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Sunday, October 05, 1997

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“Weird Group Energy”

Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki, (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Cathy (Shynla), Norm (Stephen), Reta (Dehl), Gail (William), Bobbi (Jale), Sue (Catherine), and visiting from San Diego, Vivien (Miriam).

Elias arrives at 6:38 PM. (Time was fifteen seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening. (Smiling) We shall begin with your game, and I shall open for questions this evening.

CATHY: For Elizabeth: Tumold, vegetables, sweet potato.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

CATHY: For myself: Milumet, time frameworks, past/past.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: For Mary: Milumet, poets, Maya Angelou.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: For Margot: Tumold, occupations, mortician.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: For Cath: Milumet, authors, Monty Roberts.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For Jo: Ilda, fairy tales, The Emperor’s New Clothes.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For Paul: Zuli, gods, Narcissus. (Pause)

ELIAS: Less probable.

VICKI: Okay, also for Paul: Milumet, quotes, “The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.”

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For myself: Milumet, inventions, answering machine.

ELIAS: (Grinning) Acceptable.

RON: Sumafi, time frameworks, present/present.

ELIAS: (Grinning) Acceptable.

BOBBI: Gramada, gemstones, rhodonite.

ELIAS: Acceptable. (Pause, and then to Norm) Stephen! (Laughter)

NORM: What?? (Laughing)

ELIAS: You are here and now challenged to be entering our game at our next session!

NORM: Fair enough ... fair enough!

ELIAS: You have been idle long enough! (Laughter)

NORM: I agree.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall open to your questioning. I may initiate a question: How goes your experimentation? (Directed to Norm)

NORM: Beautifully. I do think that the design of the experiment is coming along extremely well, and the only thing that I’m concerned about is the timing between this dimension and parallel dimensions. I’m trying to get a dream vision, I suppose, of parallel activities. Now, could I make the connection that what we are doing here is duplicated? For example, this forum is duplicated many, many times in other dimensions with all alternatives ... with all probabilities being expressed?

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: So when I am, for example, doing that particular experiment, all probabilities of the methodology ... methodology! ... of the development of this experiment would be also duplicated, would also be produced in other probable worlds or other probable dimensions?

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: For example, in the timing of this, when I close one slit ... and I want to do it with fermions because I want to show the non-conservation of mass-charged momentum, and so on and so forth ...

ELIAS: Our new Einstein! (Grinning)

NORM: Oh, yeah! (Laughing) But it will change a lot of physics if this is really true. It can be shown to be true repeatedly?

ELIAS: Quite.

NORM: Quite! Okay, the timing of the electron going through one of the slits ... I have a method of closing off the slit with voltage. So then, it would transfer into a parallel dimension. But now, if simultaneously in that parallel dimension, this entire duplicate, including me in that parallel dimension, was simultaneously doing it over there, it could come back over here and negate all of the interesting results! Now, is that possible?


NORM: Now, how do I stop that from occurring? (Laughing)

ELIAS: By recognizing that the parallel dimensions are not enacting exactly in the same manner as are you.

NORM: Ah, so I get to then select how they act? Can I ...

ELIAS: You may be affecting.

NORM: Aha! That is going to be most clever then! Depending upon the probabilities and how I select these, this will depend upon how they in turn will affect this reality?

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: I want to think about that ... I want to think about that! I also have a question in regard to ... I was talking to a geophysicist last night, and when we were discussing one thing, one of his statements really stood out, and I’m wondering if I have intuitive information from that statement. The statement was that the first load of spherical vibration of this earth is the mode of the heartbeat or of the pulsing, and I felt that this would be the way that it does pulse. Do I have intuitive correctness in that statement? In other words, the earth, which is an oblate spheroid, it expands and contracts?

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: It DOES do that?? (Norm is very excited!) Ah, yes!

RETA: Well actually, in talking to this young man, we found also that there are instrumentations all over the world that could measure this if you could direct them or pay them to watch it at a particular time. They’ve never done that kind of “look” because they would have been ...

NORM: What he’s saying is that the data is ... what I’m seeing is that if the data is appropriately collected, all you have to do is interpret it correctly. (Elias nods) Thank you! (Laughing)

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

RETA: One of the other questions you had ... wasn’t it about the timing and sending the proton back out of the other dimension?

