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Sunday, August 03, 1997

<  Session 203 (Group/Castaic)  >

“Shifting Probabilities”


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Cathy (Shynla), David (Mylo), Gail (William), Bob (Siman), Drew (Matthew), Tom (James), Dennis (Gaylord), and two new participants, Don and Bobbi. (No essence names were given.)

Elias arrives at 6:39 PM. (Time was eight seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening. We shall begin with our game, and then we shall be discussing your shift and this wave of acceptance occurring in consciousness presently. (Pause)

GAIL: I’ll start. Vold, flowers, morning glory.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

DENNIS: I would like to align myself with the Sumari family.

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: I’ll go. Milumet, places, Kilimanjaro.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: Gramada, quotes, “It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book.”

ELIAS: One point. (Smiling)

VICKI: For Mary: Zuli, rock bands, Queen.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For Joanne: Ilda, authors, J.D. Salinger.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For Paul: Sumari, artists, Stevie Wonder.

ELIAS: Less probable.

VICKI: Sumafi, authors, Norm Friedman.

ELIAS: Less probable. (Smiling)

VICKI: Ilda, quotes, “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.”

ELIAS: Express, re-evaluate color.

VICKI: Ilda, characters ... I guess he’s introducing a category of characters ... Guinan, from Star Trek, The Next Generation.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For myself: Ilda, animals, dinosaur.

ELIAS: One point.

DREW: I have one, if there’s no category already, for physical activity, jogging with Tumold.

ELIAS: You may be expressing within physical pleasures.

DREW: Physical exercise, pleasures specifically?

ELIAS: This be an existing category.

DREW: Oh, okay. Would jogging fall under Tumold in that category?

ELIAS: Acceptable.

DREW: Thank you.

TOM: Did we play the last name and location of the last baby?

ELIAS: No.

TOM: Hong Kong.

ELIAS: Less probable.

TOM: Mongolia? (Laughter)

ELIAS: Less probable.

TOM: Valencia!

ELIAS: Guessing, guessing, guessing! (Pause) Very well ...

BOB: I have one. Is the last baby Turkey?

ELIAS: Less probable.

BOB: I wasn’t guessing, though!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Welcome to new essences this evening! (Here, Elias becomes quite serious and remains so throughout the session )

Presently, you all are experiencing affectingness of a massive wave in consciousness, which theme connected to this wave is that of acceptance. I have spoken recently often of this wave in consciousness that is occurring, although I am understanding that many of you are not quite understanding the scope of this wave occurring presently and its affectingness within each of you, and also en masse. This wave of acceptance you are each responding to within your own individual manners, but this wave of acceptance is directly a recognition of the movement and the action of your shift, and the acceptance and the lack of acceptance of this shift. I have been expressing to you for much of your time period that you shall be noticing more and more of the affects of the shift before you, this being another one of these affects.

I have expressed to you recently, seriously, of this wave of acceptance, for the reason that serious action is occurring within this wave. Some individuals respond more strongly than other individuals. Those individuals which are connected to essence families within the capacity of Seers – and the like within other essence families – shall be experiencing affects of this wave more strongly than other individuals, and shall be experiencing more difficulty within the acceptance of the movement. This movement, as I have expressed to you many times, is not within your own small locations, but within the entirety of your globe; this being what you are feeling presently and responding to, although you do not objectively attach to the reasoning. Bleed-throughs are beginning, and you are beginning to attach more objective awareness to the actions that you encounter and the feelings that you experience. Also, your experiences increase. You may be, as I have stated, feeling within you agitated or frustrated or confused or impatient with yourselves or with other individuals, and you may feel confused within your behavior. This you be may expecting.

This wave is beginning within your continents and moving outward. I have expressed to you many times that you do not create accidents and that all time is simultaneous. Therefore, within probabilities and within actions that you choose and elements of your existence that you create, you create everything purposefully, even to the point of the placement of the continents upon your planet. Look to your globe and view that the continents of what you term as your Americas are removed from all the other continents upon your planet. This has been purposefully arranged within the knowingness of your Dream Walkers; for in recognition of the shift and the movement in consciousness, this movement begins within your physical land locations of these continents. Other mass and Source Events have originated in other areas of your planet, other continents which have been purposefully placed in creation within close proximity to each other. One only other continent is removed, which shall be the next continent that carries the movement of this shift in early recognition.

