicle to be broken, you are viewing what you perceive in your definition as broken, and therefore you are creating it. But it is in actuality not broken, for you merely may turn your perception – within one moment, one singular moment, as quickly as turning your gaze – and in the turning of your perception, the vehicle shall NOT be broken, for your perception shall view it as not broken, and your perception, in reality, creates your reality!
In this, I have stated many times, there is no aspect of your reality that is broken. There is no necessity for “fixing,” for there is no aspect of your reality, be it physical, be it emotional, be it mental within yourselves, be it within objects that you create or with your own self physically, emotionally, intellectually ... in ANY aspect that you may identify throughout your reality, regardless of how you identify it, there is no element of your reality that is broken, for there is no expression of consciousness that is less than perfect.
That incorporates YOU. That IS you. It is merely the identification of your beliefs that influence you in the association that you are less than perfect, or that any element within your reality is less than perfect, or is broken or is malfunctioning or is inadequate....
FEMALE: Which takes us back to anger.
ELIAS: Quite, and this is created through a lack of acceptance within YOU. At times it may be created in an extreme of frustration, in your lack of allowance of yourselves to view choices.
FEMALE: To view choices?
ELIAS: Correct. You limit your viewing of your choices, and in this, you create a frustration, and as you continue to spin within your wheel of frustration, you block your viewing of choices more, and you perpetuate this action, and this creates an extreme which manifests in what you identify as anger.
You may engage in interaction with another individual, and you may be expressing anger in relation to what other individuals are creating or what they are expressing, and in this, the lack of acceptance may be expressed in your inability to identify or express control.
In situations that you may not be “dictating to” a situation or another individual, or that you may not be controlling – within your identification of control – the situation or the choices of other individuals or the expressions of other individuals, you create a frustration within self which manifests in extreme and becomes anger.
MALE: So it’s a reaction.
FEMALE: But not to them.
ELIAS: It is a reaction to self.
I have expressed many times, control is an illusion. There is no actual element of control. You do not control your environment. You ARE your environment. You do not control other individuals. You do not even control yourselves! This is a construct of your belief systems, but it is a very strong aspect of belief systems.
You identify this expression of control quite clearly within your definitions. You also clearly identify and define a lack of control. Both are an illusion, but both are created quite realistically within your perceptions, and in this, you are quite responsive to your identifications of both of these counterparts of the same illusion.
You create the frustration, in objective outward terms, in relation to outside elements, outside expressions, or other individuals; in your feeling of lack of control concerning the choices and expressions of other individuals. But you simultaneously are creating an inward lack of acceptance that you are not expressing control of yourself!
MALE: By demonstrating anger.
ELIAS: Quite, and that you are not exhibiting an expression that shall BE manipulating the situation or another individual, therefore expressing a lack of control of your ability.
FEMALE: And then trying to control better!
MALE: So, what do we do?
ELIAS: HA HA! (Grinning, and laughter)
First of all, you identify this and acknowledge this to yourself – that you ARE allowing influence of your beliefs upon your perception. You are allowing these beliefs of control to be creating a film over the lens of your perception and clouding what you view.
You also may allow yourself – once again, in like manner to the identification of the jealousy – [to] recognize that you are holding your attention outside of self. Your anger is being expressed as you incorporate outside elements – activities, interactions – and in this, your attention is not upon you and your energy.
Even within the time frameworks in which individuals turn anger upon themselves, and are not interactive with another individual and may not necessarily be interactive with a physical situation, but may be creating anger as an emotional expression within self, the attention is not upon self inwardly. The attention is upon comparisons and judgments, which is outside of self.
For in turning this anger to self, you are placing a judgment upon yourself that you are not creating some expression good enough, and what is the basis of this assessment? You are not creating in like manner to other individuals.
FEMALE: We do it through our imagination at that point. We’re not in actual relation to a person or a circumstance. It’s being done in here, but it’s being done as if we’re running a movie. We’re having our own discussions and we’re creating our own pictures, and we make those comparisons or we have those conversations or we create those circumstances without anything actually happening out here.
ELIAS: Which is quite real also!
FEMALE: Right ... so our attention isn’t really with self as a core. It’s still with a belief-created reality, with all of our assumptions and all of our guesswork and all of the rest of it to boot.
