Tuesday, March 18, 2003
ďChecking in with EliasĒ
Participants: Mary (Michael), Gina (Bahlah) and Nicky (Candace).
Elias arrives at 10:05 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
GINA: Good morning! How are you?
ELIAS: As always, and yourself?
GINA: Oh, Iím doing wonderful. Whatís going on with my fragmentation? Can I ask?
ELIAS: It is not complete.
GINA: Can you tell me exactly what is going on with that?
ELIAS: In what capacity?
GINA: What about with my chakras? Iíve been getting like an opening or something in my sternum area.
ELIAS: And your impression as to what is occurring?
GINA: Iím not really sure, thatís why Iím asking. I get pain, basically; it hurts sometimes.
ELIAS: This is not necessarily an expression of your energy centers, so to speak, but rather a manifestation that you are creating within your physical body consciousness.
GINA: What about the swirling sensation that I get? Iím going to assume that it is my imagery of my red chakra, when it swirls and I get an overwhelming feeling like I want to go ahead and just jump up and down. What does that one mean?
ELIAS: This sensation IS associated with that particular energy center. What is occurring is an action of the energy center being focused upon and activated more so than you generally engage it, expanding the radiation of that particular energy center. The reason that you are engaging that action is to slow your energy more so and allow you to begin to evaluate more clearly within your actions and behaviors.
GINA: That makes sense. I understand now.
How many focuses do I have in Mexico?
ELIAS: Your impression?
GINA: Itís quite a few. Iím going to have to say probably around twelve.
GINA: Was I a Toltec? Toltec seems to be very visual lately in imagery.
GINA: In our last session, you said I was an acquaintance of Crowley. You, in that same focus, were Oscar Wilde, and you guys knew each other. Therefore we had to have met. So out of our six focuses that we share together, did we meet?
GINA: Iím going to go ahead with the imagery of acquaintances.
GINA: Oh! In my imagery, was I Frank Harris?
GINA: Evangeline Adams? No?
GINA: You said there were three other essences involved in my fragmentation. Has anything changed? My essence name is still the same?
GINA: Energy signature is still the same?
GINA: Everything is the same, still?
GINA: Something is different, though Ė I donít know what it is. Is it fluctuating between something? Is my name or anything fluctuating?
ELIAS: Aspects. This is not an affectingness in relation to fragmentation. In actuality, for the most part within a physical focus the individual does not actually experience physical affectingnesses or much alteration within their personality or tone as the process of fragmentation is continuing, and for the most part the individual does not objectively experience much difference even in the completion of fragmentation.
GINA: Can you give me names for the essences that are involved? You said Iíve never met them before. I donít know if theyíre physically manifest or if theyíre just in essence.
ELIAS: One does incorporate physical focuses within your particular dimension; the other two do not.
GINA: You said it is essenceís choice as far as when it decides to go ahead and fragment totally.
GINA: Can you tell me why I am prolonging this situation?
ELIAS: It is not a question of prolonging, for outside of your physical dimension, time is simultaneous. Therefore, it is merely a matter of assimilating and configuring energy and qualities which are preferred.
GINA: Letís go to the next one. How many focuses do Mary and I share?
ELIAS: And your impression?
GINA: Is there any one in particular that is significant?
ELIAS: All of them are significant!
GINA: I know. I didnít know how to word that one! (Elias laughs) How many other dimensional focuses do I have?
ELIAS: This is not to be numbered, for this would be quite inaccurate and distorted. Other physical dimensions and other areas of consciousness fluctuate, and therefore it would be highly inaccurate to even estimate at an actual numbering.
GINA: A few years back I had a dream or I was in dream state and a girlfriend of mine said that I was speaking a different language. Was that essence language, or was it a language from another country?
ELIAS: Another focus.
GINA: Was it Italian language?
GINA: Out of all my focuses in Asia, was I ever mastered in any of the martial arts? I have a feeling Ė my imagery is that I was.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
GINA: Was it Tai Chi?
GINA: Is that the only one that I was mastered in or were there others? (Pause)
ELIAS: One other, and what is your impression?
GINA: My imagery is telling me something with sword fighting. Not sword fighting, but something to do with using the hands.
