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Wednesday, July 08, 1998

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“This Area of Psychic Prediction is Dangerous!”

Participants: Mary (Michael), and a new participant, Peggy.

Vic’s note: This session prompts me to suggest that if you are recommending a private session to somebody, it might be a good idea to explain to them that Elias doesn’t go into areas of “mediumship” or fortune-telling.

Elias arrives at 10:09 AM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning! And you have inquiries this day? (Pause) Shall you respond?

PEGGY: I can’t hear you very well.

ELIAS: Ah! Shall I speak louder to you?

PEGGY: I’d like you to speak louder, if you could.

ELIAS: Very well! And what be your inquiries this day?

PEGGY: I would like to know if I can talk with my husband. (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah ...

PEGGY: Is he there?

ELIAS: ... who occupies the area of transition presently. Let me express to you that this exchange that I offer to individuals within physical focus is not an energy exchange which holds the purpose of being a medium between individuals within the area of transition and individuals within physical focus. Are you understanding?

PEGGY: So he’s in transition right now, so I can’t talk to him?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: Okay. Then let me see ... about how long will that last?

ELIAS: This is dependent upon the individual, for as it translates into your physical time framework, it may be between one of your years or it may be more than one hundred of your years. It is merely dependent upon the individual and their movement within the action of shedding their belief systems in this area of transition.

PEGGY: Well, could he still be here with me now?

ELIAS: There are energy deposits that remain within physical focus that you may be connecting to which are directly deposited by the individual at the moment of their disengagement.

PEGGY: Are you able to contact them at all while they’re in transition?

ELIAS: It is possible, but it is also confusing to the individual within transition and is not always recognized by the individual within transition.

PEGGY: Okay. Can you tell me, what are my issues in this lifetime?

ELIAS: This is a vast question, is it not? (Chuckling) Let me express to you that within this present now, the issue that you hold more strongly than other issues is that of discounting of yourself and moving into the area of the lack of self-worth.

PEGGY: What was that?

ELIAS: The lack of self-worth. Let me explain. This would be the situation that you look to other individuals to validate yourself or to be surrounding you to be lending energy to you, that you may view yourself to be whole. Let me also express to you that you need not engage this action dependent upon other individuals, for you hold the ability in acknowledging yourself and accepting yourself to be whole, so to speak, within yourself.

I may also express to you that presently you experience confusion in certain areas; confusion in the area of which direction you “should” be moving in. Let me also express to you that there is no “should.” This is a belief system that is held en masse, but you also align with this belief system, and therefore, as you are not offering yourself a specific directedness within your focus, you also move into the area of confusion, allowing yourself to move in many directions, not knowing objectively which “path,” so to speak, you must be....

PEGGY: Have I accomplished any of the things that I set out to accomplish?

ELIAS: Absolutely. You have accomplished many actions within your focus. You now move into an area of looking to self for your own independence, so to speak, and your own choice of movement in new adventures, but this also holds an element of fearfulness for you, which you are moving in the direction of eliminating this particular fear.

PEGGY: Can you tell me what was maybe one of my recent incarnations?

ELIAS: (Accessing) You have held a focus within what you term now to be the location of the Middle East, in Lebanon. You have been a merchant in that particular focus, and at times you have been known within that focus to be quite colorful in your exchange with other individuals, not always in the area of being completely honest with them! (Chuckling)

PEGGY: Was I with my husband or any of my children in a past lifetime?


PEGGY: Why did my children choose me as a parent?

ELIAS: Each child, so to speak – or as I term this to be, each entering focus – chooses the parents as their facilitating avenue to be entering into physical manifestation, and in this they choose individually for their own reasons particular individuals that shall offer them the individual and particular lineage, heritage, and genetic encoding that they wish to be experiencing within a particular focus. They oftentimes also choose specific individuals for the particular interaction that they may be offered in the area of family, and this has been the situation with these individuals also.

PEGGY: Alright. Am I accomplishing everything I’m supposed to do for myself and others in my life now?

