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Monday, August 13, 2001

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“Agreements within Consciousness”

“Restlessness and Frustration in Young People”

Participants: Mary (Michael) and John (Rrussell).

Elias arrives at 11:10 AM. (Arrival time is 30 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JOHN: Good morning, indeed. (Elias chuckles) Well, I am here for a session today. It’s been delayed twice for a reason, injury, so on and so forth, and to be honest, I don’t have a lot of questions with me. I mean, I first did, and this time don’t even have them with me; but I guess I have some things I can bring up for a session.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOHN: Let me start off with actual questions ... I had a great time last night! Fun time! What is the essence and alignment of this girl, Shannon? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Shahw, S-H-A-H-W (SHAW). Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Zuli. (Pause)

JOHN: Her alignment?

ELIAS: Zuli.

JOHN: Okay, that’s very interesting. Orientation, common?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOHN: At least I got that much. Interesting! Shared focus, being married?

ELIAS: Once, yes.

JOHN: Am I correct?


JOHN: Let me try to put it at a date if you like, or a timeframe. Sort of looks a bit colonial – I’d say a bit American – 1700s, U.S., New England?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOHN: Good stuff! Chap, Lenny, he is soft orientation?


JOHN: Let’s see here. Right, well, we talked about my ladder imagery and so forth last time. There was ladder imagery, and it’s not my current movement creating or moving the imagery to the feeling of more ladders, as it were?

ELIAS: And your question?

JOHN: Is it not?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, for you present yourself with challenges in striving to be attaining different levels once again.

JOHN: There was a test I had to take in order to go and do this course of study, and I took the verbal part and to me that was really easy. There was a second part, the mathematics part. Now, I’ve studied quite a lot of mathematics and I fancy myself really good at mathematics, but for some reason it presented quite a challenge. It was really difficult for reasons that were quite a bit odd then. I’m not quite sure – why was it so difficult for me?

ELIAS: What is your impression?

JOHN: I think some of it had to do with relaxation, but there was another bit, it seemed sort of out of line. It’s not quite my thing, and I had to really force myself to think in such a fashion. It’s not a natural sort of movement for me.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall express to you, you are partially correct in your assessment concerning relaxation. Also, you are allowing yourself to be expanding your awareness and therefore allowing yourself a beginning in movement to be expanding your creativity. Therefore, as you present to yourself certain actions or activities that are quite familiar and comfortable to you, you experience challenge, for you are allowing yourself to move into new expressions of creativity. Therefore, your attention is moving into different areas, and as you move your attention back, so to speak, to those areas that are quite familiar, they become less familiar. Are you understanding?

JOHN: Quite, yes. That’s very interesting. One of the questions I had potentially written down but don’t have with me has to do with this expansion, so-called. I feel, at least recently, I feel a lot less crazy about – what’s the word – I feel a lot less interested, almost, thinking about the sessions, as it were. When things come to me, or I should say, I don’t feel immediately ... there are other days as much as recently ... well, this session is not so interesting to me. It has something to do with expansion or veil dropping.

ELIAS: Yes, in a manner of speaking, for this also is a movement of your attention in allowing yourself to explore self and your individual movement and desires, [and] in this allowing yourself to stand upon the threshold, so to speak, of discovery of more of your creativity and opening to more of your choices.

Let me express to you, Rrussell, in this it is quite commonly expressed within individuals as they begin moving their attention to self and the exploration and discovery of self in creating their relationship with themselves that expressions or events outside of self become less interesting for a time framework, for your attention is not focused in this area. Although, I may also express to you that within this present now your attention is divided, for partially you are projecting your attention outwardly and partially you are allowing yourself to be paying attention to self.

JOHN: But partially I’m not.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOHN: I’m curious about this, what’s it called ... oh, I’m going to have to move a little bit, a really noisy noise. What was I curious about? I wish I had notes. Intent, we were talking about previously, last time. Does that imply certain expansion through the intent?

ELIAS: Quite!

JOHN: It’s almost a non-question. (Elias laughs) We’re talking about dropping the veils, and we’re talking about so-called expansion. What does that entail in specific detail, examples, what does that mean?

