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Friday, January 17, 2003

<  Session 1250 (Private)  >

ďExploring Other AspectsĒ


Participants: Mary (Michael) and Debi (Oona).

Elias arrives at 2:13 PM. (Arrival time is 27 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

DEBI: Good afternoon, Elias! Whatís new? (Both laugh)

ELIAS: Many exciting adventures!

DEBI: Oh, I can just imagine! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: And yourself?

DEBI: Many exciting adventures!

ELIAS: Very well!

DEBI: Of course, huh? (Both laugh) So, you ready to answer some questions?

ELIAS: Quite!

DEBI: I thought Iíd do like I have been and start with some focus impressions and kind of work through that.

I would like to know if Alexandra Romanov is a focus of my essence? (Pause)

ELIAS: Observing essence.

DEBI: Oh, really. Then in that case, Margot/Giselle would like to know if Alexandra is a focus of hers? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: In that same group of people, Anna Vyrubova Ė is that a focus of Milde? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: And the last one in that group, Queen Victoria, Alexandraís grandmother, is that a focus of our Lawrence? (Pause)

ELIAS: Observing essence.

DEBI: We talked a little bit last time about a future focus of mine named Jerome, and also Ashrah has a focus named Clayton. What weíre wondering is are they brothers or even possibly twins?

ELIAS: Brothers.

DEBI: Is Jerome in The City chapter? Does he live in The City?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: And do they interact with Rutherís focus, Jasper?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Were Jerome and Clayton... I had a dream about a couple of clowns driving a dump trunk in front of me and they dumped a dump truck full of toys on the hood of my car. It was hysterical, and I thought it was Jerome and Clayton. (Elias nods) It was, huh? (Laughs)

ELIAS: Imagery...

DEBI: ĎCause theyíre so fun!

ELIAS: Imagery associated with the personalities.

DEBI: Right! It was just these guys and then it was these clowns and then it was them. And thatís what I feel Ė I feel that energy. Theyíre interactive with us all the time, huh? It feels sort of one-sided in a way, as if they kind of know more than we do Ė and that may be in this particular moment right now...

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: ...but I have no fear it will not always be that way. (Elias chuckles) But theyíre really gentle and fun, and I really enjoy those guys! Iím happy to know theyíre brothers.

Okay, letís move on to the Donner Party! We also discussed this group last time in that Sandel and I have focuses in this group. I have an impression that my focus is Lavinia Jackson Murphy?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Then I have three questions all related to the Donner girls. Is Frances Donner a focus of Sandel? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Is Georgia Donner a focus of Ashrah? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: And then is Eliza Donner a focus of Nanaiis?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Woo hoo! (Both laugh) Now hereís a really fun one. I have this thing, I donít know if itís a focus or if itís an other-dimensional experience or what. I refer to it as Franch, and that is a combination of the imagery. It looks most of the time like a cross between a feather and a branch, so I call it Franch. And Iím not sure what that is. Could you explain that a little bit to me?

ELIAS: This is an other-dimensional focus.

DEBI: What Iím seeing...

ELIAS: Is a translation, but fairly accurate.

DEBI: Like if I were in that dimension, thatís what the focus... Is that how that focus views its dimension or is that how...? Iím sitting there watching TV and all of a sudden Ė PHOOF! Ė Iím surrounded by these guys. I donít know if itís ďthese guysĒ or itís one guy or if itís just how that focus views their dimension. Is it any of those things?

ELIAS: I am understanding. Recognize that this is your translation into some objective imagery that is known to you within this physical dimension, which, as I have stated, in your translation is fairly accurate. This is not the manner in which they view each other or themselves, but it is the manner in which you might view them were you to allow yourself to confront yourself with one of these focuses.

DEBI: So I am confronting myself with them when Iím seeing them?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Theyíre getting closer, in a way. They used to be across the room, and then they were in the middle of the room, and a couple of times itís been like Ė WOO! Ė right there! (Elias laughs) And really green. Then the other night there was just a little squiggly red one right in front of me, and I didnít know if it was the same thing. So thatís me looking at me?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Delightful!

ELIAS: And others!

DEBI: So there are more in the room? When Iím seeing them, Iím seeing them?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Because everythingís really ... there is no real space. Is that where the yellow honeycomb veil is from? Is it between my physical dimension here and that dimensional focus?

