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Thursday, May 15, 2003

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ďPost-Disengagement AnticipationĒ

ďSeth and EliasĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Jim (Bevan).

Elias arrives at 1:02 PM. (Arrival time is 16 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

JIM: Good afternoon, Elias!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And how shall we proceed this day?

JIM: Well, I would like to have my essence name, to begin with.

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Bevan, B-E-V-A-N (BEV uhn).

JIM: I think I belong to Sumafi, aligned Gramada, orientation common and thought focused, and I think Iím in transition. How am I doiní?

ELIAS: Correct to all. (Laughs)

JIM: By golly, I hit it, didnít I? (Elias laughs) I donít think Iím a final focus.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: Iím doing pretty well, arenít I? (Elias laughs) How many focuses do I have in this dimension?

ELIAS: In this physical dimension, 1426.

JIM: Good night! (Elias laughs) Now Iíd like to ask some information for a friend of mine by the name of Randy D., and I think you could pick that up, right?

ELIAS: Very well.

JIM: Iíd like his essence name.

ELIAS: Essence name, Beauregarde Ė traditional spelling.

JIM: H-I-L-D-E-G-A-R-D-E, correct?


JIM: Oh, Beauregarde!


JIM: I think heís a Sumafi. He takes to your information like a duck to water.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are correct.

JIM: I donít know his alignment.

ELIAS: Alignment in this focus, Zuli.

JIM: I had a suspicion. I donít think heís common. Well, maybe he is, but I was kind of thinking intermediate.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: Heís thought focused?


JIM: And how many focuses does he have in this dimension?

ELIAS: Numbering of focuses in this dimension, 987.

JIM: Very good, thank you. How about his wifeís essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Anne, A-N-N-E.

JIM: Well, well! And she belongs to what?

ELIAS: And your impression?

JIM: I donít know her at all. I have no idea.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Ilda.

JIM: Focus type?

ELIAS: Emotional.

JIM: How many focuses does she have in this dimension?

ELIAS: Nine hundred forty-two.

JIM: And how many does she share with Randy?

ELIAS: Three hundred eight.

JIM: Oh, boy, heís gonna like that! (Elias laughs) Do I share any focuses with Randy other than this one?


JIM: Could I have a number on that?

ELIAS: Fifty-nine.

JIM: Thank you very much. Now, there is a girl in a picture that I think is a focus of mine, contemporary. I think that you can pick that up, canít you? Is she a focus of mine?


JIM: She is a focus of mine! I was right! (Elias laughs) Iím sorry, that kind of shook me up. Is she still living?


JIM: In California?


JIM: Sheís still working in that industry?

ELIAS: Occasionally.

JIM: Is she objectively aware of me?


JIM: No? I didnít think she was. I tried to project love to her. Was she aware of that at all?

ELIAS: Not from the source, but of the energy, yes.

JIM: Yes, I thought maybe. Did I experience a response from that?


JIM: Iím curious about the pictures. Iíve been looking at a picture and that is her imagery, right? I donít know how to put it.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Yes, I am understanding what you are expressing.

JIM: We are energy and itís... It has to be that. Letís go on from that. Is Michael Tilson Thomas a focus of mine?

ELIAS: You are the observing essence.

JIM: Am I an observing essence of Lois McMaster Bujold?


JIM: Do I have a focus whoís a cellist in the 1700s or 1800s in Great Britain?

ELIAS: 1800s, yes.

JIM: That kind of accounts for my obbligato preferences?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Somewhat of an influence. Ha ha ha!

JIM: Do I have a focus who is a locomotive engineer in the 1800s or 1900s?

ELIAS: 1800s, correct.

JIM: I thought maybe, because that railroadís gone. The Palatine Bridge, right?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: Now, am I a counterpart of the artist who spent a summer painting a picture off our land here at the cove?


JIM: I had a very fun situation the other day with a supermarket supervisor, and I wondered if Iíve interacted with her in any other focuses.


JIM: Well, that was delightful. (Elias laughs)

Is my intent directly related to sexuality?


