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Sunday, February 25, 2001

<  Session 788 (Private)  >

“The Notorious Focus Session”

“World War II Associations”


Participants: Mary (Michael), Ben (Albert), Frank (Christian), and Mike (Mikah).

(Bobbi’s note: This session video begins with approximately 12 minutes of jokes, laughing and hilarity which set the tone for the rest of the session. There was some question as to whether Elias would come through with Mary laughing so hard at the guys’ joking. This is a very playful session.)

Elias arrives at 12:10 PM. (Arrival time is 24 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning, my friends!

FRANK: We see you made it! A little difficult coming in today, wasn’t it? (The guys crack up.)

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And we are quite in a playful mood this morning, are we not? (Elias is grinning and looks quite amused by this group.)

FRANK: That we are!

ELIAS: And how shall we proceed?

FRANK: In a playful way! I think we want to investigate some of our more notorious focuses. Can you tell us first off, have all three of us been in a focus together?

BEN: More than one!

FRANK: That we can speak of?

ELIAS: Yes! (Laughter)

FRANK: Can you enlighten us on the time period and the circumstance?

ELIAS: No! (More laughter)

FRANK: Okay! Cut, Vicki, cut! We’re starting again!

ELIAS: Perhaps you shall offer to myself your impression.

FRANK: Well, there’s a couple of focuses, time periods, that I was thinking of – maybe in the Napoleonic era?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Oh, we’re there! All three of us?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Which Napoleon?

FRANK: Oh, here we go! (Laughing)

BEN: I thought we weren’t going to let him say anything! (Elias chuckles)

FRANK: That’s okay. He’s involved. (Pause)

ELIAS: First and third.

MIKE: Really! Well, thank you. That’s kind of covering everything then.

FRANK: Were we close to Napoleon himself, in the military or near him? (Pause)

ELIAS: In direct association with that individual, no; in the role of military: yes, two (looking at Mike and Frank); no, one (looking at Ben). (Chuckling)

BEN: I was a merchant at the time, that’s right.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

BEN: But still involved in the rebel revolution?

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: And my relationship with Elias Bodreaux at the time, was that one of conflict? I’m imagining that it wasn’t.

ELIAS: Within that particular focus, much to your dismay presently, no, we do not engage conflict and adversarial roles. (Chuckling)

BEN: I thought that was a break for us! (Pause)

ELIAS: You may continue with your impressions.

FRANK: Were we involved with Elias Bodreaux in that focus?

ELIAS: Yes. In actuality, Christian, you engaged two focuses which are overlapping in what you term to be time framework, for you participate in one focus which concentrates the main expression of years, so to speak, within 18th century, which overlaps to another focus which concentrates its years within the 19th century. In the first focus, you create a role in association with Elias which is not adversarial and is not engaging in a military capacity. In the second role, you do engage in military action.

FRANK: So I was on both sides?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: I was hedging my bets, right? (Laughter, and Elias chuckles) That’s notorious! That’s good – I like that.

BEN: You must have some impressions of being a bad guy at some point in time. (Elias laughs)

FRANK: I don’t know which focus I was tuning in on, or if I was at all ... all right, well, I’ll just say it, was there anything in what we would term the Nazi era, where I had interaction in like Germany?

ELIAS: And what is your impression? (Pause)

FRANK: I’m not really sure. I know I had a lot of feelings about it many years ago when I was actually looking into it, you know, just that emotional connection. Nowadays, I don’t know if I’m afraid to let it in, or I don’t want to acknowledge it, or else I was a victim of the other side of it or what I would term as a victim, or if I was involved in it at all.

ELIAS: Very well. I may offer you a clue. You do participate in that time framework. You do hold a focus which engages activity within what you term to be the Nazi party, and you may allow yourself to investigate and open to your impressions that you are, in actuality, one of the individuals that participate in the great trials.

FRANK: Holy cow! (Laughs)

BEN: That would make you famous AND notorious!