ELIAS: Ah! Now we move into the area of what you are “supposed to do!” Let me express to you that you, as all individuals within physical focus, are not supposed to do ANYTHING particular within physical focus. Your purpose within physical focus is merely to experience. Therefore, I shall also express to you that this is a belief system that is held, that you are supposed to be accomplishing certain things within your focus. You ARE accomplishing in the area of your intent in this focus. Do not allow yourself to move into the direction of what you are supposed to be doing or not supposed to be doing, for this incorporates the belief system of duplicity and shall merely add to your conflict.

PEGGY: Will I be seeing my husband when I cross over, or my parents?

ELIAS: Let me express to you in this questioning, this is an interesting question and also offers information to yourself and to other individuals in the area of mass held belief systems, for you BELIEVE that as you disengage physical focus – or you enter the action of death – that you shall move into an area non-physically where you shall be greeted by all of your relatives and dear ones that have “passed through” before you, so to speak.

Now; let me also express to you that this is a belief system, although in part it is based in truthfulness, for as you enter into the area of transition, all of your focuses that you have held within this dimension shall be before you, and you shall be participating in all of them as you are disengaging or shedding your belief systems. Therefore, there is a viewing of all of the individuals that you have participated with in physical focuses, but the relationship to these individuals takes on new meaning, for you are not viewing one singular focus.

What you experience presently is one singular focus, what you term to be one lifetime. This one focus is one of very many focuses. Therefore, each individual that you encounter or hold a relationship with within this one particular focus holds....

PEGGY: Alright. Could you tell me, will my pets be over there? Do pets go over?

ELIAS: Let me continue with this answer initially, and then I shall answer your question of your pets.

PEGGY: Okay.

ELIAS: The individuals that you view within this focus do not hold the intensity of significance to you once you are within the action of transition, for they only hold significance in this one focus. Are you understanding?


ELIAS: Therefore, your attention shall not be so intensely focused upon these particular individuals once you enter the area of transition.

As to your questioning of your pets, your creatures, they are consciousness. They are not essence.

PEGGY: They are not what?

ELIAS: They are not essence.

PEGGY: Oh, I see.

ELIAS: YOU are essence. Creatures are creations of you. Therefore, no, they do not enter into the area of transition with you.

PEGGY: So when they’re gone, you never see them again.

ELIAS: Not....

PEGGY: Okay, now can you tell me anything about my children? I’d like to know where, for instance, my son Dave and his wife Olga and family are headed, and are they headed in the right direction?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) First of all, I shall address to your statement that once you are disengaging you shall never see your creatures again, for this is slightly distorted, for you do hold an awareness of all consciousness, and as your creatures are of consciousness, you do hold the recognition and the awareness of their presence as energy and consciousness, as they may be restructuring themselves through consciousness once you are disengaged from physical focus.

Therefore, it is simply put to be expressing that you never view them again once you disengage from physical focus. This is a singular thought process and too small to be encompassing the actual action and knowing and awareness that you experience once you enter into non-physical focus. Do you understand?

PEGGY: Yes, I do.

ELIAS: As....

PEGGY: Now my next question was, where are Dave and Olga and family headed and are they in the right direction, and the same with my son Richard and his wife Patty and their family.

ELIAS: And what be the nature of your questioning in this inquiry? By....

PEGGY: I’m wondering, are they going to be together, are they going to divorce, or are they fine?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) You are looking for predictions!

PEGGY: Is that a prediction?

ELIAS: Let me express to you that probabilities are ever-changing, and therefore there are always choices. Individuals may be choosing different probabilities at any moment.

Now; let me also express to you that there exists in their pool of probabilities, with your son and his wife, the possibility of the creation of their separation, but this remains a possibility, not an actuality.

PEGGY: And that’s the same for both sons?

ELIAS: It is more of a possibility for the one son, that which you name to be....

PEGGY: Which son would that be?

ELIAS: That which you name to be David.

PEGGY: So he’s more likely to be divorced than the other one, but it’s just a probability, right?

ELIAS: It is merely a probability. I do not express more of a likelihood, but that the possibility is stronger.

PEGGY: I see. Now are my grandchildren going to enjoy good health and find happiness, or can you ... is that also a prediction?

ELIAS: This would be their choice.

