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Sunday, August 18, 1996

<  Session 113 (Group/Castaic)  >

“The Intersection of Probable Selves”

Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Cathy (Shynla), Jim (Yarr), Gail (William), Bill (Kasha), and two new participants, Marie (Marie), and Brenda (Batice).

Vic’s note: This session was taped without the date/time setting on the camcorder; hence no times are available.

ELIAS: Good evening.

GROUP: Good evening.

ELIAS: Welcome to new essence! (Said to Marie, as Brenda arrived later with Bill)

At our last “regularly scheduled” session, (grinning) we were discussing probabilities and probable selves. As I have expressed, this is a difficult subject. In continuing this subject matter of probable selves, I wish to express to you that you view only one aspect of the entirety of your essence consciousness. We have reserved expression in this direction, for the reason of not wishing to be confusing you within certain elements which may threaten your particular idea of your identity.

I have expressed to you the intersections of probable selves that you hold, but I also express to you that you yourselves are probable selves. In this, understand that this does not “take away from” the vitality or the reality of your individual expression, for you are individuals and you possess your own creativity; although you are also a probable self to another focus or aspect of your essence. In this, when you are choosing to be disengaging from physical focus, you are not “absorbed into” the essence whole, but in another respect, you are. You do not lose your individuality of this particular focus, although you do allow for a wider awareness, which may include all of your focuses. In this, the action of mergence is an expression that, in similarity to physical focus, you view different qualities of your being; different expressions of yourself.

Within non-physical, your awareness is wide enough to encompass all of the facets of your essence, to which you will view this particular focus as one expression of yourself. Presently, you view this one focus as the entirety of yourself. You view your identity, within this one focus, as being the entirety of you. This is only one probable action of essence. Intersections of other facets or developmental focuses of you are slightly different in expression than intersections occurring with present, or what you view to be present, probable selves.

As we were expressing previously, there are pools of consciousness. Each of you aligns with your own pool of probable selves within consciousness. These are all probable actions that you limit yourself to within each focus, to be intersecting with and connecting within the action of movement of probabilities within your particular focus or present “lifetime.” As we have expressed, all things are probabilities. All action is a probability. This is not limited to only physical focus and your manifestations. All action of all consciousness is a probability, for there are always choices within any given action. In this, we have spoken many times of probabilities being actualized everywhere. Each probability that you do not choose is also actualized within another area of consciousness.

Now, some probabilities are actualized physically. Some probabilities are not actualized physically. In this, you may view that developmental focuses of yours are also probable selves being actualized within physical manifestations. These are actualized within different time elements, but they are also actualized physically. Other probable selves are actualized also, but do not manifest within physical focus. Those probable selves, for the most part, which you align with within a particular focus are all actualized, but not necessarily physically. Therefore, each choice throughout your focus that you choose to manifest provides many avenues of other choices which are not actualized within this physical focus, but are actualized within consciousness, within another dimensional area of consciousness; this being one of the reasons that I make a distinction between intersections of probable selves which you view to be other focuses, and those which you “think of” as connected with an individual focus; for those within developmental focuses are actualized physically.

Therefore, within one respect, speaking in relation to yourself, they are not you. They are, in another respect, you, within your thinking, for you think in terms of time. Time is an intricate part of your creations. Therefore, what you create within physical focus is related to time for your understanding. Therefore, you may view other focuses as past or future lifetimes, viewing these to be aspects of yourself, or events and occurrences within a time period of yourself. In actuality, they are elements of your essence to which you identify, and you also hold all of the essence information within your individual focus consciousness. So within one respect, they are part of you, but as I have expressed previously, they are also independent of you. They do not exchange places with you ... although they may! (Grinning) Generally speaking, you do not choose this action, although it is possible. You choose, for your own understanding of your own self-identity, to continue your focus within one directed attention. In this, you view no interruption. Your time element appears smooth and consistent to you, although in reality, it is not; for you are continuously blinking in and out, connecting with other focuses, experiencing other focuses.

