Thursday, July 27, 2000
“Fear Within Relationships”
“All Hope Is Not Lost!”
“The Pointy Pyramid”
Participants: Mary (Michael) and David (Mylo).
Elias arrives at 12:59 PM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds.)
ELIAS: Greetings, Mylo!
DAVID: Greetings, Elias. I didn’t think I’d be talking to you so soon! (Elias chuckles) But I guess any time me and my emotions get tripped up, then of course you’ll be hearing from me! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) I want to talk to you about the present situation I’m in, which does involve my emotions.
As you are probably aware, I connected with somebody some time back under unusual circumstances, and the connection was so strong, even before I knew who he was, just from reading a transcript. And then of course I did connect, and he felt the same energy connection, and we went back and forth with all of that until eventually he came to London, and we had three weeks together.
Up to this point, it’s been just one wonderful trip and experience of energy, and based on this, we both have verbalized that we want to continue, but this time in the physical location of California, where we want to interact in a relationship and connect with our creativity in projects.
Unlike my last relationship ... which was all one-sided, ‘cause I wanted this and I wanted that, and you said to me, “Yes, but this would depend on the other person’s choices also.” Well, in this case, it seems like he and I are both in agreement with the same choices, and I want to know more about why he and I have connected, and who he is in relation to me, and what’s gonna happen, etc.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Identify a specific direction, Mylo.
DAVID: Well, the direction being that up till now, he and I have flowed like ... it’s almost like a soul mate feeling, and it’s been wonderful, and I want to continue, and he says he wants to continue. So, we’re going to California, at least I am first, and hopefully, according to him, he will meet me there when I lay the foundation, and then continue as we have up to this point, and explore more of this connection and why we feel these things about each other.
ELIAS: And what is the nature of your concern?
DAVID: The nature of my concern is that it’s triggering a lot of doubts and fears within me, and it’s like, oh my god, I’m jumping back to somewhere I left, because I was so bored and fed up there. (Elias chuckles) And I know it’s because of him that I want to do this, and I do want to. This is one of the areas I’ve been asking you about for a long time, seeking a mate that connects with me so that we can continue and experience that, which I feel I haven’t experienced in this objective focus yet.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, Mylo, let us establish a direction in this discussion together, for what you are presenting presently is not the presentment of a direction. You are projecting energy in many directions simultaneously, and I am expressing to you that we may be focusing attention together in the direction of addressing to the expression of your concern and your fear.
You have engaged this conversation with myself in expressing several questions as to the nature of your relationship, the connections that you may hold, the issue of soul mates, and a validation as to where this particular relationship shall proceed futurely.
These are all inquiries in the direction of an expression to me of, “Elias, express to me that I am choosing the right direction. (David laughs) Validate to me that I am moving in the correct creation, and that this is the most efficient manner for me to proceed within.”
Now; you are aware, Mylo, I am not moving in the expression of offering to you a right or wrong concerning your choice.
DAVID: Yes, I am.
ELIAS: These are your choices, and I also shall not offer you information as to, “Will this relationship move in the manner of my desire futurely?” For this also is a probability and your choice, and YOU are in command of your direction. I am not in command of your direction.
Therefore, let us turn the attention from this type of questioning, which matters not anyway, for as I have stated, these are all your choices and what you choose to be creating, and I may be expressing any response to you, and you shall create what you create regardless of what I express to you. (David laughs)
Therefore, let us turn the discussion in addressing to the identification of your concern and your fear, for this is the expression that is affecting of you presently. May you identify – and have you identified – elements of your fear in this situation?
DAVID: Have I?
DAVID: Well, I don’t know. That’s kind of a hard one ‘cause I kind of sense that maybe I have, but it’s almost like I’m not sure if I’m just repeating what I’ve done so many times before in this situation.
ELIAS: And what is the identification of your repetitive behavior that creates a fear within you?
