Tuesday, November 07, 2000
“Dream and Waking Imagery”
“Defining Genuine Arrogance”
“Thought – A Facilitating Tool”
Participants: Mary (Michael), Dale (Jene), and Mary (Karla).
Elias arrives at 10:28 a.m. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
MARY: Good morning, Elias!
DALE: Good morning! (Elias chuckles)
MARY: Dale is here too.
ELIAS: Very well!
DALE: With my head on!
DALE: Thank you very much!
ELIAS: This may be beneficial! (Laughter)
MARY: Very much so, in this world here! (Elias chuckles) As you may know, I’ve been creating a lot of conflict lately, and I was going to talk to you about that today, and then I changed my mind and decided that I think I know what I’m creating, and I’m trying to listen to my little voice more, so I’m not gonna ask you about it. I’m just gonna take care of it myself.
ELIAS: Very well.
MARY: Okay. I’d like to start with a couple of questions about essence family info for friends.
ELIAS: Very well.
MARY: The first one ... if I could have the orientation too, that would be great. The first one is my ex-husband Wiley. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Marcos. Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Zuli; orientation, common.
MARY: Okay, and the next one is my friend Candy. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Licia; L-I-C-I-A. (lee’see-ah) Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Gramada; orientation, common.
MARY: Okay, and the last one is my friend Jimmy. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Sunnet; S-U-N-N-E-T. (sue’net) Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.
MARY: Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: You are welcome.
MARY: I’d like to ask you about Sunnet. Has he chosen a current probability of disengagement? (Pause)
ELIAS: I shall pose the question to you. What is your impression?
MARY: My impression is that he has chosen a probability. I just don’t know if it’s the most probable probability. I don’t know ... I’m not sure what I’m thinking there. I think he has chosen the probability.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, within this moment, the choice has not been created to engage this action, although this may alter within another moment.
MARY: Which it could for any of us.
MARY: Okay, thank you. Okay, is my musical note B-flat? That’s the note that I resonate with ... I think.
MARY: I see. Okay, I have another question. Way back when I had my blue sky vision, and you said that it was an introduction between us, who was rubbing my knee? At first I thought it was the dog, but she wasn’t even in the room! (Laughing)
ELIAS: I shall express to you that this is a momentary experience that you have allowed in objective recognition of other movements of consciousness within your same space arrangement.
Now; this also is quite in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, and may be likened to other individuals’ experiences of momentarily viewing or holding an awareness of a presence within their space arrangement, but as they turn to view, they do not visually allow the recognition of that presence.
You have chosen to allow an actual physical awareness of contact, rather than the sweepings of movement that you do not visually view.
MARY: That’s very interesting, because I’ve been noticing a lot of that. Last night was an example of that. I’ve been noticing a lot of that lately. It’s very interesting.
ELIAS: I shall express to you, many individuals are allowing these types of encounters much more frequently in this time framework, and the key expression in the allowance of objective awareness of these encounters is, as you have stated, to be noticing and paying attention; which in this time framework, at this point within your movement of awareness and this shift in consciousness – and partially in credit to myself and my information, ha ha ha ha ha! – you are allowing yourselves to be noticing much more.
MARY: Well, I sure do thank you for all this information, ‘cause it sure helps me to notice a lot!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) You are quite welcome!
MARY: There is something else I wanted to ask you. Quite a few months ago now, my son, periodically through his life, my older son, has chosen to sleepwalk during short periods of time, in increments of time. During one of these times a few months ago, I was lying in bed and I wasn’t quite asleep yet, and the room was dark and I was closing my eyes to go to bed, and I heard a noise and I saw that it was my son getting up, and I heard a movement and I opened my eyes, and he was standing beside my bed and he was talking to me. He was agitated, a little agitated, and he was talking to me. I couldn’t hear what he said, so I lifted my head a little bit and inquired as to what he said, and all of a sudden, he just dissipated! He just disappeared into thin air! It was kind of a cool experience, but what was up with that?
ELIAS: This is your allowance to be participating objectively and recognizing, and once again noticing, the movement of a projection.