FRANK: (Ironically) Well, there’s my wish come true!

MIKE: Hitler!

ELIAS: This individual was not a participant in those trials. (Chuckling, and the group laughs)

FRANK: That’s the college boy there! (More laughter) Well, that’s interesting.

ELIAS: Therefore, in your investigation, you may allow yourself to be exploring and examining these individuals, and allow yourself an openness to which of these individuals is a focus of your essence.

FRANK: That’s kind of a lot, isn’t it? (Laughs) Okay, I’m done now! (Much laughter) I don’t need to know any more!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Is this sufficient in “bad”?

FRANK: That’s probably it, yeah.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And Albert?

BEN: Yes? Oh, I get to be a Nazi, too? (More laughter)

ELIAS: What is your impression?

BEN: I think that if I was a Nazi it wouldn’t bother me nearly as much as it does Frank. (Elias laughs)

FRANK: It’s because I’m soft. I care! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I may express to you, no, in actuality you did not participate in that capacity, and I may offer YOU the clue...

BEN: Yes?

ELIAS: ...once again, this particular focus is one in which you interact with Michael in the capacity of brother.

BEN: Oh! Is Michael my younger sister at the time?

ELIAS: Older. (Pause)

BEN: So were we German but not Nazis?

ELIAS: In actuality, no. This particular focus is of French association.

BEN: But living in Germany?

ELIAS: No.

BEN: How did we get on this from Nazis then?

FRANK: In that time framework, they invaded France.

BEN: Oh!

ELIAS: This is within the time framework, and this particular interaction of this great war is affecting tremendously of both of you within that focus and is ultimately responsible for your choice of disengagement each, in association with these German individuals.

FRANK: Did I have anything to do with his disengagement? (Laughter; Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Not directly.

FRANK: Indirectly, right! (Elias chuckles)

BEN: How about names for me and Michael?

ELIAS: Ah! And shall you not investigate this with Michael?

BEN: Okay.

FRANK: If I have to get it, you have to get it! (Pause, and to Mike) Jump in.

BEN: Oh, come on, be a Nazi!

MIKE: I KNOW I’m not a Nazi! (Elias laughs with the group)

BEN: (Humorously) What’s wrong with Nazis?

MIKE: Was I one of the Jews who were offed?

FRANK: Disengaged.

MIKE: Disengaged?

FRANK: I don’t like the term “offed.” (Laughs)

ELIAS: Interesting terminology! (Much laughter)

MIKE: I try to be creative with my terms.

ELIAS: Ah! I shall be recalling of this terminology, “offed.” (Mike laughs)

FRANK: That’s from the hip-hop generation. (Elias stares at Frank with a puzzled expression.)

ELIAS: Very well!

MIKE: I’m not going to explain what hip-hop is!

FRANK: He knows what hip-hop is.

ELIAS: Not! (Laughter, and he looks at each of them, and a slight pause.) Ah! Interesting education concerning your present engagement of slang within your language and cultural expressions! Ha ha ha ha!

As to your question, Mikah, yes, you do participate as an individual of Jewish religious persuasion and within the cultural expression of Poland. (Pause)

FRANK: Question: how am I allowing that focus to affect me now, if at all?

ELIAS: As I have stated, Christian, all focuses are exchanging with each other.

FRANK: But there’s an interpretation. Is there like an interpretation that I may be using positively or negatively in THIS focus? That’s not accepting?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, this particular time framework and the involvement and participations of individuals that manifest within that mass event is holding, in some aspects, close associations with this present focus and time framework, for most of the individuals that are manifest now in this time framework have also created focuses in some capacity in involvement with that mass event in that time framework.

Therefore in a manner of speaking, these also are overlapping focuses, and I may express to you that generally speaking with these overlapping types of focuses, there are strong associations with one or the other in recognition of the other focus, not necessarily expressed by what you view as the future of the two recalling associations or events of past. At times those in the previous focus within your linear time framework may be allowing themselves recognitions or associations of future events and experiences. As they are linearly overlapping, the veil which separates the awareness of each focus becomes thinner.

