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Thursday, January 11, 2001

<  Session 755 (Private/Phone)  >

“Exploring Energy Centers”

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Joe (Holden).

Vic’s note: Elias was very careful and deliberate throughout this session, so I will just note that here rather than add comments.

Elias arrives at 11:19 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JOE: Good morning, Elias. (Elias chuckles) A while back, you and I had a session and I asked you about my back, and you pretty much told me about my balance and about chakras. I had kind of set that aside for a while because I’ve been so busy, and then I finally got around to it, and now I’ve become fascinated with chakras. So, for the next couple of sessions, if you don’t mind, I’d like to ask you about chakras.

ELIAS: Very well, and how shall we proceed?

JOE: I understand that the direction of spin is clockwise, correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOE: Now, what I don’t understand is, do they spin on a horizontal axis relative to the spine, or are they spherical and they spin in a spherical motion, like geometrically they’re a sphere? Or doesn’t it really matter? I’m just kind of confused about the actual physiology of the placement of these things and their actual geometric shape.

ELIAS: Correct. In this, I may express to you that these energy centers may be visualized in a spherical form. This may be the most efficient manner in which you may allow yourself to visualize and engage these energy centers, in like manner to a ball, so to speak.

The energy centers are a concentration of energy which you create in specific areas of your physical body consciousness that direct energy in relation to certain functions and movements of the physical body consciousness that you create in the physical manifestation in this dimension.

Now; each of these energy centers may be viewed in the core of its concentration as a sphere, and they radiate energy outwardly from that core of spherical energy, so to speak. The direction of the motion of these energy centers moves not in the direction of the spine, so to speak, but crossing the direction of the spine.

JOE: In other words, the axis of the rotation would be the spine?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

JOE: Okay. Now, can almost all healing be affected through the manipulation of these energy centers? (10-second pause)


JOE: Exactly how or in what way ... I’m not doing very good at asking this question. How do you access these energy centers, and how do you physically or mentally cause the manipulation necessary for the healing? Is there a specific set of guidelines that you can give me to be able to visualize, access, and control these energy centers?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, these energy centers are not entities in themselves that are not an aspect of you, in a manner of speaking.

I am aware that within the physical thought association that each of you create in relation to your reality in this physical dimension, you automatically move into an association of viewing different aspects of yourselves as entities and things in themselves, in a manner of speaking.

For example, you view your physical body to be an expression of you, but you also automatically separate, for this is the design of your physical dimension, to be separating. And in that separation, you view yourself or what you identify as the essence of you – your personality, your mind, that which is identifiable as the core makeup, so to speak, of yourself – as being some expression without form that is challenging to allow yourself an actual physical identification of.

In this, you view your body as somewhat separated from that core expression of you, and in this, you view many different aspects of your body – your organs, your muscles, your bones, your tissue – as once again yet another separation, in that each of these aspects of your physical body are contained within a structure of a physical form, but each of these aspects of that physical form is a thing in itself also, and therefore separate.

Now; in like manner to these automatic associations that you create in relation to your physical body, as you move your attention to an identification of energy centers, you create the same type of association within your thoughts and your identification of them, viewing them to be a physical manifestation or an entity in itself holding a particular function; which in a manner of speaking, this is correct, but it is also misinterpreted somewhat.

For as you create that type of an association, you separate yourself from these energy centers, and approach them and your interaction with them as though they are things in themselves that you may be manipulating in particular methods, as you would manipulate the movement of an object that you perceive to be outside of your physical body.

What I am expressing to you is, the difficulty and the challenge that is presented in this type of association is that you approach each of these energy centers in similar manner to how you may approach a ball – that you view to be an object outside of yourself – and your manipulation of its movement, that if you are pushing the ball in a certain manner physically, it shall move in a particular direction.

If you are interacting with this object in a different method, you shall create a different type of action or effect. You may roll the ball by interacting with it in a particular method and design of energy. You may bounce the ball by creating a different type of action, which is a different method. You may toss the ball. There are many different movements that you can create with this object that you view as interactions and methods of movement that affect different expressions, so to speak, of the object.

Now; in relation to viewing energy centers, as you approach your interaction with these energy centers and you are associating with them in a similar manner to the ball – outside of yourself, so to speak – you may be in actuality affecting much less of the movement or the instruction of those energy centers than you shall be if you are allowing yourself to recognize that these energy centers may be associated with you in the same manner that you associate your identification of yourself as you – that undefinable, formless aspect of you or expression of you associated with your personality and your perception, which you automatically express and need no thought process or direction through thought to enact its function.