ELIAS: In relation to which example?

JOHN: In relation to concrete examples. I mean, what does this dropping veils, what does this expansion which is through my intent, what does that mean?

ELIAS: Very well. Offer to myself a specific example, and I shall illustrate with that example.

JOHN: I got this idea recently about this projection business, out of body whatnot, and it was quite interesting for a time. I thought about it and then I didn’t think about it after all, I was just coming up bored playing with it. But all right, talk about it in terms of this out of body bit.

ELIAS: Very well. As you allow yourself to be creating a projection in consciousness, as you examine your initial motivation, you are creating an avenue for exploration which is an expansion of your awareness which moves in alignment with your expansion of your exploration and discoveries within your individual movement. But within YOUR movement, an aspect of your exploration concerns viewing and discovering your individual abilities and, in a manner of speaking, testing your accomplishments in relation to your abilities.

Now; in this, you create an allowance of yourself to be expressing these projections. Once you have allowed yourself, in your perception, to successfully accomplish the action of projecting your awareness through consciousness, and you validate yourself that you have explored your ability in this particular movement, you choose to discontinue that action, for your attention is not focused in alignment with your intent in the direction of continued exploration of one particular movement or subject matter.

In this, your attention more moves in the expression of the discovery of your abilities in themselves, not necessarily in the continued expression of those abilities for a particular purpose, but merely to be allowing yourself a validation of your abilities in themselves and what you may accomplish and how you may manipulate your energy to be affecting certain actions. This is the manner in which you allow yourself to be widening your awareness and expanding your reality and your field of exploration, so to speak.

JOHN: Interesting. What are the rest of the abilities?

ELIAS: You incorporate countless abilities, my friend, and may challenge yourself in ANY direction in relation to what you create and how you create it within your individual reality. There are no limits.

JOHN: Now, I read the sessions and people talk about things called agreements. Do I have any of these agreement-type things?

ELIAS: Let me express to you my friend, this subject matter of agreements many times is misinterpreted or objectively misunderstood. For within your beliefs in your physical dimension, you create specific associations with agreements, and in this you define agreements as an action which incorporates more than one individual or more than one aspect of consciousness. In this, your association with the term “agreement” is that you may choose an action in a particular subject matter in relation to another aspect of consciousness and that in the agreement you both choose to be creating a particular specific movement or action, and you view this within your definition of agreements as some action that you incorporate and then subsequently effect a manifestation of that action.

You also associate agreements in an objective manner. Therefore, regardless of your ideas of whether an agreement may be objective or subjective, your association with this term is quite strongly objective. Therefore, it is interpreted more solid than actually is created within consciousness, for as...

JOHN: Like intent.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, although intent is demonstrated within objective movement and imagery and evidenced in what you may term to be more solidity.

Agreements may be created objectively in relation to yourself and any other manifestation of consciousness or other individuals, but it is not an absolute and therefore there is always the potential for change in relation to agreements.

Let me also express to you, agreements that are created subjectively are not quite as definite or clear, so to speak. They are created within the moment and are not as defined, so to speak, as you associate them to be objectively.

JOHN: What agreements do I have?

ELIAS: In relation to what?

JOHN: What does that mean?

ELIAS: You are inquiring of a quite broad spectrum in this question.

JOHN: In terms of what might be most objectively visible or evidenced eventually, in terms of explanation sort of agreement. It sounds like some of these are hard to describe, but the more easy ones to describe that may manifest objectively – I mean, think about objectively.

ELIAS: Objectively, presently, an agreement that you engage in this now is to be interactive with myself. Agreements are created in the moment in relation to any subject matter.

JOHN: It’s a bit distorted, people talking about agreements and whatnot.

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the specific direction of discussion concerning this term of agreement. Many times individuals are incorporating misunderstandings or distortion in relation to this action, but there are also individuals that are merely allowing themselves to define certain movements and experiences that they are incorporating within their individual focus, and seeking validation in relation to their choice in agreement with another manifestation of consciousness, be it another individual or some other expression of consciousness within your physical dimension.

JOHN: Have I got that sort of agreement?