JIM: Frustration, dissatisfaction, is that... I donít know.

ELIAS: An exploration of different aspects of sexuality and the different expressions and experience that may be associated with it, not exclusively in association with dissatisfaction.

JIM: Thatís what I kind of thought. Was the incident that I experienced when I was three years old, was that kind of a turning point?

ELIAS: A turning point in what capacity?

JIM: Well, to me it seemed like that made some impressions and started beliefs that were to turn me in a certain direction, that dissatisfaction Ė or fascination, I should say.

ELIAS: In that direction, yes.

JIM: I had a dream of a person holding an infant, and I experienced a feeling of love that Iíve never had run into before. I was wondering if that was interaction with my essence, direct.

ELIAS: In one capacity, yes. In another capacity, this is a viewing of another focus in which you are the mother.

JIM: Ah! Interesting. Looking back I can see that, yes.

I have a dream image of what looked like or what I translated as a locomotive, steam locomotive with engines and running gear, lying on its side. I think that might have been a focus in another dimension, my translation of it. Is that correct?


JIM: Now, the stories that Iím writing, is that creating in my intent direction?

ELIAS: Yes. What is the nature of your concern?

JIM: Well, thereís a male bias there, obviously. (Elias chuckles) Does my essence favor the female gender in any way?

ELIAS: Yes. You do incorporate more female focuses than male focuses.

JIM: Ah ha! Very good. Iím hitting pretty good here! I didnít realize I was that far along! (Elias laughs)

I have this constant Muzak, I call it, in my head. Itís music running all the time. Right now itís, or was Ė when Iím paying attention to you Iím not paying attention to it Ė it was Rachmaninovís piano concerto. This goes on constantly. What is that?

ELIAS: This is partially bleed-through, but it also is associated with an essence preference associated with the appreciation of music within this physical dimension.

JIM: Ah ha! Oh, this is so good! (Elias laughs)

Ringing in my ears Ė I was reading in Seth the other day about feeling tones. Is there any relation there?

ELIAS: I may express to you, within this time framework and in association with this shift, many, many individuals experience this particular manifestation. For the most part I have expressed that most individuals in this time framework that experience that are allowing themselves to be somewhat connecting to focuses in other dimensions.

JIM: Ah, okay, then. So thatís what that is.


JIM: What about the toothbrush music I get from my lower front teeth? (Elias laughs) It sounds like sort of a shaken tambourine.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And what is your impression as to this?

JIM: Well, I understand thereís an energy center back in the neck behind that. I was wondering if thereís some relation to that.

ELIAS: In association with communication, yes.

JIM: So itís an odd way to get that.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) An interesting manifestation to move your attention and to signal you to be paying attention to your communications.

JIM: Right, that makes sense. Iíve run out of questions too soon here! I donít know what Iím gonna do. Letís see, where do we go from here? (Elias laughs) Let me think a bit. (Pause)

Oh! You know that Iíve been very much wanting to disengage. Iím sure you realize that. I think Iím getting fairly close to that at my age. One of the reasons that I havenít asked for a session before was because I figured all that information would be available to me. (Elias laughs) Is that correct? Am I right in that or not?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon your movement. For this is a common belief, a common expressed belief that upon the choice of disengagement the individual shall incorporate all of the information that they wish to incorporate and all shall be available to them and you shall be enlightened, so to speak.

Now; I may express to you, eventually, dependent upon your choice of how you choose to move once you have disengaged and dependent upon the action of completion of transition, you may choose to be within an area of consciousness in which all information is available to you, but that is dependent upon your choices. As you disengage, initially there is a potential that you may continue temporarily to be generating an objective expression which continues to generate perception, and therefore there is a continuation of physical imagery.

Now; in already engaging transition within physical focus, if you are engaging that type of action once you have chosen to disengage, the experience of that would be quite temporary and in your terms quite short, for subsequently you move into more of a fullness of the action of transition, shedding that objective awareness and also shedding the beliefs that are associated with this physical dimension.

