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Thursday, July 18, 2002

<  Session 1135 (Private/Phone)  >


ďWorrying About the FutureĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Dawn (Awan).

Elias arrives at 10:55 AM. (Arrival time is 27 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

DAWN: Good afternoon. Hi, Elias!

ELIAS: Welcome!

DAWN: Thank you. Iíve got my small list here of questions I would like to ask. Could I please start with my essence family? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence family, Tumold.

DAWN: Tumold! I was completely wrong!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And your impression as to your alignment?

DAWN: Vold.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Would that be exactly the same for my husband, Mark? (Pause)

ELIAS: No. Sumari/Vold.

DAWN: I thought he was the Tumold! The other thing I would really like to know is my color tone, the essence color tone.

ELIAS: And your impression?

DAWN: Maybe gold or aqua, the blue-green. (Pause)

ELIAS: The aqua may be designated as your focus color, and your signature color is actually not gold but a peach color.

DAWN: Sounds nice! And my name, please, my essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Awan, A-W-A-N (uh WAHN).

DAWN: Awan, thatís not unlike my name Dawn Ė interesting. Can I ask Markís name, please?

ELIAS: Baruch, B-A-R-U-C-H (bah ROUK).

DAWN: Can I ask for my son please, too, Christopher?

ELIAS: Essence name, Zariir, Z-A-R-I-I-R (zuh AIR).

DAWN: Thatís cool, thanks. Can I ask for Christopherís essence family, please?

ELIAS: And your impression?

DAWN: Vold?

ELIAS: Belonging to, correct.

DAWN: Aligned with, Iím not sure.

ELIAS: Ilda.

DAWN: I was going to say that! (Laughs with Elias) Interesting! Iíd like to ask you, Elias, about some dreams that I have had.

ELIAS: Very well.

DAWN: The most recent one was, before I went to bed I actually asked for some sort of sign or contact from essence. I didnít have anything happen until the following evening when, while I was dreaming, I was aware that I was meeting someone and that I was very impressed with who I was meeting. It was like WOW! You know? But I donít have any visual imagery of this. I just know that I was meeting someone and I couldnít actually come up with who it was. Even though I knew them, I couldnít translate or remember who it was. I was wondering if you would be able to tell me who it was.


DAWN: It was me?


DAWN: I suspected that, but it was so amazing that I discounted that.

ELIAS: This has been your offering in response to your request to yourself in offering a recognition of yourself in much more of a vastness than you are familiar with viewing yourself.

Now; in this, it is also not unusual that you do not offer yourself an objective memory of images. For in a presentment of yourself as essence, individuals frequently do not generate an actual image in association with this type of action, for images actually present a type of construction which generates familiar associations and generates a limitation and another expression of separation.

Therefore, generally speaking, individuals offer themselves an objective recall of this type of meeting, so to speak, and allow themselves to generate a feeling in association with that action but not necessarily an objective recalled imagery.

DAWN: At the end of that dream I actually did have a visual, where I saw Mark and me lying in bed and in between us I saw sort of like an oval shaped light, like a sparkling sort of energy thing. I just wondered what the significance of it was between Mark and me.

ELIAS: What you have allowed yourself in this imagery is not your meeting of you but allowing yourself to present a visualization of the energy expression that you generate between you in association with each other.

DAWN: Thatís really nice. Just going on from there then, have Mark and I shared, or should I say, are we sharing many focuses together?


DAWN: I thought so. Could you give me a figure please? (Pause)

ELIAS: Sixty-one.

DAWN: (Laughs) Well, weíre not tired of each other yet! (Elias laughs)

Another dream that I had, it was almost like a video clip. I felt as though I was sitting on a horse by the edge of a sea or lake. There was a tide. There were a few people gathered round, and we were looking down. There were two people buried in the sand, and I got the impression that we were waiting for the tide to come in. I wondered if this was another focus.