Are you following thus far?

JOE: Somewhat.

ELIAS: Very well.

Let me express to you, I may offer to you the identification of these energy centers and express to you that you may visually view them in a type of form, for this is an association that is familiar to you.

You associate with aspects of your reality through what is known to you in this objective physical experience and dimension, correct?

JOE: Correct.

ELIAS: I may not express to you the identification of some aspect of reality that does not fit within the objective physical associations that are known and familiar to you, for you shall incorporate a lack of objective understanding and recognition of that information.

Therefore, [I am] recognizing that you have created a specific physical dimension in which all of your objective recognition, understanding, and knowing is associated with that which may be viewed through the physicality of your dimension.

In this, as I recognize that this is the design of your physical dimension and the design and blueprint of the function of your objective awareness, I offer to you explanations and definitions of certain aspects of your creations that may be translated into physical associations. This lends to the objective assimilation and understanding of your interaction with certain aspects of what you create, which may not necessarily be physical expressions of consciousness or of energy.

Now; in this, I may express to you an identification of an energy center in physical terms as a sphere and [as] creating specific functions and movement in specific directions, but the point that I am expressing to you now in relation to these energy centers is that they are not manifestations of your expression of energy that need be directed through objective thought or an actual physical manipulation of energy.

A physical manipulation of energy that you create may be to move your physical legs to accomplish the action of walking. Although for the most part it is unnecessary for you to engage a thought to be directing of that movement, you may at times create a thought to be directing of that type of movement, and it shall be expressed in the same manner as it is expressed without the thought.

In relation to your energy centers, in a manner of speaking, you are manipulating a physical action of movement. But in another manner of speaking, you are creating a direction which is offered to the energy centers which automatically and precisely follow that direction which is expressed subjectively, not necessarily through thought.

Now; I may express to you, you may engage thought and you may manipulate energy in a physical manner to be affecting of the movement of these energy centers, but the affectingness of the movement of them shall be much less in that type of action than it shall be in allowing the natural subjective communication and direction to them.

Now; you are inquiring of specific methods in how you may be interactive with these energy centers and be affecting of them.

In this, I have spoken to individuals previously in association with the movement and affectingness of certain energy centers.

As I offer information to individuals, you may be noticing and recognizing that my interaction with individuals shall also be associated with information concerning their perception and their beliefs in what they are creating, for these aspects of their expression are quite influencing of how they shall be affecting of the movement of these energy centers.

For the mechanics of what is occurring in the movement of your energy centers is that your subjective awareness is offering specific direction to each of these energy centers in relation to all that you are creating within your reality.

Therefore, as you are aware, your subjective awareness engages beliefs as does your objective awareness, for these are an integral aspect of this physical reality.

In this, as your objective and subjective awarenesses move in harmony, incorporating many forms of communication between them, you create movements and direction which is expressed through these energy centers. Some of those directions may be involving the physical performance or function of your physical body. Some of these directions which are expressed to the energy centers create other manifestations.

The energy centers are the energy expression, or physical manifestation in this physical dimension, of the essence of you. They are the expression of consciousness, translated into physical dimension, which are in actuality the essence expression of you in physical form, so to speak. Therefore, all that is created within your physical reality, in the physical aspect of it, is expressed and manifest through the projection of energy from these centers.

Are you understanding?

JOE: I think so. I think I have a glimmer of it, but as you already know, I can be pretty dense sometimes!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

JOE: Basically, I think in a nutshell – and you can tell me if I’m right or wrong – these energy centers, or their dynamics, I should say, are a function of subjective understanding, and they really aren’t influenced that much by attempts at objective manipulation. Is that correct?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

Now; I may express to you, they are affected somewhat through an objective manipulation or through what you term to be objective methods. You may be somewhat affecting of them, or affecting of their movement.

As an example, I may express to you that you may allow yourself to physically visualize any particular energy center [and] recognize the color vibration that is expressed and associated with that particular energy center. You may be noticing of its physical rotation and radiation of energy, and you may choose objectively to be manipulating that movement by expressing an objective suggestion or direction to that particular energy center, and you shall notice that it shall follow your objective direction and therefore alter its physical movement. But the affectingness of that direction shall be expressed, in the recognition of your objective awareness, in much less of a capacity than it shall be as you allow the direction from the subjective awareness.