GINA: Iím trying to think of all the different martial arts that incorporate... Karate?
GINA: In my focus as Anna Magnani, did I ever know well or did I just meet Rudy Valentino?
GINA: Just met, thatís it?
GINA: How many focuses shared with William?
ELIAS: And your impression?
GINA: The other day when we were all sitting outside and I saw imagery of her as another focus, was it a Greek focus? She had like a little thing on her head, maybe a little older.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
GINA: Were we friends in that focus?
GINA: Also, the other day there was a little energy exchange that was going on. I wasnít quite understanding what it was, and I was wondering if you could explain to me what the experience was for. The energy was hostile.
ELIAS: Offer description of your perception of this experience.
GINA: I wasnít quite understanding myself until I actually heard her explain herself. I thought maybe she thought that she was being smothered, like a smothering effect on herself. She said thatís not what she was feeling, but to me thatís what she was trying to express to me.
ELIAS: Now offer your perception of YOUR experience.
GINA: I was confused in the energy that was being projected. I wasnít really understanding where or why, what the reason was.
ELIAS: Very well. Let me express to you more specifically. Offer to myself an explanation of the actual interaction and the scenario.
GINA: You want me to tell you what she said, or how she came across to me?
ELIAS: The actual interaction and the actual experience in the scenario.
GINA: She basically said that she wanted to speak with me and with my mother. It turned out that it was basically just with me. She said that she felt very overwhelmed by all the company she has been having over the last several months. She basically told me that she felt that I was kind of like the icing on the cake, so to speak, as far as recognizing things that she had felt, like she was being overburdened with people being at her house, probably since the middle or end of last year, something like that.
I wasnít understanding her. Mylo was there and she had her daughter over there and her son over there. Basically what I guess she was trying to express to me was that she was not wanting my essence around at all! So I was understanding of where she was coming from, because she said that I had irritated it to the point where she needed to say something about everything. She said she wasnít putting blame on me, but it was like I said, like icing on the cake for her. I was understanding where she was coming from, but I couldnít understand why the energy was so strong. I actually felt her anger. I can feel that kind of stuff. It was kind of like a blow; it was like whoa!
ELIAS: Now; offer explanation of what occurred subsequent in the offering of explanation, so to speak, from the other individual to you.
GINA: Offer to myself?
ELIAS: No, no. Express to me what occurred subsequent.
GINA: What occurred after the situation?
ELIAS: Correct. You express to...
GINA: She seemed to be a lot calmer, and the situation seems to be a lot calmer. It seems like everyone has a better understanding, I guess.
ELIAS: I am questioning you quite specifically, which shall become clear subsequently. But it is significant that you allow yourself to genuinely examine all that occurred within this situation. Therefore, what I am asking you is, once the presentment of the statements was offered, you experienced a particular projection of energy from her.
Now; what was her interaction immediately following the initial statements that confused you?
GINA: Oh, that she said no? Because she was saying that she had said no, and I wasnít understanding of that. You mean like after everything was said and she was sitting on the couch? She was taking everything in and wondering why she brings Ė well, not she, because we all do it Ė why she brings things like that to her attention. I think that was something that everyone... What initially happened was something that we ALL go through all the time, that you can say no.
ELIAS: Correct. What confused you?
GINA: No, it didnít confuse me! I mean, it did, because I had been through this many times myself.
ELIAS: This is what I am inquiring of you: what was the point of your confusion?
GINA: No, I donít want to say that I was very confused. I used the wrong word. It was just the energy feel, when I was sitting there. Otherwise I was understanding of what she was saying.
ELIAS: I am understanding. But you did not incorporate the wrong terminology, in your terms. You expressed actually quite accurately, that your perception of the situation WAS confused, for the individual is verbally communicating an exchange to you which did not match the energy, and that was what was con...
GINA: Exactly! It didnít match. Thatís a feeling of energy that I particularly donít care to feel anymore.
ELIAS: I am understanding. But the significance of this exchange and this interaction is in response to your question ďwhat was occurring in that interaction?Ē The significance is that you participated in an interaction with another individual and received and recognized the energy projection from the other individual which did not match what was being expressed in the communication, and you noticed. This is what generated the confusion within you, for the expression was not matching the energy.