MARY: A projection of his ...
MARY: ... essence?
MARY: In this focus?
ELIAS: ...of him projecting within consciousness.
MARY: I wondered about that.
ELIAS: ...that which you identify as an out-of-body experience.
MARY: That he created?
MARY: And I participated in?
MARY: Oh! That’s very cool! Okay, thank you.
I wanted to give you a couple of impressions and connections that I’ve had, and see what you have to say about it. I’ve had a strong connection with the name Catherine, and I really haven’t connected with where that’s coming from, but it felt pretty strong to me. I wondered if it was connected to a focus I had with Sandra. When I first met him eighteen years ago, I just knew ... I felt that we had lived another life together, and my impression is that we lived in a 19th century outlet on a homestead, and we were very happy. I had another impression of him riding off to war or something, and I felt seized within myself now in this focus – I felt seized with the fear that he would not return – and I just wondered if you could comment on that.
ELIAS: I shall acknowledge your impression as to the identification of this shared focus, and the actions that are occurring in that shared focus. You are correct.
As to the identification of this name and your draw to this name, you are also correct that this draw is in relation to this other individual, but not as the identification of you and your name, so to speak, within that particular focus, but that this is the physical naming of this other individual within another focus that you participate within together and hold a strong relationship.
MARY: Oh, Sandra?
MARY: Oh, okay. Alright. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
MARY: Another connection I had, and for some reason this impressed me, was in a dream I had. It was a dream about a big black woman in the 1930s, I think, and her name was Breeza, and I think she took in people’s laundry or something. But the thing that I really remember about the feeling I got from her was the great energy. She had great energy surrounding her, and she was loved by everybody, especially by the children. I can see her sitting on the city stoop, surrounded by the neighborhood children, and the name Breeza just kept floating through my head, and I wondered if you could comment on that.
ELIAS: You are correct.
MARY: I am?
MARY: Okay, thank you. Also, I saw clearly a dark-skinned man in a red turban. Is there any kind of connection there?
ELIAS: In relation to this other individual? No.
MARY: No, not in relation to the other individual. This was like completely different.
ELIAS: In relation to you, yes. As another focus of you, yes.
MARY: Okay. Can you give me an idea of what time frame that was, and the location? (Pause)
ELIAS: Physical location, what you identify as Egypt. Time framework, early 1700s.
DALE: May I interject and ask if that was a shared focus with me and Chui too? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
DALE: There you go, Karla!
MARY: Okay! Let’s see. I think I want to ask you about my intent, ‘cause it’s been a tough one for me, trying to figure out and trust my impressions about that. My visual is this: I see myself stirring an enormous cauldron of boiling remembrance, and it’s like sediment that has settled on the bottom of the pot is stirred up, which would be my Sumari family, and it escapes with the steam, representing the remembrance, which would be my Milumet alignment. Do I sort of stir the pot to engage the remembrance?
ELIAS: Within yourself, yes.
MARY: Okay, and as far as other individuals?
ELIAS: At times, but I may also express to you that you do not engage this action consistently with other individuals.
MARY: Okay, thank you. Also, I have been noticing a tremendous ... I mean, duplicity is attached to just about everything I can think of in this dimension. In the last session we had, we discussed the less clarity issue thing that I was going through ... which by the way, I really appreciate all that information. Am I moving in an efficient manner in my intent, in not feeling the draw to over-analyze certain beliefs? Because there is sort of a vague knowing inside of me, at times, of just knowing, and it’s vague, but I find myself letting go, and then I wonder if I’m just being lazy and fearful, and not really wanting to address to these beliefs, which of course brings up more issues of duplicity. I know that I want to trust myself, but the familiar keeps on beckoning, if you know what I mean.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
MARY: Does this have something to do with transition, the not analyzing too much part?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, but I may express to you that within the influence of your family alignment, this is an expression that moves naturally within you.
MARY: Okay, that’s what I thought.