FEMALE: So, to move to the self at that moment, let’s say that we have identified this process, that it is happening, and we recognize that we are holding ourselves outside of ourselves, whether it’s out there or in here. To move quickly, throughout the ages, it’s like, go meditate ... there’s a million ways, supposedly, to get there.
FEMALE: But what’s the quickest, fastest, easiest way to get back to self, to truly, truly get back to self?
ELIAS: Now; in what we have been discussing, you SHALL move your attention to self. What you are expressing is not the question of moving your attention to self. What you are expressing presently is, how do I eliminate the emotional response? How do I eliminate this emotion of anger? And this is the goal, and this is not the point.
FEMALE: I didn’t think I was asking that.
ELIAS: Ah! (Grinning, and laughter) But in this, you wish the feeling to dissipate.
FEMALE: Sure! (Brief pause) No. Okay, I got it. (Elias grins) So, we’re not looking for that to dissipate. In fact, we are looking for ourselves to encompass it, embrace it....
ELIAS: This is the situation and the subject of perception.
Let me express to you, you may be incorporating actions, and you may perceive an action in many different manners, and how you perceive it shall alter the expression, therefore altering the reality, in actuality.
In this, you may create a physical pain, and if you are perceiving this pain to be bad, and if you are placing the judgment upon this pain that it is unacceptable and you are not liking of it, you shall hold a specific perception and experience in relation to that identification.
This is an influence of the belief upon the perception. If you believe it to be bad, you shall perceive it in a specific manner, which you shall thusly identify as uncomfortable and that you are not liking of this, and your automatic response is to be eliminating it.
You may create a pain, which is merely a physical incorporation of feeling, and as an influence of your beliefs, you may not necessarily identify this as negative, and in this, your beliefs shall influence your perception, and you shall create a reality and an experience entirely different ... with the SAME action.
FEMALE: Right. I know people who do it! I’m around people who do it all the time.
ELIAS: (Intently) The pain itself is neutral. It is merely a physical feeling which is incorporated through your senses.
In this, the physical affectingness is not necessarily the aspect that you seek to eliminate. In actuality, you are not seeking to eliminate....
FEMALE: ...the pain.
ELIAS: Correct. You are seeking to alter a perception. How you alter your perception is, allowing yourself to widen your awareness.
You allow yourself the recognition of your beliefs; what beliefs are influencing your perception. You allow yourself to identify your creation of your perception, your participation in these actions. For many times, in relation to this particular emotion of anger, many individuals are NOT identifying their participation, EXCEPT for the creation of the emotion! But you ARE participating quite fully in an action that is occurring.
Therefore, identifying your participation, identifying the beliefs that are influencing of your perception, allowing yourselves to be within the now ... key point! For many times within the exhibition of this emotion of anger, you are NOT within the now, although you express that you are, and “if you were not within the now, you would not be participating within this emotion of anger.”
And I shall express to you once again, this is ludicrous! You are participating within the association of past or the anticipation of future: “I am angry for the reason that this has occurred pastly. I am angry, for I anticipate that this shall continue futurely.” This is not what is occurring within the now! Therefore, key point – that you allow yourself to hold your attention within the now.
And as you accomplish these actions ... and let me express to you as an aside, merely in the identification of these actions, you shall sufficiently distract yourselves in this type of attention that you shall not be experiencing the intensity of the anger, for you are too BUSY (laughter) identifying all that you are participating within!
But shall you incorporate these actions, you also may allow yourselves to turn your attention to self; to discontinue holding your attention outside of self, which is an automatic response and moves quite efficiently in the expression of duplicity, which shall influence you quite strongly to continue to hold your attention outside of self, for you are exceedingly fond of this: (Elias starts pointing around the room) Pointing, pointing, pointing, pointing, blaming, blaming, blaming, blaming. “It is not myself that is creating this. It is every other individual and situation upon my planet, in my universe, within the cosmos which is exacting all of these actions upon me, and woe is myself! I am the poor victim, and I am responding quite angrily, for I wish not to be the victim.”
For in the role of the victim, you eliminate your choices. You discount yourself. You eliminate your power. You do not acknowledge all that you are. You do not view your choices. You allow outside elements to dictate to you. This reinforces a lack of trust within self and a lack of acceptance.