Individuals may incorporate more strongly held dream imagery of either focus. They may experience visions. They may incorporate some automatic associations that, in a manner of speaking, cross over each other for they are almost superimposed upon each other at times – not continuously, but it is what you would term to be not unusual that individuals in this type of overlapping focuses may allow themselves any number of type of visions or associations with the other focus.

Therefore, in this focus you allow yourselves imagery and associations with the previous; but in the previous, those focuses also offer themselves what you may term to be visions or associations of unexplored and unfamiliar aspects of reality that you create in THIS reality that are unknown within their time framework. There is much within your focus now that even within the short time framework of difference, in a manner of speaking, of the individuals within that focus that is unrecognizable in physical terms to them. In this, you, in a manner of speaking, incorporate the benefit of what you associate as history. Therefore, it is not unfamiliar to you, whereas the associations that they may incorporate are quite unfamiliar within their reality.

But in this, as to the affectingness of that focus upon or within THIS focus, as to what you allow to be affecting, are associations that you draw to yourself in relation to experiences that are occurring in that focus, that you translate into THIS focus in association with issues that you have created in this focus. Therefore, they become a reinforcement to the issues that you have created in THIS focus.

This once again is an expression of the abstractness of objective imagery, for you may participate in what you term to be offensive actions and experiences in that focus, and in the design of the issues that you have presented to yourself in THIS focus, you may translate that energy into an offensive expression to yourself rather than outward in relation to other individuals. Therefore, the abstract element may be expressed in the action of what you physically term or associate as the victimization of other individuals in one focus and the victimization of yourself in the other focus. The action is the same; the imagery is different.

FRANK: The action is the same but the imagery is different.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Does it limit me in this focus, or is it just a reflection of my working on the issues? In other words, am I limiting myself now through my association with the other focus?

ELIAS: If you choose, it holds the potential to be limiting of you within this focus, but only in relation to your choice. It is not automatically limiting to you, for this is an expression of denial of your own choices. The other focus does not direct your focus. Therefore, it is a matter of your choice to be allowing certain expressions of energy and your incorporation of that energy in relation to what you are creating within this focus.

FRANK: Right, understood.

ELIAS: But recognize that the automatic action, within your physical dimension and what you create, is to magnate to the familiar and to draw to yourself energy of similarity. Therefore, you shall in automatic movement gravitate energy to yourself that is similar to what you are creating in the moment to be reinforcing of what you are creating.

But this is an automatic expression; it is familiar. It is NOT an absolute, and you are not locked to that action. This is the importance of recognizing automatic expressions, for in automatic responses you limit your choices; and as you view that you are responding in automatic expressions, you also allow yourself an opening to choice in which you may alter what you are creating within the moment, for you open the door, so to speak, of choice.

FRANK: So I’ve begun to do that – just very recently, I think – becoming aware of that?

ELIAS: Yes. Let me also express to you, in this time framework, as you ARE all participating in this wave in consciousness addressing to duplicity, and you are widening your awareness and inserting this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, the movement of acceptance is expanded beyond your viewing and engagement of merely this one focus.

In this action, you begin to present yourselves with expressions of other focuses that you hold strong belief systems concerning and that may be strongly associated with your expressions of duplicity. This allows you the opportunity, in becoming familiar with your beliefs and with yourselves, to be expressing a fuller movement into acceptance of yourselves in ALL of your expressions and in all of your manifestations.

This also is significant, for as I have stated previously, as you allow yourselves to be accepting of yourselves the automatic by-product of that action is that you shall be accepting of other individuals, therefore eliminating the judgments that you hold concerning the actions and the choices of other individuals within other focuses in other time frameworks, not merely your own time framework presently.