ELIAS: This is your translation, yes.

DEBI: It refers to that same dimension.

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Oh, that is so cool! (Elias laughs) It really is! And itís absolutely lovely. I think I also get imagery of that occasionally in that in-between awake and dream state. It looks sort of plant-like. I love that! (Elias chuckles) Franch! So I can call it Franch. It does need a name, Ďcause itís one of me. Thanks for that!

I get a little nervous, though. A couple of times I havenít turned the light off Ďcause I only see them when I have dim lights Ė ooo, Iím not sure what that is yet! So now I know what it is!

ELIAS: Perhaps you may be perceiving them in similar manner to how you perceive pets.

DEBI: Oh, yeah! They are kind of right there, just like nice little dogs. They hang around me. Are they aware of me?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: They are? In that type of an energy, like a fondness, to kind of be aware of me?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Ah! Itís gonna make me cry! (Both laugh)

Speaking of pets, and this isnít even on my list, but I have a lovebird that has begun this incredibly funny thing where she tears off pieces of paper, turns around and stuffs them into her feathers, in between, like sheís stashing them there for something. What is that about? ĎCause Iím creating ... you know what I mean?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what is your impression?

DEBI: It could be storing up... Oh, is it like me gaining weight? (Laughs) Bulking up? I donít know!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) This is imagery associated with yourself.

DEBI: With my gaining weight? I shouldnít try to think about this, I should just ... I donít know. Is it like decoration? Is it like saving, storing up?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is imagery that you are providing to yourself in association with, in a manner of speaking, adding to yourself other aspects of yourself. You are investigating other focuses and allowing yourself to be viewing other aspects of yourself. In this, the creature is reflecting to you what you are expressing, for it is adding to itself.

DEBI: (Laughs) Itís so simple when you say it like that. Itís adorable, too! Oh, great! Thank you for that!

Okay Ė is Julia Ferber a focus of Oona?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Thatís why she looked so familiar Ė although that doesnít always work.

ELIAS: (Grins) Correct.

DEBI: We can look familiar ... well, you know what I mean, jellybean? How about Phillip Robin, future focus on that?

ELIAS: No.

DEBI: No! Thereís something there, though, more than just a monkey connection. (Elias nods) But thereís...

ELIAS: A familiarity.

DEBI: Is Phillip Vold?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Well, thereís THAT going on then. Is he Zuli aligned? (Pause)

ELIAS: No.

DEBI: Well, Iíll let them worry about that, then. So a familiarity with Phillip.

I got some imagery the other night in a dream state. Iím pretty sure it was another focus of mine because I did another one of those mirror things and that usually turns out to be that. A woman washing her hair, looking in the mirror, with salt and pepper gray hair, and I think thatís a focus of mine.

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Is her name Ann something like Volchek or Voytek or something like that?

ELIAS: Voldek.

DEBI: Voldek. Ann is her first name?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Is she involved in law enforcement?

ELIAS: In your terms, was.

DEBI: Is this a present now timeframe focus?

ELIAS: No.

DEBI: No. Hmm! Must investigate! (Laughs) You know that English couple we talked about last time that I got imagery of? You were the male, thatís a focus of you, and the female? Are we married and are we servants?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Is my name Ada?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Is your name John? Jonathan?

ELIAS: No.

DEBI: Okay, come on! (Both laugh) Victor?

ELIAS: No.

DEBI: (Laughing) Harold? Just playing! ĎCause you know Iím gonna get it. I will get it. Iíll spend a little bit of time with him. Servants, huh? Go figure, a couple of kids like us! (Elias laughs) Why not, huh?

Okay, your focus as a little black child that I saw, am I your uncle or a male family member of yours?

ELIAS: Grandfather.

DEBI: It had that paternal feel to it. Allison, Jeremy and Nicole Keyes Ė we also discussed these guys. My name is Allison Keyes, thatís a focus of mine. Is this in relation to Jeremy/Opan that I know in this focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Oh, okay! So I have a focus as one of his family members. (Elias nods) Hmm. Very interesting!

All right, letís talk about Dream Walkers for a moment, shall we? I have an impression that I have a Dream Walker aspect with a tone like Cielo, something like that.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Is it Cielo?