ELIAS: I may express to you, [in] your allowance of yourself to be expressing in this manner, regardless that you hold a clear or vague objective understanding of the knowing, you are allowing yourself to create less complication by not analyzing each movement that you create extensively.
MARY: Yeah. This just feels more comfortable to me.
ELIAS: It allows you much more of a freedom of movement.
You are not blocking yourself or creating this action in laziness or in any expression that you consider to be negative. You are merely allowing yourself to move in your own expression of freedom, which may be expressed differently than other individuals that you view and interact with around you.
But it is a free flow of energy within you, which is also another area that we discussed in our previous meeting – allowing yourself to move in your own free flow of energy, without the incorporation of comparison of yourself to other individuals.
MARY: Right. In other words, just try to compare ... you had said, try to compare myself with myself versus comparing myself with other individuals.
ELIAS: In this, let me express to you, you may move beyond this expression, as you have incorporated a time framework to be assimilating this information, and you may allow yourself to move outside of the expression of comparison, period.
MARY: Okay, thank you. One real quick thing that I wanted to bring up, and then Dale would like to talk to you.
Over the years, and it’s been a while now, but for quite a while I used to have recurring dreams about being shot at. I’ve had dreams of actually my mother and father chasing me in their station wagon over hill and dale – excuse the pun, Dale! – and running from them, and my father was shooting at me, and that was just a very bizarre thing. I think it stems from this focus, in feeling like the black sheep in my family, for whatever reason.
But I’ve had other dreams too. I had a recurring dream a couple of times, of running through darkened, deserted streets, surrounded by tall old brick buildings, and running around corners and being hunted and shot at, and I also, at one point, experienced a definite feeling of being shot in the back and that burning sensation. Then I started thinking, and I was wondering if it had to do with a connection of a focus in Europe somewhere, during World War II perhaps?
ELIAS: Let me express to you first of all, yes, you do hold a focus in that time framework and in that physical location, but not all incorporations of repetitive dream imagery is suggestive of some activity or action that is occurring within another focus.
Many times it may be associated with another focus, and in allowing oneself to be viewing that particular focus in which those actions are occurring, the individual allows themselves to release that energy, in a manner of speaking, and the dream imagery many, many times shall discontinue.
But I shall also say to you that not all repetitive dream imagery is necessarily associated with this type of action with another focus.
This particular creation of dream imagery that you engage is not associated with another focus. This is imagery that you are creating in this focus in association with the beliefs that you hold, in conjunction with your assessment of self and how you view or perceive that other individuals perceive you, and this is directly associated with your measurement of self in value and worth. This be the reason that it is repeated dream imagery.
Be remembering, the imagery that you present to yourself in dreams is a translation into objective associations.
In this, the translation is of subjective actions. The subjective actions parallel simultaneously and are in harmony with the objective movement.
Even within the time frameworks that an individual may be creating the translation of imagery in association with another focus, they are purposefully creating that translation, as it parallels what they are also creating in that now within their objective movement.
Your subjective and objective do not “follow” each other. They move simultaneously and they move in harmony to each other.
Therefore, as you create movement subjectively and you translate that movement objectively through dream imagery, you are communicating to yourself through another avenue the same information that you are communicating to yourself objectively.
Now; what is quite interesting in these situations is that individuals engage interaction with myself, and quite commonly and quite frequently present dream imagery for interpretation, for most of you view your dream imagery as obscure and abstract.
Therefore, you interpret that you present yourself with a challenge in attempting to interpret the imagery that you have presented to yourself.
In this, let me express to you, many, many, many times, what you are creating objectively may be more obscure and abstractly created than the simplicity and obviousness of your dream imagery!
MARY: That makes sense!
ELIAS: For within your waking state, you have become extremely creative in your ability to be obscuring and complicating your movement to sufficiently confuse yourself!
And I shall express to you, in that movement, for the most part, many, many, many of you – most of you, in actuality, even within this present time framework – have not yet moved yourselves into a continuous, consistent holding of your attention within the now, or an automatic expression of noticing, or a genuine expression of familiarity with yourselves.
