Elias Transcripts – Session 1053, Monday, April 08, 2002

Actually, I was wondering, the other day – I think it was Monday morning – before I woke up, I was having this dream. I had been asking about my intent as Sumari/Vold and how to be lending energy to the shift, which I think I am doing anyway, but I guess I wanted to be a little more clear about that.

I was having this dream and it was so direct. It’s like I saw this website with all the transcripts, where I go and do a search on something, on a subject, and I kept seeing a list of these transcript numbers scrolling by on the web page. They were in the 600s. I knew that they were in the 600s, and I thought they were like in the 670s or 690s, something like that but I wasn’t sure, but I remembered that they were definitely in the 600s. And this dream seemed to be repeating itself over and over and over! Until as soon as I woke up I’m saying, “All right, all right, all right! I’ll look it up!”

So I typed in “Vold,” and I was looking only in the 600s because that’s what the dream showed me. And there it was, #671, “Belonging to the Family of Vold,” and this was an individual who is belonging to Vold and aligned with Sumari. I’m the opposite, Sumari/Vold. But the parallel was amazing! I mean parallels with her, the lack of motivation, the periodic depression, the black and white thinking and on and on and on, and she was asking about her intent also. I was wondering if that was you who was directing me in this dream or was that myself offering it to myself or...?

ELIAS: Both – a prompting from myself, but a responsiveness within yourself and an allowance within yourself to be generating the imagery to direct yourself. But I may express to you, I have offered an expression of energy to be prompting of you to allow yourself to interact with this information as an offering of helpfulness.

SHAHMA: Well, I sure appreciate it! (Elias laughs) And interesting! I thought that it was so great that the dream was so direct rather than this translation into symbolic things. It wasn’t symbolic at all. It was very direct.

Oh, that was great! But there are some differences. I was reading and it was really interesting, this person. I was thinking, “Gosh! Are we the same person or what?!” (Laughs) There were some differences. I think that I have a tendency to feel more of this kind of revolutionary thing going on with me. That may be because I’m aligned to Vold rather than belonging to Vold.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

SHAHMA: I have this kind of, it’s almost like there’s this kind of double-whammy effect with the status-quo disrupter thing with me, because I... Well, I had a partner, my previous partner, and a lot of times when we were with friends he would shush me all the time because I would come out with these things, not meaning to necessarily be agitating, but I would have a different idea of something. I would just blurt these things out and he was always like, “Shhhhhh!” (Laughs with Elias) I think that that’s what I... (Big sigh) It’s sometimes challenging, this status-quo disrupter thing.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

SHAHMA: But then on the other hand what I’m really interested in is how I could be helpful to other people in this shift, and I don’t see... Let’s see, I’m not sure how to say this. I think the revolutionary aspect is really important, but I don’t want to put myself in opposition to people and their beliefs and I don’t want to be judgmental; but I do think that I can be helpful sometimes when I’m talking to people, sharing with them the idea of looking at things from a different angle or in a wider perspective. I’m interested in hearing what you have to say specifically about my intent. (1)

ELIAS: Offer your impression of identification of your intent.

SHAHMA: My impression is that I can be helpful with people in the area of acceptance of self, which I’m constantly dealing with myself. But even though I struggle with that idea myself, I really do feel that that’s one area where I can be helpful, I guess because I’ve got a lot of experience in the area of discounting myself.

Also for long periods of time I would be like studying different religions and certain belief systems, Zen and Hindu and all these different Eastern religions and others, and the various metaphysical slants on things these days, and kind of finding the core truths in them and seeing the value and the truth in each of those. I’m not sure what I do with it, what my intent is in that, except perhaps just to be accepting and seeing the core truths in all of them and expressing that to other individuals – or just being accepting. I’m not quite sure where to go with it from there but...