PEGGY: I see. Now can you tell me where my granddaughter Jennifer might be headed in her teenage years? (Pause)

ELIAS: Within her present creation of her own probabilities, she is moving into the area of not only self-discovery and exploration, but also moving into an awareness of this shift in consciousness and noticing the actions of this shift. Therefore, she may also be helpful to other individuals within your family in offering an understanding to them of the movement and some of the actions of this shift in consciousness.

PEGGY: And do you see anything for my granddaughter Priscilla?

ELIAS: There are many probabilities, but these are all choices of each individual.

Understand that you may engage the action of an individual that you term to be a psychic, but I caution you in this area, for they may offer you the first layer of probabilities that seem to be predictions of future events and offer you validity by expressing to you the connection of past events to validate you, but all of these are probabilities, and in their expression to you they do not allow for all of the choices and the free will that you all hold. Therefore, this area of psychic prediction is dangerous.

PEGGY: Okay, then let me see ... my family and myself, do you see any health problems that we should be aware of?

ELIAS: There are possibilities futurely of this action, but once again, these are probabilities and may be altered through the individual’s experience and choices continuously.

PEGGY: So you don’t see anything in particular that they should be aware of now, that we could maybe prevent?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: Okay, let me see. Do you see any major set of circumstances that might deplete me completely financially that I should be aware of?

ELIAS: Not within this present now.

PEGGY: Alright, and do you see anything ... this is something not to do with me personally, but need I be concerned at all with the Y2K period that we’re going to enter in the year 2000?

ELIAS: (A crooked smile here) No, for this also involves many belief systems. Therefore, do not concern yourself with the belief systems of what you have expressed, but move in the direction of addressing to your own belief systems and acknowledging yourself in the acceptance of self. Concern yourself with these actions and not with the actions that have been set forth within belief systems of many other individuals concerning your future.

PEGGY: So the Y2K period will be taken care of by itself?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: So that’s no worry at all.

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: Okay, and is there any particular thing that I have that I should be working on for my own spirituality, you might say?

ELIAS: As I have stated already within this session, yes. Look to yourself and be addressing to your own belief systems, recognizing the belief systems that you hold, and also be allowing yourself to move into the direction of acceptance of self, and this shall be moving you into more of a widening of your own awareness, an expansion of your own periphery, which shall be helpful to you.

PEGGY: Okay. Is there anything in particular, that you can look at me and tell me anything I should be doing? For instance, maybe so I could possibly get in touch with some of my guides or anything like that?

Vic’s note: Here, Elias sighs and sports another crooked smile. The patience of this essence is simply amazing to me!

ELIAS: You hold very many very strong belief systems. This shall be creating of much trauma within your focus if you are not looking to these belief systems and addressing to them.

I express to you that there is much information that has been offered that you may also be connecting with and allowing yourself the opportunity to assimilate the information, that you may begin to address to these belief systems that you hold very strongly, for we move more swiftly now into the action of this shift in consciousness, and as it moves into more intensity and becomes stronger in its movement, you also become more affected, and in this affectingness you shall be moving yourself into the area of trauma if you are not addressing to these belief systems that you hold.

Therefore, my suggestion to you is to be allowing yourself the opportunity to connect with individuals of like mind, to be sharing information between yourself and other individuals, allowing yourself the opportunity to view your own belief systems and to be addressing to them.

PEGGY: Do you see me ever ... not becoming a medium, but ever developing my own psychic abilities?

ELIAS: Yes. As you move into the direction more fully of addressing to your belief systems, you shall also allow yourself, in your own widening of awareness, the opportunity to be developing your inner senses, and as you are developing your own inner senses, you shall also open to other individuals and allow yourself the ability to be connecting with and understanding them and yourself more fully. This is what you term within your belief systems to be psychic expressions. In actuality, it is merely an opening to your own inner senses and exercising these inner senses.

PEGGY: Is there any particular way that I could develop these?

ELIAS: Absolutely. I have offered exercises previously, that you may be inquiring of Michael and he shall be offering you this information to be helpful to you.

PEGGY: And who is Michael?

ELIAS: Michael is the individual that I engage this energy exchange with, that individual that you know objectively as Mary.

PEGGY: As who?

ELIAS: Mary.

PEGGY: I can’t understand that word ... Barry?

ELIAS: Mary!