Subsequent to that action, once it is completed, it is your choice as to where you choose to move your attention. You may choose to be moving your attention to a physical reality once again within a different physical dimension, or you may choose to be moving your attention into nonphysical areas of consciousness and engaging any number of types of actions or interactions. But as I have stated, these are all your choices.

JIM: So I would have the information available at that time to make sensible choices?


JIM: Right now I donít have that information.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I may express to you, it may not be a matter of generating ďsensibleĒ choices, for that may be associated with your perception in this dimension, but merely recognition that there are many choices available to you and it is merely a matter of what you prefer.

JIM: Iíve tried to visualize post-disengagement and what I get is a black field in my awareness there Ė not really with a body, just an awareness with just blackness and a few sparks here and there. Whatís that?

ELIAS: That is an interpretation, which is quite understandable. For without the association of physical imagery, there is an automatic translation that nothing is blackness. In actuality, blackness is something, and nonphysical areas of consciousness incorporate no physical imagery. Therefore, it is not blackness or even space, so to speak, but it is what you may term to be a nothingness Ė although it is quite real and present Ė but it is not a thing.

JIM: I understand. Now, we were talking about immediately following disengagement, before we shed beliefs and this sort of thing, there is the possibility... In other words, if I wanted at that time to connect with this young lady whoís my focus at this time and review and look through her life as well as mine, would that be possible?


JIM: Okay, great! Iím looking forward to that. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: Now; I may express to you, within that type of state, so to speak, you are not actually directly interactive with any other individual within this physical dimension. Although you do incorporate the ability to project energy to individuals within this physical dimension, many times they are unaware of where that projection of energy is from, objectively. But this is not to say that they do not experience it and that they do not translate it in a manner that is comprehensible to them in that time framework.

But as to the objective imagery that you generate in this temporary state, so to speak, it is all imagery that you create yourself. Eventually you begin to realize that you are creating all of the imagery and the scenarios that are occurring, for eventually it becomes obvious that you are not directly interactive with any other individual in relation to this physical dimension.

I may also express to you that once recognizing that this is what you are generating, an individual may choose to continue with that objective awareness, recognizing that they incorporate the ability to be quite playful in that particular interim state and that they may generate any type of objective imagery that they are so choosing. Some individuals choose to continue temporarily in this state to be amusing themselves in generating many parlor tricks that they did not allow themselves to engage in actual physical focus.

JIM: That will probably be something I will do! (Elias laughs) I donít know. Iíve run out of questions, Elias. I donít know what else to ask about.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Perhaps you may choose to merely be engaging conversation.

JIM: Iím re-reading Seth books and Iíve just gone through one that the first time I read it I was quite impressed. This time Iíve gone through and I see conflicts with what youíve said. I favor what youíve said over what heís got there. I donít understand that, why it was good the first time and not the second.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, first of all, within the time framework in which you initially engaged that information from that essence, it offered you an avenue in which to expand your awareness in a different manner.

Now; you have been generating that action for quite some time. In creating that action and offering yourself more and more information, you have also moved into a preference of assimilating information with less distortion and less interpretation.

Now; this is not to say that the information that was offered by that essence is not valid, for it is. At times, I may express to you, individuals may misinterpret what has been offered in information by that essence in incorporating the information in absolute terms. Therefore, they may not necessarily incorporate an objective understanding of the coloration of that information. It is not that it is invalid or that it is wrong, for it is not; but that essence incorporated a different essence family, a different intent [Sumari], and therefore chose to be expressive in a very different manner than myself [Sumafi].

I choose to be interactive directly with individuals within your physical dimension. I also choose intentionally to be offering information which does not necessarily reinforce your existing expressed beliefs. Not that your beliefs are bad or that they are enemies or that they should be eliminated, but they are quite familiar to you.