ELIAS: You ALL create these types of agreements within every moment, my friend. Each time you engage any other manifestation of consciousness, you are creating an agreement to participate together in the moment. This, so to speak, is an agreement.

JOHN: I get you! It’s just a direction, but a direction that engages somebody else.

ELIAS: Or any other aspect of consciousness.

JOHN: Now, I’m a bit lost for a ... you there?


JOHN: I’m a bit lost for things to say. (Elias chuckles) This place where I am is not quite in alignment with my energy either, in a different way than New York was but similarly to New York not in alignment.

ELIAS: I am understanding, which also creates within you a movement of less clarity, for you scatter your energy in physical locations that you do not resonate with.

This is an expression that you individually create. This is not necessarily a general statement, but that you within your individual focus allow yourself more of an expression of clarity and ease in functioning, so to speak, in physical locations in which you resonate with the energy deposits of those physical locations.

JOHN: Such as London?


JOHN: So with London, it’s a certain energy deposit, you say, that makes the resonation happen?

ELIAS: Yes, for you express a particular vibrational quality within your physical manifestation in which you create this type of movement, that you allow yourself much more of an ease in physical locations that generate a similar type of vibrational quality as you create.

In the time frameworks in which you choose to be physically locating yourself in certain areas which do not incorporate the types of energy deposits that you resonate with, you affect your physical energy centers and you create a type of scatteredness within your energy expression, which also translates objectively in your thought processes and your movements, your expressions, and also your attention.

JOHN: Hmm. So do I resonate with this next city I might want to go to? I feel like I do, more than here or New York.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOHN: But not like London?

ELIAS: Similar.

JOHN: Similar – interesting, interesting. This course of study idea seems like a good idea. We talked about it a little earlier, but on one hand, part of me feels like I’m just doing something a bit crazy, that it’s not going to work anyhow. But is that the case, is something different here? You said levels or something like that earlier in this session here, but whilst that may be case, it seems a little different, this feeling that I’m engaging.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. For in this, you also are focusing your attention slightly more in the direction of recognition of your movement and your challenging of yourself in what and how you create within your abilities. Therefore, in this challenge you also allow yourself to be testing your waters, so to speak, allowing yourself to view that you actually do hold the ability to be creating what you want and not discounting yourself quite so frequently as you have previously by projecting your attention pastly. You are allowing yourself more of an expression of holding your attention in the now.

I may express to you, my friend, that you do continue to project your attention futurely, which is distracting and also at times reinforces your doubt in relation to your ability to accomplish what you want. Therefore, I may suggest to you that you allow yourself to pay attention to the moments in which you are projecting your attention futurely and allow yourself the expression of turning your attention to the now, recognizing that what you want is created now, not in anticipation of what may be within the future.

JOHN: Off the top of my head, I feel a bit strange right now. Why do I feel strange? It’s a sort of emotion, but it seems a bit odd and I can’t trace it exactly.

ELIAS: The reason you are generating this emotional communication is that you are once again discounting of yourself. For in this moment there is a subjective recognition of a belief which is influencing your perception IN THIS VERY MOMENT concerning productivity and preparedness, and in this, you are generating discomfort within yourself and not allowing yourself to relax, for you are expressing an expectation upon self that you SHOULD BE more efficiently engaging interaction in this moment in this conversation, and therefore you are also expressing an alignment with your beliefs of time and productivity, efficiency, and what you view to be wasting of time.

Therefore, as you create these movements in the moment and you engage particular movements in thoughts, your subjective awareness recognizes what you are actually creating within the moment and therefore offers you an emotion which communicates to you the identification of what you are creating in association with your beliefs in the particular moment. This offers you an efficient opportunity to recognize quite specifically what you are actually creating, and once allowing yourself to recognize what you are creating, you also offer yourself the opportunity for choice, recognizing that you are creating a certain expression but that this is an automatic response generated in relation to specific beliefs.

This is not to say that you eliminate the beliefs or that you change the beliefs. You merely recognize that you are creating an automatic response in relation to them and offer yourself the opportunity of choice, therefore recognizing that you are not locked to the automatic response.

