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Sunday, March 10, 1996

<  Session 77 (Group/Castaic)  >


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), and Jim (Yarr).

Elias arrives at 8:10 PM.

ELIAS: Good evening!

GROUP: Good evening!

ELIAS: (Chuckling, and tapping his hands on the chair) We have been speaking of your cultural time and your natural time, your intellect and your intuition, to further offer you information to be connecting and understanding of yourselves and your connections. We will also be discussing your relationship with nature. Now I pose to you the question, “What is your connection with nature?” (Pause)

VICKI: Well, we have created it.

ELIAS: How are you connected? (Pause)

RON: Hopefully, I think we would be part of it.

ELIAS: How are you part of it? (Pause)

JIM: Everything that nature is we are, and vice versa. (Pause)

ELIAS: Think to yourselves how you view your species in relation to nature. How do you view a plant in relation to nature? How do you view an antelope or a caribou in relation to nature? (Pause) Now express to me, how does man fit into nature?

JIM: Not very well! (Laughing)

ELIAS: This is precisely the answer I was expecting! You separate yourselves automatically. You view an animal, and although you may not have the ability to express, in words, how you believe it to be connected with nature, you automatically connect it. You view a tree or a flower, and there is no separation from nature. You view an ocean, and it is natural. It is part of nature. You cannot separate out these elements from nature, but you do separate out your species, therefore creating a barrier. You do this, for you do not see your own connections. You do not view your own affectingness. You do not see your interaction with nature. Therefore, how may you apply natural elements to yourselves, if you are not a part of nature itself? How may you incorporate natural time, if you are not natural? (Pause)

I will say to you, now view man and his connection to nature, for without your species, nature would not be what it is. As all other elements contribute to nature, so also do you. We have discussed previously these elements, but you do not make the connections. We have discussed your weather, your planetary conditions; earthquakes, floods, tornadoes; which you create, which are part of nature. We have also discussed your archaeology; your artifacts, your ancient remains; which remain only through holding of your remembrance. These are the contributions that you add to nature. Through your emotions, you are influencing of your planetary conditions; your weather, your tides, your elements of natural occurrences upon your planet. Through your thought process, you hold the clarity of the focus. Your animals, your flowers, your clouds, your oceans, appear as they appear, for you are part of them. You hold the clarity. You hold the vision. What you see, what you visualize, is what is created. Therefore, you are a very intricate part of nature. You also feel the natural movement continuously, this being your natural time; which is natural to you equally as it is to your creatures.

And are we incorporating a slightly clearer picture of our balancing of intellect and intuition? (Grinning at Vicki) Still discounting!

VICKI: I don’t think I’m discounting it! (Elias starts cracking up) I am very surprised, and I don’t really understand how the affectingness works, but I’m viewing it, so I don’t discount it!

ELIAS: We will also explain that within other areas of consciousness and essence, all things may be categorized as agreements. All action that transpires between any individuals are agreements; not in what you view to be agreements, for your definition of this word is quite limited to your physical understanding. These agreements are not expressed in the manner that you think of. Each element of your existence is not discussed with each other essence, and it is not debated back and forth. (Extends each hand out as if they were two people talking to each other) “I will do this.” “Alright, this is acceptable.” “No, I feel I should do this.” “I disagree.” “Well, acceptable.” “We will compromise.” “This is an agreement.” Incorrect! No discussion is transpiring! Actions in this element are instantaneous. There is no “time element” involved. They are spontaneous.

I will also express to you that although you create your own reality, as does each individual, you do not create another individual’s reality; but you do interact, and you do influence. This is where your agreements spontaneously lie, as a general understood agreement; that if one chooses to be responding, within consciousness, to your influence or your energy, for you may not always be influencing, in the definition that you hold, but you may be influencing within energy; and if the individual is responding to this, obviously they have agreed to be responding.

These, as I have stated, are not individual agreements. It is an overall agreement, within essence and other areas of consciousness, to be allowing or not allowing, within Regional Area 1, a response. Therefore, if you are viewing an individual seeming to be responding to thoughts that you possess which are unspoken, do not discount; for this is precisely what they are responding to! (Grinning at Vicki) Thoughts are energy. Energy is always in motion. Energy is reality.

VICKI: It’s just amazing to have such a specific physical example. It’s also amazing to me that two different individuals, viewing the same example, can have two completely different perceptions of it.