ELIAS: Be remembering that your intent in any individual focus is a theme, so to speak, that continues throughout the entirety of the focus, from the onset of your manifestation to the moment that you choose to disengage, and is a general direction that you choose to be exploring within one focus. You choose many, many different more specific directions of experiences within that general expression or direction of your movement, and this direction or theme is an expression of intention of exploration. This is the reason that it is identified by this term of “intent,” for it is your intent within one focus of a particular direction of exploration of self in that particular manifestation.

Now; in association with your family and alignment, which do interplay with your individual intent, I may express to you that if you are allowing yourself to view and assess the entirety of your focus in this manifestation, you may discover that your intent, in a manner of speaking, is to be exploring through the whirlwinds to reach the eye.

In this, you also present yourself with a metaphor, which is also quite accurate in association with your individual intent in this focus. You choose many different types of experiences that follow this general direction. You have throughout your focus generated a type of movement and energy which may be likened to moving yourself through many hurricanes and tornados to reach the eye of each of them, which also moves you in an expression of exploring through all of the outside expressions to reach the calm within yourself. THIS is an identification of your intent in this focus.

Now; as to how you shall move in an expression of offering energy to the movement of this shift in consciousness, you are correct, you are already expressing that. But I shall also direct to your expression of wanting to be offering helpfulness to other individuals and how you may be expressing that outwardly. In that, you have expressed to myself in this discussion that your motivation is to be helpful in interaction with other individuals in widening their awareness.

Now; are you listening to what you have expressed? (Shahma laughs) It is not your responsibility to widen other individual’s awarenesses.

SHAHMA: Right.

ELIAS: It IS your responsibility to turn your attention to yourself and to generate an expression of essence. This is the action of the straight little sapling, and that is the most helpful expression of energy that you may offer to any individual within your world. For in paying attention to yourself and in generating an acceptance of self, you automatically generate a natural by-product of expressing that acceptance outwardly in relation to every other expression of consciousness within your dimension.

If your motivation is to be expressing helpfulness to other individuals and not paying attention to you, what you are actually expressing, my friend, is a discounting of them and a discounting of yourself, for you are expressing that other individuals are not creating their reality well enough, which reflects back to you; for individuals generate expressions outwardly as a reflection of what they are generating inwardly.

If you are expressing to yourself a need, so to speak, or a push to be expressing helpfulness to other individuals rather than paying attention to yourself, this is significant to move your attention to. For, what you are generating inwardly is a communication to yourself that this is what you want within your expression.

Now; examining your intent, you are correct: in turning your attention to yourself, you express a tremendous potential to be offering energy to other individuals as an example. For in your movement throughout your focus – you are correct – you have generated many expressions of the torrents in exploring through different movements to reach that eye. Therefore, you have expressed many experiences in which you have become quite familiar with the action of discounting yourself.

This becomes a tremendous benefit. For contrary to automatic associations that individuals generate in relation to discounting one’s self and expressing that that is a negative action, in actuality some individuals incorporate those experiences as a tremendous opportunity and benefit within themselves, as do you.

For in allowing yourself to pay attention to these expressions of discounting yourself, you also offer yourself an objective understanding of movement around that expression, and offer yourself an objective recognition of choices that some other individuals may not objectively view for they are not paying attention to this action of discounting themselves. In your familiarity with these torrents, you have also offered yourself considerable information in how to maneuver and manipulate your energy through them. Are you understanding?

SHAHMA: Yeah, that’s what has occurred to me. Many times the experiences that I’ve created for myself are beneficial just in that way, in having had that experience of discounting myself in many different areas. You said it better than I did, so I’m not gonna try and... (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha! And discounting of self number 9012!

SHAHMA: Right, yeah! You did it better than I did – no, okay! (Laughs with Elias) Yesterday I was going to do one of those days where I’m just counting up all the times that I’m discounting of myself, and I ended up being extremely busy doing this completely different thing.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, at times this may be quite genuinely a very informative exercise and actually may allow not merely an awareness of the often-ness of the expression of discounting of yourself, but in paying attention to that expression in an exercise such as allowing yourself to note each time that you generate that type of expression, you also create an automatic expression of energy that actually generates a different expression, in which you divert energy to not generate some expressions of conflict.

