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Saturday, June 28, 1997

<  Session 187 (Private)  >


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Stella (Cindel), Letty (Castille), Norma (Paul), and Marcos (Marta).

Vic’s note: This session addresses quite a few concepts. Good questions!

Elias arrives at 5:34 PM. (Time was 15 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening. So, you are requesting audience this day?


ELIAS: And what shall you inquire?

STELLA: (Laughing) I have a lot of questions!

ELIAS: Ah, this is quite familiar to this essence!

STELLA: It’s good to see you, Elias. Good to hear you! I don’t see you, I hear you. I’m going to start, and what I wanted to know, which is uppermost in my mind, is what is my connection, let’s say, with ... I’ve brought some friends with me, Letty, Marcos, Norma, and what is my connection mostly with Letty? I feel very close. Can you tell me anything about the relationship, the connection?

ELIAS: (Accessing) This being a connection within essence, within the action of fragmentation. Within certain aspects of the action of fragmentation, many times essences may be fragmenting elements of that essence, creating new essences within agreement, and they may be paralleling each other within consciousness. This is not to say that these manifestations of essences within physical focus may completely parallel each other within a given focus, but within tone and within essence and intent, they quite parallel each other. This would be the action that you engage with this individual. You are both fragmented of the same essence. You incorporate your own essences, each, but you hold similar fragmentation from the same essence. In this, you also within consciousness parallel each other, therefore drawing to each other quite strongly within an identification of this connection within consciousness.

Also within this situation, individual essences are choosing to be manifest in many focuses together. Therefore, you hold many manifestations with each other within different roles of interaction; not always manifesting in the same relationship, but in many different types of relationships. Lawrence and Michael also ...

STELLA: Who is Lawrence? (Vic points to herself)

ELIAS: ... engage a similar action, in that they manifest within many focuses physically together. Their connection is different within essence, but they also engage this same action of physical manifestation within many different relationships. This would be your explanation of your draw to each other, and your feeling or sensing within you of a connection within consciousness that extends beyond only this physical focus.

LETTY: Does that mean also that it could be that we have been in previous lives? (To clarify: in Elias’ terms, a focus is a lifetime)

ELIAS: Quite. Yes.

STELLA: Does that mean with Marcos also, or is this just with Letty? Or have we all been together somewhere?

ELIAS: (Accessing) This individual holds a different action in connection with you. This is not a connection within the action of fragmentation and parallel essences. This would be a connection within also many shared focuses.

As to your questioning of your connections with you all: As I have expressed, individuals within focuses, as an action of essence, are choosing within particular dimensions to be manifesting in groups. Therefore, within your concept of remanifestation, you accomplish this in connection with the same individuals within many, many focuses. Your relationships change and your interaction may be different for your roles are different, but you shall for the most part remanifest within interaction of the same individuals many times.

This would not be only the situation of a limited amount of individuals, such as those which you refer to within these four; for as you recognize that you draw yourselves to this forum now, you shall also be presented with individuals that you have manifest with previously. You may manifest within an individual focus and you may not objectively interact with individuals that you experience other focuses with until you have accomplished, in your terms, half or more of your physical focus. It is dependent upon the choices and the probabilities which are actualized.

LETTY: You mentioned before where the essence chooses how to manifest, chooses its parents. Why would somebody ... I’m trying to explain why I as an essence chose my mother, who died before I got to know her? I was twenty months old, so I spent such a short time. Why would I choose something like that?

ELIAS: Your choice of physical parentage involves many aspects in alignment with your intent within each particular focus.

First of all, I express to you that you choose the physical parents that you do for the experience that they may add to your focus. This may be in your terms quite brief. You may hold no objective interaction with these parents at all, for the parents may disengage from physical focus at the moment of your birth. Therefore, the experience that you offer yourself within this choice of parentage is partially subjective, and also you offer yourself specific lineage.

Your intention within manifestation is not always to be interactive with those individuals that you view as your parents. You may choose within an individual focus to have no objective interaction with your parents, but choosing those physical parents for the genetic coding that you offer yourself within this connection; therefore offering yourself a specific heritage that may not be duplicated if you are not manifesting in the manner that you have chosen.

Within your belief systems within this dimension, you are taught many aspects of objective reality which are quite influencing of how you think and feel in relation to relationships of family. In this, you objectively hold expectations of goals to be accomplished within a physical focus. This is a distortion through belief systems which may be confusing to you, but this also serves its purpose within the design of your experience; for within each focus you choose every probability and aspect of action, for that particular experience which you do not previously hold.

LETTY: Is there a point in time where essence decides not to manifest itself physically?

ELIAS: Yes. Each essence choosing to be entering any area of physical focus, any dimension of physical focus, chooses a cycle of manifestation. Within this, each physical dimension, in your terms, holds a requirement of minimal focuses to be accomplished within the action of experience.

Within this dimension you choose within agreement to be manifesting, in the least amount of times, three. You may choose thousands. It is your choice as to the number of focuses that you are wishing to accomplish physically. In this, you choose your focuses and project from essence simultaneously. Therefore, all of your focuses are being accomplished within the now. It is only within your perception that they appear to be past or future. In this action, you also choose when you are wishing to disengage the action of physical manifestation.