FRANK: Okay. You want to get us out of this time framework real quick? (Elias laughs, and a slight pause)

BEN: Okay, I’ll ask for a validation of the impression that I had about my focus that was an intimate of Loie Fuller’s. My impression was that I was either Roger Marx or the son, Claude Roger-Marx. (Pause)

ELIAS: The first.

BEN: Vicki’s impression was that Loie Fuller was a focus of Shynla’s essence.

ELIAS: You are correct.

BEN: Good one, Vic!

FRANK: Way to go, Lawrence! (Pause)

MIKE: Where’s the sixth chapter focus? We seem to be getting different answers from different people. Someone had it in Scotland, someone had it in Greece, and someone told me Germany.

ELIAS: Express to myself, first of all, what is your impression?

MIKE: Both Greece and Germany sounded good. (Elias smiles) When someone told me Germany that sort of sounded right, but I don’t know, maybe Greece, or maybe neither ... maybe Scotland. Or maybe... (Laughs, and Elias grins)

FRANK: A very political answer!

ELIAS: And shall I express to you, Mikah, these are guesses. These are not impressions! (Group laughter)

MIKE: Oh no! (Laughing)

ELIAS: My question was directed to your impressions, of which you have not allowed yourself...

MIKE: Germany.

ELIAS: Incorrect. (Laughter from the group) This is a guess. (Chuckling) I may express to you to be practicing in listening to impressions, and recognizing the difference between guessing and impressions.

Now; I may express once again, it is not Greece either.

MIKE: Scotland?

ELIAS: You are correct.

MIKE: Oh, see! (General laughter)

FRANK: He’s a politician!

ELIAS: (Humorously) Very good impression!

MIKE: (Laughing) Thank you. I try! (Elias laughs)

BEN: I can ask about some impressions that I’ve gotten among relationships with people that I know. What’s the relationship between David and Edward? (Pause)

ELIAS: In actuality, these individuals have held many associations within other focuses, and I may also express to you that these two essences have engaged mergences in many expressions, and in that action, what YOU are recognizing...

BEN: Yes?

ELIAS: ...is an expression in which these two essences in mergence exchange certain qualities and share qualities that they choose to be expressing in physical manifestations.

This is not the same action as what we have spoken of previously, of observing essences participating in a particular focus. These two essences hold similar tone. These two essences create an action of mergence within consciousness, and in choosing to be expressing manifestations within physical dimensions, at times exchange qualities such as certain personality types, certain preferences, certain expressions of fascinations within physical focus, certain talents, so to speak, which may be expressed in physical manifestations, and therefore they create similar types of manifestations many times.

BEN: Okay, thank you. Is there a significance between the essences of Doro and Dora? (Slight pause)

ELIAS: No.

MIKE: I have a question about that. My focus in New Zealand, Joseph, does he know Ben’s friend in this focus?

ELIAS: Presently, no – objectively.

BEN: Let’s go back to this whole observing essence and primary essence idea. So I know there’s two essences involved in the focus of Bosie. (1) Are there more? (Pause)

ELIAS: One temporary, which does not observe throughout the entirety of the focus.

BEN: And that essence name would be...? (Elias grins and stares at Ben with raised eyebrows.) ...for me to figure out. (Laughter)

Are there other essences participating within the focus of Ben besides Albert?

ELIAS: In this present time framework, no.

BEN: And with Christian and Frank? (Pause)

ELIAS: In this present time framework, no. Although I may express to you within what you term to be in linear time early ages of this present manifestation, yes; one.

BEN: And I’ll ask the same question for Michael, THIS Michael. (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Yes, what?

ELIAS: Participation of two observing essences.

BEN: So Mikah is primary, and there are two observing?

ELIAS: Correct.

MIKE: Who? (Much laughter, as Elias gives Mike the same look that Ben got.) Come on, you guys brought this up! At least you could have told me!

BEN: You have an hour to discuss that!