NORM: No, I just asked him about that.

RETA: Is that what you said??

VIVIEN: I’m with you, Reta! (Laughter)

CATHY: I have a question for Linda. She would like to know if the voice in her head is all Elias, or if some of it is her?

ELIAS: I express to this individual that the element of herself is the arguing element! This essence has been in communication and what you may term to be contact for helpfulness, but has also received argumentativeness in this helpfulness!

VICKI: I have a question for Cath; two, actually. First, she would like to know what her essence name is.

ELIAS: (Accessing) Baile. B-A-I-L-E.

VICKI: Her other question has to do with the challenge that you presented her to be discovering the subdivision of the Milumet family that she is aligned with.

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: She had a word pop into her head of Sri Gelda, and is wondering if that’s in any way connected to your challenge.

ELIAS: (Grinning) Connected to the challenge, but connected to a different family. This would be a subdivision of the Gramada family. Therefore, you may express, “You are moving in a most correct direction!”

RETA: I have a dream I’d like to ask you about. Last night, I woke up about four times. I go to bed saying that I’m going to remember my dreams, which I haven’t done in most of my years, and last night I woke up about four times and I had the same imagery, and by the time I’d done it four times, I thought that maybe I would understand it, but I didn’t. I was annoyed that I had woke up. I shouldn’t have been annoyed because I’m sure it was telling me something. It was three-and-a-half pages of typed data, and I tried to read it, and I could only see that in the title there was one word, “what,” and maybe down a line was “which.” I couldn’t really read it, but it seemed to me that every time I woke up, I was waiting for the last page of information so I could finish this and get through with it. I think I got the last page of information the last time I woke up, and I said, “Now, I have to remember this!” But the only thing I could remember was a hundred and eight thousand. That’s all I could remember. Was that just because I was tired, or is that a dream?

ELIAS: You are presenting yourself with imagery suggestive of your wishing for answers in methodology to be steering you in what you view to be the right direction, and feeling frustrated at not accomplishing this. As I have stated, there are no methods, but even within your dream state you are seeking these methods and information suggestive of these methods, which remains frustrating to you.

RETA: Can you even imagine what the hundred and eight thousand ... is that a hundred and eight thousand times? Can you imagine?

VICKI: A hundred and eight thousand belief systems?

ELIAS: Methods! (Much laughter)

RETA: Okay, thank you! (Elias laughs)

BOBBI: Is there a subdivision called Gramalda of the Gramada family?


BOBBI: Would I be associated with that subdivision?


BOBBI: Would I be aligned with the Gramada family?


BOBBI: Yes? Essence family of Sumafi?


BOBBI: Thank you.

ELIAS: But another individual close to you – offspring – holds alignment with this subdivision that you have connected to.

BOBBI: Oh, really! Then I’ll have to think about that. I’ve been trying to figure out what they were. I didn’t get that at all.

SUE: Am I also of the essence family Sumafi?

ELIAS: Correct.

SUE: Can you tell me what my alignment is?

ELIAS: Express to me! (Grinning)

SUE: Lately, I was thinking Tumold, but ...

ELIAS: Try again!

SUE: The only other one I could think of was Sumari, but ...

ELIAS: Try again! (Laughter)

SUE: How many do we have left? Milumet?

ELIAS: Try again! (Laughter)

SUE: Vold? (Elias is cracking up)

ELIAS: You are moving closer! (We’re all cracking up!)

SUE: Gramada?

ELIAS: We shall be moving through the entire color spectrum!

SUE: Shall I give up at this point?

ELIAS: Clue; yellow.

SUE: I haven’t learned that yet! Can somebody tell me what yellow is? (Somebody says “Vold”)

VICKI: She already said that!

SUE: I said Vold!

ELIAS: Although this is a clue; subdivision.

SUE: Oh, a subdivision. Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: Connect intuitively and allow a flow for your impressions, and you may be finding this subdivision. Trust your impressions!

SUE: I’ll try!

ELIAS: (Staring at Norm) This be the point of our game also!

CATHY: Speaking of games, Mary would like to know if when she put the ad in the magazine, if that was an impulse?

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: Well then, I would like to know if when I ran out just before the cast was introduced at work, if that was an impulse?

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: Oh! Cool! (Laughter) So ...

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Shynla moves to the impulse game!