DAVID: Well, I guess ... I know it has to do with trust in self, and in the other person maybe.
ELIAS: What have you repeated within your focus that you fear repeating again?
DAVID: That I’m gonna be let down.
ELIAS: That you shall engage in a relationship with another individual, and that you shall be disappointed.
ELIAS: Therefore, the nature of the fear is disappointment.
ELIAS: Now; what motivates the disappointment?
DAVID: What motivates the disappointment....
ELIAS: I am moving in a very specific direction with you, that you may allow yourself objectively to understand you and familiarize yourself with you, and this shall be helpful to you in addressing to your movement.
Your fear is not created by the other individual. Your disappointment is not created by the other individual’s choices or behavior, for another individual does not create your reality.
Therefore, in turning your attention to self, we look to the identification of what YOU are creating within self that creates this expression of disappointment, and in the identification of your disappointment, you may also address to the expression of the fear, for the disappointment is creating the fear.
Therefore, first we shall identify, what is the nature of your disappointment? Remove the element of the other individual and the other individual’s choices and behaviors, and attempt to identify now, what is the nature of your disappointment within self?
DAVID: Disappointment that maybe I can’t come up with the goods? ‘Cause I don’t think it’s about him.
ELIAS: It is not.
DAVID: Exactly. I mean, the only thing that I think ... I’m trying to figure this out. Usually I don’t allow myself the full circle of experience to discover anything. Therefore, I get frustrated. It’s like I end up just taking a bite of the apple, when I want to eat all of the apple as well. I never allow myself to finish the apple.
DAVID: Why? I don’t know. Because I’m ... I don’t know. I really don’t know! (Laughing)
ELIAS: How do you present yourself to yourself?
DAVID: Well, I guess ... I don’t know. Maybe I don’t ... and I’ve said this before. I guess if I think of it that way, maybe I don’t like myself.
ELIAS: The nature of your disappointment is a response in validation. You project your attention outside of self to be acquiring your validation of self.
Now; validation of self may be acquired not necessarily in accomplishment, but also in what you view as failure. As your beliefs influence your perception of self, and you exhibit an uncomfortableness within self and a lack of acceptance within self, you project that energy outwardly.
Now; if another individual expresses choices in relation to you that they wish not to be engaging in relationship with you or continuing in relationship with you, this is an expression of validation of the influence of your beliefs that you already hold.
DAVID: Right. I understand that part.
ELIAS: Your expectation objectively is that you shall engage in a relationship with another individual, and they shall provide you with the positive validation that you are not providing within self. This is the expectation, and in the event that that expectation is not met, so to speak, the disappointment is created.
The anticipation of the disappointment is the creation of the fear. The fear is continuous and ongoing, underlying all of your movements in interaction with other individuals, for there is a continuous anticipation of the expression of disappointment.
Even within relationships that you create that you perceive objectively to be offering you the type of validation that you seek and therefore meeting your expectation, you also incorporate the underlying fear in anticipation that within any moment, that may alter, and the other individual may turn and their expression may be different, and therefore create the disappointment once again.
Now; your fear in what you have expressed objectively is that you wish not to be creating the action that you have repeatedly created pastly within your focus, and that is the materialization of your disappointment, and this is the identification of the ongoing expression of fear.
In this, as you look to the outside elements, you become overwhelmed with the fear, for you are viewing another individual – that individual’s choices, that individual’s attention, preferences, behaviors, expressions – and you are viewing all of these elements of another individual in relation to yourself. You are also viewing the “entity” of a relationship, which becomes almost an expression of a thing outside of you also.
Now; in this, you incorporate many, many, many different expressions that hold the potential for disappointment, for they are all elements outside of you.
In addressing to the fear and allowing yourself the freedom of movement outside of the fear, turn your attention to self and allow yourself to identify the nature of your disappointment and what motivates that expression.