ELIAS: And shall you not attempt at investigation, Mikah?

MIKE: Well, can you give me half? Can you give me one, so at least I have some idea?

ELIAS: And you may investigate. (Smiling)

MIKE: Are these people, are these essences that I know?

ELIAS: No.

MIKE: (Laughing) So what’s the point of me investigating? (Group laughter)

ELIAS: This is your choice! (Grinning) It matters not! I may express to you, as I have previously, these essences are not affecting of you. They are not affecting of your identification, your choices, your manifestation. This is a manifestation of Mikah. You ARE the essence of Mikah.

In this particular focus of Michael, there are two other essences within consciousness that OBSERVE your choices of experiences and your movement. They are not participating in your choices. They are not affecting of your identity or the movement of your essence. They are merely participating in the capacity of observation to be allowing themselves the experience that YOU choose, and in that experience they may be choosing a myriad of actions to be engaging in relation to these experiences, in a manner of speaking.

I may express to you, at times an observing essence may be choosing to create another focus in similar expression if it is creating a preference in relation to the experiences that YOU explore, although this is not a rule. It is an action that is created within essences, but it is also the choice of each individual essence.

Therefore, I may express to you that another individual within a future focus or a past focus, offering itself information – if choosing – concerning another focus that it participates within may be offering itself information that YOU are a focus of its essence, and it may not necessarily be the primary essence which is directing. Therefore, shall you create fame within this focus, another individual may choose to be you, so to speak! Ha ha ha ha ha!

MIKE: Lucky them!

FRANK: They’d better like food!

MIKE: Oh god! (Elias laughs)

Okay, was I one of these observing essences, or do I know or share focuses with the essence that was Hitler?

FRANK: You could get your own website!

ELIAS: You are not an observing focus.

BEN: You’re primary! (Laughter, and a pause while Elias accesses)

FRANK: It’s close!

ELIAS: No. You hold objective awareness in that time framework of that individual and of individuals closely associated with that individual in what you term to be the role of victim to the dictates of that individual. But I may express to you, no, you do not participate as an observing essence in that focus.

MIKE: Okay. Can I also ask, how many focuses do I share with Ben?

ELIAS: What is your impression? (Mike laughs) Practice, Mikah!

BEN: Yeah, go ahead, give it a shot!

MIKE: Fourteen.

ELIAS: Very good! (Much laughter)

FRANK: I know I speak for the universe when I say this is Mikah’s choice! (Laughter, and Elias grins) Very good. I applaud you.

MIKE: How about seven with Frank?

ELIAS: Eight.

FRANK: Very close, very good! That’s one too many! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! THIS being the eighth which is the “too many”! (Loud laughter) HA HA!

BEN: Speaking of that, in my investigation along the Oscar Wilde focus, it led me to Loie Fuller, and of course now you are saying this is a focus of Shynla. Certain names, characters popped out to me, and I’m presuming that these are people that I could perhaps know now. Would you mind if I asked for the essence names of some of these people? One of them would be Fred Holland Day.

ELIAS: And your association?

BEN: It only went as far as thinking that it was probably somebody within this forum, and that’s why this person just jumped out at me.

ELIAS: You are correct. Now I shall offer to you first that you allow yourself impressions.

BEN: Well, I know from within this list that Paul H. has to be on this list somewhere. (Elias nods) But I don’t necessarily associate him with Day. I associate him more with Gide. (Pause)

ELIAS: No.

BEN: Is Ernest Dowson part of the forum?

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: Is he an essence of David or Edward’s – I mean a focus of David or Edward’s, or I guess, Mylo’s or Colleen’s? (Pause)

ELIAS: No, (smiling) but in this focus closely associated with Colleen.

BEN: Tyne? (Elias nods) Oh, thank you!

FRANK: Connection! (Elias chuckles)

BEN: Two can play this game, my friend! (Elias laughs) Robert Hichens? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: Among the forum? (Elias nods) Then this is not ... I’m guessing now, I’m not going to go into guessing. I know Gide has got to be within the forum, too.