ELIAS: Yes and no. Yes, it is another focus, but it is also imagery that you have presented to yourself in association with what you may term to be uncovering other focuses in general.

DAWN: Oh, thatís a relief!

ELIAS: Therefore, there are two facets of this imagery that you have presented to yourself. The imagery of the water and the individual upon the shore is another focus. The imagery of the individuals beneath the water is symbology that you have presented to yourself in recognition that other focuses are not actually hidden from you, and you do view them beneath this water. The water is symbology of a layer of separation that in your terms requires peeling away to clearly view the other focuses that you engage.

DAWN: So I wasnít waiting for those people to drown, which is what I was worried about.

ELIAS: No. (Chuckles)

DAWN: I also have a memory of being a small girl and holding the hand of a man, a tall man wearing like a big greatcoat, like during the war, and we are standing on a quayside as though weíre waiting for a boat or ship to come in. I wondered if this was another focus of mine.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DAWN: Would this be during the second World War?

ELIAS: First World War.

DAWN: I will have to explore that one more. Another dream I had Ė this one only very recently Ė I was walking through a city or a town that was near the sea. The buildings were white, white walls, and one of the walls of the building was a very strong aqua color, very bright. As I walked towards the edge of the water, there were lots of people walking around and I could see the water. I could see the side of the water as though I was looking into a fish tank and I could see plants growing up through the water. I have absolutely no idea what this imagery means.

ELIAS: This is future imagery. This is a presentment to yourself of one area of what we identify now as your dream City. Many individuals allow themselves to be connecting to or projecting to this city as you are collectively creating it now, but its actual physical manifestation is a future expression.

DAWN: So itís still being created?

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Very interesting! It was a really nice place. (Both laugh) I enjoyed being there.

Another thing that happened to me that I couldnít explain was I went to one of the museums in London and I was looking at some exhibits there. I was quite focused on what I was looking at. I had the impression of someone standing very close behind me and I turned, without turning round, I turned to look sideways and I had the impression of a very tall shadow, but when I turned around completely there was nothing there. But it was a very strong feeling of someone being very close behind me. (Elias chuckles) Would you be able to explain that for me?

ELIAS: An introduction from myself.

DAWN: Really?!


DAWN: Oh, because that was going to be one of my other questions. Have we actually interacted directly?


DAWN: On more than one occasion?

ELIAS: Your awareness of an actual energy expression objectively was in that moment. But yes, I have been directly interactive with you subjectively previously.

DAWN: But am I aware of that?

ELIAS: Objectively no.

DAWN: Have we ever interacted in a focus together?


DAWN: Mark would like to know if heís actually interacted in a focus with you.


DAWN: Now, do I have to work this out for myself or can I ask you about that focus?

ELIAS: (Laughs) I shall offer to you that we three have been interactive with each other in a focus in Saudi Arabia within a time framework of your 1100s, which you may investigate individually or together. You may also investigate another focus in which you both participate again, in physical location what you identify to be Greenland, time framework early 1700s.

DAWN: More recent.


DAWN: Very interesting! Iíll do my best. I suspect that Mark might have more success because he seems to be able to focus in on these things with less problem than I do.

ELIAS: Ho ho! And this is a discounting of yourself!

DAWN: (Laughs) I am very good at that! (Elias laughs) I think that I have practiced that as a fine art.

ELIAS: Ah! And have become quite accomplished.

DAWN: I think so, yes! (Both laugh)

Iíd like to ask about my son, Christopher, who two weeks ago drew to himself an experience of being burnt on his face, ear and neck. He had been messing around previously to this with matches and burning things. On this occasion, his friend was pouring water over a fire, an open fire, and pouring petrol, and the fire went up the petrol into the container, which the friend shook and shook the petrol, the burning petrol, over my sonís face. (1)

After this happened he actually started, sort of I think, having access to another focus, where he had two brothers and a grandmother who were burnt or got burned in a similar sort of situation, and he believed it was his fault that the accident happened. Can you tell me if this was another focus of his?

