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Friday, January 07, 2000

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“Simultaneous Time”


Participants: Mary (Joshuatree), Joanne (Gildae), and Marj (Grady).

Elias arrives at 12:52 PM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

BOTH: Good morning! (Elias chuckles)

MARJ: And how are you? We already know, but....

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! As always, as you are aware! (Chuckling)

MARJ: (Laughing) It’s good to talk to you again, Elias. We’ve been anxiously waiting!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And you may proceed!

MARJ: Okay, I have a question. At one of our weekly sessions that we have here at my house, I had the pleasure of having a messenger speak to me. You know we use the board here, and the board told me that this was Dominique, and Dominique told me that she wanted to tell us about other worlds, other dimensions, more wonders than we could ever imagine, and I was wondering if you could validate this for me.

ELIAS: I shall validate your experience, and I shall express to you that this is not another essence, but an allowance of your essence in communication with you.

This is an offering of other-dimensional aspects of your essence, in offering you information in conjunction with your movement in widening your awareness and in allowing yourselves to be open, and this is an allowance of yourselves to be accessing more information in relation to this shift in consciousness.

MARJ: Amazing! (Elias chuckles, and there is a pause)

JOANNE: Are you there, Elias?

ELIAS: Quite!

MARJ: Oh, okay! (Laughing) Well, right after that happened, Elias, in a dream I saw two reddish-colored planets almost side-by-side, in almost a yellow-colored sky. Can you give me some meaning for that?

ELIAS: This also is imagery that you are presenting to yourself in conjunction with your experience in the offering of information, and in this, you allow yourself a temporary viewing of other elements of physical reality that are unfamiliar to you.

For as I have stated previously within this forum, you shall be allowing yourselves movement into the experience and the viewing of other dimensions, physical and nonphysical, in the action of this shift, and as you move into your new millennium, you now begin the action of inserting this shift in consciousness into your objective, officially accepted reality. Therefore, as I have stated recently, NOW it begins, in objective terms.

You have offered yourselves preparation subjectively, and you have offered yourselves some experiences objectively. But now you shall move into the allowance of altering your objective reality, and in the altering of this objective reality, you begin movement in the objectification – in reality – of all of the subjects that we have been discussing within this forum. All that you have previously viewed as future events are now beginning to objectify themselves within your actual officially accepted physical reality in this dimension.

Therefore, you may also be continuing to offer yourself imagery of different elements of reality that are unfamiliar to you, that you may be familiarizing yourself with these different elements of reality, and as you move more within the action of this shift and you allow yourself the actual travel, figuratively speaking, to be incorporating experiences with other aspects of reality which may not necessarily be within this physical dimension, you shall allow yourself movement without fearfulness, for you have already offered yourself a preparation in imagery, that what you may view shall not be so very unfamiliar to you. Are you understanding?

MARJ: Yes, I am! That’s fantastic! (Elias chuckles) Wow! Well then, let’s see. The other night I was sitting outside, and I saw a shooting star. I was thinking about how I would ask you about Dominique when that happened. Then later on in the evening, I had been asleep, and all of a sudden, I woke up because my heart was pounding in my chest, and as my eyes flew open, I saw the most beautiful green ... I think it was a beetle, and it had rubies and other precious gems on its back. I just never saw such incredible color, and I was wondering if you could explain that imagery to me.

ELIAS: This also moves in conjunction with the other experiences that you have offered to yourself. You are allowing yourself to be exploring within imagery that you are creating, and this also is a type of practicing, in familiarizing yourself with other types of presentments of reality than what you are accustomed to.

I shall express to you that within other areas of consciousness, color, as it may be expressed – as YOU identify it – may appear differently than as it appears in its familiarity to you now within your physical dimension. In other areas of consciousness, you may view that color is exhibited in a different quality, and therefore, in some areas of consciousness, may appear extremely brilliant, and at times quite luminescent.