Now; what is significant in this is allowing yourself to pay attention to the energy, regardless of what is being stated verbally or regardless of what is being engaged in action, for energy is much more accurate and immediate than whatever you may generate in verbal communication or in actions. The energy expression is genuine.
GINA: I understand now. (Sighs)
My fragmentation Ė is the process affecting of Candace in any way, even though sheís Sumari and Iím Sumafi? We were from the same essence, right? So would that be affecting of her, though?
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
GINA: Is my essence involved in a chapter focus?
ELIAS: And what is your impression?
GINA: I donít really know; I donít really have an impression on that. Iíve heard about chapter focuses and sometimes my imagery, not imagery, but sometimes I think it is and sometimes I think it isnít, especially because of the fragmentation thatís been going on. I really donít know a whole lot about the information; Iím just kind of learning.
ELIAS: Yes, you do participate in chapter focuses. In this, you may investigate which books, so to speak Ė which is a figurative term Ė that you engage chapter focuses in association with. (Pause)
GINA: Iím going to ask a question for William, just probably a yes or no. She wants to know if her daughter is going through fragmentation.
GINA: How many focuses in Ireland?
ELIAS: Offer impression.
GINA: England Ė Iím going to go with a higher number. Iím going to say nine.
GINA: What is Marthaís family orientation?
ELIAS: Are you requesting families and orientation?
GINA: Yes, sorry.
ELIAS: And your impression?
GINA: Well, sheís a talker. I donít know all the families Ė I mean, Iím learning. Ilda?
GINA: What about Mye? I want to go ahead and say he is I want to say Sumafi, but Iím not really sure Ė Sumafi or Sumari, one of the two.
GINA: Not sure about the orientation.
GINA: Are they both common?
GINA: Iím not sure about the alignment with him. Could you offer?
GINA: Is there anything else you can tell me about this... Oh, my headaches! This guy did a thing on me, on my head. He did an alignment on me and my headaches have not been as bad. I think the sensations that I get in my head now are just because of the widening of the awareness, correct?
ELIAS: Partially, yes.
GINA: What else can you tell me about that situation?
ELIAS: You also generate at times this painfulness within your head in association with forcing your energy at times, pushing yourself.
GINA: Sometimes Iíll just get so overwhelmed. Itís really kind of a different situation sometimes. Iíll get really super overwhelmed to where itís like I donít know what to do with my energy. Other times Iíll be very, very, very super tired, where itís like I just donít even want to be around people. Do you know what Iím saying?
ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.
GINA: I just wondered if you could explain to me what exactly was out of alignment that Iím not having the headaches as bad anymore.
ELIAS: It is not necessarily a matter of misalignment but more in association with a force of your energy, and in this, a holding to your energy in a manner of tightness which generates a tension within your physical body consciousness and your energy field. You hold to that energy in a center, so to speak, within your head, and in that action you also do fatigue yourself in not allowing yourself a free flow of your energy.
In paying attention to yourself and listening to yourself and allowing yourself to act in association with your communications to yourself, you shall dissipate these headaches, so to speak, and also generate more of an expression of energy within yourself rather than experiencing this fatigue.
What occurs is that you force your energy in manners contrary to what you actually want, and in that action, you hold tightly to your energy in forcing yourself to engage actions that you do not necessarily prefer. Therefore, you generate this painfulness as a signal to yourself.
This is also the reason that you are affecting of your red energy center, to allow your energy to slow itself that you may be more clearly and effectively allowing yourself to pay attention to you, rather than projecting your attention outside of yourself and expressing compliance with the expressions of other individuals rather than listening to yourself.
GINA: Iím going to ask you some essence names. My Aunt Linda, what is her family, her orientation and all that? (Speaks to Nicky, off the line) Okay, can I just have her essence name then, please?
ELIAS: Essence name, Lydi, L-Y-D-I (LID dee).
GINA: What about George?
ELIAS: Essence name, Flawn, F-L-A-W-N (FLAWN).
GINA: What about my Uncle Nick?