What are you creating within self? What is your identification of self – your assessment and your measure of self and your abilities – that is influencing the perception which creates the reality of the disappointment? The identification of the motivating aspects of the disappointment is how you perceive you.
DAVID: The thing is, with these fears and what you’ve just said and all that, if I actually allowed my fears to overwhelm me, I wouldn’t be making the decision to move forward and continue on with my desire to continue in a relationship, or at least to try it out and move to California. I would have abandoned those. So, I’m actually working against those fears so they don’t destroy the probability of this.
ELIAS: Partially, but let me also express to you that the aspect of belief concerning fear is quite widely held en masse, in the expression of being an exhibition of strength to be creating choices and objective movement through the waters of fear: “Pay no attention to your fear. Plunge yourself anyway.” This does not dispel the fear. The fear continues.
It may be overridden, so to speak, temporarily in some expressions, for you are choosing to create actions objectively in what you term to be “in spite of the fear,” but it is not a movement in addressing to the fear. Therefore, although the fear may be moved aside temporarily, it continues in its existence and shall move itself in another avenue of expression.
DAVID: So all hope is lost, so to speak! (Laughing)
ELIAS: No! I am not expressing this to you, Mylo. I am....
DAVID: Isn’t that what you just said? (Laughing)
ELIAS: I am expressing to you that in this, as you offer yourself the opportunity to view self and what motivates your fear, you DO allow yourself the opportunity to dispel the expression of the fear; not merely to move over the fear and continue in its expression futurely, but to address to it in viewing its motivating factors.
DAVID: Hmm. When we talk, he seems pretty positive, and says he has no doubts about entering into this relationship with me.
ELIAS: But you exhibit doubts. What are the nature of your doubts?
DAVID: The nature of my doubt is, does he mean what he says?
ELIAS: Ah! Once again, projecting outward to another individual, and what is the motivating factor in this? The individual, in your terms, is meaning of what they are expressing. You ALL express yourselves in meaning, in your terms, what you are expressing.
Why shall you seek out hidden expressions within this individual? Why shall you not accept what the individual is expressing to you without doubt? What motivates your doubt? Is your doubt motivated in objective manner, that this individual has expressed many times to you different types of actions or expressions that you view to be less than genuine?
DAVID: Up till now, no.
ELIAS: Therefore, what exhibition has this individual offered to you to be creating, in objective manner, your doubtfulness?
DAVID: I think it was more ... I didn’t seem to have any of these issues when we were in each other’s company, and it’s just the fact that since he has gone back and time has elapsed, it seems to me that he has kind of disappeared from my physical reality, although I know objectively it’s issues with myself in this area, so I am working on those, but that’s where it comes from.
ELIAS: And this is another aspect of fear, in the guise of control.
DAVID: I have sensed that also, and I have been aware that this could be an issue, and I don’t want to feel that I am in control in those areas, if you know what I mean, because I don’t want to control my mate. I want the same freedom for them as myself.
ELIAS: Ah, but this is the point. You are not offering the freedom to yourself!
It is not a question of controlling your partner, for you do not hold this ability to be controlling of another individual. It is an aspect of your fear in relation to yourself. You do not feel that you are exhibiting control of your choices, of your focus, of your environment, if it is not objectively present.
DAVID: Right; correct.
ELIAS: This is not a situation of controlling another individual. It is an identification of your feeling of a lack of control within self concerning other individuals and situations.
Your identification of disappointment also moves in the expression of your measure of self and your ability, which is a direct expression of your perception of worth of self, which is the expression of your acceptance and trust of self.
As you look to another individual for objective validation of you in the assessment of your worth, you are creating an expectation which creates the potential for the expression of disappointment within self.
In this, you continue to perpetuate that type of movement even in the expression of what you objectively identify as successfulness in the relationship, for as I have stated, there continues to be an ongoing anticipation of the possibility that this objective validation that you are receiving outwardly may cease.