MARJ: It was definitely that! It was brilliant! I was wondering ... at first, I thought perhaps it was imagery of a past focus of mine. I didn’t connect it necessarily to Dominique, but it had nothing to do with a past focus?

ELIAS: No. This is an offering to yourself of future, and of your movement in the action of familiarizing yourself with elements that are outside of your actual physical reality presently, but that you may be accessing futurely as you continue within your movement of widening your awareness.

You image this in the form of an element or a creature that holds some familiarity to you, and this is your offering in expression to yourself that you shall not be incorporating fearfulness, for you continue to allow yourself some element of form that is familiar to you, but within that form, you also allow yourself to view elements that are unfamiliar to you, in the qualities of brilliance in these colors.

You may, as you continue your exploration, recognize that in these areas of consciousness in which color is expressed in this type of brilliance, it also expresses its vibrational quality, which may at times translate into certain tones, so to speak. Therefore, the quality of the colors themselves are expressed in more of a multi-dimensional manner than they are expressed within your physical reality.

MARJ: Wow! Hmm! I have some exciting work to do!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And FUN!

MARJ: Yes! (Laughing) Okay, I have a question about all time being simultaneous that maybe you can help me with ... well, I’m sure you can. My dad died in 1994, and my understanding is that he has since remanifest back into the year 1919, and he is living as a little boy in India. I can conceive of that. What I’m trying to understand about all time being simultaneous gets mixed up. My friend Hal died last year, and my understanding here is that he’s in Regional Area 3. I was also told that we’re to have a future focus together in 2053. Now, how can we get together in 2053, and he being in Regional Area 3, and it’s all happening at the same time?

ELIAS: Ha ha!

MARJ: Can you understand my confusion?

ELIAS: Quite, and I shall express to you that in part, I may not necessarily be entirely dispelling your confusion, for within this time framework, in your physical understanding and associations, it is difficult to be expressing explanation satisfactorily to you that you may be objectively understanding of.

In your physical dimension, you have created a perception of linear time. In this, you perceive, in this particular physical dimension, that time moves in a linear fashion and that it moves in sequence, so to speak. Therefore, as your perception is the element that creates your reality, the movement of time in linear fashion becomes a reality, but it is relative. It is relative to this physical dimension and is not necessarily a reality – in the manner that it is expressed – in other dimensions or in other areas of consciousness.

Now; there are other aspects of this subject matter of time, in relation to your physical dimension, that exist, so to speak, also, for in order to be creating a linear time framework within your physical dimension and also incorporate the simultaneousness of all focuses of essence, what you have created are dimensions within a dimension. You have created what we may term to be sub-dimensions.

These are all of the many, many, many, many dimensions of time within this physical dimension that you have created, for each time framework creates its own dimension. Therefore, it is occurring and continues to occur in the now and in conjunction with simultaneous time, but it also is past or future, as you view your reality through the perception of linear time framework.

In this, in your reality, the movement of time linearly is a reality. In all of consciousness, time moving in a linear fashion is not necessarily a reality. The movement of it is relative to this dimension.

Now: time itself is a quality of consciousness. Therefore, you may identify time, in a manner of speaking, as a truth, in that it may be translated into any area of consciousness, but the manner in which it is translated may be quite different. Therefore, the expression that you view as a reality – of the movement of time within your physical dimension – may be viewed as an illusion in other areas of consciousness, for it is a creation of your perception.

Even within your physical dimension in the now, it is relative. It is dependent upon your perception in how it shall move, and your perception alters its movement continuously.

It also is dependent upon which angle you are perceiving the movement of time within, for you may be viewing time in one manner, and it may appear within your perception to be created in a particular fashion, and you may turn your attention and alter your perception, and your viewing of the movement of the time shall alter dramatically also.

It is also dependent upon your attention in conjunction with your perception, even within your physical dimension in the now; not within the past, not within the future, but in the now.

Individuals allow themselves experiences within your physical dimension in which they identify they have lost time. They have experienced the passage of many hours in the physical time framework of few seconds, or they may experience the movement of time in NO expression of time.