In the purpose of interacting with each of you in association with this shift in consciousness, the point is to allow yourselves to expand your perception and to recognize your beliefs Ė not merely to recognize your beliefs, but to recognize that you also incorporate choice and how to move your attention. If you are offering yourself information that merely consistently reinforces what you incorporate already as expressed beliefs, you do not necessarily challenge yourself to widen your awareness. This is what you are incorporating in assimilating the information that I am offering.

For the most part, it is quite similar to other information which is offered by other essences and has been offered by other essences. I am merely incorporating the information in a different manner and incorporating a different language, so to speak. Those individuals that seek to be assimilating information in the least expression of distortion and are genuinely seeking information concerning how they may be creating their reality and how they may be intentionally manipulating their energy in not merely a beneficial manner but a more efficient and less conflicting manner, those individuals draw themselves, such as yourself, to the information that I am expressing. Are you understanding?

JIM: That sounds very Sumafi to me. (Elias laughs) One of the things that crosses my mind once in a while is why should I bother working with the beliefs and trying to widen my horizon if Iím going to trip over the threshold into disengagement fairly shortly? Itíll all happen then.

ELIAS: Ah! This is an interesting question. But it may be quite purposeful for you to be continuing to address to your beliefs, for what you accomplish within physical focus allows you more freedom once you disengage, for you widen your awareness. Therefore, once you choose to be disengaging, you also incorporate a wider awareness objectively in that state.

Therefore, perhaps as you move into that choice of disengagement and if you are generating a time framework in which you are experimenting with the objective awareness and creating physical imagery, the time framework, so to speak, in which you become aware that you are manipulating all of the imagery is much quicker.

JIM: Yes, I can see that.

ELIAS: This also facilitates the action of nonphysical transition. For the more that you incorporate the action of recognizing and accepting beliefs within physical focus, the less challenging or what you may term to be time consuming it may be to be shedding those beliefs.

For once a belief is accepted, that is not to say that it becomes permanently accepted, for it does not; for you accept beliefs in the moment. But once you have generated the action of accepting beliefs in any moment, you become much more aware of the experience of that action and it becomes easier.

Therefore, once you engage nonphysical transition, as it is not an action of accepting beliefs any longer but shedding those beliefs, the beliefs that you have allowed yourself to be accepting of in different moments within physical focus become beliefs that are easily shed, for there is no matter of examination of them and addressing to them.

JIM: That makes sense. (Elias chuckles) I donít know if Iíve accepted beliefs or not. I donít know how to word it, but I think Iíve made some progress.

ELIAS: I may express to you that in certain moments you have accepted some beliefs and continue to do so. Remember, accepting a belief is not an action that is incorporated once and thusly becomes solid, absolute and permanent, for that negates choice. Therefore, it is a matter of accepting a belief in the moment.

You shall recognize your expression of acceptance of a belief as you present it to yourself in any manner, perhaps through an engagement of interaction with another individual, and as you present the belief to yourself, you are not reactive to it. It genuinely does not incorporate any judgment within you and it matters not. You do not react to it in a manner of judgment in either good or bad.

JIM: I think Iím making progress in that direction. I donít feel very judgmental. In fact, I judge myself for not judging, I guess.

ELIAS: (Laughs) That may appear to be quite ludicrous! Would this not be the point, to be moving into an expression of non-judgment? It appears to be quite humorous to be judging yourself for not judging! Ha ha ha!

JIM: Humor is the way to go, Iíve found. The more humor I can inject, the better.

ELIAS: This does offer you much more of an expression of playfulness and fun! Ha ha ha!

JIM: It does.

ELIAS: Which I am tremendously advocating. Ha ha!

JIM: Yes, I know. Itís one of the enjoyable things about your sessions. (Laughs) I think Iíve run out of everything here, Elias, and I thank you very, very much.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You are quite welcome, my friend. And if you are so choosing, I may extend my invitation to you and express to you to allow yourself to be free to interact with myself at any time.

JIM: Thank you.

ELIAS: I offer my tremendous appreciation to you, my friend. And I shall be expressing my energy in playfulness with you! (Chuckles)

JIM: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. To you, my dear friend, in great affection, au revoir.

JIM: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:42 PM.

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