CATHY: So does that mean you’re going to tell us what you do in conference now? (We all crack up)

ELIAS: (Laughing) Eventually! You are so very confident with your impulses presently, are you not?

CATHY: Well, I recognized it! If I would have done that two years ago, it would have freaked me out, I can tell you that! (Laughter)

ELIAS; Very good! (Chuckling) You are widening.

CATHY: (To Vivien) I was way-wide today, huh?

VIVIEN: Oh, really! (Laughter) That’s a question I would like to ask. (Elias is chuckling) We attempted with Cathy, today and yesterday, a rapid induction with hypnosis, and she wouldn’t go! She was very uncooperative! I would like to know and she would like to know, why didn’t it work? It’s not true to say it didn’t work. For an instant it did, but she brought herself right back out of it very quickly. And we think we know what you’re going to say, but surprise us!

CATHY: I know the answer!

ELIAS: (Grinning) Therefore, I need not be answering! What be the answer, Shynla?

CATHY: Trust in self ... Elias!

ELIAS: Very good!

VIVIEN: But she did go for an instant, did she not?

ELIAS: Initially.

VIVIEN: Yeah. For a brief moment in time there, you did it.

CATHY: Pretty brief!

VIVIEN: So take that as encouragement! (Elias chuckles)

CATHY: Okay!

ELIAS: Be realizing, Shynla, that this also enters the areas of issues that you hold in not only how you view yourself, but how you perceive others view you.

CATHY: I knew that!

ELIAS: You ARE adequate and worthy, no less than any other individual.

CATHY: Okay ... (using her “I don’t want to talk about it” tone of voice, and we all crack up)

ELIAS: Tremendous trust in Elias also! Expressing, “I believe you not!” (Chuckling)

GAIL: I have a question. For a while, I’ve been trying to connect visually with you, and I’m having difficulty doing it, and I’m not sure why I’m so afraid to view. I was looking at Mylo today, trying to connect with him, and I saw a little bit of a shift, but I pulled out of it. I don’t know why I was afraid.

ELIAS: Objectively, you look to view an image of another human being. Subjectively, you wish to view the essence of Elias, which may not be translated into a form that you would be recognizing of. Therefore, this may be triggering of fearfulness, for in this you also open yourself to view essence, and in this action you allow yourself a recognition of what you are also, and the vastness of this. Therefore, it becomes frightening.

GAIL: I accept what you’re saying, but I have this really strong desire. Is this going to continue until I succeed?

ELIAS: Do not be trying so very hard!

GAIL: Okay. Gotcha!

ELIAS: Relax your focus, and you shall be accomplishing ... not immediately, but you shall be accomplishing.

GAIL: Okay, I’ll try to relax. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

VICKI: I have a question. In the process of communication with a man named Bill, he happened to mention to me recently that he considers the name of his oversoul to be William; his definition of oversoul being basically the same terminology we use for essence. I was curious because I thought about Gail and had some impressions that there was some sort of a connection there, but I don’t know what. Are Gail and this individual focuses of the same essence?

ELIAS: No; similar tone. Within the translation into your objective language, the spelling of this word would be altered, therefore designating a slight alteration in tone; but they are very close in tone.

VICKI: What does that indicate, that they are very close in tone, or does it indicate anything?

ELIAS: Merely certain similarities within essence and an affinity for very similar tones, which at times, as I have stated – but not always – may translate objectively also into your language as sounding similar, although many tones may be very closely aligned and translate within your language very differently and hold no similarities within words. (Pause)

VICKI: Okay.

ELIAS: We shall break, and you may continue with your questioning.

BREAK 7:07 PM.
RESUME 7:27 PM. (Time was five seconds.)

ELIAS: Continuing.

VIVIEN: I’d like to ask a question. This afternoon, I facilitated Lawrence in a TFE, and she went to a place where she found herself to be a being of light, amoebic, changing shape. There was a dark black sky and what she described as tree-like forms, but more like stalactites which came up in that kind of form, like a conical form, but very, very high. She was wondering, and I was wondering too, if that has anything to do with the experiences that she’s been having recently with the spinning. But then we fast-forwarded her to what I was expecting to be a future moment of that experience, but then she found herself spinning in a sort of starry sky and really didn’t know what she was doing there. She was kind of just floating around and spinning. And then we fast-forwarded again to another place, and immediately she came right out of it -- I mean sat up like a rocket and opened her eyes and obviously didn’t want to be in that place. I’m wondering if you can give us any information about what that was all about, and if there was a fear in that?