In this, what I am expressing to you first of all is that your perception is that which creates your identification of the movement of time in this physical dimension, and it is quite relative. It is not an absolute, and it is quite bendable and changeable.

As to the questioning of how an individual may be manifest and not manifest simultaneously, this is the action of identification of different aspects of essence.

The aspect of essence within a particular focus that assumes the position of the primary aspect of the focus – that which holds the identity and individuality, that which you recognize within yourself or within another individual as what you identify as the individual – that aspect does not remanifest. There is no karma and there is no reincarnation. You do not remanifest.

You, in the identity of you – the you that you are familiar with, that you recognize, that you identify as yourself – shall not remanifest, for this is unnecessary within essence and is redundant. Therefore, it is not a choice that essence incorporates in the exploration of consciousness.

You, at the moment of disengagement from physical focus, move to other creations in consciousness. You move into other areas of consciousness to be exploring those areas of consciousness in whichever direction you so choose. But there may be an aspect of that particular focus of essence which may be manifest also.

The element of this discussion that holds difficulty within your objective understanding is that all of this occurs now. It is merely a perception that creates the reality within your physical dimension that you are experiencing past and future and present.

In this, I may express to you that all of these focuses, all of these actions, are in actuality expressed now, and are all occurring simultaneously.

I may also express to you that within your physical dimension and the construct to this point of your understanding, you may continue to be incorporating difficulty in the assimilation of this concept of simultaneous time and the actions that are engaged by essence and focuses of essence, for you continue to view your reality in an element of singularity. Your identification has not entirely altered yet, and in this, you continue to view yourselves and your reality as singular.

You identify yourselves as one entity. You identify your dimension as one place. You identify your time framework as an absolute. These are definitions that you hold presently, which are altering with respect to this shift in consciousness, for you are redefining your definitions within your reality of ALL of your reality, and therefore you are also redefining your reality itself.

And in this, you shall allow yourselves to be incorporating more of an understanding of the movement of consciousness and the concept of simultaneous time, although as you continue within this physical dimension, you shall continue to incorporate elements of linear time movement, and therefore, in this creation of this type of reality, you may also continue objectively to incorporate some difficulties in understanding objectively the concept of linear time versus simultaneous time.

But I shall also express to you that in the movement of this shift, you shall also be allowing yourself more of an interaction with your conceptual sense, which is one of your inner senses, and within the exercising of your conceptual sense, you may hold an understanding objectively of the reality of simultaneous time.

Without the incorporation of your conceptuality, you may experience tremendous difficulty in objectively understanding simultaneous time, but as you allow yourself to be incorporating this conceptualization, you shall allow yourself more of an objective understanding of the movement of consciousness and its relationship to time.

MARJ: Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

MARJ: I think I got some glimmers there.

ELIAS: HA HA! As I have stated, I shall not be UN-confusing you, but I shall offer you an explanation! Ha ha ha!

MARJ: Well, I can understand the dimensions within the dimensions, and I also understand the perception ...

ELIAS: Quite.

MARJ: ... about the passage of time, and also your point that my aspect does not, if I understand you correctly, remanifest, but another aspect of me does?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

MARJ: So, I did pick up a little bit there!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!

MARJ: I’ll study it when I’ve got it in writing! (Laughing)

Joanne has some questions for you, so I don’t want hog all your time, but thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

JOANNE: Hi, Elias!

ELIAS: Good day to you!

JOANNE: Anything new going on up there, or over there, or ...?

ELIAS: HA HA! Always!

JOANNE: Always? Anything we’d find interesting or understand?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! Not tremendously, I shall venture to express to you, for I engage, as do you, a continuous exploration of consciousness and a continuous action of becoming, as do you, but in very different terms. Ha ha ha!

JOANNE: When do you have all this time? (Laughing)

ELIAS: I need not be expressing time, for it is all simultaneous! Ha ha ha!