I shall express to you quite strongly, you are expressing, in the emotion of anger, a lack of trust and a lack of acceptance of self, and you camouflage this in the expression of a lack of trust or a lack of acceptance to the outside expression, be it a situation, a circumstance, an object, or an individual.
FEMALE: It becomes a whole other thing. My dear daughter is such a teacher to me. She’ll stop me in the midst of that angry response to something that she’s about to do or is doing or isn’t even doing with that exact question of, why do you assume that I am doing what I did before, or that I will continue to do what I did before? Actually, if a child....
ELIAS: And a lack of trust is expressed in what you term to be defense. This is your expression of protection.
FEMALE: Yeah, that it is....
ELIAS: This is your shield that you place before yourselves, that you are not trusting and accepting of yourselves, and your fear is that this shall be discovered. Therefore, you place the shield of defense, and this shall block the energy of other individuals.
MALE: The shield is what exactly?
ELIAS: Defensiveness. It is an efficient shield, for it not merely blocks energy of other individuals, but it also blocks your own energy to yourselves. It turns your attention away from yourself.
You may view how very convoluted all of these expressions are in actuality, for you view yourselves to be doing quite the opposite!
FEMALE: Convoluted is a good word!
ELIAS: You express to yourselves, as you are exhibiting defense, that you ARE paying attention to yourselves, but you are not. You are focusing your attention quite intensely upon the actions and expressions of other individuals.
We shall break, and if you are so choosing, we may be continuing with your questions.
FEMALE: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. (Chuckling)
BREAK: 3:16 p.m.
RESUME: 3:38 p.m. (Arrival time is 13 seconds.)
ELIAS: Continuing! (Laughter, and Elias chuckles)
MALE: I have a question. I’ve been dealing with something that is foreign to me. The feeling of joy and elation is very much part of me, and I find that it’s hard to interact with people sometimes who aren’t feeling that, and at times, I think that I can be too happy for people! (Laughing)
I guess my question is, how do I balance that, particularly with relationships, friendships, people that I’m close to?
ELIAS: I shall express to you, once again, this is involving of the subject of difference, and the difficulties that you encounter as you view differences.
In this, many times, experiencing emotions that you view to be positive – joyfulness, elation, any identification of happiness, so to speak – may be labeled by yourselves as inappropriate at times, for you create an association within yourself that you must be expressing your energy in compliance with other individuals’ energies.
Therefore, you may be experiencing much joyfulness within your experiences, and you may be interacting with other individuals that may be creating different emotional expressions, ones that you view to be contrary or opposite to that which you are creating.
In this, there is an automatic response – once again, in relation to duplicity – in which you and other individuals create a thought that you need be gearing your expression as more suitable to the other individual’s expression.
Now; at times you create this action, for you wish not to be creating, in your thought process and perception, an enhancement of the other individual’s creation.
Let us express an example – that you may be quite carefree within a moment, and you are interactive with another individual that may be expressing their energy quite solemnly, or within an emotion of anger or sadness or frustration.
You wish not to be perpetuating or enhancing, in your thoughts, the emotion that the other individual is expressing, for you are, in like manner to themselves, identifying these emotions as negative.
Therefore, you wish to be sharing your expression, for you view this to be positive, but you wish not to be incorporating enhancement of the other individual’s despair, that they are not sharing in your light-heartedness.
At times, you may even incorporate some elements of guilt, that you are experiencing happiness simultaneous to other individuals that are creating emotions that you view to be negative.
Now; once again, in like manner to our discussion of jealousy, in recognizing that your expression is your reality and is what you are creating, and this is quite acceptable and needs not be altered, you may also recognize within you that you do not create other individuals’ realities.
You also influence other individuals as they allow you to influence. You are not automatically influencing of other individuals, for it is the choice of another individual to allow that influence.
Your responsibility lies with you – in what you create and within your reality. You do not hold responsibility for other individuals.
Let me also express to you, I am quite aware of how all of you listen to these words that I am expressing to you, and at different points within your time framework, you may reflect upon these words and you may express, “Yes, BUT.” (Grinning) “BUT, Elias, how may I be not concerning myself with the reality of another individual and what they are expressing, and continue to be expressing compassion for that individual?” And you may.