ELIAS: Quite!

VIVIEN: Yeah! Another impression she had was that it was possibly this focus that she came to. Is that a correct impression?

ELIAS: (To Vic, quite humorously) How goes the meetings with the extraterrestrials? (Much laughter)

VICKI: We’ve been in conference!

ELIAS: Ah, conference! (To Cathy, grinning) Be asking Lawrence of this conference situation!

CATHY: Okay!

ELIAS: (To Vic) The spinning element is that of which I have expressed to you, that you are already attempting, which is a movement interdimensionally. The reason that you pull back is that you allow yourself a closer approach within this state to be moving into this action of this spinning -- moving interdimensionally – and holding a little clearer recognition of this than merely feeling a spinning sensation, but also moving and holding recognition of elements within consciousness, that you might be visualizing in this movement what you may view in this movement if allowing yourself to enter into this area, but only briefly allowing yourself to glimpse a beginning of this; glimpsing another dimension, but not the dimension that you are seeking, but attempting to be connecting with this action that you have been engaging and beginning movement in this area; but also, within a recognition of a beginning movement in this interdimensional motion and the availability of crossing through the veil, there is an immediate pulling. You hold great reluctance, although you also hold great desire.

Be acknowledging of your accomplishment, and as I have stated to you previously, do not be pushing so very hard with yourself. You are moving into very unfamiliar territory with this action, although you shall be accomplishing, as I have stated to you from the onset; and now you approach closer.

VIVIEN: Elias, if I would have had the presence of mind before taking her forward to give her the suggestion that she was safe and that she would not be harmed by moving forward, would that have helped?

ELIAS: No. This is a very difficult area. This is a movement interdimensionally. Therefore, it is requiring of actual projection THROUGH what you term to be your space. Therefore, the action is more involved than merely viewing another focus.

VIVIEN: Just more experiencing it ... what we would think of as a direct experience of it?

ELIAS: This be not the entire problem, in your terms, but the actual projection THROUGH space interdimensionally. The action of this movement is also creating of blocks, for this action is not readily accomplished as of this present now within this particular dimension. This would be the same action as any one of you choosing within this present now to be projecting yourself THROUGH consciousness, THROUGH space, into another actual dimension ...

VIVIEN: Kind of overwhelming.

ELIAS: ... and being you within another dimension, to which you do not fit.

VIVIEN: So, a scary experience for us.

ELIAS: Correct; also quite unfamiliar. I express to you that within the action of this shift, you shall be accomplishing these elements as easily as moving from one room to another room; but presently, you hold many reservations and belief systems that confine you within this particular dimension. Lawrence is attempting to move outside of these belief systems and actually project through space into another dimension. Many individuals upon your planet project themselves to another location within this dimension upon your planet.

VIVIEN: What we consider an out-of-body.

ELIAS: Correct. They do not project themselves to another planet, even within your own dimension and solar system. This is projecting, in your terms, much farther, for this would be a penetration of dimensional veils.

VIVIEN: So basically, she was totally disoriented, to the point of, “I’m not going there. I have to come back.” (Elias nods)

NORM: Clarification; the projection is strictly subjective, not her objective body?

ELIAS: Not the physical expression, but the objective awareness projects also.

NORM: And why can’t she make that fit? Or could she make that fit?

ELIAS: Your objective awareness is “fitted” to THIS dimension and physical expression.

NORM: I understand. And that would not fit in any other dimension?

ELIAS: Not in the dimensions that Lawrence chooses to be projecting to.

VIVIEN: (To Vic, laughing) You’re weird!

NORM: Alright. Could she be creative and modify the functions so that it works?

ELIAS: Eventually, yes; but as I have stated to you previously, you may be projecting into another dimension within the action of this shift, but this action would be temporary, for you do NOT fit within other realities.

VIVIEN: Now, if she had continued, what would she have experienced?

ELIAS: This be what the investigation is! (Laughter)

VICKI: So then Ron’s crystalline experience that he had and this viewing that I had today, those are other locations in this dimension? Is that correct?


VICKI: Okay, what’s ...

ELIAS: You are misinterpreting.