Therefore, here within your location of your countries upon these continents, you begin experiencing and feeling the initial movement of this shift. You look to yourselves and you look to this essence and you express wonderings of what you shall do, of how you shall proceed. I have expressed to you that you shall be engaging your own creativity in these endeavors, but I shall also express to you, as I have previously, you are the forerunners. (Pause) You move presently within consciousness and add to the movement that others shall be engaging subsequently.

You have created this reality within physical linear time. Therefore, within this dimension, time is a reality to you. All things do not move at once within your consciousness, which is registered within Regional Area 1 and 2 within this dimension. Movement occurs in sequences. Therefore, within the action of this shift, your movement also occurs within sequences. If this be not what you were creating, your shift would be accomplished presently within your objective reality. I have expressed to you that within the probabilities, your shift shall be accomplished within your next century – within your lifetimes, so to speak, your focuses, if you are choosing to be creating of what you term to be long focuses; but most probably, it shall be completed within the focuses of your children.

Much of the action of the shift shall be accomplished within your focus, and as you are beginning movement into this shift, it is important that you are aware; for although I express to you that you hold great ability within consciousness to be actualizing probabilities and [to be] helpful within this shift, many other individuals upon your planet are not lending energy yet to the action of this shift. Therefore, I express to you of probabilities which have been accepted within consciousness and within energy, those which have been prophesied, that you need be lending energy to in uncreating. You may not be lending energy to uncreating of probabilities if you hold no awareness, for your subjective and your objective awarenesses work within harmony. Therefore, you need not only be subjectively aware to be affecting, but you need be also objectively aware.

You hold tremendous ability, but you also restrict yourselves and limit yourselves tremendously. You focus very singularly and very small within the actions of your individual selves, and within the interaction of immediate personages surrounding you. You do not recognize that you hold great ability within consciousness and are affecting of more than that which is immediately surrounding you. Therefore, as you continue in your focusing upon your individual conflicts and your holding to your individual issues, you also are affecting of other individuals, other counterparts, and affecting their ability to be accepting also. As you are not accepting, they are not accepting.

I offer this to you, for you have been engaged within these small traumas for what I may term to be enough time! (Confused laughter) You may now realistically look to the action of the shift and the action of acceptance of self and of all others, and you may disengage your fighting and your tantrums within yourselves and be allowing for your own acceptance. This IS important!

CATHY: I have a question. Obviously, this includes acceptance of other people’s non-acceptance.

ELIAS: Quite! I have expressed to you, the point is not to be holding judgment of other individuals’ creation of their reality. The point is to be focusing upon self and accepting of self, and do not concern yourselves with other individuals and their creation of their reality. Be accepting.

CATHY: Within that, if you find yourself concentrating and not being able to accept someone else’s non-acceptance, then would distraction be a good thing to do?

ELIAS: Yes, Shynla.

CATHY: Okay! That’s where I’m headed! (Laughing)

ELIAS: As you concentrate upon these elements, you perpetuate them. As you concentrate upon your own conflict continuously, you perpetuate this. As you concentrate upon your non-acceptance of other individuals’ reality, you perpetuate this! Therefore, if you are not allowing yourself to approach a point of acceptance, you may be distracting yourself for a time period and allowing yourself to disengage from the conflict and the confusion, and then you may re-address to the issue and you may have offered yourself more information and a clearer understanding of the issues that you are dealing with.

CATHY: Michael has a question. She said she had a reality check about the acceptance wave. She said, “It hit me this morning and it was way big. We don’t have much time. How can this group of six to fifteen people prevent or alter these massive predictions/prophecies that are supposed to be happening in the next two to ten years?”