ELIAS: Each individual creates their reality through their own perception. In your widening, you are beginning to incorporate a greater understanding and acceptance of reality; and of the workings, naturally, of yourself and your consciousness. Allowed its natural expression, and balanced between intellect and intuition, you may be quite specifically affecting! Now you may think on this, and incorporate this thought when I express to you that you are affecting within consciousness already! (Pause, smiling, and tapping his hands on the chair in an exaggerated way)

This is expressly for Shynla’s benefit, for she is quite appreciating of finger tapping! (Laughing, and then to Vicki) This has been a very good example of noticing, and meshing of intellect and intuition, and incorporating this information, that you may view how effortlessly you may accomplish through this more natural method. If you are not “boxing up” quite so tremendously, you will experience the natural flow, which is also effortless. (Pause, smiling) Are you wishing of questions this evening?

JIM: Yes, I have a question. Today, when I was sitting outside viewing the mountains, all of a sudden I viewed pinpoints of light swirling with energy. I was viewing energies? It was very ... I blinked and it came back and I rubbed my eyes, and it was very visual for me as I stared out into the mountains and the sky and the clouds, and it was very interesting.

ELIAS: Very reminiscent! (Grinning at Vicki)

JIM: Quite fascinating ... Pardon me?

ELIAS: Very reminiscent of another “time,” of wind and lights, incorporating visualizing energy. You may connect with Lawrence with this experience. (Grinning at both Jim and Vicki)

JIM: Okay. It was neat.

ELIAS: I will express that you are “doing very well!” (Grinning)

JIM: I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing. I’m not quite sure what that is, but I’ll just ...

ELIAS: Be remembering also, connection with each other is, at this “stage,” so to speak, very important. It is necessary, for your understanding, to be connecting with other individuals incorporated within this group. It will be very helpful for your understanding ... and theirs! (Pause, grinning) I shall express a very short intersection with you this evening, for I am preparing for a very long intersection with you very soon, to which we will be discussing of your issue of consciousness and essence. I have not forgotten!

JIM: Well, I knew that! (Laughing)

ELIAS: If you are wishing, “And now, the game!” (To Ron) Very good!

VICKI: The game!

ELIAS: Fun is good!

RON: Fun is fun! (What a bunch of geeks!)

VICKI: For Shynla, she would like to connect Rose, in directions, with “every which way.”

ELIAS: (Laughing) Express to Shynla, her connection is to essence, not to herself! Incorrect!

VICKI: She would like to connect Rose, in fruits, with a banana.

ELIAS: Every which way, except the correct way! Incorrect! Much conflict and distress, which is creating much interference in connecting! (Chuckling)

VICKI: She would like to connect Ayla, in directions, with “beside.”

ELIAS: Very close! Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk! Incorrect!

VICKI: She would like to connect Rose, in plants, with philodendron.

ELIAS: (Laughing) I will offer Shynla an extra point this evening, for being so very consistent! (Laughter)

VICKI: She would like to connect Ordin, in musical instruments, with a drum.

ELIAS: Ah! One point! I should be rescinding the extra point! (Pause) I shall let this stand.

VICKI: She would like to connect Ayla, in birds, with a hummingbird.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Okay, I have some game questions for Samuel!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Continue!

VICKI: He would like to connect Rose, in countries, with Italy.

ELIAS: Close! Incorrect.

VICKI: He would like to connect Rose, in spices, with cayenne and cinnamon.

ELIAS: Incorrect. Express to Samuel that his first question, geographically, is within the correct direction; and he may be focusing a little more, and his perception, within his impression, may “shift!”

VICKI: For Michael, he would like to connect Twylah, in directions, with “back.”

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: He would like to connect Twylah, in occupations, with physician.

ELIAS: Incorrect.

VICKI: He would like to connect Twylah, in oceans and seas, with the Indian ocean.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) One point.

VICKI: He would like to connect Rose, in emotions, with sorrow.

ELIAS: Hua fuas! (Laughter)

VICKI: For myself, I would like to connect Twylah, in fruits, with a banana.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: And I would like to connect Twylah, in occupations, with a business owner.

ELIAS: (Accessing) Acceptable. One point.

VICKI: And to connect Twylah, in songs, with the Nutcracker Suite.

ELIAS: (To Jim) Resonate! One point.

VICKI: I would like to connect Twylah, in roots, with ginger.

ELIAS: One point. (Vicki hands Ron the tablet with his questions)

RON: I need my glasses.

ELIAS: Ah, yes! I would like to connect Amandy ... with glasses!