The point is that you allow yourself to recognize and acknowledge your worth, your abilities within self, and not be attempting to acquire these measurements from outside of self, for they are merely a camouflage in your reception of them, as you appear to acquire them from outside of yourself.
DAVID: I sometimes feel, though – and I’ve always felt this – that having a mate that was being supportive while I walk down that road, rather than walking down that road into myself, by myself, that it’s so much easier when you have someone at least being supportive while you do this.
ELIAS: And I am understanding of what you are expressing, for this is essentially a very similar action, in your identification, that many other individuals engage in their interaction with myself.
ELIAS: They establish a relationship with myself and interact with myself to be receiving what they identify as a supportiveness and an outside validation temporarily,to the point that they allow themselves to be validating of self and trusting and accepting of self.
Therefore, I am not discounting of your movement in this direction, and I shall be acknowledging of you that you are allowing yourself the recognition of what you are creating in that type of movement – that you are temporarily drawing upon the expressions of acceptance and trust of another individual in your process and movement into your own expression of trust and acceptance. This is not bad or wrong. It is merely a choice of process or method, which you all engage in different expressions.
In this, you are correct. You may be allowing yourself more of an ease in receiving or allowing yourself to be receiving supportiveness and validation from another individual as you move in addressing to your own expressions of fear and lack of trust. But do not lose sight, so to speak, of your motivating forces within you. The point is to be turning your attention to you; not to the exclusion of other individuals, but not to be engaging in relationship to the exclusion of yourself either.
DAVID: Okay. So is that what this is all about? It has nothing to do with my draw to him and my desire to have a relationship with him, and vice versa?
ELIAS: No, I am not expressing this either. You do experience a draw, and I have participated in discussion with this individual previously concerning this subject matter, and in this, I may express to you also that you allow yourself the acknowledgment of your impressions and your draw. This is reality. You are creating movement through your choice to be responding to a draw that you hold in relation to each other, and this is quite real.
You have shared in several other focuses together. You do create relationships with each other. You are experiencing an allowance of recognition of other activity that you participate within in relation to each other. I am not discounting of any of these factors of what you are allowing presently in this focus in relation to each other, which is influencing of your draw to each other, and I am not discouraging of you in your choice to be acting upon that draw.
I may express to you an acknowledgment that you each are allowing yourselves to create choices in relation to each other regardless of the expressions of mass belief systems, which offer less than encouraging energy in this particular direction, shall we say. (Chuckling) Therefore....
DAVID: I do feel a very strong connection, and a lot of affection for him.
ELIAS: And I am acknowledging of this, and why shall you not proceed?
DAVID: Alright. (Pause) Is Opan a thought or emotionally focused individual? (15-second pause)
ELIAS: In actuality, I may express to you that this individual is neither.
DAVID: (Laughing) So what does that make him?
ELIAS: This individual may be identified as religiously focused.
DAVID: Religiously focused? Oh my.
ELIAS: In this, this is not the expression of religion or any type of identification of any religious affiliations or associations as expressed through religious belief systems. This is an identification in similar manner to thought or emotional focus.
There are actually four types of personality focuses within your physical dimension: thought, emotion, religious, and political.
For the most part, individuals create a manifestation with the quality of thought or emotional focus. There are less individuals manifest that express the other two types of focus, but there are in actuality four, not merely these two.
DAVID: One was religious, and what was the other one?
DAVID: Oh, political. Yeah, I’ve read about that in some of the older transcripts. It kind of makes him a bit rare, ‘cause in these sessions, people have asked you, “Is this person emotional or thought focused?” and very few have received this answer.
ELIAS: You are correct.
Now; I may express to you that individuals incorporating this type of focus may express emotion in objective exhibition more freely or more frequently than shall an individual which is thought focused, but they also are not intaking and outputting information through this particular mechanism, so to speak. An emotionally focused individual engages the mechanism of that emotional focus to be inputting and outputting information.