ELIAS: Yes. DAWN: And is that influencing of what happened to him two weeks ago?

ELIAS: Partially, yes.

DAWN: I know itís always a choice and that he chose to experience this, but itís almost like he ... I donít know, I donít think he... Well, he did, he wanted to be burnt or he wouldnít have been burnt, but I donít understand why he chose to experience that.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, although in actuality there is no karma, beliefs are very strong and some beliefs associated with personal responsibility and guilt may be quite affecting. In this, as I have stated, although there is no actual cosmic expression of karma, this is not to say that individuals do not generate choices, in a manner of speaking, to inflict this type of expression upon themselves in association with their beliefs.

There is no cosmic energy that shall express a type of energy that moves in generating certain scenarios, that if you are generating a particular action that same action or one similar to it shall also be exacted upon you. But this type of association in relation to individualsí beliefs is quite strongly expressed, and many times individuals shall create these types of manifestations in association with their beliefs and in association with personal responsibility. Individuals may generate guilt and thusly create an action that they view to be appeasing of that guilt by generating similar experiences in association with themselves for actions that they have participated in in association with other individuals and for which they express personal responsibility. (2)

Now; this may be manifest in many different manners. An individual may express a bleed-through of another focus in which they may have participated in a collision with a vehicle in association with other individuals and perhaps the other individuals chose to be disengaging in that vehicle collision, and the one survivor, so to speak, may incorporate personal responsibility for the other individualsí disengagement or injury. In allowing bleed-through of that experience, the individual in this focus may experience an aversion or even a fear of engaging vehicles in general and may not objectively recognize the reason, or the individual may choose to generate a similar action and create injury to themselves.

DAWN: Which is what Christopher did?

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: So hopefully he will now feel that he has paid for his part in that and...

ELIAS: In association with his beliefs. In actuality, this is quite unnecessary, for it is quite strongly associated with beliefs but not necessarily truth. But it is a method to, in a manner of speaking, appease these beliefs.

DAWN: It just seems so, I donít know, dramatic.

ELIAS: Many individuals generate many expressions of dramatic or extreme proportion, for this offers them an avenue to genuinely pay attention. Individuals generate complacency in status quo, and therefore generate much more dramatic expressions and manifestations to be offering themselves information and also to be an expression of their exploration. You are engaging a physical reality, and therefore you are also experimenting with creating different types of physical manifestations in association with your beliefs. Therefore in actuality it matters not, for it is all an exploration of physical manifestations.

DAWN: In the present time framework, I feel as though I am facing one of my fears or beliefs relating to money or finances, because I seem to be creating a situation where although I have everything I need, I worry that I wonít always have everything I need. I feel threatened, and even though I know this is unreasonable I donít seem to be getting very far with this. Am I creating a situation where I will have to confront this and work through my fear? Because thatís my feeling.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

Now; it may be quite helpful to yourself to be aware of what you are actually generating in the moment and moving your attention to the now, recognizing the moments in which you generate this fear in association with future and your anticipation of future expressions, but allowing yourself to turn your attention to the now, recognizing that what you create in association with the future is being expressed now.

Therefore, if you are moving your attention to the now and affirming to yourself that you are not generating this type of expression now, you acknowledge yourself and therefore you also affect not generating that expression in association with the future. But if you are not turning your attention to the now, you concentrate upon the fear in association with the future, and therefore you generate an expression of energy that creates the potential and continues to supply energy to that potential to be creating the manifestation of the fear futurely. Are you understanding?

DAWN: I am, yes, and I actually know that and I do understand that because I have read so many of the transcripts and other people have asked similar questions. I understand exactly what youíre saying. Even when I am giving energy to this fear, I know that that is not the right thing to be doing. I am finding it quite challenging to change and not to worry about the future, but I do understand that I shouldnít be doing that and that it is possible creating what I fear in the future.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, fear is a powerful expression that individuals generate in this physical reality and does present a tremendous challenge in association with paying attention to yourself, familiarizing yourself with you and holding your attention in the now. But it also, in many situations with many individuals, provides an avenue which actually moves your attention to you.