Now; you may be choosing to disengage physical manifestation from one dimension and continue within different physical dimensions. You also do accomplish a point, in your terms, that you disengage entirely from the action of physical manifestation. In this, you shall be completely within non-physical focus and completely subjectively aware; holding no objective awareness any longer.

Individuals choosing to not be remanifesting hold a sense within them that they shall not be continuing after the disengagement of this focus, so to speak. Therefore, you shall hold an inner knowing of your final manifestation physically.

LETTY: Are those essences, would they be like, in my physical form, our guides? I’m thinking of my mother who died. I think she’s my guide, but that her essence didn’t remanifest. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: They serve to be helpful. You incorporate the terminology of “guides” as an explanation to yourself. This is a development of a belief system also, as are masters and angels; but they are essences and they do continue, to an extent, interaction with physical focus.

Now, be understanding: If an individual is choosing not to be physically remanifest in your terms, after the point of transition they shall not be interactive with physical focus any longer. Therefore, they hold no more focuses within their essence that are physically manifest, and disengage interaction with physical focus. This is quite complicated for I may also contradict this statement, but you would not understand the action that I would be expressing. Therefore, for your understanding I shall express to you that in your terms, the action of engagement with physical focus continues only until the point that the essence has accomplished the action of transition. Once this is accomplished, this essence shall move into complete subjective activity, and interact with physical focus no longer.

Therefore, you may identify interaction within helpfulness, or what you term to be guidance, of this essence that you have identified in this particular focus which was manifest as your mother; for the action of transition continues. Therefore, the action of interaction with physical focus continues also. Within the action of transition, this focus also has not chosen to this present now of whether to be remanifesting or not. Therefore, the probability still exists for remanifestation. It is only not accomplished within this now.

MARCOS: Elias, could you tell us or talk a little bit about the concept of soul mates? Is that something that exists?

ELIAS: Quite. This is your terminology, also within a recognition, of an action which occurs within essence. You term this in physical focus to be soul mates. In this, it is an identification of a relationship that you hold with another essence, in which you remanifest many times with and hold an intimacy within relationship to this other essence. You also may identify soul mates, within your physical focus at times, to be the relationship of “essence twins,” although within your belief systems you magnate more to the romanticizing of this term of soul mates, in difference to the identification of a soul mate which is a twin.

There does exist within your reality, for you choose to create in this manner, an action of relationships that you hold within many focuses, of another individual in which you exchange places often, in your terms, within what you would view as a romantic relationship. Therefore, although essences choose to be focusing within physical focuses together in groups, not all essences choose this action. Your belief systems dictate to you that all who are manifest within physical focus hold a soul mate, and that you may only not find this soul mate within one particular focus! This is a belief system. It is an interpretation of information that you hold within, of the action of essence.

Not all essences choose to be engaging this type of action and experience. They may choose few focuses to be remanifesting with the same individual, so to speak, or the same aspect of focus which shall remanifest into another focus, and they may choose to be accomplishing this within a romantic relationship, and they may consider themselves to be soul mates also; but in actual recognition of the action that Plato has written of, it would be more extensive and ongoing, in your terms. You would be manifesting within this particular type of relationship many times, as opposed to exchanging relationships and manifesting as parent and child or siblings or friendships or any other type of relationship.

MARCOS: Thank you. Could you tell us our real names, our soul names? I know that Stella talked about she being in the Sumafi.

STELLA: The family.

ELIAS: Very well. First of all, I shall be instructing to you to be availing yourselves of information of essence families which may be presented to you by Lawrence, and you may initially attempt to be offering your alignment with essence families yourselves. If you are not accomplishing this or finding this too difficult, I shall be quite pleased to be offering you information of essence families, but I encourage you to be attempting to be connecting initially yourselves.

I shall offer essence names, which are tones, to you if you are choosing. One moment. (Pause, and to Marcos) Marta. (To Vic) No H. (To Norma) Paul. (To Letty) Castille. (To Vic) C-A-S-T-I-L-L-E.

NORMA: Is that a man or a woman?

ELIAS: No essence holds gender identification. This would be directly related to physical focuses and your interpretation of gender, although within your choices of word and your attachment to gender significance within your choices of word, these would be male, female, male. (Indicating Letty, Marcos, and Norma, in that order)

NORMA: Male? (Elias nods)

STELLA: I think what Marta was telling you about was the family of consciousness, like you told me I was Sumafi with Tumold. So I think in a relationship like that, is that ... are all of us Sumafi? Of course, we all have another one, I think.

ELIAS: Correct. Yes, you do align with Sumafi. (To Vic) Although rearrange word alignment, (to Stella) as you are belonging to the family of Sumafi. (So the first sentence is: “Yes, you do belong to Sumafi.” To clarify: Stella is Sumafi aligned with Tumold. Elias had a little slip of the tongue here)

Now you may investigate which family within this physical focus that you are aligned with, for you shall hold the ability to identify as it shall resonate within you. You shall be offered information to be helpful in your understanding of these essence families, which shall offer you the opportunity to align yourself in conjunction with this particular physical focus to another essence family. This shall also be helpful to you within the investigation of your individual intent within this particular focus, for each family holds an intent. Therefore, this is relative to the family that you align with within an individual focus, for you shall hold this intent also.