ELIAS: Cioelo (see oh AY low).

DEBI: And is this aspect involved in forming canyons and/or mountains?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Both Ė the depths and the heights, if you will! Anything else you want to tell me about that? ĎCause you know this is a real sketchy area for me! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Dream Walkers are not as complicated as you perceive them to be, although they engage quite a diverse and complicated action in the design of the blueprint of this physical reality, which is quite diverse.

DEBI: So, I think part of my difficulty comes with me wanting to view this Dream Walker aspect as different, separate Ė a separate category from the rest of myself. It feels like I try to do that.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: And thatís where my difficulty... So is it safe to say that I can slide right into Cioelo just as easily as I can slide into Ann Voldek or any of the...? (Elias nods) Okay.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Iím very attracted to that. Itís very Ė I donít even know what the word is Ė itís really kind of magical feeling. (Elias chuckles) You know what I mean?

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DEBI: Maybe thatís why I had those dreams not too far apart of the canyon and those incredibly colorful mountains and stuff. That was around that Dream Walker, I think, bringing that into my awareness.

ELIAS: And your curiosity and fascination.

DEBI: Yeah! (Both laugh) Thereís definitely that going on!

Thereís a thing that I experience in that tweener state Ė and you know what Iím talking about, right, between the awake objective and that totally dreamland. Itís really a hard one for me to describe, but itís a feeling around my ears and head, that when I become aware of it, I startle and I lose it. I donít feel really scared after the startling, but before, thatís my reaction. It seems like something new that Iím doing. Whatís going on there?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, figuratively what you are generating in that starting expression is quite similar to the experience of falling. In a manner of speaking, as if you were to be falling out of your bed in that moment and catching your balance and not allowing yourself to fall out of your bed.

This is an analogy that is similar to what you are actually generating, for you are allowing yourself to move into a type of state in which you are upon the threshold of falling into another state of consciousness, so to speak Ė a nonphysical state or expression of consciousness.

DEBI: Thatís what it feels like.

ELIAS: And prior to your allowance of yourself to move into that expression of consciousness, you catch yourself and you startle yourself in jerking yourself into an objective awareness.

DEBI: Is this the same? Everybody I know has had moments where they where they jerk and startle upon falling asleep, but this felt different. But is it kind of the same thing that happens then as well, or this is different?

ELIAS: This is a different expression.

DEBI: It is. It has a tonal feel up here of me kind of... So this is something new that Iím bringing into my awareness to get comfortable with it and play with?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: It feels like that, like Iím just bringing it along little by little, you know how I do, and then one day maybe Iíll be able to stay there. Maybe Iíll actually be able to notice myself moving more fluidly than that bluh! thing. (Elias chuckles)

Also I have had imagery in that tweener state of a black, a magenta and a white sparkly dot. Is that me flying into a different regional area or viewing something about that, because of those colors being associated with those? Whatís that about?

ELIAS: Yes, and your energy centers associated with those colors, which are not contained within your physical body consciousness. They are outside of your physical body consciousness, but they are also associated with your energy field.

DEBI: Is it similar or is this a whole other thing Ė occasionally I get an incredibly beautiful almost like a lit-up stained glass window type imagery just incorporating all these colors, and itís just almost too much to take in. And (snaps fingers) it lasts that long; otherwise I think it would just kill me. Itís just too beautiful, you know what I mean? Is that a similar...?

ELIAS: Yes, associated with your energy and what you project within your energy centers. The combination of these energy centers creates the energy field, which incorporates all of these energies and does express that type of aura, so to speak.

DEBI: It looks so structured though, as if Iíd put together the most magnificent stained glass that ever existed in the imagination.

ELIAS: I am understanding, for in a manner of speaking it is likened to a mosaic. For dependent upon the energy that you are projecting with each energy center, it creates different patterns within your energy field Ė which is, in a manner of speaking, a type of mosaic.

DEBI: Like looking through those kaleidoscope things. You turn it a little bit and itís a whole other pattern, equally beautiful but different combinations.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: I love those, and I could just sit and do that. I guess in a similar manner I do that in that state. I surprise myself and itís just a feeling of wonderment Ė Oooh! Is that ME? (Both laugh)

We talked about and also I got that fingerprint imagery regarding dealing with not comparing and examining that. For a while I was getting sort of a dot-like pattern that seemed like coming in that same state of consciousness I get. But I donít know what the dots are about. Is there anything special about that imagery?