SHAHMA: Okay, I’m not...

ELIAS: For you are concentrating your attention upon you, and therefore although you may be expressing to yourself that discounting of yourself is negative and you are attempting to not be expressing this discounting of self, your attention is focused upon you.

Therefore, in that action you automatically are diverting your energy expressions and shall allow yourself to avoid many different OUTWARD expressions of conflict in relation to other individuals, for your attention is not being projected to the other individual and you are not concerning yourself with the expressions or choices or behaviors of other individuals. You are concerning yourself in paying attention to YOU, and therefore that which you view as a negative expression within you actually creates what you assess to be a positive expression outwardly.

SHAHMA: By allowing myself to divert the energy of, and avoid the expression of conflict?

ELIAS: Correct.

SHAHMA: That makes sense.

ELIAS: Which actually generates a turning of your perception, and therefore you create a very different expression in relation to other individuals and you do not generate conflict.

In this, as you allow yourself to examine this action, you may also be altering your perception in how you define this expression of discounting of yourself, for you may begin to perceive this action as not negative and as a beneficial action. Ha ha! Quite a twist!

SHAHMA: Interesting! Actually, the word that comes to mind is that’s quite revolutionary! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Quite! Ha ha ha!

SHAHMA: Oh, thank you!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You are quite welcome, my friend.

SHAHMA: Wow. Well, the other thing that occurred to me was, thinking about this revolutionary energy, there is a politician, a congressman, Dennis Kucinich I believe his name is, and he has been expressing nuclear disarmament stuff and ... let’s see, what else has he been talking about? Well, anyway, he uses phrases like how we are all choosing this thing, and the fact that we’re evolving and that we don’t need to keep this nuclear arms thing going. Anyway, there are lots of people who are getting together and wanting him to be running for president.

First off, I think he’s Vold! That would be my thought because he does seem quite revolutionary, and he reminds me a lot of things that were going on back in the 60s and 70s, back when I was a flower-child. And I’m not a political activist. I don’t go out and talk about it much and I don’t join groups that are being active, but I get very excited when I read this stuff because it’s in the area that I guess I am wanting things to be shifting toward, and I get excited. I almost feel like a cheerleader inside! (Laughs)

ELIAS: I am understanding.

SHAHMA: I guess I’m wondering how to view what’s going on with me when that happens. Like I said, I don’t want to put myself in opposition to anyone, but on the other hand I get very excited when I hear these things about people moving towards less violence.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

Now; I shall express to you, as you are aware, in recent time framework there has been a tremendous expression of energy surges throughout your physical dimension, and these energy surges are being expressed by you all collectively quite purposefully, to be moving your expressions and your attention to the action of allowance of yourselves in a FREE expression. This is significant, for throughout your world individuals generate rules and conditions in which they shall allow themselves the freedom to be expressing themselves in preference.

Now; the purpose, so to speak, of these energy surges in this time framework is to be drawing this subject matter to your objective awarenesses: the allowance of free expression of self in preference without the restriction of rules and conditions, without the association of appropriate or not appropriate, and without the expression of approval or disapproval.

Now; in this, each individual presents this expression to themselves in their own unique manner. The manner in which you are presenting this opportunity to yourself is to be generating this excitement in relation to another individual and their presentment of their philosophy, of which you are in agreement with.

In this, quite simply what you are challenging yourself with is offering yourself the opportunity to freely express yourself in your preferences and not concerning yourself with the preferences of other individuals, trusting your expression, and that regardless of what you generate within your choices, you shall not be in opposition to this shift in consciousness.

Do not concern yourself with other individuals, but move your attention to you and offer yourself permission to express your preferences freely – which is quite a challenge, in actuality. There are very strongly expressed mass beliefs concerning appropriate and non-appropriate...

SHAHMA: Definitely.

ELIAS: ...approval and non-approval.