DAVID: I see. (Pause) Going back to this new relationship, I also get the impression that we are going to be helpful to each other.
ELIAS: And if you are allowing yourselves the openness to be receiving, yes, you shall.
DAVID: Okay, ‘cause we’ve already picked up on that, and it’s been quite fun really, to be aware of that.
ELIAS: And may also present you with interesting challenges!
DAVID: With what?
ELIAS: Interesting challenges!
DAVID: Oh! (Laughing) Yes, I’ve also been presenting myself with that knowing too! (Elias laughs) But in some strange way, I guess I’m moving towards accepting that, or at least throwing myself into the challenge of that, I guess. It’s a way for me to say, well, I know there’s no good and bad, but it’s like, just as an example, if the good outweighs the bad, then who cares about the bad? (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) But anyway....
ELIAS: I shall be continuing to be encouraging of you, Mylo, for you are allowing yourself to be moving into an expression of addressing to this creation of fear that you have incorporated for much time framework, and in this, you are creating choices that are allowing you to view different aspects of your fear objectively, and you may be creating this action in relationship with this individual.
DAVID: Okay, thank you very much. Well, let’s move on to the next question I’ve got here.
The past few weeks, I’ve been experiencing – I’m experiencing it right now as I speak to you – a regular, strange sensation in the upper central part of my chest area, and I would say it’s directly placed where an energy center is located, maybe. The sensation is kind of like a gentle flutter, which triggers a kind of a weakness momentarily in my energy, and I’m wondering what this is all about.
ELIAS: This also is an expression which is related to this element of fear.
DAVID: Okay, I did think that.
ELIAS: It is created in relation to your increase in tension in certain moments.
DAVID: In tension?
DAVID: Okay, I’ll work on that.
I was curious to know, in Shynla’s last session, you said, “I may express to you that Mylo manipulates energy quite well, and Mylo is projecting of energy quite strongly, and presently, within this time framework now, Mylo is projecting energy outwardly quite strongly.” I was curious to know what that all meant.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Let me express to you, Mylo, this is not the identification of any element or expression that holds negativity. It is merely an identification of your ability to be manipulating energy, which you do hold a strength in your ability to be projecting energy and manipulating energy. This requires no thought within you, and no effort. You merely allow yourself to be projecting your energy outwardly in responsiveness to situations.
In that particular situation, I was addressing to Shynla and interacting with Shynla, and in that interaction with Shynla, you automatically create a projection of energy and manipulate energy in a manner to be penetrating with Shynla’s energy.
DAVID: Okay, I understand.
ELIAS: In this, your underlying motivation is to be expressing supportiveness, but in a knowing of Shynla’s energy and Shynla’s automatic responses – subjectively and objectively – that energy interference may be projected in supportiveness, but Shynla shall receive that energy and incorporate that as a distraction, for Shynla, in certain situations, allows many types of energies to be incorporated as an excuse for distraction, for it is less uncomfortable than a direct interaction with myself, in exchanges that she views to be uncomfortable.
DAVID: Okay, I understand. One quick question that a friend asked me to ask you. Lucy, who had a session with you here in London, she called me the other day and asked me to ask you, could you offer her orientation? (20-second pause)
ELIAS: Orientation of this individual, common.
DAVID: Okay, that’s what I thought.
I had my second UFO dream the other day. It was very much like the first dream I had, when you told me about it being symbolic of the pyramid group and the shift. The second dream that I had the other night, I’d like to quickly tell you about.
I found myself in the city somewhere, and there was a glimmer in the sky that caught my attention, and I looked up, and this square tube-like object was slowing spinning across the sky. All of a sudden, it triggered within me a fear of something that I really knew was going to happen. I told everybody in the street, “Look, look, look!” And they all looked and they all saw what I was seeing, and I picked up what they were fearing, and I thought, “Oh my god, something drastic is going to happen.”