ELIAS: And your impression?

DEBI: Galaxies? You know, I donít know.

ELIAS: It is imagery to yourself of how you may place together what may appear to be the smallest expressions, and as they are fit together, they create the picture.

DEBI: Oh! Itís so strange to think thatís what Iím doing. (Elias chuckles) Itís a nanosecond of awareness and itís meaningful enough that it got my attention.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: I translated some type of ... into something I would remember. It seems so simple. And I always want to make it the big puzzle Ďcause Iím so used to viewing myself as hiding so much of myself. (Elias chuckles) And the message is over and over, youíre not hidden from yourself.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Youíre just not. And it really is that simple.

ELIAS: Quite.

DEBI: Simple imagery. Look at the bird stuffing her butt with paper. What the heck!

ELIAS: And also that challenging to be interpreting Ė or to be applying.

DEBI: ďApplyingĒ Ė that word doesnít scare me as much as it used to. (Elias laughs) I have a lot more confidence now than I used to. I just do, you know. There it is. I donít even feel really that strange saying that. Itís okay. If I had any idea it would be like this I would have started looking at myself a lot sooner. You know what I mean?

ELIAS: For it offers you tremendous more freedom.

DEBI: Freedom! It blows the lid off of the jar.

ELIAS: It is quite contrary to what you suppose.

DEBI: Of course, freedom is also gonna be scary because itís different, but the fear factor is nothing like it used to be. Itís like okay, so what Ė gimme your best shot! What have you got; that all you got? (Elias chuckles) Come on Oona, bring out the next big scary thing and letís turn it around and look at it!

And so far everything Iíve discovered has been magnificent. There hasnít been anything bad. So whatís not to like?

ELIAS: I am quite understanding.

DEBI: I feel like I walk around on this planet like ďI got a secret!Ē (Elias laughs) Like I know something and I want everybody... I guess everybody does know it, right? It doesnít matter, itís MY world.

ELIAS: Which is more of an expression of appreciation of you.

DEBI: It is. Iím starting to have this knowing that even you are my configuration of your energy.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Pick something, anything, it doesnít matter. Mass events donít really depend a bit on what the masses are doing. Itís MY mass event. So I can take it out really big or I can bring it in really tiny. Iím starting to get that and itís...

ELIAS: Shifting.

DEBI: Wow, you know! (Elias laughs) Before I couldnít imagine because I had no frame of reference Ė what is this really gonna mean?

ELIAS: This is the value of experience, for the experience is what moves concept into reality.

DEBI: Absolutely. I used to make jokes about Iím not just gonna go to the lecture anymore, Iím gonna do the homework, and the homework just seemed like this big daunting thing. Somewhere in there I just went, oh Jesus, just give it a shot! Take a concept and say do I believe this or donít I? Is this true or is it not? Is Elias full of shit or is he talking the truth?

ELIAS: Experiment!

DEBI: Exactly. Once you get rolling itís like youíre on a roll. (Laughs) Iím so proud of myself! (Elias laughs) Iím proud of all of us, everyone thatís a player in my play that decided to donate. Iím just very grateful and appreciative, and proud of everybody for daring to just bring out the mirror and hold it up and say okay!

ELIAS: And well you should be.

DEBI: And well you should be, exactly. Well okay!

What about Seth? Am I getting Seth these days as that fizzy kind of tingling electric feeling in my mouth and tongue? Is that my interpretation of Sethís energy?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: With that Iím pretty sure Daryl and I have moved into the Sumari family in our family explorations.

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: Thought so! Iím gonna have to challenge myself a little Ďcause this is getting way too easy!

ELIAS: Ah! Be careful with your challenges! (Both laugh)

DEBI: I know, and I totally know that Ė the whole drama thing and all that. Speaking of that, I would like to know if you have kind of a simple... What is drama? What does that mean exactly?

ELIAS: It may be expressed differently by different individuals, but it is more of a perceived extreme of experiences.

Now; your degree of extreme is associated with the individual. Some individuals may be expressing some extreme and not view this as drama. Other individuals may view little extremes as great drama and larger extremes as traumatic. It is dependent upon the individual.