The purpose for this information is to allow you to think of essence. You, within one focus, are not the entirety of essence. You are also the center of essence, just as each focus is the center of essence; but were you to allow yourself the opportunity to be physically meeting with your other facets of essence, they would present themselves to you viewing you as the probable self, a past or future, and to them, you would be appearing to be “less real,” just as they appear to you, within your periphery, as being “less real,” or removed from your immediate experience.

These are difficult areas to be engaging, within your understanding and your language attachment to concepts. Therefore, as I have stated previously within our sessions, we shall be moving quite slowly with this particular information. We have moved into areas of discussion previously, to which we were quite understanding that you were not understanding! This has been offered purposefully. This particular information holds elements that will be beneficial to you presently, within your present interaction physically. This information is pertinent to your everyday life, for you engage probabilities and intersections every day. Although you do not always recognize the intersections, you do recognize, presently, the action of probabilities. Even within this knowledge, you do not, in actuality, focus upon your action of probabilities. You do not concentrate on each probability that you engage within your waking time period, which there may be hundreds; for every moment of your existence engages probabilities. Each moment that you choose to engage your physical body and draw another breath, you have created a choice of a probability to continue within physical focus.

We shall discontinue temporarily, and I shall allow for your questions this evening.

CATHY: Can I ask a question? About ten days ago, when I had the dog put his feet on my lap and growl in my face, and I chose at that particular moment to just call the other trainer there and the other trainer called the dog and it got off my lap and went away, and then about a week ago when we had another meditation, right at the end of the meditation I felt an energy in my body, and then I saw this dog once again sitting on my lap with both his feet on me and growling in my face, only I chose to grab the dog and throw it out the window in that particular case. Could you explain that to me? Was that another probability, obviously that I chose to do, but could you explain that a little bit to me?

ELIAS: Very well. Within the struggle of conflict that you presently engage, you have chosen an action of engagement physically, to be allowing yourself to gain your own attention. This will be working nicely into our subject matter of probabilities, for you may allow yourselves the opportunity to view the movement within consciousness and agreement, even with your creatures, for your benefiting.

Within the action physically of the creature, this was manifest by you. You chose to be engaging certain elements of your belief systems and your conflict presently, allowing yourself the actualization, within action, of what you view within consciousness. You feel confused and attacked. You feel “out of control” presently. Therefore, you present yourself with a very creative expression, actualizing this action physically, although you were not objectively understanding your expression. Therefore, you presented this action to yourself once again within the meditation, allowing yourself the opportunity to be regaining what you view to be your control.

CATHY: Interesting. Funny thing about that is, I knew that dog was gonna approach me before I even walked in the door, and I did it anyway.

ELIAS: And this is surprising to you?

CATHY: No, not at all! Guess not! (Laughing)

ELIAS: For you have created this action to begin with! Therefore, you would be recognizing of your own creation! (Smiling)

CATHY: Or belief systems that I have about that type of dog with that type of personality?

ELIAS: This is what you have physically manifest; the issue having nothing to do with the creature or its specific breed within its species.

CATHY: Well, can’t wait to read this!

VICKI: So this would be similar to my experience with the cat?

ELIAS: These are physical examples to you, and opportunities for you to be viewing actions that you presently are experiencing conflict within certain areas of your engagement of base belief systems, offering yourselves what you term to be new experiences that you may not attach familiarity with; therefore allowing yourselves a pure expression, within experience, to gain your own attention. (To Bill and Brenda, who recently arrived) Welcome to new essence, and Kasha.

VICKI: Well, I have another question. With the information you just delivered regarding probable selves, could you explain again, then, the action of Will in the book?

ELIAS: We enter presently, as I have stated, difficult areas which incorporate confusion and much availability for distortion and misunderstanding. There are exchanges, as I have expressed, that you may be engaged in with probable selves.

I have expressed this evening that you may exchange temporarily with another focus or probable self. I have been cautious to not be expressing absolutes; for you may, in actuality, encounter a physical manifestation of a probable self within your particular focus. This is another expression of the action within probabilities which you create many of. This would not be the same expression of intersection of those probable selves that you align with within one particular focus, within your directed attention of probabilities.