I am not expressing to you that as you turn your attention to self, that you automatically eliminate any other emotions that you may express in relation to other individuals, or that you are not caring of other individuals, or that you do not exhibit compassion for other individuals. But be remembering, there is no element within reality that is broken.
An individual may be experiencing frustration or jealousy or sadness or anger or anxiety. They may be expressing a myriad of emotional qualities that you deem to be negative or uncomfortable.
ALL of these expressions are chosen. ALL of these expressions are beneficial. ALL of these expressions are purposeful. If you are not choosing to be experiencing a particular emotion, you shall not experience it, quite simply!
This is, once again, the identification of the role of victim, that you express to yourselves that you are not choosing to be experiencing certain expressions, but you ARE. You are NOT victims.
(Firmly) You are creating every element, every aspect, every moment of your reality. No other individual is creating it for you.
In this, in recognizing that you may not be creating of another individual’s reality, allow yourself to identify why you are becoming uncomfortable with your happiness. Why are you judging your happiness in relation to the expression of another individual?
You may be identifying that you are responsive to the response of another individual. You may be presenting yourself within behavior [as] quite elated, and another individual may express to you what appears to be irritation. They may be annoyed with your display of behavior. This is THEIR expression.
It is not a value judgment upon you unless you create that. It is not an evaluation of you or your worth, or your rightness or your wrongness. It is an expression of themselves in THEIR experience.
In this, it is not your concern to be assuming personal responsibility for the expression and the choices of the other individual. It IS your responsibility to turn your attention to self, and to evaluate why you are in agreement with them, and why you are placing the judgment upon yourself.
I may express to you, in relation to your identification that you may be too happy, and I say to you, individuals in general, in relation to emotions, may not be too happy or too sad or too frustrated or too jealous or too ANYTHING. You merely are expressing what you are expressing.
In this, you create a judgment of moderation. Any expression, any element within your reality may be expressed in moderation, and this is acceptable, even joyfulness, even pleasure, sadness, anger – ANY expression, within your definitions, is acceptable in moderation. But beyond your identification of moderation, it is no longer acceptable, even joyfulness.
In this, once again, as you hold your attention outside of self and you create comparisons, you shall create the judgment upon self that your expression of happiness is too much and not acceptable. It may even be judged to be hurtful to other individuals, but what you are expressing may not be hurtful to other individuals unless they are choosing to be creating of that.
Even those expressions that you agree upon as negative, and that you all within this forum presently would identify as hurtful actions, must be perceived by the receiver as hurtful to be hurtful. Even your intention of being hurtful may not be hurtful without the acceptance of that by the receiver.
You may intend to be joyful to an individual, and they may translate that energy, and they may create hurtfulness within themselves. You may intend to be hurtful to another individual, and they may receive this in playfulness. Therefore, it matters not.
If you are inquiring as to, “What matters, Elias?” – for I have expressed to you all so very often of what matters not! – I shall express to you, what matters is you and your perception and your viewing of self, for in this, as you allow yourself acceptance and trust, you offer yourself freedom, and within this expression of freedom, you are affecting of ALL of consciousness. (Pause)
Therefore, my friend, as you express to yourself a moment in which you question yourself in the expression of happiness and you question your expression and your behavior in relation to other individuals, be mindful of the jealousy, and you may be expressing your own jealousy and be reveling in it, as to the knowing of self and the acceptance of your expression. (Chuckling)
MALE: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
FEMALE: I want to ask a question for Mary.
ELIAS: You may.
FEMALE: I hadn’t thought of it for me, necessarily, but it’s there. How difficult it is to be in the presence of someone who is sad; how relatively helpless one feels; it’s so incredibly uncomfortable. As I was speaking with her earlier ... well, no. I’ll speak for myself, actually. There’s a natural empathy that goes out to someone who is sad, and there’s an attempt, although hopefully it may be gentle, to elevate a person out of whatever sadness they’re in. But it’s such a nebulous ... who knows what they’re sad about, necessarily? I don’t even know what I’m asking here. It’s not a wanting to get away from that person because I don’t want to deal with the sadness, but it’s not wanting to be dragged down also.
FEMALE: And it’s wanting to uplift, if possible.
ELIAS: Quite. (Grinning) And how shall you approach this??