This be the reason that you acknowledge yourselves in the action of noticing, for it is not automatic yet, and it continues to be an element that you notice – that you ARE noticing.
You are familiar with yourselves, in physical terms, in small percentage of the objective capability of being familiar with yourselves.
In this, as you create your objective imagery in waking state – which you believe to be the “real” expression, your “real life,” so to speak, (chuckling) – many, many, many times you are not paying attention to what you are creating, and you are creating your imagery in obscurity, whereas you ARE paying attention to the imagery that you present to yourselves in dreams.
MARY: The feeling is what is holding most of the information in the dream state, wouldn’t you say?
ELIAS: I shall express to you that the underlying feeling and emotion that you present to yourself within dream imagery is a very large communication to you, as to the actual movement and identification of this dream imagery and its translation in communication with you.
I have stated recently that there are many, many avenues of communication that you offer to yourselves continuously within every moment of your participation within this physical reality, but you choose to hold your attention in very few avenues of communication.
In this, for the most part, you allow yourselves to pay attention to your thoughts and to your emotions, but these are merely two avenues of communication.
You also confuse yourselves tremendously, for you are incorporating the action of thought in a manner in which you have not designed it to be implemented. You incorporate thought at times to be analyzing emotion, at other times to be overriding emotion, at times to be eliminating emotion, and many times to be discounting of your movements.
Let me express to you, thought is one avenue of communication that you have created in this physical dimension.
Now; this is not to say that other physical dimensions do not incorporate some creations of thought, for they do. But you have created a very specific design of thought, within this physical dimension, as a tool.
It is a facilitating tool to be identifying. It offers you a means in which you may objectively identify other avenues of communication. It allows you one avenue of defining other avenues of communication. It is NOT designed to override other avenues of communication, which you incorporate many times.
MARY: That rings true to me. Does that mean that within my part, I kinda move in harmony, as far as not over-analyzing things? Because lots of times, this feels more real, just to let the analyzing of the thought part go, and just feel ... there’s a comfort in just knowing something, and it’s not ... it doesn’t even have to be clear. Even a vague knowing feels more comfortable to me.
ELIAS: Within your individual expression, this action is moving more in a natural flow of expression of energy for you.
Now; there are some individuals that incorporate a tremendous quantity of action in thought ... and I am not expressing to you or to any individual that the incorporation of thought, or the lack of incorporation of thought, may be better or worse.
ELIAS: I am expressing that thought has been designed by you, through choice in this physical dimension, as a function of communication, but merely ONE function of communication, and this communication is designed in actuality to offer you information in clarity, in definition and identification, not as a replacement for other avenues of communication.
MARY: Other avenues of communication would include telepathic and empathic senses?
MARY: Do I use those?
MARY: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
MARY: Say, Elias, have you been playing the air hockey game in my basement, with the bells going off once in a while? (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) Or not?
ELIAS: Not! (Grinning)
MARY: Okay! (Laughing)
ELIAS: This is energy which is being expressed in movement by another essence, not myself.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I shall express to you, an essence that participates in the facilitation of this energy exchange, and you may be allowing yourself your impression.
MARY: Is it Tomkin?
MARY: (Laughing) Okay, alright. One more real, real, real quick one, if we keep it quick, ‘cause Dale wants to talk too.
What am I creating ... I think I know what I’m creating. Never mind! (Elias chuckles) I was gonna say, I think what I’m creating, with my right ear plugging so much, is kind of obvious. It’s showing me that I’m not looking to myself, or maybe not staying in the moment.
ELIAS: Ha ha! And that you may be paying attention!
MARY: Okay, alright. Elias, thank you. Thank you very much!
ELIAS: You are very welcome!
DALE: Nice segue! (Elias chuckles) Actually, I got the impression that my thoughts, that sometimes my thinking and my analyzation that I sometimes perpetuate, is kind of really my intent to ... with the exchange, that I don’t need to perpetuate it because I’ve noticed it now, but that I do in a sense move in that movement, in an effort to ... for my exchange intent.
ELIAS: At times.