PEGGY: Gary? (Elias grins and chuckles) (1)

ELIAS: The individual that you have spoken with before my arrival.

PEGGY: Oh, Mary! Oh, I’m sorry. Okay, and she will be able to give me some exercises that I can do?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: I see. I guess that’s it. I thought I would be able to talk to my husband, so I had a lot of questions for him. There is nothing that you could possibly tell me that I could help my children or grandchildren with?

ELIAS: Your helpfulness to your children and your grandchildren is to be accepting of them, and accepting and allowing for their expressions, and merely lending supportiveness to them in all of their expressions.

PEGGY: Do you see any of them going on the wrong path?


PEGGY: So you see them all turning out alright, more or less?

ELIAS: Within the confines of your belief systems expressed, yes.

PEGGY: Okay, that’s all I need to know! (Elias chuckles) You can’t tell a career or something that they might engage in. Is that right, or you can?

ELIAS: This would be entirely their choice. I may view the different probabilities, but I do not move in the direction of predicting, for these are all their own choices.

PEGGY: Do you see Priscilla pursuing a musical career?

ELIAS: There is a probability which is held, or the potentiality for the probability, but it has not been chosen to this present now.

PEGGY: How about my grandchild Christina?

ELIAS: As I have stated, THESE ARE THEIR CHOICES. My interaction and expression of their choices would be influencing of their choices and this may be intrusive to another individual, for it influences in the direction of not entirely expressing an allowance for their OWN creation WITHOUT influence.

PEGGY: Alright, now I have one more. My grandson Dusty, do you see him staying with his father for like through his teenage years, say, or going with his mother? (Pause)

ELIAS: Presently, this individual leans more in the direction of the mother.

PEGGY: So do you see him leaving his father to go to his mother?

ELIAS: There is this possibility, although once again, this is not absolute. It is merely a probability that the individual leans towards, but each individual may be creating of changes or alterations in their probabilities in every moment.

PEGGY: I see. That came as a surprise for me! Do you see Jennifer as staying with her mother or father?

ELIAS: There is no leaning for change presently.

PEGGY: I see. And is there no reason for change right now presently with Dusty either?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: Oh, okay. But there is a probability there, and that’s all?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: A possibility, even?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: Okay. Let me look over my list. Can you tell whether my husband crossed over peacefully or whether he crossed over with pain?

ELIAS: There is no pain associated with moving into the area of transition, although I shall express to you that this individual, as many other individuals, has experienced some elements of physical painfulness within the area of transition, for there is a continuation of the holding to objective awareness, and in this you do not entirely shed the physical aspect of existence either.

PEGGY: Hmm. Will I be able to possibly see him tangibly at all before my own death?

ELIAS: If you are engaging in this action, this would be entirely your own creation. It would not be a projection of the actual individual and their actual presence, so to speak, within physical focus. It would be your own projection of a memory which you offer to yourself, in comforting to yourself.

PEGGY: I see. How about ... my mother crossed over some time ago. Is there any way that I could contact her?

ELIAS: The attention of individuals that occupy non-physical areas of consciousness is not directed singularly. Therefore, you may be in contact, so to speak, with all of these individuals, but they may not necessarily be responsive, or if they are choosing to be responsive it shall not be within the intensity that you expect, for their attention is much greater and much wider than you allow for within physical focus.

PEGGY: Do you see my husband and I having another lifetime together, and did we have lifetimes together prior to this?

ELIAS: Yes, you have held other focuses within what you term to be past, and in what you are expressing, yes, you also hold future focuses.

PEGGY: We also what?

ELIAS: You also hold future focuses.

PEGGY: Alright. Do I have guides working for me now?

ELIAS: There are many essences which are helpful to you, but they are not what you express to be “guides,” for there are no guides. There merely is no separation within consciousness, and therefore all essences are helpful to each within consciousness.

PEGGY: I see. Okay, let me see. I was going to ask if my guides had any recommendations for me, but if I don’t really have any, I guess that isn’t going to be of much help to me! (Elias chuckles) Could you tell me maybe a couple of the areas or times in history that I experienced in past physical form?

ELIAS: I have offered you one already.

PEGGY: I know, but are there any others?