ELIAS: This be also why I stress this wave of acceptance, for as you are not accepting, you are also not moving. I have expressed to you from the onset of these sessions, this be the reason that you have asked. You have asked for helpfulness. You receive this helpfulness presently, and the action of the shift is the focal point of these discussions. It is what you have chosen as your direction for your attention and your movement. Therefore, it is important; but you prevent your own movement within this shift by limiting your own abilities and creativity, and not trusting of yourselves.

I have expressed to you previously that this expansion holds back merely in regard to the individuals which are focused within this group. Michael has held reins for much time period. I express to you presently, it is unnecessary any longer. Movement is important. How shall you be affecting of masses of individuals if you are not moving? You hold the ability to move en masse within a very small time framework. It is only dependent upon your acceptance and your willingness to be accomplishing what you have chosen to accomplish. I do not express to you in direction, “You must do this!” You have chosen. This be your choice. You may disengage from this choice at any moment, and you may not engage these discussions any longer. As I have stated, this is your choice. There is no judgment placed upon your choices, for they are your choices. But as you continue within this forum and you continue to be wishing of information, it is pointless to be offering you information if you are not incorporating the information and you are not moving in the direction that you have chosen within your attention.

TOM: So if we asked for guidelines pertaining to the acceptance of the belief systems, we could receive guidelines? I’m not saying me personally because I don’t think I need it. But we could, if we asked, receive a direction to help us accept our belief systems?

ELIAS: You have been offered directions. I do not express to any individual that they should be moving within this direction or that direction, for these are your choices. You may choose to not be moving. You may choose to not be engaging information. You may choose trauma, if you are so wishing. It is your choice.

You hold, once again, tremendous ability. You hold all of your answers within you. Therefore, you need not look to another essence, a god, a master, a guide, anything, for your information, for your direction. You hold this information within you. I have offered you much information to be helpful to you, but I continuously encourage you also to focus upon self. This is unfamiliar to you. You are accustomed to allowing others to give you your direction. You may give yourselves your direction! As you have allowed other individuals within experimentation and experience previously for millennium to be directing of your actions and your thought processes and your feelings and all of your existence, now you move to your shift, that you create consciously your reality, and that you direct yourself in acceptance of the greatness of yourself, and that there is no element greater than what you are.

DAVID: Is there a reason within the group say, why we don’t move as quickly as we think we want to? We talk about moving quickly, but then we just stagnate and we don’t attempt to go as quick as what we think. Is there a reason behind that within us, that we don’t move as quickly as what we ...

ELIAS: You have caught yourselves up within your own issues, and you have caught yourselves within your own attention of your own selves within your own issues and belief systems, and you are forgetting of your point.

CATHY: Okay, you’ve stated many times that people draw themselves to the information that speaks to them.

ELIAS: Quite.

CATHY: So people, religious people or whatever, that speaks to them. If we’re having this much conflict over dealing with our own belief systems and we’ve had information and been talking to you twice a week for two years, it’s really hard for me to think that someone who’s drawing themselves to the information that speaks to them that is totally different than the information that we live by, or attempt to live by, how can you ... how do you make the shift work?

ELIAS: You are continuing to be allowing your thought processes in very singular terms. It is unnecessary for you to alter other individuals’ belief systems. It is necessary for you to be accepting of you, therefore allowing yourself also to be accepting of other individuals. The point is not to be changing and eliminating belief systems. It is to be accepting.

CATHY: So within an acceptance of someone else’s religious belief systems, in consciousness they’re lending to the shift.

ELIAS: Yes. CATHY: Okay.

DAVID: So in effect, should we just take the bull by the horns and go for it? Not fear it, just go for it and see what happens?

ELIAS: What do you fear?

DAVID: I don’t know! I fear the flood, the wave being so massive it’ll just drown us, so to speak.

ELIAS: The wave IS massive. This shift is global. You shall choose either to move within it, or you shall experience trauma. It is your choice.

DENNIS: Being new to the group, I just want to get something clear in my head. What is the purpose of the shift?

ELIAS: You have chosen, within this dimension, a new experience in creativity. You have chosen, within what you term to be your history, certain actions and experiences for long time periods, in your terms. These have been purposeful for those experiences. You presently move away from your religious era, which has continued for quite some physical time period, into a new awareness in consciousness, to allow you an expanded creativity and allow you to utilize your abilities of essence within physical focus. You are expanding your reality to encompass more of essence and more of your own creative abilities.