JOANNE: But you spend so much of it teaching us! I was gonna ask you if you ever bang your hand on your forehead, but I know you’ll tell me you have no forehead to bang it on!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! This also would be an expression of exasperation, and I may express to you that I do not experience exasperation! (Chuckling)

JOANNE: Well, that’s good! ‘Cause you can spend all your time experiencing it! (Cracking up)

ELIAS: Within your physical dimension, you are quite right!

JOANNE: (Cracking up) I love it! Oh, where to start! I wanted to ask you, the first time I dreamt about you was over 20 years ago, and off and on, throughout my life, I’ve looked for you, thinking that at some point I’d bump into you on the street, and I was really upset to find out that you aren’t physically focused! And I was wondering why I’ve been looking for you all this time?

ELIAS: For the reason that you have drawn yourself to this forum, and you HAVE bumped into me and you HAVE found me! Ha ha ha!

JOANNE: I’ve had some imagery of a young woman in a beautiful blue gown talking to a dark-haired gentleman, and I think that the dark-haired gentleman in this vision ... we were standing in front of a fireplace, all dressed up. I was wondering, was that you? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes. This is imagery that you have presented to yourself in conjunction with another focus.

JOANNE: Was that you when you were Elias?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOANNE: The woman, was she your sister? (Pause)

ELIAS: No. This individual would be identified as an intimate friend.

JOANNE: Did you ever have a sister in that focus? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOANNE: Well, okay! Was I in and around your life in that focus?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and this is the reason that you have allowed yourself to view this imagery, in an allowance of accessing information in conjunction to your desire to be investigating shared focuses.

JOANNE: So was I the woman in the blue dress?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOANNE: Was I ... I don’t know. I had gotten some information that at one time, I was your sister.

ELIAS: This would not be in that particular focus, but would be an expression within one focus that I incorporated in a physical location which is identified as Far East, or China.

JOANNE: Okay. Were we fraternal twins?


JOANNE: Okay. For some reason, at night or even here at my mom’s, when I sense presences around, sometimes I get the name Rastin, and I know that at one time ... or that has something to do with you?

ELIAS: You are correct. This is the identification of the essence tone which was incorporated in the initial energy exchange in this phenomenon, which has been altered subsequent to that point.

In this, there has been an alteration in essence and the incorporation of fragmentation of this particular essence, which incorporates all of the qualities of that fragmenting essence of Rastin. But within this now, the essence that you are engaging is the essence of Elias, and not of Rastin.

JOANNE: So that IS you sometimes? (Laughing)

ELIAS: This would be, at times, in your terms, your recognition of my energy, and within other time frameworks, it is your recognition of the energy of Rastin.

JOANNE: Oh, okay. Because Rastin does seem, for some reason, more familiar.

ELIAS: This is the fragmenting essence, and in this, you have incorporated mergence and interaction with that essence and manifestations of that essence, which are not necessarily, in what you would identify in physical terms, the same as the essence of Elias.

JOANNE: Okay, I’ll have to read that over again to get it. This is a good one – was I ever your mother? (Laughing) Or Rastin’s mother? (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah, this would be the incorporation of your accessing of information of focuses in conjunction with the essence of Rastin.

JOANNE: Ah, okay. Was my name Naomi? (Pause)

ELIAS: Not Naomi; Nomi.

JOANNE: Nomi, okay. Was Vicki involved in that focus? (Pause)

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, as a focus of essence which does not hold entirely the same tone as those which are most easily accessible to the focus which is held now, that you identify as Victoria.

JOANNE: It was funny – she said that when she hears my voice, her teeth get numb, or fuzzy! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Interesting creation of energy!

JOANNE: (Laughing) Is there a reason for that, or is it just the energy coming through?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) This would be her incorporation of energy in conjunction to that focus, and in this, within that focus there is a creation of certain actions involving teeth that may be associated in energy, and therefore it may be translated in this focus as that type of affectingness. Quite creative! Ha ha! (Pause)

JOANNE: When I talk to you or when I think about you, I have a lot of feelings, a lot of different feelings. I’ve been investigating past focuses because I’m trying to explain to myself why I have these feelings, and I was wondering if the reason I feel all these things is because of shared focuses.