As I have expressed previously, you do choose what you view to be a linear progression of probable actions, to which you engage probable actions throughout your focus that you view to be “leading to” certain ends, so to speak, regardless of your awareness of the actions themselves. In what you view to be retrospect, you may speak to yourself and express, “Ah! I am understanding the reasoning that I have created these actions within my past,” although there is no past! Now you may view our difficulty, within your language, of expressing these concepts; for you think and create quite linearly within your time element, which is very influencing of your creations and also of your probabilities, although the time element is only relevant to the individual focus. It is not relevant to essence.

Within certain expressions, one may choose to be engaging belief systems or conflict situations within a particular focus, and be creating of an alternate or probable self to be experiencing a certain action in replacement of one’s self, as you view yourself to be. In actuality, what you are creating is the allowance, within essence, for a physical manifestation of a probable self to engage temporarily, within physical, the emotional and intellectual state of action, to be accomplishing a moving through of conflict for you; although you are moving through this action yourself, although you are not! (Grinning) It is quite confusing!

If you are viewing yourself in connection with essence, it may be slightly easier for you to be understanding that of which we speak, but I am understanding also that this, in itself, is quite difficult, for this places your identity, within your individual focus, into a precarious position, to where you automatically view that this particular focus holds no importance, or is only one grain of sand within the entirety of essence; although without each grain, there would be no essence! This is very oversimplified; this being why I return quite often to express to you, in counterbalance to information offered, that you are the center; for in reality, you are! Another non-answer from Elias! (Vicki laughs) I will be attempting more sufficient expressions for Lawrence that will also not be incorporating conflict or confusion for new essences. We shall break and we shall return for your questions, and on to our game!


ELIAS: Continuing: You may be asking your questions, before we are moving to our game activity this evening.

CATHY: Okay. Is Chelsea noticing the merging between yourself and Michael? (Chelsea is Mary’s dog)

ELIAS: (Humorously) A perception from Shynla! Note this!

RON: It’s on tape! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Very good! Very interesting connecting with your awareness, as I have expressed of the aspect within this creature also, and the physical identification within the consciousness of the creature presently, which recognizes both individual energies within consciousness. Within the action of this mergence, a recognition of a changing has occurred. This is not completely understood within the manifestation of the animal, for as I have expressed previously, animals do not think in the terms that you think; although they do connect within consciousness, and understand within an acceptance that you do not allow yourselves within your expressions, generally speaking. Therefore, you are correct that there is an identification and a noticing within this creature.

CATHY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

GAIL: I have a question. When I find myself doing pressure points on people or animals, is that a periphery, or ... Let’s see here. I can’t think of it ...

JIM: Subjective?

GAIL: Yeah, is that the subjective self? I find myself doing this, and I don’t understand why I’m doing it.

ELIAS: These are expressions of what we have expressed as your periphery or unofficial expressions. All of these subjective bleed-through actions into your objective expression are exhibitions of your secondary attention; your periphery, as you have expressed. This is your unofficial expressions that you are allowing to move into your directed attention, and accepting of these expressions. This is part of your present movement, within an allowance of an objective connection with your subjective expressions.

GAIL: Thank you.

JIM: I have a question. In our dreams, we view alternate selves?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: In the dream that I expressed during the break, where I viewed myself and I lost a group of people and so forth, and then in my waking state, realizing that the dream was a reality, going into a meditation and picking up these people and regrouping them, was I affecting that alternate self, and connecting in that as well?

ELIAS: Very good example for you all, within an expression of probabilities and the action of probabilities within your periphery, as you view it to be, for you do not accept your dream state as your official reality. This is what you view to be “less real” than your waking state, although in actuality, it is equal in its reality and expression.

In this state of consciousness within your dreams, many times you are connecting with an observation or participation in an alternate reality. In this, you offer yourself the opportunity to be affecting of this alternate reality within your objective consciousness; your awareness. You offer yourself the opportunity to view and interact with a conscious awareness, or what you view to be a conscious awareness; for you are continuously interacting and intersecting with alternate selves and alternate realities. You do this many times within your dream state, although you do this continuously regardless of your state of consciousness; but within your dream state, you allow yourselves, occasionally, to view the action. In this, you also offer yourselves the opportunity to be altering the action and changing the reality; (to Vicki) changing the color of the house.