ELIAS: This has been engaged previously.
GINA: Oh, it has been? Okay.
You know what? Iím going to go ahead and hand you over to Candace, and in the meantime Iím going to go over my questions and make sure I didnít miss anything.
ELIAS: Very well.
NICKY: Good morning!
ELIAS: Good morning, Candace!
NICKY: And how are you this day?
ELIAS: As always, and yourself?
NICKY: As always! (Elias laughs) Listen, Iíve got a couple of questions for you that I do have impressions on and a couple of them are guesses.
My gibberish has been SO strong, not in the most recent past days but in the most recent past. I automatically went to the arena that I was being helpful to myself because of whatever I was dealing with in those moments. But it was like really strong. If I wasnít smoking a cigarette or eating, I was in it.
ELIAS: Describe ďit.Ē
NICKY: (Laughs) My gibberish, that language to myself, that undecipherable thing that weíve discussed before. I was wondering how much more closer, if at all, am I to gaining some type of recognition when Iím in that mode?
It seems like I have an understanding at times. I had very much of an awareness of issues that I was going through. There seemed to be a little bit more ease within them. When wanting to go to my thoughts and getting scrambled up, it was much more effortless not to have to go there within the recognition of exactly what I was doing, and moving along the other way. Iím wondering if, within that, Iím getting a better understanding of my own language.
NICKY: Oh, cool! (Elias laughs) Iím so happy!
I have one question in reference to a person named Antonio. I feel a very strong connection; therefore Iím going to take it for granted that I do. But my impression is that maybe, aside from being counterpart Ė well, not necessarily counterpart Ė but that weíve shared focuses together, and in this focus I have a strong admiration for him.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
NICKY: Might that have been brothers, or sister and brother?
ELIAS: Yes, and other relationships also.
NICKY: Very cool. Let me see. The last session I had with you, I had asked about a situation and you offered me information on opposite counterpart. I was experiencing opposite counterpart expression.
NICKY: Within the viewing now Ė and Iím going to go with the thing that my way of looking at things, my being common Ė the viewing of this person also reminded me of Antonio. Now within that part of it, Iím looking to get a better handle on this opposite counterpart thing. Does it mean that itís most likely that when youíre dealing with someone of opposite counterpart that there is more not necessarily conflict, but youíre more on your toes, more challenged?
ELIAS: At times, yes. At times individuals do experience significant conflict with an opposite counterpart if they are engaging them and generating an interaction with them.
NICKY: Do I have opposite counterpart action going on with Don?
NICKY: Thatís what I thought. Back to the viewing of this person Ė and Iím talking physically Ė the physical person reminded me of Antonio. I see the imagery, but Iím not quite getting a handle on what the imagery was, other than the similarity in looks.
ELIAS: And what information have you offered yourself in relation to energy expressions?
NICKY: Golly. Well, thatís where Iíve gotten a little bit tangled up in my head. Because just viewing is one thing, but what I experience in feeling is a warm tender-heartedness with Antonio. It was the viewing of the other one Ė because of what did happen Ė but in the viewing... God, what was I experiencing in the energy? Hmm. Well, I guess thatís the part that was confusing, which you helped clear up when you said it was opposite counterpart action going on. Curiosity, I guess I would say. Curiosity with the opposite counterpart action in the viewing was pleasurable; in the experience, as I explained to you, I couldnít find a hole deep enough to swallow myself in.
Now; this is also significant, Candace, in recognizing the different experiences that you generate in association with different energies. The reason being is that within physical focus individuals tend to generate associations with individuals in relation to the physical presentment or in relation to similarities of names. These are two very common expressions, that individuals automatically move into an association of some type of connection, so to speak, merely based upon appearance or names.
But as I have stated many times previously, when being questioned as to physical appearances of individuals being quite similar and therefore the automatic association is that those individuals must be connected or are focuses of the same essence or are generating some type of connection in familiarity or in essence expressions, not necessarily. Individuals may incorporate the same essence name and may not be of the same essence. It is a translation into a word within your physical dimension. Individuals may also physically appear quite similar, but they may be expressing quite different energy projections.