DALE: Regarding my adventures in trauma, I stifled my energy so much that it stagnated and became a fungus! (Laughter) I think mostly what I interpret that I was showing myself was bringing into my objective reality the conceptualization of the concept that I DO indeed create my own reality, and I create all the infinite possibilities in each now choice.
ELIAS: Yes, and that you CHOOSE.
DALE: Yes, each choice. Oh, it’s ... wow! It’s like webbed.
ELIAS: And that in these choices, you have chosen them purposefully, and you are NOT a victim.
DALE: Correct. (Elias chuckles) But wow! (Laughing) But wow! I also notice that I don’t fear what I don’t know. I fear what I DO know, and it also ties in with imagery of me getting my head chopped off and losing my head. It gave me a BIG head.
I think I have a huge fear of arrogance, which I also notice there’s a lot of bleed-through action ... and actually, I’d like confirmation that that is a correct impression. But also knowing that I fear what I know, I’d like to know how shying away... I’ll let you offer to me.
ELIAS: I shall validate to you your identification of fear and obstacle that is affecting of your movement, your creations, and your behaviors, and this is in relation to the identification of arrogance and your belief in association with that.
I may express to you individually, as a suggestion, that you allow yourself to relax and examine this belief that is affecting of you, for in the affectingness of this particular belief, you move back and forth, in a manner of speaking. Your objective behavior mirrors that belief consistently, but the expression of the behavior moves in different types of expressions.
At times it moves into retreat, in which you wish not to appear as arrogant to yourself or to other individuals, and you create a heightened sensitivity to what you perceive as the responsiveness of other individuals. At other times, you create the mirror in a different type of expression, and you express within your behavior your allowance of yourself to BE arrogant, in your definition of it.
Both expressions are different manifestations of the same influence of the same aspect of the belief, and both expressions are created coupled with duplicitous judgment within you. Neither of these expressions, in your physical terms, is workable. Neither of these expressions is entirely acceptable within you, and they become confusing, and a struggle.
In this, arrogance – in genuineness – is a genuine expression of acceptance within self, which needs no force of energy. It merely is. Therefore, there is a calm and a relaxation of energy, an allowance of flow. There is no question in the expression of self, for there is a genuine acceptance of self.
This is a genuine expression of arrogance, for the expressions that other individuals may present to you shall matter not in opposition, for in that acceptance, in THAT expression of arrogance, there shall be no incorporation of threat within yourself. Difference continues to express threat. It creates a questioning within self as to your worthiness, your rightness, your wrongness, your value.
In this, in the expression of the definition of arrogance in YOUR terms, there is a projection of energy which holds an element of force within it. It is a projection of energy outward, expressing to yourself and to other individuals outwardly that you know what you know.
Let me express to you, in genuineness, as you know what you know, it is unnecessary to project the force of energy. It merely is.
DALE: Exactly. Well, I did write that – I know what I know! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
DALE: It is quite interesting that I wrote exactly – well, in much less words – that on another list yesterday, about how I only tweak when I’m not sure of myself, not ... when I know what I know, I have no need to convince.
DALE: Joan of Arc – similar resonance within intent. I think she would say something like, “Be true to God,” but to me, it seems like it’s something like, “To thine own self be true.”
DALE: Okay. Within that, my choice to be an intuitive facilitator, is that within harmony with my intent?
ELIAS: Yes. Be careful that you do not insert the manipulation of your energy to be influencing with other individuals, but continuously creating an allowance in acceptance.
DALE: And the most beneficial way to do that is to keep reminding myself that it’s all about me.
DALE: Was James Speer – the architect Speer? (Pause)
ELIAS: No, but holds an association with this individual.
DALE: Okay. What’s my connection to Ayla?
ELIAS: What is your impression?
DALE: Well, I remember a meditation a long time ago where I think that name came to me, and so when I saw the name, I was wondering if there was a connection. Well, I mean of course there’s a connection within this exchange ...
DALE: ... but a more individual connection.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) You are correct – there is an association within the exchange. There is also a knowing of the energy of this essence.