Therefore, the expression of fear in this time framework in association with the movement of this shift does offer you an opportunity to objectively recognize what you are generating and offers you the opportunity to objectively move your attention and therefore alter your perception. Therefore, it is being incorporated by many individuals, yourself also, in this time framework as a type of tool to allow yourself to manipulate your attention objectively intentionally and to experience this movement of attention intentionally, and therefore generate a greater understanding of yourself and how you create your reality.

DAWN: Very interesting. Iíll have to think that one over. (Elias laughs) I think that was very helpful.

The other thing that I appear to be creating in the present time framework is a lot of movement in the place where I live. I seem to be constantly moving around even to other countries. I am not quite sure what the reason is behind that, other than maybe I enjoy the constant change, but I feel a bit tired with it and itís still happening. So maybe I just got into the habit of doing it and itís time to stop.

ELIAS: And what is your want?

DAWN: I donít think I mind particularly where I am; I feel itís time to just settle somewhere now and not to be constantly moving around.

ELIAS: And therefore why shall you not offer yourself permission to generate that?

DAWN: I suppose because you always feel that it isnít just you. Although you do create your reality, itís also in cooperation with other people, members of the family.

ELIAS: But this is also a choice. This is the significance of genuinely listening to yourself and offering yourself the freedom to express and create what you want. But prior to creating what you want, in many instances it is significant that you allow yourself the KNOWING of what you want.

DAWN: (Laughs) But thatís the problem, isnít it? I donít always feel as if I do know what I want!

ELIAS: And this is the significance of paying attention to yourself and familiarizing yourself in intimacy with you, allowing yourself to listen to your communications, to be aware of what you are generating through your communications, and paying attention to what you actually do, what you actually choose. For in paying attention and listening and noticing your communications and your choices, you offer yourself much more clarity in thought, and thought is your translation mechanism. Thought is what translates all of your communications.

But the challenge many times for many individuals lies more so in the translation of what you do than what you are communicating. For many individuals do allow themselves to move their attention and incorporate listening to their communications to themselves. The challenge is paying attention to what you actually do and recognizing that that is a choice, for this is a tremendously unfamiliar expression.

At times you may be noticing what you do, but many times you are not paying attention to what you are actually doing in the now, for you are projecting your attention. There are automatic associations that you may be doing or generating a particular action in a given moment but that you are not choosing that, you are merely responding to the choices or what you perceive to be the choices of other individuals, which is quite incorrect, for any expression that you generate within your reality you have chosen. But this is the aspect of physical reality that most individuals are unfamiliar with, and this is the significance of practicing and allowing yourself to notice and to pay attention to both of these aspects of yourself.

DAWN: Can I ask you, please, my orientation?

ELIAS: And shall you offer to myself your impression of your orientation and your partner and your son?

DAWN: I thought that I might be soft. (Elias grins)

ELIAS: And the other two?

DAWN: I thought common for both of them.

ELIAS: You are correct.

DAWN: Also I have a daughter (laughs), who I seem to have forgotten. Can I ask for her too, named Chloe?

ELIAS: Essence name, Shilo, S-H-I-L-O (SHY low). (Pause) And your impression as to essence families?

DAWN: I thought Milumet.

ELIAS: Alignment.

DAWN: Zuli?

ELIAS: Belonging to.

DAWN: So that would be Milumet/Zuli or...?

ELIAS: Reverse. Orientation common also.

DAWN: Would I be correct in believing that I was in my final focus?


DAWN: That actually is a big help! And also Mark? Now, I donít actually feel that Mark is in a final focus, but he feels he is. (Pause)

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking not the designated final focus, but the designated final focus occupies this time framework.

DAWN: That explains it. Would Christopher, my son, would he be in his final focus?