NICKY: Then Iím going to go along with thatís what Iíve been playing with lately. Thatís what Iíve been giving myself examples of, more of the energy expression instead of or in lieu of the physical manifestation of that energy expression.
ELIAS: Correct, and also offering yourself information in a reverse action of what I have expressed to other individuals to explore Ė exploring the similarity in differences. What you are allowing yourself to explore is the differences in similarities.
NICKY: Cool! Thank you! Thatís what I thought. (Both laugh)
Now, from that point, Iím going to go with a neighbor of mine. Thereís a tremendous fellowship kind of thing going on, like Iíve known him for years and years. Iím going to not go with the viewing of the person, because thatís what really first caught my eye, the similarities with other people. But his energy tells me all kinds of stuff Ė itís unbelievable. So Iím going to go with a guess that he is Sumari, although along with that I spring right into the Tumold arena because his energy is just so accepting.
NICKY: Oh, Tumold/Sumari!
NICKY: So cool!
Now to pop back with my gibberish, because it is a curiosity and I do play with it. I like to play with a lot of things lately, and Iím looking to keep getting a finer line of seeing how I move, for myself. I notice that Iíve been doing a lot within my actual choosing, that Iím still in the area of really preferring to be by myself in the arena as far as not having a constant influx of companionship. Itís like mine is more of a variety of things than one person.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
NICKY: So within that line of thought, does that have to do with the arenas that I like to play in, the wanting to know more or experience becoming more aware of my own energy expression, and so therefore thatís why I like to play in that arena and view those kinds of things?
NICKY: So thatís why itís not important to me to have one type of relationship?
NICKY: Speaking of relationships, is this one of the waves that is still pretty heightened, that of relationships?
ELIAS: As to the manner in which you offer yourself information?
ELIAS: Yes, but not necessarily in association with romantic relationships.
NICKY: I seem to give myself a lot of feedback or imagery or whatever words you want to use, sometimes Ė not all the time Ė sometimes in the arena of not wanting a personal relationship because of not being able to let my hair down, so to speak. When that kind of information is coming to me, what am I really saying to me? I think Iím just really saying I donít want to participate in a personal level, because within a personal level that can be expressed in many different ways with many different people.
ELIAS: That is correct.
NICKY: Cool. Let me see, what else was it I wanted to ask you? Whatís going on en masse right now, all of the hullabaloo with war/not war, conversations, looking to make peace, back and forth and everything? Is that related to not the relationship belief system... What is the major wave going on right now, aside from duplicity and sexuality?
ELIAS: Both of these continue.
NICKY: Have relationships been, within that arena, also intertwined? It just seems to me so much of that is, I mean, for me, so therefore naturally I project it everywhere else.
ELIAS: Not as much, but there are some expressions of that belief system which are continuing to be addressed to. But for the most part it is more strongly associated with sexuality and duplicity, and the challenge of moving within this shift and matching energies.
NICKY: And therefore the conflict.
NICKY: Oh, interesting. I guess that has everything to do with when one is practicing paying attention to self and staying relaxed, there is no matching of energies, then.
ELIAS: Correct! Correct, and as I have stated recently, this in actuality is quite significant and the responsibility of each individual, recognizing that what you project is affecting of the entirety of the collective and what is occurring. Therefore, within your experiences in each day in actions that you view to be mundane or insignificant, you continue to be expressing those actions influenced by beliefs, and how you express these actions and what beliefs you continue to express and project energy outwardly in association with is what also contributes to this matching of energy or not matching of energy.
NICKY: To slip over to one other side, Bahlah and myself, I know there are no favorites, but maybe one that weíre more fond of, would that have been the one that we shared as sisters in Greece?
NICKY: Mikah was, I think, the mother, wasnít he? I think Mikah was the mother.
NICKY: I had an impression after reading this book of a focus name of mine being Rachel. That would have been in the time span of... Oh, wow! Was my name Rachel?
NICKY: In that focus we were just talking about, with Bahlah?
NICKY: That just reminded me of something else. My essence name, Candace Ė I had originally a long time ago asked you about or made mention, rather, about researching words and meanings. I like getting into these things and now Iím looking to get into it with myself. But did I have the experience of being a Candace?