ELIAS: Partially, you are correct. This holds a tremendous influence, for there is an allowance of bleed-through, and in this, I may express to you that some individuals within physical focus do allow themselves this type of a response as they also allow themselves an interaction with myself presently.

This type of action sparks, in a manner of speaking, the memory, figuratively speaking, and in this, there is a type of automatic action which occurs in your allowance for opening in energy – and in a partial allowance of awareness – which creates a flow of energy associated with other focuses that are shared, and this is allowed to partially translate into objective terms, and the first element that you allow in translation are feelings and emotions. You may also at times experience certain physical sensations, and this is also an allowance of the association of other focuses as they bleed through in energy objectively.

You have already held a knowing and association of the energy of these other focuses shared subjectively, but have not allowed an objective incorporation of the energy. Many times this energy, as I have expressed, translates into an association of emotion, for this, in a manner of speaking, allows you objectively to be opening a door, so to speak, and motivating yourself in the investigation of other focuses, and in this, you allow yourself prior to your investigation an element of familiarity, which dispels expressions of fearfulness.

I may also express to you, within several of the focuses that I incorporated in your physical dimension, the interaction that I held with other individuals was diverse, and there are several focuses that were manifest in which my interaction extended in intimacy to more than one individual within each of those focuses.

And in this, there is a recognition in the individuals that participated in those focuses of the expression of energy in an emotional quality, and as each individual that has participated with myself in any of those focuses draws themself to this forum and to the objective interaction with this essence, there is an immediate recognition of that emotional quality which has been expressed in other focuses in physical manner.

Therefore, you not only express within you a ringing true of information which is offered, but there is also an underlying association in identification of remembering, so to speak, in physical terms, of the energy which has been expressed in other focuses. There are many individuals within your time framework presently that draw themselves to this interaction objectively within this forum that have also experienced intimacy in other focuses with the manifestations of this essence, and therefore they also hold similar responses objectively presently.

There is an emotional quality that is associated. Some individuals express an emotional quality in this focus, as they draw themselves to this forum, merely in conjunction with this focus presently. But there are many other individuals that express a very similar response to what you are expressing presently, and the reason that you are expressing this responsiveness presently, and have been, is that you allow yourself to be objectively connecting to those other focuses in which there is shared relationships, and you are allowing yourself the association in remembering of that energy, and now associating it with the energy which is presented to you once again.

Are you understanding?

JOANNE: Oh yes! I just wanted to talk to you about it because it’s really been driving me nuts! (Laughing)

ELIAS: It is quite natural as a response within physical focus, and especially within this particular dimension, in which you create emotion as a base element of your physical reality. Therefore, it is a natural expression within your energy to be associating certain remembered elements of energy in conjunction with an emotional expression.

MARJ: Elias, I think it’s really something that you made such a deep impression so many years ago!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I am....

JOANNE: I was truly disappointed to find out you were dead! I just really thought I was gonna meet you on the street! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha! And you may share this expression with several other individuals presently also (laughing) that may be quite understanding of your expression of disappointment!

MARJ: Oh well, there’s always hope!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

JOANNE: I have one more kind of dumb question about how I am doing in widening my awareness.

ELIAS: And I may express to you the inquiry of how YOU assess that you are “doing” in widening your awareness!

JOANNE: Well, sometimes I think I’m doing pretty good, and then other times, I don’t think I’ve gotten anywhere! (Laughing)

ELIAS: And I shall express to you that you are not “getting to” anywhere! This is not the point.

Therefore, do not invalidate yourself or discount yourself in those time frameworks in which you view yourself or you perceive yourself to not be moving or accomplishing, for this is not a race and you are not approaching a finish line!

You are not moving in a direction to be“getting to” some place. This is not the action of accomplishment that I speak to you of, but rather the accomplishment of acceptance of where you ARE. (Chuckling)

MARJ: Elias, could I ask you one more question?