DENNIS: In other words, the more that you have acceptance in what you do ... the more you accept, the more someone around you can accept.

ELIAS: You are affecting within consciousness. You are all connected. Therefore, the movement or the lack of movement that you create, the acceptance or the lack of acceptance, is affecting of the whole, so to speak. Therefore, as you choose to continue within non-acceptance, you also in your physical terms retard the movement within time framework of the wave which spreads globally. Therefore, if you are not accepting and you are holding to your lack of acceptance, you shall not be accomplishing in time, so to speak, and probabilities may be actualized. This be why I speak to you presently seriously, for the probabilities that have been projected within your prophecies may be inserted into this reality if you are not diverting them.

Think to yourselves in physical terms of an asteroid flaming toward your planet. You hold the instruments to deflect this and move its course away from your planet and its striking of your planet. But if you are not paying attention -- if you are occupying yourself, not watching and arguing with your neighbor – this asteroid shall strike your planet, for you shall not deflect it. This is a visualization. It is the same. The probabilities exist. They may be inserted into your dimension, and your prophecies may materialize. It is unnecessary, and you may be deflecting of these probabilities and they shall be actualized within another dimension. But as you are choosing to not insert these probabilities into this physical reality, you also must be aware and lend energy to the creation of them not being inserted. All probabilities exist. It is merely a question of what you choose to be actualizing within this physical reality within this dimension.

We shall break briefly, and then you may continue with your questioning.

BREAK 7:21 PM.
RESUME 7:40 PM. (Time was three seconds.)

ELIAS: Continuing. You may ask your questions.

BOB: I think I’m one of the major problems with acceptance. I’m not a good “accepter.” So I need like a trick, a shortcut maybe. (Laughter) To me, acceptance is almost an embracing of something. If you accept it, you embrace it. Everything’s cool with it. Is there a way to accept something, but not embrace it?

ELIAS: Yes.

BOB: Can you help me with that?

ELIAS: Allow yourself to not hold your attention to it.

BOB: Okay, so it’s just the mere act of saying, “Okay, I accept this. I don’t want to be part of it, but I accept it.”

ELIAS: It is unnecessary for you to be engaging belief systems or actions the same as other individuals, but you may be accepting that this be their reality. You need not be creating the same reality. Where be your individuality within this?

BOB: That’s a good question. I know it’s just real easy to work up anger towards certain people and their actions, or groups or whatever, and certainly out of belief systems you accept that this is a good thing, so to speak, that being against evil is like a cool thing. So you’re righteous if you’re against this or that or the other thing, and that’s an easy trap to fall into. You watch the six o’clock news, somebody gets shot in a drive-by, and it’s a little tough to accept that, to just say, “Oh well, that’s just gang activity.” And developing some sort of methodology to accept that, yet not condone it or whatever, is a tough action, at least for me.

ELIAS: Practice with the concept -- for it is not quite yet a reality – of the idea that you create your own reality. Therefore, if you create your own reality, so does every other individual create their own reality. There is no exception; and in the creating of your reality, there is no age limit.

BOB: It’s pretty tough to avoid judgment, though.

ELIAS: For this is familiar. You have been within your religious element for much of your time framework. You may also distract yourself with the thought process of your shift and the wonderment that you present yourself within the new movement of consciousness.

BOB: So whenever I get the feeling of going into one of these reactions to something, I just shift over to the shift!

ELIAS: Quite. This may be helpful.

BOB: And how is that different from somebody praying every time they have a problem with something?

ELIAS: It is not.

BOB: Great! So now I have to deal with that? Thanks! (Laughter) That’s pretty circular!

ELIAS: I have expressed to you that you all work within the framework of belief systems. You hold different belief systems, but you all function within the framework of belief systems.

BOB: Well, even this takes on the nature of a belief system.

ELIAS: It matters not. I do not express to you to be eliminating belief systems. You shall continue to function within the framework of belief systems which you accept. It is unnecessary to be eliminating belief systems. It is important to be accepting, therefore allowing a wider awareness of self and offering yourself the opportunity to expand your creativity and your abilities within consciousness objectively.