ELIAS: Within physical focus?
NICKY: In Mero Ė I think thatís the name of it Ė which is outside Ethiopia?
NICKY: Would I have happened to have been the Candace that had a big snafu with another tribe? Although those kinds of things happened a lot, I did read somewhere about a particular one Ė I donít know if she was number one, number two, number three. I donít know if they named them the same way they did the Cleopatras Ė one, two, three and four. But I read a short article and this specific Candace was mentioned, and I almost was wanting to identify with her.
NICKY: Cool. And my focus, with Arno Rucker, as Dimetra Ė was she of Greek descent? No, she was of Greek descent. Was she also French? I donít know all that much about her and my impressions on her are very vague.
ELIAS: Within what you term to be lineage, yes.
NICKY: Right, thatís where I was going, with the lineage.
What else was I wanting to ask you? Iím just looking to become more familiar with my own movement, and I think Iíve been doing really well. Itís like being able to connect my dots a little bit more effortlessly. (Elias laughs) Sometimes not!
ELIAS: But I may be acknowledging of you, for you are generating much more of an awareness of yourself and becoming much more familiar.
NICKY: Iím asking this one for outright validation, for me to be telling me that Iím getting stronger Ė I would use the word ďstrongerĒ Ė in that area. It seems to me Iím getting a better handle, for lack of a different word, in the arena for myself about this responding to or reacting to othersí opinions, and yet being aware at the same time of that aspect of me thatís involved and yet being aware of my own choices within the matter.
NICKY: It seems like thatís really an incorporation that Iím overwhelming myself with.
ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.
NICKY: Thatís the area that Iím heading to, that Iím getting a clearer understanding on?
NICKY: So cool. So how are things in never-never land?
ELIAS: (Laughs) Amusing as always! (Both laugh)
NICKY: Is there anything else outside of what was brought up that would be helpful in my own movement, something that Iíve not become aware of as of yet that you can give me a clue to so I can investigate? (Elias laughs) Beat you to it!
ELIAS: I may express to you, perhaps allow yourself to be noticing. As you are exploring differences, perhaps allow yourself to also explore the difference of expressing beliefs that you may not necessarily be as clearly objectively aware of expressing and disagreeing with those same beliefs that you hold.
NICKY: Could you say that again? Expressing...?
ELIAS: Examining the beliefs that you express but that you are not necessarily clearly aware of objectively expressing, for you disagree objectively with those beliefs. Therefore, the automatic association is that you do not incorporate certain beliefs or that you do not express them when in actuality you do.
NICKY: Have I been giving myself hints of that in the most recent time period?
NICKY: Yeah, okay. Because I have taken note of that and I wasnít sure exactly what was going on.
NICKY: Could you give me an example of something, a thought process Ė not necessarily a thought process Ė but something that Iíve just done? In other words, give me a clue as to... Oh, god, I should be giving you the clue, I have the impression!
NICKY: (Laughs) Duh! Doggone it, I have a feel for it. This is the other thing Ė I have a feel for a lot of things and not quite always getting to the point of expressing.
ELIAS: I am understanding. Your clues lie in what you do Ė not what you think, but what you do.
NICKY: So even there too, itís what youíre doing. Anything that youíre participating in, no matter what aspect youíre exploring from, itís in the doing.
ELIAS: Correct, and that doing may be quite automatic and unnoticed.
NICKY: That point there is what Iíve just been giving myself recently a sense of.
ELIAS: Yes, and this is the reason that I express it to you. (Both laugh)
NICKY: I think our time has come to an end. Oh, Bahlah has one more question. She wanted to know if thereís an addition to her focuses. She had 663 and she wants to know if thereís been an addition.
NICKY: And mine is still the same? Mine is like 47 or 52 or something like that.
ELIAS: It remains the same.
NICKY: Okay, love. I guess itís time to split.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well!
NICKY: Our hour is over!
ELIAS: As always, I express my affection and playfulness to you, Candace, and express my affection to Bahlah also.
NICKY: Yes, I will.
ELIAS: To you both in great fondness, au revoir.
NICKY: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 11:07 AM.
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