This is an example of how you may, in actuality, alter reality as it is perceived. You may view an event within a probable reality and subsequently engage your thought process of this event, realizing that you were wishing to create a different outcome. Therefore, you may engage this alternate reality once again, affecting what you view to be past, which is affecting and creating of the present.

JIM: Okay. Also, the other day when we were driving, I lost my train of thought and felt my consciousness ... The best I can describe it is like a rubber band that was pulled back and shot forward and then snapped back, all fairly instantaneously, within four or five seconds. What was that all about?

ELIAS: This is a noticing of your blinking in and out. Within your perception of time, it is necessary for you to exaggerate the time element for you to notice the action. Therefore, you slow your perception of time, allowing yourself to view the action; for within your perception, your time moves quickly, although as we have stated, your time in actuality moves quite slowly; but within this type of action, you, within your noticing and your perception, slow your viewing of your time element even further, therefore offering yourself the opportunity to be viewing an action of interruption of your flow of perception within your time element.

JIM: That’s what it was; it was very slow.

ELIAS: Although simultaneously, you view this to be instantaneous!

JIM: Yeah. That’s all for now. Thank you. Again, thank you for helping me, and I guess everybody here in the group, with our agreements, of which we were unaware of when they were created. I feel very fortunate. Thank you.

ELIAS: In this, you continue your agreements yourselves through your desire.

JIM: Got lots of that! (Pause)

CATHY: So, where are the computer friends? (In reference to a lessening of interaction in “computerland”)

ELIAS: Another probable action to which you may, within exploration of probabilities and in allowing yourself to be contemplating in this subject area, attempt to be offering yourself partial information for these actions. We have been speaking of probabilities, but you each are not presently, yet, engaging the reality of what we discuss. You may attempt presently, if you are choosing, to be investigating of your probable actions, and continue to be asking yourself why you are drawing this experience to yourself; as this being presently Lawrence’s issue. Therefore, as we have expressed many, many times, you actualize what you focus upon; this presently being the issue that Lawrence has chosen, within probabilities, to be engaging. Therefore, you continue the action of this subject. I shall offer to you, you may gain more information by looking within, as opposed to conducting your search without. (Pause)

Offering of essence names: (To Brenda) Welcome to Batice. (To Marie) And also another probable action, as Elizabeth, with Marie. (Meaning that her essence name is the same as her present name)

VICKI: Could you spell the first one?


JIM: I have a question. A couple of weeks ago when we meditated on our city through group action, were we constructive in parts of the city in that meditation? (Pause, with Elias staring at Jim)


ELIAS: Very good, Lawrence! (Laughter)

JIM: I figured we were. I guess I just needed to do it.

VICKI: In fact, I was going to offer up tonight, in conjunction with Jim and without any better language to use, the combination greenhouse/zoo to the city.

ELIAS: Ah, to be officially recognized. Done.

GAIL: I would like to introduce the well in the city.

ELIAS: Accepted, although you need not my acceptance or validation; but as you are within your beginning stages, so to speak, of your trustfulness of selves, I shall indulge this action. (Pause)

CATHY: I think he’s waiting for me! (Laughter) It would have to be the ocean with the dolphins in it.

ELIAS: (Humorously) Also no connection made within this area, for Shynla does not connect within consciousness, and also does not accomplish. Possibly I shall be accepting of this expression ... Are you quite sure?

CATHY: Quite! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Very well! (To Bill) And no croaking from our little frog?

BILL: You know what? I didn’t hear that. (Someone says “croaking”) Croaking? Oh. Well, there’s lots of questions! I’m sitting here with this wave rushing over me just constantly. Can you explain that for me?

ELIAS: A connection within energy. You need not explanation of this event!

BILL: Okay. It feels really good to feel the energy.