RON: One point! (Laughter) I would like to connect Ordin, in the birds category, with a sandpiper.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: I would like to connect Tomkin, in birds, with an ostrich.

ELIAS: (Accessing) Acceptable. (Looking at Ron)

RON: The emu.

ELIAS: One point!

RON: I would like to connect Twylah, in seeds, with a castor bean.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: And I would also like to connect Twylah, in places, with ... Mount Saint Elias!

ELIAS: (Laughing) I have been discovered! Drat! One point! (Pause)

JIM: Well, I’d like to connect, in the physically focused essences category, and gods, the god of Odin, and I’d like to connect Michael and Lawrence and Yarr and Ron.

ELIAS: Your incorporation of Michael and Lawrence is quite correct; Ron being not quite so “devious!” (Laughing) We will offer one point, eliminating of one.

JIM: Then also, in connecting essences and direction, with Michael and Yarr in connecting a circle.

ELIAS: I will not offer a point for this, although you may both make many connections with this impression; for presently, this may be your joint motion, around and around and around and around! (Laughing) But within essence, and within these two individuals connecting within this category, I would say incorrect.

JIM: I can see why. Okay, that’s all. (Pause)

VICKI: I do have a few questions for Shynla.

RON: Can I ask one more question for Michael? (To Vicki) You only asked three here.

ELIAS: Very good, Ron!

RON: He would like to connect Tomkin, in seeds, with mustard.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Thanks. I would’ve been in trouble!

RON: I know! (Laughter)

VICKI: Okay. Her question is, do we create the reality of animals?

ELIAS: In a manner of your speaking, partially, yes; partially, no. Animals incorporate their own consciousness, and they also create their own reality, just as does a plant. It is not dependent upon essence to be creating of reality, for all consciousness creates reality. Therefore, an animal creates its reality; although some animals are quite affected by your consciousness, and influenced by your consciousness. Therefore, in a sense, you help to create the reality of some animals. In another sense, you are influencing of creating the reality of all animals; for we have discussed, this evening, that you are a part of nature, a very intricate part, which is quite affecting of all creatures. Therefore, in this respect yes, you create the reality of the creature; although they create their experiences, although you influence many of their experiences also.

You are more directly affecting of your domesticated animals, that your are directly involved with and connected to; for your consciousness works in cooperation with these animals, and you are more directly affecting of their reality. As I have expressed, you may project, to an animal that you are connected with, elements of your consciousness for the animal to be experiencing; or the animal may pick up, so to speak, elements of your consciousness and incorporate them into their experience. This is not accomplished on a “thinking level,” so to speak. The animal does not make a decision and say to itself, “I believe I shall be depressed today, therefore my human connection may be happy”; although many times, an animal will assume elements of consciousness that you are projecting, and they will express them, whereas you may not; as in our case of your spouse, (looking at Jim) who also connected with your creature of your dog, which was experiencing physical expressions. (Pause) Shynla incorporates this with her own animal also.

VICKI: So when I notice her dog having moods, quite often that is a connection with Shynla?

ELIAS: Very much so. You will also notice physical expressions. This individual, choosing not to be expressing of discomfort within physical focus, this being not a part of her reality, not wishing to experience uncomfortableness, which her creature has connected with and experiences for her; also allowing expressions of belief systems, which you also may project. You may not be wishing to be incorporating your medical profession personally, continuously; therefore your pet will require much attention. Be remembering also, these examples are expressions of what you would term extreme areas, areas that are within consciousness of the individuals involved, with fears within belief systems, elements that may not be quite so easily expressed themselves. Therefore, they may connect with their creatures.

VICKI: So, these are ... what did you just say? Instances involving extremes?

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: So my experience with my own animals, that they require very little medical attention, as do I also require very little medical attention, that would be ...

ELIAS: A mirroring; as does Ron also require very little, which creates an “atmosphere” around these creatures. The individual may not require much medical attention personally, but within a “layer of consciousness” incorporates a belief system which leans heavily in this area; therefore it is an expression of energy and consciousness, which is “picked up on.”

VICKI: Would this be why Michael wanted me to clean his dog’s ears, why he noticed things Elizabeth did not notice?

ELIAS: (Laughing) I have expressed there is great connection between Michael and Shynla; which, within your “time element,” will be becoming more obvious!

VICKI: And Michael’s noticing of his own dog being agitated today; what would that be?