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: I just don’t know who it is. It’s just not Paul.

ELIAS: Recognize that there are many individuals that participate within this forum. (Smiling)

BEN: Oh yes, I am quite aware. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: It is not limited to a small group.

BEN: So it’s probably someone I have not met yet.

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: You want to jump in here, Frank? You got some final comments?

(Elias laughs)

FRANK: I think you’ve done very well, Albert! (Laughing)

BEN: I’ll keep going unless you cut in here, but I’m hogging the place!

FRANK: I just have a quick question concerning Elias Bodreaux. The focus name that you gave me for my soul mate in New Orleans was Lillian Bodreaux or Bojeaux. Is there an association there in namesake or in family relation or direct relation like sister, brother or something?

ELIAS: In association with that individual of Elias Bodreaux, no.

FRANK: None at all?

ELIAS: No.

FRANK: Her last name was Bojeaux?

ELIAS: Bodreaux.

FRANK: Bodreaux also, okay. So I’ve been spelling it wrong then!

ELIAS: I may express to you, in your physical terms, in actuality this is quite commonly expressed in physical naming.

BEN: So they’re not related?

ELIAS: No.

MIKE: I have another question: Carmen Miranda. Is that a focus of Candace?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Ah, and I am recognizing of your association with Candace within this present focus! No.

MIKE: No, okay. (Elias chuckles)

FRANK: That’s another one! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Although Candace does hold other focuses which express a flair for the flamboyant, so to speak. (Smiling broadly)

MIKE: I can see that. (Elias laughs)

FRANK: What about any association around the time of Caesar Augustus? I’m not good with dates, but I have a feeling that there’s...

BEN: That you’re somewhere around there?

FRANK: Yes. I know I like that time.

ELIAS: That you are associated with this time framework in manifestation? Yes, you are correct.

FRANK: Not in the court of Caesar Augustus...

ELIAS: No.

FRANK: ...but as a citizen or something?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: But just affiliated with that time period, okay. Anything else? How about Attila? (Laughing) How about around that...

ELIAS: Now express to me your impression. I am aware of your guess!

FRANK: It seems like a fun time, that’s all I can say! (Laughing)

MIKE: Yeah, if you were Attila!

ELIAS: I may express to you, you do hold association with this individual.

FRANK: So it wasn’t a guess! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Your guess was that YOU are this individual!

FRANK: No, I didn’t think I was Attila! (Much laughter, and Elias laughs) I wish!

ELIAS: HA HA! (Humorously) I may express to your delight, Christian, that you may investigate and be quite satisfied that this particular focus expresses what you term to be equal brutality as the association of Attila himself!

FRANK: Ah, very good! (Everyone laughs)

ELIAS: He quite delights in burning, specifically.

MIKE: Oh, was that him, too? (Elias cracks up, and everyone laughs)

FRANK: Was it military, military like adjacent to Attila, or just different culture or...?

ELIAS: Within that culture.

FRANK: Within that culture, really?

ELIAS: Yes. No, you are not one of the warring factions. You are a participant in that clan.

MIKE: Is that one of the focuses that he and I share? Me and Frank? (Pause)

ELIAS: In actuality, yes.

MIKE: Was I one of the clan?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! (Humorously) Such excitement this day in identification of evil! (Laughter, and Elias continues to laugh) In your terms, delight yourself, Mikah – yes, you are a member of the clan!

FRANK: You were in with the in-crowd! (Elias laughs, and group laughter) You weren’t any goody two-shoes!

We have about five minutes left. You want to hit anything?

BEN: Oh, I got more suspects...

FRANK: Goebbels – I just want to say Goebbels. (Elias smiles)

BEN: Was he in the trials?

ELIAS: No.

FRANK: I didn’t know if he was in the trials. That’s just a name I know.