DAWN: The reason I ask is he seems to get slightly depressed sometimes and he actually talks about disengaging.

ELIAS: This is associated with this particular focus and the influence of his beliefs and also an expression of his perception of worth and discounting of himself. In a manner of speaking, a lack of allowance of himself to be recognizing his abilities in this focus and his choices.

DAWN: So itís something he has to sort out for himself?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, or not. I am merely offering you explanation in association with what is influencing of this behavior. It is in actuality his choice what he generates in continuation of these types of experience or not. In what you may view as the big picture, it actually matters not.

I am understanding of your concern, for this also is associated with your beliefs in relation to your roles as parent and child and your expression of personal responsibility in association with him, but in actual terms of essence and manifestations these are merely choices of experiences. One focus is no more important or significant than any other focus of attention. In the choice to be manifest in this physical dimension, all individuals generate many focuses of attention to be experiencing many different types of expressions. Those that you deem to be negative are no less significant than those that you deem to be positive.

DAWN: I understand. Also he seems to be able to... Let me explain. Some time ago last year I was standing in the kitchen and he was in the doorway, and he said that he could see a woman standing beside me, either showing me something or explaining something to me. This would be what I would consider was a ghost. I couldnít see anything, but he could quite clearly see this individual. They could see that he could see them, at which point they disappeared. He also seems to be able to access subjectively with ease things that I find more difficult.

ELIAS: This is not necessarily an expression of accessing subjectively. It is an allowance that he is generating, which is not in actuality unusual for younger individuals in this time framework, for they are manifesting more in association with the movement of this shift in consciousness; therefore, they are objectively aware of their abilities to be expressing less separation. What you define or label as psychic abilities are in actuality merely associated with your inner senses, which all of you incorporate. (3) But younger individuals allow themselves a clearer objective recognition of their abilities in association with their inner senses, for they are manifesting, as I have stated, in association with this shift in consciousness in a more objective manner. Therefore, this type of expression of viewing objectively nonphysical expressions is more easily accessed, in a manner of speaking, and is not an unusual expression.

This, as I have stated, is an action associated with this shift in consciousness, thinning these veils of separation, recognizing that in actuality separation is a perception which is generated in association with beliefs and in actuality there is no separation. Therefore, a focus of attention that you define as being dead is not actually dead but is merely expressed in a different area of consciousness and is merely separated from you through perception. But in thinning these veils of separation, you are offering yourselves greater freedom in mobility in what you allow yourself to generate through perception, even manifesting individuals that you perceive to be dead or ghosts. (Both laugh)

DAWN: Thatís really good! So he could manifest that ghost, or was it actually there?

ELIAS: Both! There is a direct interaction of energy. But the actual manifestation is generated through his perception, as is any manifestation of any individual within each of your realities, for all that is generated within your individual realities is a manifestation of your perception.

DAWN: Wow. Well, I think I am out of time now, Elias, and I canít believe I got through all of these questions.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And shall I be congratulating of you?

DAWN: (Laughs) Definitely, and of yourself! Thank you very, very much. It has been absolutely amazing, and please feel free to interact at any time in the future!

ELIAS: Very well, and so I shall! And you are quite welcome my friend. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be interactive with you.

DAWN: Great, I look forward to that. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: And perhaps reminding you to be playful.

DAWN: Okay, I need to lighten up!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well, my friend. I offer to you my support and my expression of affection. To you this day in lovingness, au revoir.

DAWN: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 11:54 AM.


(1) Dawnís note: Christopher was age 14 at that time.

(2) Originally expressed as: ďIndividuals may generate guilt and thusly create an action that they view to be appeasing of that guilt in generating similar experiences in association with themselves to what they express personal responsibility for actions that they have participated in in association with other individuals.Ē

(3) Originally expressed as: ďWhat you define or label as psychic abilities, which in actuality are merely associated with your inner senses, which all of you incorporate...Ē

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