ELIAS: You also hold another focus within the area of Far East, that location which is designated as Japan. You occupy that focus as a warrior in ancient time period. You also hold another focus within your location of your Americas in Central America....

PEGGY: Where?

ELIAS: Central America, in the capacity of a peasant, within time periods of Spaniards which occupy that area and their establishment of what you term to be missions.

PEGGY: I see. Was I a Spaniard or an Indian?

ELIAS: That which you term to be Indian.

PEGGY: And when I was in Lebanon, what time period would that have been?

ELIAS: This would be within the time framework of physical focus of your 1400’s.

PEGGY: Do you see me having ever lived in Boston?

ELIAS: (Accessing) You hold another focus of your essence presently in that location.

PEGGY: In Boston?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: At what time period would that have been?

ELIAS: This occupies this present time period.

PEGGY: Well, like in my physical form right now?

ELIAS: Another focus of your essence occupies that location presently.

PEGGY: I don’t understand that!

ELIAS: You think of yourself singularly. You think of yourself as one individual and that this is the whole of you, but you are essence. Therefore, you are also holding focuses that occupy many areas within this dimension, many time frames and many areas.

PEGGY: Is it like when you sleep, you’re in another place?

ELIAS: No. Simultaneous to now, you also hold another focus, which is another individual, which is part, so to speak, of your essence; another focus of your essence which occupies the same time framework as yourself, but a different location.

PEGGY: I see. I guess I’m not advanced enough to be able to really understand that.

ELIAS: Ah, do not be discounting of yourself! You may be inquiring of Michael and also you may be engaging your nephew, [and] as you make your inquiries to these individuals, they may offer you helpfulness in your understanding of these concepts.

PEGGY: My nephew just seems to be getting into this now, and is he like advanced in this and just hasn’t realized it?

ELIAS: He is moving swiftly within his understanding. I do not express advanced or not advanced. He is merely experiencing what he is choosing to be experiencing and he is moving into a widening of awareness at the rate that he is choosing to be creating that, but in this he is also allowing himself to move swiftly in this area.

PEGGY: I see. Okay, I guess that’s it! Could you give me a possible time frame ... I guess you can’t ... when I could maybe be able to contact my husband, or will that be probably when I pass on?

ELIAS: As I have stated, you may offer your contact, so to speak, but it may not be reciprocated in the manner of your expectation. Therefore, you may not hold an awareness of the response to it.

PEGGY: I just wondered, because I always feel that he’s still here.

ELIAS: As I have stated, this is the energy deposit which has been allowed to be left within this physical focus, and that is what you feel.

PEGGY: So it’s something that he chose to leave here?

ELIAS: Correct.

PEGGY: I see. Okay. So all I’m supposed to ... what I still really have left to do is to just open my own spirituality, so to speak?

ELIAS: Open to yourself, yes.

PEGGY: Open to myself. And am I doing all I can to help my children and grandchildren now, or should I be doing more?

ELIAS: You are accomplishing well, and it is unnecessary for you to be expressing more.

PEGGY: Okay! I think that’s all. Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, and you may call upon me futurely if you are so choosing, and I shall be engaging you again.

PEGGY: Okay, thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are welcome. For this day I express to you much fondness, and I offer you, in affection, a very fond adieu.

PEGGY: Thank you very much, and thank you for coming to see me.

Elias departs at 10:57 AM.


(1) I had the strangest experience while proofreading this script. As I always do, I had printed it out first, so I was reading it on paper. As I came upon the line, “PEGGY: Gary?,” I noticed a quotation mark right after the Y in PEGGY. So, I looked at the computer monitor, but there was no quotation mark. So, thinking maybe it was one of those hidden things, I placed the cursor behind Gary, backspaced two spaces, and then went forward two spaces. I looked down at the paper, and the quotation mark had moved two spaces. Now it was appearing (on the paper) right next to the G in Gary. I rationalized this by thinking maybe I had noticed it incorrectly the first time. So, I repeated the backspacing/forward spacing procedure. The quotation mark moved (on the paper) to UNDER the G in Gary. It never appeared on the computer monitor.

Now that I have finished typing this footnote, the quotation mark is no longer appearing on the printed copy. Go figure!

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