DEBI: I think I dabble in a little bit of all of that Ė taking the minutiae and making it big, and some things are huge and what are you gonna do, and then everything in-between. But in discussing my intent and moving into becoming more comfortable with it, which I am to a degree, it occurs to me a few times letís try to dissect this. What the hell is drama?

ELIAS: And drama is not always associated with negative.

DEBI: No, absolutely not. I mean, a sunset can be dramatic.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Things that make me go (gasp).

ELIAS: It offers an intensity of experience.

DEBI: Right. It really is effective, too. Itís incredibly effective when you can get past the judgment and all that. Itís so in the moment, in your face Ė there it is there, canít miss that! Iím starting to appreciate it a little bit more for those qualities.

ELIAS: Correct, and appreciating of yourself knowing that this is a natural expression that you offer, rather than expressing a challenging of yourself with that or discounting of yourself.

DEBI: I miss so much doing that. Thereís just so much information available without all that extra crap all around it. (Elias chuckles) Itís been really way less traumatic and less stressful to kind of start playing with it and get into it and explore it.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Some individuals generate drama naturally and this is a natural expression. Therefore, discounting and judging of that merely creates more difficulty and more of a thickness within the individualís energy.

DEBI: It feels like taffy. (Elias chuckles) Itís not fun at all when itís like that.

I had an experience yesterday morning where someone was tapping my leg and it woke me up. And Iím pretty sure it was you and/or Ordin and/or Patel, and maybe some of your other co-conspirators. (Laughs) But I got you three for sure!

ELIAS: You are correct.

DEBI: It was you guys. It was really cool, too, because at first I got feels like Ordin, and then feels like Elias, and you know what Patel does.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) My dear one!

DEBI: Dear jokester! Yes, your dear one. And I looked at the clock and it was 4:11, which is oh-so significant in that thereís some information here! (Both laugh) And I donít know what the information was. Thatís as far as I got. But it was really cool because it didnít freak me out; it didnít scare me. It was enjoyable.

ELIAS: It was merely an expression of ďnotice.Ē

DEBI: Oh, okay. And I did! You guys totally woke me up! (Elias laughs) Was that the intention?

ELIAS: Quite!

DEBI: For me to get it objectively. Thatís so funny! Itís so cool that I got that! Practicing and playing around with you guysí energy made it that easy. It just did. It was so neat. Thanks!

ELIAS: It is an expression that YOU are generating in openness.

DEBI: You guys can wake me up whenever you want.

ELIAS: Very well!

DEBI: But I will request one thing. I donít ever want to SEE you all standing next to my bed! Of course, that would be my choice, right?

ELIAS: Ah, yes!

DEBI: Nah, Iím gonna never say never. But I thought of that later Ė that was cool, but what if they... Well, they didnít, so donít even go there. It was really fun. Thanks, guys! (Elias laughs)

I have a question for Ashrah, and Iíll just read it to you, okay? ďIn linear time, did Sealeís friend, who is a fragmented focus of Ashrah, fragment recently between Sealeís session and Myrandaís session with you?Ē (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DEBI: That takes care of part number two Ė I donít need to ask you.

Let me ask you this real quick. I have the big physical body, sex, weight gain, self-image, all that Ė it seems to me a really big topic that I want to talk to you about. I donít know if maybe we could touch base or... What it feels like to me is this is going to be an on-going dialog between you and I, because it seems kind of large.

ELIAS: Very well.

DEBI: Iím not sure quite sure how to kick it off, but the things that I am aware of specifically are very obvious. Iíve put on weight, I havenít been interested in sex, and having been a drug addict and all that and physical body as the enemy, it all seems very much connected to the same issue.

And Iíve thought about this, too, about how that gig I did as a prostitute Ė cause and effect, that would be why I donít want the sex. But that seems like a camouflage, you know what I mean? Just like having been a drug addict isnít really the issue. Thatís camouflage for the real issue, which seems to be a separating out and a distrust and a disdain for things physical. Which is so contradictory, because I look around and I see so much physical beauty.

But when I turn the camera to me, itís awful and horrible and so are all of you, like that. Iím kind of uncomfortable staying there now, physically putting on the weight and making myself even less attractive...