It matters not, my friend. You need not be expressing productivity. You need not be generating questions to myself in what you term to be profundity. You may allow yourself merely to relax and engage conversation, if you are so choosing.

JOHN: How much whiskey was in the bottle before I took it away?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Offer to myself your impression.

JOHN: Was it about half full? (Elias chuckles) Here’s my diagram of the bottle; it’s a bad diagram. There’s the line around...

ELIAS: Slightly less.

JOHN: Slightly less – so it was about where my pen is, where the mark is? No, slightly less.


JOHN: Okay. So, is there a lot gone?

ELIAS: This is for your interpretation, my friend. It is dependent upon your perception.

JOHN: Slightly less, in that case...

ELIAS: And what is your concern in relation to this subject?

JOHN: Well, I drank somebody else’s whiskey, and now I’m trying to figure out how much I need to replace. (Laughing, and Elias laughs) Slightly less than ... so the whiskey’s basically where this bottom pen marking was. Is that right?

ELIAS: Approximately. (Long pause)


ELIAS: Approximately.

JOHN: Approximately. Okay, I’ll work that out – good stuff. Well, that was fun.

I really want to send this girl an email, which is where my attention is now.

Bit of a question I had, in the past there was some sort of ... it was you talking about “future sessions,” I believe the title was. This was what was taking place in the next century, probabilities and that. Somewhere there, maybe not in this particular session, but are you going to have another one of those? I mean, you said they were few but you didn’t say there wouldn’t be another one.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOHN: What does the second one entail? (Pause)

ELIAS: Let me express an inquiry to you in this now, my friend. Express to myself what motivates you to be continuing in conversation with myself in denial of what you genuinely want to be engaging presently?

JOHN: Well, I guess my question is, this sort of disruptive generation of young people that somehow I feel tied to, what is my connection there? (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: I shall respond to your question as you respond to mine! Therefore, respond to my question and subsequently I shall respond to your question.

JOHN: I guess, well, part of me was ... it seemed like a good question to ask. By the same token, I did have a third question written down somewhere, and I thought, well, it’s a great time to ask it. I mean it seems sort of flippant – I mean, this session here’s been flippant. Is that the right word? I hope I’m using the right word.

ELIAS: I am understanding. (John begins speaking again) Rrussell!

JOHN: ...and it seemed an appropriate time to throw that in. It was a flippant question that I might think of it one time during non-sessions, and it seemed like the appropriate session at which to bring up.

ELIAS: Very well, and I shall respond. Rrussell, I have offered a question to you and you have not responded!

JOHN: What’s keeping me from ... well, I asked a question! (Elias smiles and chuckles to himself) I guess my question is ... well, I did ask a question. I didn’t know what the question is to ask this morning; well, I can’t talk about what I don’t know I’m supposed to be talking about. I know there’s something, a great big question I am expected to ask, I wanted to ask, during the session, but I don’t know what it is.

ELIAS: Very well, I shall respond to your question. You inquire what the similarity or the connection, so to speak, is between yourself and other individuals in what you term to be...

JOHN: Hang on for one second. (Elias chuckles, and John talks to someone in the background) Carry on.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Very well! You identify similarity in yourself in relation to other individuals that you term to be young in age, a restlessness and also at times a confusion in direction. This is in actuality, within this present time framework, quite commonly expressed, for there is a movement of two expressions simultaneously within many young individuals in relation to this shift in consciousness.

In one respect, there is an awareness of movement and of the action of this shift. You have manifest yourselves in a time framework in which you recognize that you have chosen to be manifest within a particular expression of this shift in consciousness, and you are quite in alignment with it. Therefore, there is an openness that is naturally expressed in your awareness. But you also adhere to many of the expressions of beliefs that are expressed en masse within your societies in relation to the familiar expressions of beliefs and associations of behaviors.

Therefore the restlessness springs from a partial awareness that in actuality you ARE directing of your focus; you ARE steering your ship, so to speak. But you also are aligning with your societal beliefs and expressions and this creates a frustration, for you already KNOW that you hold choice and you hold the freedom to not bind yourself to the automatic responses of mass beliefs. But you do not always afford yourselves the expression of this freedom, for there is expressed concern in relation to your associations with how you shall be perceived or viewed by other individuals.