Now; in this, let me offer to you an example that may offer you more of an objective clarity in relation to this type of interaction and affectingness. Let me express to you that you may allow yourself to visualize your energy center which is physically located within the solar plexus. You may allow yourself to physically view the incorporation of the vibrational quality in color of yellow. Therefore, you may view a yellow sphere radiating this energy, so to speak, which expresses itself in relation to that yellow vibrational expression.

Now; in this, you may notice objectively, as you are viewing this particular energy center, that it may be radiating energy quite extensively. In physical terms, you may view the energy radiating from this core sphere as extending beyond your physical body and outwardly from your physical body in a considerable extension in actual physical measurement, so to speak, that which you commonly measure in inches and feet, so to speak.

Now; as you view this extensive radiation of energy, you may objectively express a direction to this particular energy center, and the direction may be to retreat that energy radiation closer to the core sphere, and the energy center shall respond, and you may in actuality physically view this expression of yellow energy moving or receding closer to your physical body and receding within your physical body to the point that it may be contained in a closer, tighter, so to speak, proximity to the core sphere, in a manner of speaking.

Understand that these are objective physical expressions that I am offering to you, that you may allow yourself an association that offers you an understanding.

In that action, you have offered a direction to the energy center in physical expression, and it has responded and created the manifestation of that direction. But what you have affected is merely a physical manipulation of how that energy center may be expressing energy in physical terms. You have not necessarily affected the actual function of what that energy center is creating, or what it is expressing in actual physical creation within your reality.

Now; let us express in this example that what the yellow energy center in that time framework may be expressing and projecting to your avenues of communication and to your perception – and therefore influencing your perception to be creating an actual physical reality – may be an expression of confusion.

Therefore you, in your expression of your reality through your perception, are creating an actual manifestation within yourself, and also outwardly in your reality, of confusion.

JOE: That’s pretty normal for me!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! (Joe cracks up) Ha ha ha! Now....

JOE: I didn’t mean to interrupt! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

In this, as you direct objectively a movement of this energy center and it alters its physical expression, the physical expression or FEELING that you notice within your objective awareness may slightly subside, in a manner of speaking, but it shall not create an action in which you eliminate that confusion. You are merely altering your objective interaction with it.

As you allow yourself to incorporate or to use your objective awareness to recognize and define what you are actually creating through the movements of these energy centers and through your subjective communications, you automatically create a communication from the objective to the subjective, and in that, you shall create much more of an affectingness of the direction of these energy centers.

In a manner of speaking, it is a difference of expressing a communication through many different channels, and creating a communication which interacts directly with the source.

JOE: Which is the subjective self.

ELIAS: Correct.

And the manner in which the objective creates its communications in relation to the subjective is allowing itself, so to speak – for this is in actuality you – an understanding, a recognition, and a defining of what you are creating. And the manner in which the objective awareness creates those definitions and understandings is – in the circle of yourself – listening to and translating the subjective communications, which are expressed through physical affectingnesses, emotion, through impressions, impulses, intuition. These are subjective communications.

The most obvious communications that you offer to yourselves from the subjective awareness to the objective awareness are those of emotion and physical expressions, physical affectingnesses in relation to your body consciousness. These are communications that you offer to your objective awareness that contain information, which I have been expressing to other individuals also recently, and in....

JOE: Are we talking about subjects that are directly influenced by the yellow energy center?

ELIAS: This is the example that we are incorporating in this now, but the manner in which these energy centers function is the same within them all.

JOE: Elias, this to me is fascinating, and this conversation that we’ve had this morning just opens up a million new questions (Elias laughs) that I have. I promised Mary that I would end this session at a certain time, and I’m chafing at the bit here, but....

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! We shall continue, my friend! (Laughing)

JOE: Yes. I have another appointment on Sunday, and I’d like to pick this up where we left off.

ELIAS: Very well, and so we shall. There is in actuality much information which may be offered in relation to this subject matter.

JOE: And I appreciate it. Again, I really want to thank you for this interaction.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall be anticipating our continuation in our discussion. To you in tremendous affection, au revoir.

JOE: Take care.

Elias departs at 12:10 PM.

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