ELIAS: Which is another camouflage.

DEBI: Another camouflage, but itís attention getting. Lately Iím going, ďWhat am I doing?Ē I can no longer look at this like I used to, like youíre eating too much. Thatís not what itís about! Can you help me pull together whatever it is Iím trying to ask you, please?

ELIAS: It is an expression of protection. Perhaps you may be noticing and paying attention to the frequency of this influence within your beliefs and what you generate in association with that expression of protection. Which I shall offer you a tiny hint, this also shall be partially our topic on the morrow.

DEBI: Oh, really? Maybe I better go to the talk tomorrow.

ELIAS: It is your choice.

DEBI: I know, but it sounds like Iím giving myself a clue through you...

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: ...that it would behoove me to hear the conversation. Protection, itís everywhere. I lock my doors on the car, go to the Versateller, get money out, Iím looking around, where are my children Ė must protect, must...

ELIAS: Which is significant that you pay attention.

DEBI: Is this number two or three in the line of most common automatic responses for me? (Laughs) I think itís probably second or third. (Elias nods) It is. And whichever one is the other would be Iím responsible for creating your reality, youíre responsible for creating mine?

ELIAS: That would be third.

DEBI: That would be third. The protection is second.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: The big three. Thatís what Iíve been showing myself lately.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: The theme of automatic responses, primary automatic response, seemed to me weíre going to kick this off with the primary, but thatís just the kick-off. Because this is huge, and this is whatís totally going to open the door to choosing the reality that I want.

ELIAS: Correct, and to your freedom, intentionally, in recognizing what you generate in automatic pilot.

DEBI: Iím so aware even on a small scale of that being just huge. But weíre going to get through this. Weíre GOING to get around this, through it, whatever the term is! I really know that we will. I will.

ELIAS: Quite! This is the process of acceptance.

DEBI: Yes, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. (Elias chuckles) And I guess it wouldnít be meaningful for me to totally take the lid off the jar all at one time. It would be overwhelming.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: Thatís why the pace is set at letís start here and letís get comfortable.

ELIAS: And the process is purposeful.

DEBI: Right. Itís not necessary, but I think it would just not work any other way.

I feel like sometimes Iím getting my questions ready for you and itís almost like Iíve got nothing. (Elias laughs) I have this list of questions of things, but I feel like...

ELIAS: And perhaps it is merely the interaction that you seek.

DEBI: Yes, absolutely! Itís very enjoyable. Itís fun. Itís certainly different than the rest of my days have been this week and all of that! I want the closeness and I want to look you in the eyes, whoeverís eyes youíre looking out of. I know that you, me, all of us, everybodyís in so much constant communication, and I donít even need to ask the question. I already know.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But it also offers you a practice in trust as you offer yourself validation.

DEBI: It is a physical dimension that I have quite purposefully chosen Ė and youíve chosen to play here, too, with us.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: And so why blow that off? Why not just do that, too?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEBI: I hear myself asking you questions and I already hear the answers sometimes. Not necessarily in words, but I go, ďAw, forget it, Iím not even going to ask him that!Ē

Iíve got a couple of minutes left, so I wonít go anymore into detail on the protection thing. I think Iíll play with that myself and actually generate some real questions when I can get more specific. I needed to kind of know what the topic was.

Iíve also been kind of playing with the vulnerability thing on this list that I apparently have generated for myself and expressing myself. Iíve been playing with expressing myself in the workplace in areas that I hadnít been before Ė kind of put my toe in and see what it feels like. And itís been okay! I wonít lie and say, ďOh, itís wonderfully freeing!Ē and all that. It IS, but there is certainly a tentativeness about it still.

ELIAS: It is incremental.

DEBI: Right, just like everything else. So Iím just going to continue doing that and hanging around with my impressions and youse guys. (Laughs) I canít wait to see what we do next!

ELIAS: And continue to be offering yourself opportunities to trust yourself.

DEBI: Absolutely. Well, I suppose thatís about it for today, then...

ELIAS: Very well.

DEBI: ...in this manner.

ELIAS: But always continuing.

DEBI: Always! (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next interaction, quite soon. I offer my affection to you as always, my friend, and my continued encouragement.

DEBI: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: In tremendous fondness, au revoir.

DEBI: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 3:05 PM.


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