All of these feats that you wish to attain, that you wish to accomplish, you may accomplish as you are widening your awareness and allowing yourself more freedom within your objective awareness; but this is requiring of your shift.

BOB: Well, is it helpful to seek out the things that you normally have a problem with in order to confront them?

ELIAS: If you are choosing, and if you are prepared. You shall present yourself with issues that you choose to be dealing with, within the time framework that you are ready to be dealing with them. Therefore, why shall you seek out conflict?

BOB: Well, I was just checking! Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

DAVID: I have a friend of mine who threw out a question to me the other day which I thought I’d like to present to you. She visited this channeler that I went to see a year or so ago. I spoke to you of the essence of Mary. This essence of Mary, in her private session, offered her to read a book that was in our world, as she told her, of Emmet Fox and the Power of Constructive Thinking. This whole book is very powerful in the teachings of prayers, like “Our father who art in heaven ...” and the other prayers, and it basically was giving her information that was opposite to what information this essence was trying to get across. So she was confused that there are these two essences giving totally opposite information.

ELIAS: This be a perception.

DAVID: Well, what shall I tell her to help her out of her confusion? Because I didn’t know the answer.

ELIAS: Information is offered that within your perception may seem to be contradictory, although it may not be contradictory. This essence does not express to any individual that what they choose to practice is wrong. There is no wrong within the action of prayer. I have expressed previously that this may be, individually and en masse, a tool chosen to be focusing energy. Therefore, how be this wrong?

DAVID: But if we’re offering information on one hand, and on the other hand there’s this other information, and they read both, which one are they going to choose? They get confused about which is right and which is wrong, although we know there is no right or wrong!

ELIAS: Quite. They are merely different avenues. This be the point, to be encompassing all avenues.

DAVID: So again, the bottom line is, which one she would choose is what feels right for her. (Elias nods)

BOB: Also, something that you said before reminded me when Cathy was talking earlier, about how we come to this thing and we struggle with this every single week, and we listen to the information and we try to understand it, and we sometimes don’t think we do that well. And then there’s people who go to Catholic church and they do what they do. And so if we’re having as much trouble as we’re having, how are they to be affected? (To Cathy) Is that sort of what you were asking? It struck me that subjectively, they could be moving as much or more so than we are at any given point in time. We’re just struggling more on an objective level, whereas they’re not as confused by their objective, because their objective is just rolling along within their belief systems and they’re not busy worrying about it, and here we are just spinning around and trying to figure everything out instead of using more of what you’ve told us.

ELIAS: Quite.

BOB: Is that in the ball park?

ELIAS: Quite.

BOB: Okay.

DREW: But subjective and objective work together in harmony, so ...

BOB: In whose terms?

DREW: In Elias’ terms, if I’m not mistaken. So if their subjective is moving one way and their objective is not in alignment with that, is there a point at which they reconcile? Or how does that work, if in fact the two work together?

ELIAS: You shall be experiencing conflict if you are not within harmony. I have expressed that your concern for individuals within religious focuses is unnecessary. They are not incorporating conflict, and it is unnecessary to be altering their belief systems. This is not the point. Many individuals within religious focuses may be more accepting of your movement than you are of theirs.

VICKI: I’d like to follow through on David’s question, because he presented it to me and I was a little unclear on how to think about it myself. The issue for David and I really has nothing to do with religious belief systems per se, but rather trying to interact with an individual who is newly incorporating our information and is confused when receiving information that is, in words, directly opposite to the information that David is offering, and is recommended also by a dead guy, so to speak. I read the letter that was sent to David, and this person quoted passages out of this book which basically instruct the individual that if they focus on themselves, therein will lie their trouble, their disappointment, and their conflict. Whereas if they remove their focus from self and focus on God and give themselves to God and basically discount self, this will be where their happiness lies. Now, this person has read only a few transcripts, but enough to realize that this is pretty contradictory information, and the person is confused; not about religious belief systems per se, but about contradictory information that is both being given and/or recommended by ... dead guys.