SHAHMA: Yeah. (Big sigh)

ELIAS: Which, once again, in your exploration of your intent, you have offered yourself tremendous familiarity with these mass expressions and beliefs of appropriate and inappropriate, and approval and non-approval. For as you have expressed to myself this morning, in offering your expression outwardly your partner shushes you. Ha ha ha! Therefore, although once again you offer yourself the opportunity to view a discounting of yourself, you also generate what you assess to be a positive expression outwardly, for you do offer yourself the freedom of your expression.

SHAHMA: As an interesting case in point or something, the other day I was outside having a smoke, actually, with a couple of friends, and they were talking about the tragedy of September 11 and the grief aspect of the families left behind. And I said, “Yeah, but if I was to die with a whole group of people like in a plane, if the plane went down and suddenly there we were on the other side, I would be looking around saying, ‘Wow! Why did we all go at once?’” (Laughs) And they just looked at me kind of strangely. I didn’t feel any conflict in what I was saying, but... So I’m not always offering things in opposition, but as just a different way of looking at it.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

SHAHMA: Because I did feel a lot of sad feelings and everything with the whole thing that happened. I think my sadness... And that was another thing that I was going to ask about. It seems like when these emotions come up, it’s like I’m feeling what the grieving person that is left behind is feeling, and a lot of emotion comes up within me.

I don’t feel that dying, per se, is... Well, there is no death. I don’t feel a whole lot of challenge in that area, but there’s emotions that come up with me, and I’m wondering if this is an empathic thing. But it happens so often, even when I’m watching a movie, even sometimes a commercial on TV! I seem to automatically, if someone seems to be grieving, these emotions just kind of well up within me, and...

In fact I’ve had a little trouble in the past with interacting with someone that is going through a lot of sadness or grief because my automatic re... No, let’s not call it a reaction. The emotion that comes up within me, which I know it’s communicating something to me, is that I want to cry along with them. (2) It’s like I’m feeling the same thing! This happens, like I said, even when I’m watching TV or... It’s like there are all these triggers.

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about that you say that the emotions are not a reaction, that they are communicating something, and I’m wondering what, in these instances, is the communication.

ELIAS: The communication is an identification of your association with the belief of separation and the strength of that influence in association with your perception. Separation is an illusion, and it is created by your objective perception. This expression of sadness, this signal of feeling sadness within you, is the signal to allow yourself to listen to the communication concerning separation.

Now; let me express to you, there is an action that is being generated in you with your empathic sense, but you engage that empathic sense in relation to other individual’s sadness to be EMPHASIZING the communication to yourself, and this is the reason that you continue to generate this experience and this signal repeatedly with yourself.

You generate this signal quite strongly at times, which I am aware that at times the strength of this signal influences another signal to your physical body consciousness which moves you to weeping, which is a release of energy and tension. Your physical body consciousness creates an automatic action to be releasing energy, for the expression of tension becomes intense.

In this, throughout your focus, my friend, in your exploration and movement towards the “eye,” you have expressed a strong association with this belief of separation, and in that strong association, you have been attempting to move towards the objective recognition in genuineness of the lack of separation.

SHAHMA: Yeah. (Weeping) That’s what I feel.

ELIAS: And this is such a strongly expressed desire within you that the communication which identifies the alignment of separation is generated quite strongly.

Let me express to you, my friend, merely allowing yourself to NOTICE the communication and acknowledge it may be quite affecting. For each time you acknowledge this communication to yourself – and you need not DO with it; you need not attempt to CHANGE the expression – but merely in the acknowledgment of it, you dissipate some of that energy which reinforces that expression of separation.

SHAHMA: That makes a lot of sense. I think I have done that sometimes.

ELIAS: Yes.

SHAHMA: I definitely... Okay.

ELIAS: Yes, you have.

SHAHMA: When I begin to even think about the lack of separation, the oneness, or like once I remember talking to my youngest daughter about the consciousness within everything and that we’re all consciousness and everything is alive, and I was going on and I just felt this upwelling of incredible – wooo! – feeling within me. It’s almost like this kind of... It’s like a yearning, but it’s almost like I’m going toward a lover.