With that, I heard a big voice in the sky talk to everybody, and all I could hear, out of all that was said, was the one word that stuck in my mind, the word “Russian.” Followed by that were four missiles that came shooting out of the sky, and there, hidden in amongst the buildings, was this huge rocket, and the four missiles made their way into this huge rocket, and I thought, “Oh my god, this rocket is now going to destroy the earth. We must run and hide.” But I knew there was nowhere to hide and nobody was going to escape this, and I ended the dream by saying, “Please God, make this quick and painless,” and then I woke up.
ELIAS: And what is your impression in association with this dream imagery?
DAVID: Well, before this session, it had to do with the four points, and that something was moving within this group and the phenomenon, and that more energy was being lent to the fifth point maybe, and that soon, in my movement, something was going to ... I don’t know. It was something along those lines, and had to do with the shift.
ELIAS: And what be your impression now?
DAVID: Well, now I think it has to do with fear issues.
ELIAS: And I shall express to you that within different layers of this dream imagery, you are correct in both impressions.
DAVID: Okay, so is the fear related to the subjective picking up of the shift, or to my personal issues, or both?
DAVID: Okay. Is the group, the pyramid group, is something moving within them, or is it still the same as it has always been?
ELIAS: I shall express to you, as I have expressed previously, each point in your objective identification is, in a manner of speaking, a focal point, a representative of this concept of pyramid, so to speak.
I shall also express to you that each point is creating movement in relation to this shift in addressing to individual beliefs and issues, so to speak – in a manner of speaking, pushing through some of these expressions and creating a thrust – which as I have stated, creates the focal point and representation of the movement which is occurring within this shift in consciousness within ALL of your reality.
Within physical reality, let me express to you, Mylo, it is quite helpful to all of you that you allow yourselves to view an objective example, so to speak, of certain movements. You allow yourselves to view objective examples of movement within this shift in many, many areas of your reality. But you also view that it is helpful to you that you allow yourselves the presentation of a focal point, a representative of certain actions that all of the other individuals are also participating within. This be the reason that you create figureheads, so to speak, within your reality.
These points of this pyramid, in a manner of speaking, are in agreement to be presenting themselves in this fashion – you also – as representatives of the movement of this shift, that other individuals may incorporate as an example of different types of movements and engaging different aspects of movement in relation to belief systems that you are allowing yourselves to move into acceptance with. Are you understanding?
DAVID: Well, kind of. It’s been difficult to hear your voice for the last few minutes, so I missed a lot of that, but I’m sure I’ll get it when I read it and hear it on the cassette.
ELIAS: Very well.
DAVID: Going back to this other person, I also get the impression that our interaction will be, for many people who view it, an example of some sort too, which is, I think, part of our energy expression in helpfulness, in lending additional movement to the shift.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
DAVID: Okay, because I do feel a lot of him in me, and vice versa, where we do hold an element of fun and playfulness.
ELIAS: Yes, although I may express to you that you also incorporate a tremendous expression of seriousness, Mylo! (Grinning)
DAVID: (Laughing) Well, it might be the age difference!
ELIAS: Ah, the incorporation of another aspect of beliefs! Ha ha!
DAVID: I know what you mean, but I just feel that I’ve been locked into that one much longer than he has! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) Oh well, I do enjoy his company, and I feel a lot of soothing energy when I’m with him, and that’s something I haven’t experienced for so long, so it is welcoming and refreshing.
ELIAS: And I continue to be encouraging of you in your exploration and in your adventure! (Chuckling)
DAVID: Thank you very, very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. (Chuckling)
DAVID: Well, Elias, I’ll let you go now, and I do appreciate this talk with you.
ELIAS: I continue to be available to you, Mylo, and I also continue to be offering energy to you in encouragement and supportiveness.
DAVID: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I express to you tremendous affection, and anticipate our continued interaction.
DAVID: Me also.
ELIAS: To you this day, in great lovingness, au revoir.
DAVID: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 2:02 PM.
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