Let me express to you, as I have expressed previously, it is not accidental that you and any other individual draw yourselves to this particular forum to be offering yourselves information objectively, for you ARE interconnected – all of you – with the essences that are facilitating of this exchange.
Many of you – yourself also – have engaged focuses with these essences in physical manifestations. Many of you have participated in movement within other areas of consciousness, yourself also.
I may express to you that you in actuality participate with that essence more within other-dimensional focuses than do you within this particular dimensional focus.
DALE: So I’m not going to start channeling her or anything, huh?
ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA HA! (Laughter)
MARY: He’s not going to answer that one!
ELIAS: Ha ha! I shall express to you the response in your expectation – this would be your choice! Ha ha ha ha! But this would also be the choice of that essence, and I may express to you that that essence, within this time framework, moves not in the direction of that type of exchange with individuals within physical manifestation.
MARY: She’s busy enough with the rest of you!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! (Laughter)
DALE: Okay, a quick one. In the Egypt focus – the shared focus of us three – was Karla also ... did she choose being “other”? (Elias chuckles and Mary laughs) And also, was she ... well, she would be he! Was she also some sort of authority figure?
ELIAS: (Humorously) An “other” authority figure, and that may be translated “otherwise” as a soft authority figure! (Laughing)
DALE: Okay! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Oh, horror at the thought! (Laughing)
I may express to you, this individual effects a relative authority position in that focus, but is not participating in the choice of orientation of soft in that focus.
Your orientation is not an expression that is created throughout the entirety of essence. Your orientation is a choice of each manifestation.
DALE: Okay, I’m confused. My direct question was, I was wondering if that focus was what we term as homosexual.
ELIAS: Which is also not the designation of other! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
DALE: At first you said that they were male, female, and other!
MARY: He’s playing with you, Dale!
ELIAS: HA HA HA HA!
DALE: These are your terms! I’m playing by your rules!
ELIAS: Which have been adjusted, have they not?
DALE: That they have! Which, may we dispel a misinterpretation? Common people aren’t all ... not common people. Common orientation aren’t all big talkers, are they?
DALE: There! (Laughter)
ELIAS: Soft individuals are not all homosexual! (Laughter)
MARY: True! I know at the beginning of this information, I think that was distorted.
DALE: There is much misinterpreting of the orientation information, I think.
ELIAS: Homosexuality is a preference. It is NOT an orientation.
MARY: So was I homosexual? (Laughing)
ELIAS: If you are inquiring as to the PREFERENCE of an individual, or this individual – which is NOT the identification of other, ha ha ha ha ha! – I may express to you that within that particular focus, this individual does move in a preference of engaging relationships with the same physical gender as self.
MARY: That’s the least distortion. Oh, in regards to that, Elias, I’m sure you noticed the Vatican has forgiven you!
ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA! (Laughter) I shall be so honored! Ha ha ha ha ha! And we are aware of my definition of forgiveness. Therefore, it is the ending of the discussion! (Chuckling, and more laughter)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
MARY: Elias, I think we’re ... are you done, Dale?
MARY: Okay. I was going to ask if you had anything more to offer for me personally, but I’ll wait.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall express to you that you may continue to be noticing. Continue to be practicing within the now, and genuinely allowing yourself to become more and more familiar with you, by holding your attention with you. In this, you may both be engaging this action, and it may be quite beneficial to you.
I shall express to you in closing also, be aware objectively and remembering that you continue to be participating within this wave in consciousness of duplicity, and it IS gaining momentum rapidly.
MARY: Boy, it feels like it. It sure feels like it!
ELIAS: Therefore, as you continue to allow yourself awareness of this, you may also allow yourselves to be examining without discounting.
MARY: Okay. Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
DALE: Thank you.
ELIAS: I express to you each and to you both tremendous affection, and a tremendous anticipation of our continued interaction. I offer to you each my expression of energy in love. To you both, au revoir.
MARY: I love you too, Elias. Au revoir.
Elias departs at 11:34 a.m.
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