ELIAS: Yes! And THAT is the “eye.”

SHAHMA: Oh, wow! (Emotionally) Oh, thank you! This is really, really helpful.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

SHAHMA: I wanted to ask a couple of quick questions about... Oh, and one other thing. I’ve been having a lot of problems with my – maybe it’s not a problem, but it seems like it sometimes – with the short-term memory for a few years, and periodically it will get worse and then it will get better. But those are all, I know, they’re like worse and better – well, those are judgments; I realize that. But I feel like I may be shifting in and out. I mean, that’s almost the way it feels to me sometimes, that I’m going from objective to subjective, back and forth, and I have this sort of out-of-focus feeling a lot of times.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and I may express to you, partially you are correct, and I may also express to you that this is actually quite commonly experienced by individuals within your physical dimension in association with actual widening of your awareness. For you are allowing an expansion of your awareness; therefore you are incorporating much more of an objective expression of awareness, and therefore in that expansion, you are not focusing your attention in as narrow of an expression as you may have been previously. Therefore, that which you identify as short-term memory may be interrupted for your attention is moving in many directions.

SHAHMA: I wanted to ask you how long, how many years have I been in transition?

ELIAS: And your impression?

SHAHMA: My impression is, well, I could say 36 years. That seems like a long time. There’s about three different timeframes that I... It could be like 18 years or it could be 15 years. I’m not sure. I almost feel like from the time that I... I don’t know if it was 36 years or not; I may have the wrong figure there. But from the time when I suicided and didn’t die and stuff, going from when I was 14, because there was a difference afterward.

ELIAS: I am understanding, although this was not the onset of transition. Your impression of 18 years is correct, and identification of the length of time, so to speak, is quite relative. Ha ha!

SHAHMA: Let’s see. I wanted to ask you about a tone or a chord, a musical note, something that I could play on the piano, for my essence, and/or a color?

ELIAS: Musical note, C, which also moves with the theme of the “eye.” (Laughs)

SHAHMA: Oh, that’s interesting!

ELIAS: And your impression of color?

SHAHMA: You want my impression?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHAHMA: I’m quite drawn toward a color of green that is like a chartreuse.

ELIAS: Correct, which also is an expression of the calm.

SHAHMA: It’s also an expression of the calm?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHAHMA: Well, that’s interesting. Am I thought focused or emotionally focused? I would say emotionally, although I use my thinking, I think, a lot.

ELIAS: Emotional focus. Let me express to you, individuals that are emotionally focused think – ha ha ha! – and individuals that are thought focused do communicate with emotion. Ha ha!

SHAHMA: Right, yes, I’m aware of that. I guess it would be probably what I trust the most?

ELIAS: It is the manner in which you process information first, so to speak.

SHAHMA: I was going to ask you about all my kids and their families, but I think we’re running out of time here and I don’t want to go over the time period.

ELIAS: Very well.

SHAHMA: Very well? (3)

ELIAS: I may express to you, I suppose you may be incorporating another discussion with myself. Ha ha ha!

SHAHMA: Yeah, I think so, because there’s... (Laughs)

ELIAS: And in this we shall generate pleasure together! Ha ha ha!

SHAHMA: Well, it’s been so wonderful talking to you, and I really appreciate the encouragement and the energy that you’ve been offering me.

ELIAS: And I shall continue to do so, my friend.

SHAHMA: Thank you. Thank you so much.

ELIAS: I express to you, as always, tremendous affection and anticipate our next meeting. To you this morning in friendship, au revoir.

SHAHMA: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:06 PM.

Endnotes:

(1) Shahma’s note: As soon as I launched into this I just knew I’d stuck my foot in it “so to speak” because of my phrasing.

(2) Shahma’s note: Just saying this brought tears!

(3) Shahma’s note: I never want to end these sessions!

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