ELIAS: Offering one small element of information to which you may also contemplate, and then you may formulate your questions. Concentrate on disassembling your shrines. This will be helpful in the action of eliminating conflict, for you have drawn these shrines out of Regional Area Two to be presenting them directly in front of you, and you are not pleased with what you view. Therefore, you hold the opportunity presently to be disassembling of these shrines.

(To the dog, who has been approaching Elias frequently this evening) Little one! Much confusion has ensued! (Smiling, and a pause) Are you wishing of more questions this evening?

RON: How did you like our movie? (Laughter)

ELIAS: It is only partially accomplished, for the star has not arrived! (We all crack up)

RON: That’s true!

ELIAS: I shall interject, within connection to my dear teacher, so to speak, BE JOYFUL! (Loudly) For we may speak quite loudly also, if we are choosing, although this would not be Elias’ expression! (Grinning, and more laughter) The editor may edit this element into the session if you are wishing, to be presenting the comparison.

RON: Okay, I will!

ELIAS: Quite a creative endeavor, and also an efficient expression of our favorite subject matter; fun! On to our game! (To Vicki) Excuse for startling of Lawrence within expression of comparison of another essence! (She did jump a bit)

VICKI: It’s quite alright!

RON: I’ll go. These are kind of old. I hope the probabilities haven’t changed! (Laughter)

ELIAS: There is no old!

RON: Okay, these are brand new! Senses, Rose, imagination.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: Gods, Rose, Pan.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: Tomkin, vibrational tones, rhythm.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: Songs, Ordin, “The Firebird Suite.”

ELIAS: Acceptable.

RON: Thank you.

ELIAS: Those rusty probabilities! (Laughter)

CATHY: Okay. Black, occurrences of nature, waterfall.

ELIAS: One point.

CATHY: Black, “m” name, Marlo.

ELIAS: Quite close!

CATHY: I’ll have to think on that, or impressionize on that, I guess. I don’t know.

ELIAS: (To Vicki) Enter this word “impressionize! Quite good! I shall consider borrowing this word! (Laughter)

CATHY: Okay. Black, gem, obsidian.

ELIAS: One point.

CATHY: Roots and berries, Paul, huckleberry.

ELIAS: One point.

CATHY: Zuli, occupation, acrobat.

ELIAS: (Accessing) Less probable.

CATHY: Rats! Black, herbs, anemone.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

GAIL: I think the last time we played, I had occurrences of nature and I chose creation, and I was supposed to add to it. I believe it’s “the nature of the universe.”

ELIAS: (Accessing) I express to you, within your definitions as opposed to our definitions, I shall request a specification as to your wording of universe.

GAIL: Well, what comes to mind is “all-encompassing.”

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Less probable.

GAIL: Children’s stories, “The Secret Garden,” Rose.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

GAIL: Gemstone, Rose, quartz crystal.

ELIAS: One point.

GAIL: Okay, here’s one I’m gonna try. For one of the babies; the name of Jesus (Spanish pronunciation), and this is how to spell the last name; Y-U-G-U; location, Africa; and color, red.

ELIAS: Correct. One point; additional point to be added to our next game, interaction to which William shall encounter three. Very good!

JIM: Okay. Fairy tales, Sumari, “The Young King.”

ELIAS: Acceptable.

JIM: Fairy tales, Sumafi, “The Ugly Duckling.”

ELIAS: Acceptable.

JIM: Fables, Sumafi, “The Tortoise And The Hare.”

ELIAS: One point.

JIM: Sumafi, songs, “Going Home.”

ELIAS: Acceptable.

JIM: Thank you.

VICKI: Okay, for Michael; Borledim, philosophers, John Dewey.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Sumari, vegetables, broccoli.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Sumafi, songs, “When You Wish Upon A Star.”

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Sumafi, hobbies, art.

ELIAS: Less probable.

VICKI: Milumet, hobbies, storytelling.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

VICKI: For myself; Sumafi, vibrational tones, The Codicils.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: To go back to the babies, the location of Alex, England.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Sumafi, authors, James Joyce.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Cultures, Sumafi, the Grecian culture.

ELIAS: One point. Not much variation with Lawrence, but quite consistent!

CATHY: Okay, I’d like to add categories.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

CATHY: Sculptures. (Pause)

ELIAS: Continue.