Therefore as you create these two movements simultaneously, the movement of freedom is the underlying movement but it is expressed quite strongly, for it is also reinforced by the movement of this shift in consciousness. This creates a restlessness within many of you, for objectively you are expressing to yourselves that there are certain movements or actions that you cannot incorporate or that you should not incorporate, but underlyingly – and also objectively – simultaneously you express the knowing that you do hold the freedom to be steering your own ship, regardless of the expressions or expectations of any other individual.

JOHN: Getting back to an impression I had, what would be this sort of waiting, this waiting period?

ELIAS: YOU create this in relation to your alignment with mass beliefs in association with your definition of patience – which you view to be good – but your definition of patience is to be waiting for the materialization of an action or an event which may be in alignment with what you want.

In this, you are expressing precisely what I have explained to you in this present conversation of aligning with the mass belief and definition of certain terms but also creating a restlessness, for underlyingly you also recognize a different definition of terms and recognize that the waiting is unnecessary, that you hold the ability to be creating within the now.

JOHN: Interesting. All right, I got it. (Pause) Well, I ... hello?


JOHN: There’s a bit of a moaning in the background. I’m not sure what to say next! (Elias chuckles) May as well carry on for the minutes I’ve got left ... feel better about the whiskey. (Elias laughs, and a pause)

This focus Hahw ... or how is that pronounced, the name there H-A-H-W?

ELIAS: Of this individual that you have inquired of this morning?

JOHN: Yes, quite.

ELIAS: Let me offer spelling to you once again: S-H-A-H-W.

JOHN: Okay. I got it quite wrong! (Elias chuckles) S-H-A-H-W.

ELIAS: W is the final letter, you are correct.

JOHN: Oh, right, Shahw. And my friend, Jeff, is that alignment Vold?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOHN: And he’s probably Sumari.


JOHN: Oh, right. That was pretty good, I’m doing pretty good! (Elias laughs) How many focuses do I hold in this dimension? I’ve seen this question asked, may as well ask it.

ELIAS: And shall you venture an impression?

JOHN: I’ve got 1068. (Pause)

ELIAS: I may express to you, 1015.

JOHN: One thousand fifteen ... hello?


JOHN: What was the “press one” about? Hello?


JOHN: What was the “press one” about?

ELIAS: And the nature of your concern?

JOHN: You still there?


JOHN: Is the phone card about to be cut off?

ELIAS: This is your expression, my friend, for you are creating uncomfortableness in this conversation, and therefore you are also creating an excusable manner in which you may allow yourself to disengage this conversation. (Momentary loud static) Ha ha ha! (Pause, and Elias chuckles) And so you shall!

Elias departs at 12:09 PM.


John’s Notes: I woke up, hung-over, about a quarter-of-an-hour before the session started. The previous night, I had gone to a bar in the small, Midwestern town I was visiting. There, I got into a conversation with a stunning young blonde, who, at the end of the night, casually suggested she “show me around town.” Not more than twenty minutes later, we were laying in the grass near the bank of a river, sipping whisky drinks and getting increasingly naughty. It was a very long night and early morning. Unfortunately, the affair turned out to be a one-night stand, although we traded a couple of email letters afterward. I still remember, fondly, our running to the playground at dawn, jumping in the sand and daring each other to go higher and higher on the swings.

With regards to my question about the “disruptive generation of young people,” I was referring to my feeling of relation, despite the age difference, to so-called Indigo Children, children of the 2020s and teenagers today.

Elias’ parlour trick of “viewing” my cocktail napkin diagram as we spoke on the phone was an important moment for me in forming acceptance toward psychic phenomena, especially the energy exchange itself. I was also impressed by his timing at the end of the session. As soon as he finished his sentence, I was disconnected by the phone card. I perceive the last words, “and so you shall” as an inside joke about his always having the “final word”; I got to hear them only after receiving the session tape!

The session tape ends with a beeping phone signal and Mary calling out my name. From the intonation, she sounds slightly annoyed, politely amused. I take this opportunity to apologise for all those times my session got cut-off unexpectedly!

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