ELIAS: This is an interesting emotion that you incorporate, this sadness.
Now; in this emotion, you are correct – there is an element that many individuals experience in empathy. There is also oftentimes an expression of your empathic sense, which creates a mergence between yourself and another individual, and as they are experiencing this emotion of sadness, at times – not always – you may be experiencing this emotion with the individual.
In this one particular emotion of sadness, you create this empathic action much more freely and much more frequently than you do in relation to other emotions, even happiness, even elation. You shall allow yourselves to be engaging your empathic sense more freely and easier in relation to sadness than you shall in relation to joyfulness, for in the encounter of individuals in joyfulness, you yourself as an individual may continue to maintain what you are creating within your emotional expression, be it different.
Conversely, as you interact with an individual that is expressing genuine sadness in emotion, many individuals experience difficulty in their separation from that particular emotion. You automatically engage empathy ... which is not your empathic sense. It is another (in chorus with the group) emotion! (Grinning)
In this, as you engage the emotion of empathy, you also incorporate thought and memory; memory not merely in thought, but you engage memory in what we may term to be even a cellular manner, for your body consciousness responds to memories of YOUR experiences in this emotion of sadness.
In this, there are automatic actions that occur in a physical tensing. Your neurological system is automatically, immediately affected. Your breathing is automatically, immediately affected. Your sense input within your outer senses are heightened.
Sadness creates, in interaction with – generally speaking, although it is not the rule – an automatic response within individuals that easily triggers fear. (Pause)
The fear is the expression of very much a lack of choices, a lack of viewing choices, a sensation of being static and stationary, which many times with many individuals translates into a feeling of being stuck. The fear may also be triggered in relation to memory, in the feeling of uncomfortableness and your desire to not be engaging that feeling also.
Even within expressions in which you are not engaging that particular fear, and you are merely allowing yourself to be engaging the other individual that is creating this sadness, you may experience an uncomfortableness in what you have identified as this helplessness, a powerlessness.
You have also identified your desire to be raising up or lifting up the other individual, in an attempt to not allow yourself to be dragging down; the down as the sad, and the raising up as other than the sad.
The conflict arises, once again, in your inability to view choices and in the lack of acceptance of the emotion itself, and the justification for the lack of acceptance is that the other individual is uncomfortable and wishes not to be uncomfortable. Therefore, you wish to be helpful and offer to the other individual some expression that shall raise them up out of the depths of despair and sadness.
Now; the mass belief system which is influencing is that sadness is not good. Some element of hurtfulness has occurred which is creating this emotion of sadness.
Therefore, as you engage another individual that is expressing this particular emotion, and you allow yourself the recognition that this is not a negative emotion – and that you shall not be dragged to the depths with this individual, even if you are engaging your empathic sense and experiencing the sadness with them – as you eliminate the judgment of the bad and you merely allow the expression, you neutralize much of this particular emotion’s affectingness.
In this, once again, you are quite conditioned – and you have conditioned yourselves quite efficiently – to be “doing and fixing,” for you wish to change the expression, but the expression needs not be changed. The expression is acceptable as it is.
And I may express to you that you each may experiment with this particular emotion ... and you may incorporate this experimentation in relation to all of the other emotions also, but you may allow yourself more of an ease initially with this particular emotion than you may necessarily with other emotions.
As you encounter another individual that may be expressing sadness, and you allow yourself to be accepting of their expression merely as their expression, recognizing that you need not express, you need not do, you need not fix, you may merely BE, and if you are so choosing, you may engage your empathic sense and you may be sad also with the individual – or not, it matters not – and in this, as you do not attempt to alter the emotion, as you do not attempt to change it, but you merely allow yourself to experience it and be accepting of that as an experience within the now, you may surprise yourself in the alteration of your perception.
For in allowing yourself to merely experience, without judgment and without attempting to change the emotion or the experience, you allow yourself to create the perception of....
Vic’s note: Here, the tape ends at 4:13 p.m. Sheesh! All that typing, and I don’t even get to experience the end of the session! But I guess it’s just as well, as Elias was starting to create some pretty interesting sentences, shall we say. And I just have to toss in one last comment regarding, “I shall not present a dissertation.” This entire session was a dissertation! Ha!
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