CATHY: Quotes; poets.

ELIAS: You incorporate poets presently.

CATHY: Then just the other two. (Elias nods)

VICKI: Quotes will be fun!

CATHY: I thought so! (Pause)

ELIAS: Are you wishing more questions for this evening?

BILL: What can I do to understand more about the game? I feel so disconnected from the game!

ELIAS: Incorporate your time element with these individuals present, and they shall be offering you explanations of the premise of our game interaction. The action that you incorporate is only to be listening and acknowledging of your own impressions. Guesses are unacceptable! (Grinning)

CATHY: I can vouch for that! (Laughter)

ELIAS: (Smiling) This game is an exercise ongoing, allowing you the opportunity to be trusting of yourselves and your expression and your own noticing of your own impressions, which you do not listen to. Therefore, within the element of fun, we engage an exercise that you may practice listening to your own impressions.

BILL: Since you and I have talked, have I engaged in listening to myself?

ELIAS: Quite well. Acknowledged. Continue! (Pause)

VICKI: I would like to pose a question that was posed to me today by Shynla. (To Cathy) You’re not going to ask it?

CATHY: Go ahead. I’m questioned out!

VICKI: Her question was, when you have a statement to make to another person that you know or that you feel may be conflicting for the other person, is that then incorrect? (To Cathy) Did I get that right? (Cathy nods)

ELIAS: To be expressing?

VICKI: To be expressing.

ELIAS: Not necessarily. We have engaged this specific issue previously within our sessions. If you are expressing within what you view to be your “best ability,” very limiting terms, of essence, and are wishing no harmfulness to the other individual, you do yourself and the other individual no favor by withholding. As we have expressed previously, all is received within energy and consciousness regardless. Therefore, you hide nothing within your lack of expression. This is not to say that you shall engage another individual without examining your motivation, for if you hold any element of hurtfulness, then this must be examined first; but if your expression is to be truthful and also to be expressing from essence as the straight sapling, then within your responsibility within your expression, you may engage the other individual. Resulting action of the other individual subsequently is their responsibility, for they choose also, within probabilities, the response.

CATHY: Where does timing enter into this?

ELIAS: This, you may allow yourself a knowing. Within your individual expressions, you already know. If you are experiencing a continuous nagging, your timing has already been engaged and is present. If you do not experience a continuous nagging to be expressing to this individual, and you feel only a slight noticing, you may allow yourself the leeway, within your time element, to be presenting your information when it appears to you to be correct. Notice within your own feelings and thoughts. If you presently occupy your thoughts and feelings with this subject matter, your timing has presented itself already. Therefore, you only engage the action of creating conflict for yourself in not expressing.

CATHY: I remember that well! (Laughing) Thank you.

ELIAS: Be understanding within these expressions also, that you may quite effectively delude yourselves. Within your fear, you may express to yourselves, your timing element is not right; for you do not listen to your own expression and what your impulses are expressing to you. You do listen to your intellect and your rationalization of your expectation of response.

CATHY: Quite true!

ELIAS: Therefore, in listening to this expression, you prevent yourself from initiating the action of engagement. Each individual creates their own reality. Each individual creates their own response. This is not your, nor is this Kasha’s, responsibility. You hold enough responsibility for your own essence! It is not necessary or important that you understand another individual’s creation of their own reality and their expressions. It is important that you understand your own creation of your own reality and your own expressions. It is not incorrect to be expressing yourself outwardly, objectively, truthfully, if you are holding no malice.

CATHY: I think I’ve got it!

ELIAS: Very good!

RON: I’d like to know why Shynla has so many questions for Elias all of a sudden?

CATHY: Shut up, Ron! (We all crack up)

GAIL: Well, you have to admit, it is unusual!

CATHY: Well, once she moves, she moves! What can I say?

BILL: Like the frog jumping?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) I shall extend a very affectionate, parting note to you all, and express also an invitation to new essences present to be returning to the forum of these sessions. I shall be anticipating encountering these individuals once again, and I shall be disengaging you this evening for your interaction amongst yourselves. Au revoir!

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