ELIAS: This also being connected with Shynla; and also you may express to Michael to be noticing of his “time element” of when this creature began becoming agitated, for he will be noticing that within his morning hours, he was connecting with his creature quite normally, and when his telephone apparatus was engaged with Shynla, the turmoil began! There are more connections for you to be making. This shall serve as motivation for the intrigue! (Laughing, and then to Ron) And may I be inquiring, how is your vision recently?

RON: About the same.

ELIAS: Needing of these spectacles! No unusualness in seeing things lately? (Laughing) Initiator! Only another coincidence, that our initiator representative is initiating connecting focuses, to which others are connecting with! Merely coincidence! (Pause, grinning at Ron) Is not your eyes your recent project?

RON: Okay, I get it! (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: He is not even connecting with himself!

RON: I’m a little out of focus tonight!

ELIAS: Out of focus ... visually! Ha ha! (Laughter, and a pause)

VICKI: Well, I have one more question for Shynla. She wants to know about physical focus connections between herself and Dennis.

ELIAS: I shall offer, temporarily, one connection which she shall reconnect with now, within our “present now.” Express to Shynla that this individual was also incorporated, within the developmental focus to which she seeks the chateau, as a very ... “best friend.” An interesting developmental focus; quite pivotal. (Pause) Is she wishing of more questions, or are you?

JIM: I have a question on animals. Do we attract animals to us? As we open ourselves to accepting of animals, do they seem to magnate to us?

ELIAS: Absolutely.

JIM: That’s why we have so many!

ELIAS: You “draw to” yourselves.

JIM: So in animals wishing to move on, or animals wishing to die, within our presence, would we attract that animal as well, to send energy, positive energy, so to speak, on its way?

ELIAS: If the animal is feeling a very strong connection with an individual, it will seek this individual out for helpfulness within its moving. This is not a helpfulness of movement in the respect that you may think, for the creature requires no helpfulness to be discontinuing an individual focus, or remanifesting; but within a cooperation of an emotional expression, and wishing a combining of energy, the creature may choose to be aligned in this manner.

JIM: So with animals that die under our care, and we feel we are giving them everything they need, and the animal just dies, it’s a very hard thing to accept, but this is their choice?

ELIAS: Absolutely; just as within the expression of any individual. You may, within your technology, express all means available to be helpful and to be assisting of an individual, and it may be to no avail, for they are wishing to be ending physical focus, so to speak; for there is no ending.

JIM: Okay. That helps. It doesn’t make it easier, but it helps.

ELIAS: Shift your perception, in understanding that each creature, each element of nature, each expression, creates its own reality. In this, it also creates its physical beginning and ending. It is its choice. One rose may choose to bloom four days longer than another.

VICKI: I have a question about Rose.

ELIAS: Is everywhere! (Grinning)

VICKI: (Laughing) Regarding the connection in the planets category, with Jupiter also being connected with Ayla, is this because of the reforming element of that essence family, or what?

ELIAS: There are two different reasons that this planet is incorporated with each of these essences. Another planet will be aligned with Rose also, as you have already “assumed.” (Grinning)

The reason for the incorporation of Jupiter with Rose is that it has been chosen by this essence as representative of size; the largest; therefore symbolic of incorporating the whole.

The reasoning for the alignment with your yellow essence family, or your category, is for its connection with this planet itself and its manifestations, as our other planet and its manifestations; this being the same reasoning. Do not be forgetful that although within your physical perception, as this species within this dimension and this time element, you view nothing upon your other planets of your, so to speak, your “solar system,” within other physical focuses and dimensions, they are inhabited just the same, within their own time elements.

VICKI: Okay. I have one more question. The planet Venus, when I view it, when I’m traveling down my road going a very short distance, why does this planet move around so much in the sky? I can line it up with another star, and it doesn’t stay in the same relation to that star.

ELIAS: You are viewing a planet, not a star!

VICKI: Well, I understand that!

ELIAS: You are also viewing what you may visually “see” as an element within your heavens; its actual physical reflection and rotation. What you view with your stars is not the same. Therefore, they appear to you to be stationary, changing position only as your planet changes position; although this is directly related to your own belief systems of being the center of the universe! You would be surprised if you were physically viewing your other planets of your solar system, how they would leap and jump about! This also is interesting, for this moves you slightly, very slightly, away from your belief systems as being the center of the entire physically known universe; for there is another that moves also, that you may witness. (Pause) I will be disconnecting from you this evening, and allowing your own connecting. I will be speaking with you very soon. Au revoir.

Elias departs at 9:19 PM.


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