ELIAS: This is not contradictory information!

VICKI: Well, it appears so to the person reading it, and my question is ...

ELIAS: (Interrupting loudly) This is a perception! It is not contradictory. I expressed to you this eve to stop focusing upon your objective conflict and your objective expressions in your temper tantrums and your holding to your conflicts! This being directly the same information. Be focusing on self as essence; they are different words only. They are the same concepts; this being why I express to you, it is unnecessary -- underline this word – to be changing other individuals’ belief systems or eliminating belief systems. It is the point to be accepting, for they are all the same. The words may be different, but the concepts are the same. I have expressed to you in explanation of “God” that this is all of consciousness, and is also you! Therefore, another essence may be expressing words that are familiar to the mass, and expressing “God” and “prayer,” but this is not necessarily contradictory. It is familiar wording.

VICKI: Well, I shall present your explanation to this individual, and it will be this individual’s choice whether it will make sense to them.

BOB: The book was written by a person, right?

DAVID: Yeah, Emmet Fox.

BOB: So if the essence recommended the book as something that might be helpful to this person in terms of a methodology that would work for them, she may have simply been saying this or that belief system would work for you right now ... just simply. But the book itself wasn’t any revelation. It was just the words of somebody who wrote it, so everything in it would not literally be taken as gospel, pardon the reference, but it would just be a bunch of stuff that somebody said that might be helpful to this person to function.

VICKI: Well, I agree, but that wasn’t the question. The question is about how to interact with other people because they’re coming and asking these questions within the context of reading these transcripts, and so within an effort to present information ...

BOB: I know, but you said that the quote within the book referred to God and not focusing on self, the implication being that the quote was from the essence who recommended the book, but it wasn’t. It was from the person who wrote the book.

VICKI: To the person reading, their question is ... well, I’ll talk about it after the session , okay?

BOB: That’s a jump in logic, is all I’m saying.

VICKI: I’ll talk to you after the session, because we’re taking up time here.

ELIAS: Also, this particular individual offers themselves presently the opportunity to be incorporating new terminology. Information has been offered within familiar terminology. You offer outwardly to this individual information, and this individual may be allowing themselves to be incorporating expanded thought processes, understanding that the concepts are not in conflict with each other. This also be an element of widening awareness. If you are not offered information, you shall not be widening awareness. (Pause)

DON: I’m confused! Going back to David’s question again, if it’s all a matter of perspective, if it’s all a matter of what we bring in from our experience, what we hear from you and from other essences, then how are we to know if we’re interpreting in anywhere near the right direction?

ELIAS: There is no right direction.

DON: How do I know that the message that you intend for me to understand is what I’m understanding?

ELIAS: For you shall take in, so to speak, what speaks to you. The point is to be focusing upon you; not following another individual, another new god, another new anything, but to be trusting you and evaluating what rings true to you, for you know what is true within you, and be accepting of this. It is unnecessary to be placing value judgment upon any belief systems or any individuals, for you shall draw the information to you which speaks to you, and information speaks to different individuals differently. You shall all arrive at the same mark. You shall merely choose different directions to reach this mark.

DON: So you’re saying the message is insignificant? It’s only the process that’s important?

ELIAS: The movement is important. The words are not important. The message that you receive, that you draw yourself to, is important for you for it speaks to you, and this aids your movement in a more efficient direction; but the words or the terminology is unimportant.

DENNIS: This shift is inevitable? It’s happening, no matter what? It’s going to happen. Is this correct? I mean, my question is, everyone will have to take their own acceptance of this shift. Some people, it will be easy; some people, it will be hard. But my question is, everyone will have to go through it in their own way?

ELIAS: Correct.

DENNIS: But the end result is, everyone will go through the shift?

ELIAS: Correct, within present probabilities.

DENNIS: Okay. (Pause)

ELIAS: Much to be incorporating this evening! I shall allow your interaction with each other, for you have much to be assimilating.

TOM: You’re going to stick around, aren’t you?

ELIAS: Be accepting! (Laughter)

I bid you all this evening a very affectionate and loving au revoir.

Elias departs at 8:06 PM.


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