VICKI: Okay ...

ELIAS: There are some physical dimensions that you may project to temporarily and you may adjust yourself instantaneously to these other physical dimensions, but hold within them only temporarily. There are other physical dimensions that are completely foreign and removed from this physical dimension, holding no elements of similarity, therefore holding no recognizable shapes or forms or thicknesses or any elements that you objectively recognize presently. In this, these dimensions are so very unfamiliar to you that you do not hold presently an objective awareness of how to acclimate to them instantaneously. If you are projecting to another dimension that holds similar forms that you may recognize such as this crystalline dimension, you objectively recognize within your creations of THIS dimension a similar form, which holds different consciousness, but it is recognizable to you. You may project to another dimension that holds forms that you objectively may interpret as a form similar to a tree or a fish, and you may acclimate temporarily instantaneously to this form, for you hold some recognition and awareness of this form, therefore allowing yourself to merge with that consciousness, for it is not so very unfamiliar to you.

In this, what you have accomplished is moving outside of this dimension, merging with another more closely aligned with this dimension but different, and then attempted to move into your spinning element, which would be projecting you THROUGH space and THROUGH the dimensional veils to be accomplishing moving into the dimension that you seek, which is completely different from any known elements within this dimension. There is no recognizable element within the dimension that you seek that may be associated with this physical dimension. Is this clearer?

VICKI: Yeah. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN: Elias, the imagery that I felt I received as Vicki was going through this ... the pictures that I got in my head were very, very clear of where she was. Can I trust that, or was I interpreting through my own ...

ELIAS: This is an interpretation.

VIVIEN: Okay. If nobody else has a question, I’d like to ask another one. I was going to ask you about the hypnosis, the rapid induction technique. I think I know the dynamics of how it works, but I would like to hear the correct interpretation of this. How does it work?

ELIAS: These elements “work,” in your terms, in conjunction with individuals’ belief systems. There is no magical element. There is in actuality no “method,” although you believe that you teach yourselves methods. But individuals ... ALL of you as individuals hold a suggestibility within your objective awareness, and dependent upon your belief systems and your desires, these elements may be accomplished or not; but it is not necessarily that you are affecting of physical brain elements. In actuality, you are merely working within the framework of other individuals’ belief systems and what they believe they shall allow themselves to be accomplishing or not accomplishing.

VIVIEN: So it’s what they expect?

ELIAS: Quite.

BOBBI: I have a question. This is off on a different tangent. Do I have a past focus named Robert?


BOBBI: Okay. This week I was trying to connect that name, and I thought it was your voice. Am I giving myself information and putting it in your voice to make it more acceptable, or are you telling me?

ELIAS: You are not “putting in” my voice. (Grinning)

BOBBI: Okay, thank you. That would be the image of the man that I think of as the pirate?

ELIAS: Correct.

BOBBI: Okay. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are accomplishing quite well!

BOBBI: This is all very exciting! Thank you!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) I shall be disengaging this evening and allowing your interaction for your fun and entertainment, for your energy is quite holding this evening within this forum!

VICKI: Yeah! What’s up with that?

ELIAS: This is YOUR energy, not essences.

VICKI: Right, but we all kind of felt something odd, but we weren’t really sure what it was.

VIVIEN: Yeah, like a dead zone!

ELIAS: This is the energy that you are all collectively projecting.

VIVIEN: Aren’t we fun!

ELIAS: For you are each within your own little spheres, so to speak, this evening, dealing with your own issues, which are a little more consuming than you are usually projecting, especially within this forum! But I shall be acknowledging of this, this evening, and you may be in your terms “lightening up” with your games and fun! And you may be offering yourself a little more lightness than you are offering yourself this far this evening! I shall be delivering information continuing with the essence families at our next meeting.

CATHY: Can I ask one little teeny question?

ELIAS: You may. (Grinning)

CATHY: I want to know if Elizabeth is Bianka.

ELIAS: Ah! Very good, Shynla! And they are continuing with their fighting, are they not? (Laughing)

CATHY: Yes, they are!

ELIAS: (Still laughing) One point!

I shall bid you all this evening much affection, and a very fond au revoir!

Elias departs at 7:50 PM.

Vic’s note: The energy really was very strange during this session, but we all had a lot of fun afterwards! Interesting ...

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