ELIAS: You may.

MARJ: The first time we spoke, I had just lost my love, and I perceived everything to be painful, and we spoke about that and my changing my perceptions about it, and I’ve been working on that, and I was wondering if with the change in my perception, is it possible that I was able to help him to do what he needed to do, and I could look at it that way rather than just seeing it as a loss to myself?

ELIAS: You may in actuality offer yourself this allowance in perception, for I shall express to you that individuals, as they choose to be disengaging physical focus, are not entirely disassociated with the energy which is manifest in physical focus.

Therefore, it is not a situation in which an individual may choose to be disengaging from this physical reality, and they are creating a complete separation disassociation or what you may term to be cut-off point from that physical reality, and there is not created a defined separation in consciousness or in energy from that individual focus and other essences or energy, even the energy which is associated with the movement in physical dimensions.

Therefore, although your beliefs move in the expression of defining to you that once an individual creates the action of death, there is a tremendous separation in like manner to a wall being placed between that individual and the individuals that continue within physical focus, this is incorrect, for there is no wall separating within energy, for within consciousness and within essence, there is no separation. And in that recognition that there is no separation, you may view that individuals continuing within physical focus may continue to be, in a manner of speaking, affecting of the energy of individuals that have disengaged physical focus, for the energy continues to express intertwined. And as you allow for the natural flow of your energy, and as you allow yourself to loosen your hold upon your energy and be accepting of self and of the other individual and their choice, you create a similar action in energy to that which you create in conjunction with other individuals in physical focus.

Look to your physical focus and the interaction that you create with other individuals. If you are pushing your energy towards other individuals in a lack of acceptance of self and a lack of acceptance of the choices of other individuals, you create a thickness, and in this thickness of energy, there is a slowing of movement.

Now; in this, as you allow for an acceptance, you also create more of an ease and less struggle in energy, and you create this not singularly, for you do not create any movement in energy singularly, but you create this movement in conjunction with other individuals also, other essences.

Therefore, figuratively speaking, in a manner of speaking, in your allowance of self, in your altering of your perception and your acceptance of self and of the other individuals, you are creating a type of movement in energy which creates more of an ease. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you may be expressing that this may be not merely helpful to yourself, but also helpful to the other individual.

MARJ: Okay, then can I ask you something that I think might help me? The reason that he chose to disengage, was it because he didn’t want to participate in the shift? Or was it because he reached his value fulfillment? Or was it just because he couldn’t make an important decision that he needed to make where we were concerned? (Elias is coughing)

ELIAS: One moment. (Coughing)

I shall express to you that the individual has chosen to be disengaging partially in conjunction with the choice not to be participating in the expression objectively of trauma within this shift, and in that, choosing to be lending energy to this shift in consciousness, and also lending energy to you and to other individuals in your movement in the objectification of this shift in consciousness.

Therefore, the choice was created purposefully within this time framework, with the subjective knowing that as you have moved into the time framework of your new millennium, you are beginning the insertion, in objective terms, of this shift in consciousness, and the expression of that individual is to lend energy to you – in your movement, in your objectification of this shift in consciousness – not in physical terms, which allows a free flow of energy in one direction with one intent, and it may be accessed by you within energy deposits which have been placed within your area of consciousness, so to speak, and therefore, there is no obstruction of beliefs or of conflict or of trauma to be limiting the expression of energy which is offered to you. Are you understanding?

MARJ: I understand a lot better now. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

We shall be disengaging this day, for Michael is experiencing difficulty in continuing his participation within this energy exchange.

MARJ: Okie doke.

JOANNE: Alright, Elias. Thank you so much.

MARJ: Yes, thank you!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, and I extend encouragement and affection to you both, and I shall continue to be interactive with you in energy, and you may allow yourselves to be physically and emotionally incorporating that expression of energy. To you each this day, and in anticipation of our continuation of interaction, quite lovingly, au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:08 PM.

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