ELIAS: Continue with your impressions and your investigations.

FRANK: There’s the focus, the one whose burial is always in question in like the last ten years here, of the identification of his bones or his burial site. I don’t have the name.

BEN: Were you wondering if that’s you?

FRANK: Yes.

ELIAS: No.

FRANK: No, okay. I have to investigate more.

BEN: When I started reading the Bosie book – which was very entertaining, I didn’t want to put it down (laughter) – I was wondering if one of the schoolmates, I can’t remember now if it was at Winchester or at Oxford, was this the essence of Dora that I was picking up an impression of?

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: Thank you.

MIKE: I have two more questions.

BEN: Only two?

MIKE: Early 20th century, did I have a focus maybe in Sicily as part of the early Mafia?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Hey, paesano! (Laughter)

MIKE: There’s another question, but I forgot. Oh yeah! You told me I was a schoolmate of yours in the Oscar Wilde focus. Was that when I was at Oxford with you?

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: And is his focus in that photograph of Oscar and his schoolmates?

ELIAS: No.

MIKE: Okay. You guys have anything else?

FRANK: I think that’s it.

MIKE: Well, I have one more.

BEN: You remembered, go ahead.

MIKE: Michelangelo – my cardinal focus, did he know Michelangelo?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

MIKE: Did he have a sculpture or a fresco done of himself, done by Michelangelo?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: A sculpture?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK & MIKE: Does it still exist?

ELIAS: Uncompleted.

MIKE: Of course!

FRANK: Doesn’t have the head! (General laughter, and Elias laughs)

MIKE: So does it still exist, the sculpture?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Yes. Does my focus’s name...

BEN: Is the sculpture in Florence now? (Pause)

ELIAS: Rome.

MIKE: Is my focus’s name either Joseph or an Italian derivation of Joseph?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Is it Joseph, or is it an Italian version?

ELIAS: Variation.

MIKE: Like Giuseppe?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Giuseppe, very good. Thank you.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of your investigation. This IS an offering of your impressions. (Chuckling, and Mike laughs)

MIKE: Is Michelangelo ... the individual who is primary essence of that focus, is he an individual in this forum? Or is it someone that I know in this focus now?

ELIAS: No. (Pause) Very well!

FRANK: I think that’s it. We thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

FRANK: We thank you for revealing our notorious selves!

BEN: I wasn’t very notorious! (Elias laughs)

FRANK: (Laughing) Speak for yourself!

ELIAS: Ah, but you may continue your investigations! (Grinning)

BEN: I’m going to continue so I can be just as much of a badass as Frank is! (Laughter, and Elias laughs)

FRANK: I burned him! (Much laughter)

ELIAS: Very well! I encourage you to be incorporating FUN in your evil focuses! Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: I’m glad I wore my black shirt today!

ELIAS: (Humorously) Which is reflecting of your black heart! Ha ha ha ha! (Laughter)

FRANK: That is so!

ELIAS: You are presenting yourself with much playfulness in this action, are you not?

FRANK: Yes, I am! (Elias laughs)

BEN: Impressions are easier when you don’t take it so seriously.

ELIAS: Ha ha! Quite! You are correct! Very well, my friends. I express tremendous affection for you all – yourself also, Albert!

BEN: Oh, you’re too kind! (Elias laughs) You’re not so bad yourself.

ELIAS: Ah! I express much compliment in this! (Laughter)

FRANK: Such acceptance! (Laughter)

ELIAS: (Grinning, and conspiratorially to Frank and Mike) I shall win him over yet!

FRANK: Again?

ELIAS: In the wilds of the Wilde! (Much laughter)

Very well. To you each this day, in tremendous affection and anticipation of our continued interaction, and I offer you my own expression of playful energy. I express to you, au revoir.

ALL: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:12 PM.


Endnotes:

(1) “Bosie” refers to Lord Alfred Douglas, who was associated with Oscar Wilde.


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