NORMA: How is it that two essences that choose to interact so closely here in this life, like with a mother and a daughter, keep on confronting and never resolve issues?

ELIAS: Many times, individuals are choosing to be interacting within focuses in which they exchange roles. All of your other focuses bear influence upon this focus, as this focus also bears influence on all your other focuses. In this, you may be choosing to be manifest in reverse roles, so to speak, with that individual that you view as your parent. Within another focus, you may be the parent and this individual may be the child. You may also hold focuses with this same individual that you may manifest as siblings. In this, you may hold competition, and you may also manifest actions for emotional experiences that within your terms you may not choose to be viewing as quite so positive; although be understanding, there is no negative. It is all experience. Therefore, these experiences also bleed through into this present now within this focus, and influence the interaction that the individuals experience within relationships.

You may be experiencing another focus with an individual which you do not objectify quite comfortably. You may be experiencing much difficulty with this individual within another focus for that experience, and that experience may also bleed through and be influencing in this particular focus, although the energy is rearranged. Therefore, you may not be hateful with the individual, but you may also incorporate conflict.

As you understand more of self and essence and the action of manifestation and all of your focuses, and you also understand more of the reality of belief systems, you shall also become more understanding and tolerant of the relationships that you create, realizing that you create your reality. Every moment of your reality, objective and subjective, you are creating within every moment. Therefore, as you begin to objectively understand these actions and incorporate this as reality, not only as concept, this shall also be influencing to be altering your perception of your experience.

NORMA: And when does it stop, you know? If you don’t understand this, for example in this focus, and then again you choose another focus and do it again, change roles, when will it stop then?

ELIAS: This is not a question of karma! You are not “working out” any actions. Therefore, it discontinues as you choose to discontinue the action! (Grinning, and we all laugh) It only continues as you choose to be continuing the action. Therefore, within any moment you may choose to disengage the action. It is not a case of “carrying over” continued experiences and exchanges within the context of a necessity. It is not necessary. It is a choice, for you choose to be creating of your reality in the manner in which you choose!

You choose each probability. No thing is thrust upon you. No action is required of you. No interaction is necessary to be continued. It is all a choice. You always hold, within every moment of your being, the choice to be altering of your reality, and you may alter it in whichever direction or manner that you choose. Therefore, I suggest to you that you hold tremendous freedom, for you are not bound by these belief systems that dictate to you that you must be interacting within certain guidelines. You do not manifest within the belief system of karma! There are no ongoing focuses that you must experience, for you have experienced previously the opposite. You are not obligated to be experiencing being a victim simply because you have chosen within another focus to be murderous. You may choose not to be a victim. In like manner, you may choose to be a victim and you must not necessarily hold to also experiencing being murderous. It is all of your choice, and that which you choose to be experiencing. (Geez, you don’t have to yell!)

Just as I have stated, you may choose as little, in your terms, as three physical manifestations within agreement in the manifestation of this particular dimension and its cycle, this being only for the experience of sexual orientation; for within this dimension and this physical manifestation, you choose to be manifesting with sexual orientation. Therefore, it is an intimate element of this dimension. Therefore, within entering the cycle of this particular physical dimension, you agree to manifest as male, as female, and as “in between!” (Laughter) Confused! (Grinning) This would be a recognition of homosexual activity, which you all hold. Surprise, surprise!

STELLA: In going back to the choices, why would I have chose ... I mean I chose such an incredible, horrible life! (Elias chuckles) I mean I really did, for so many years! Now I’m free, I’m very free. I’m not a victim any more, but what did I get out of it? You’re saying I could have stopped any time! I know this is my last life, by the way. This is my last manifestation or life. I came here kicking, and I’m just done! So I think maybe I needed to experience all that perhaps, so that I can not come back again? I don’t know!

ELIAS: Ah! Let us not express so that you may not come back again!

STELLA: No, not like that. Maybe like you!

ELIAS: Quite. I shall express to you that many times within a final manifestation ... although it is not a rule! But many times within a final manifestation, the focus chooses much conflict and difficulty.

STELLA: I guess that’s what I did!

ELIAS: (Firmly) This is for their experience, and lending energy to helpfulness within transition to be moving through those very strongly held belief systems.

STELLA: Great! Okay, that explains a lot, that explains a whole lot! So I am within my intent? I am fulfilling my intent?

ELIAS: You are always fulfilling your intent ... always. You do not hold moments in which you are not fulfilling your intent, for if you are not fulfilling your intent and your value fulfillment, you shall disengage the focus. You shall not continue. As you choose to be continuing, you are fulfilling of your value fulfillment and your intent. You only place belief systems of right and wrong and good and bad upon your experiences. Therefore, you confuse yourself in your thinking and you inquire, “Why do I manifest such a horrible reality?”

STELLA: But it was awful. It was awful! It was really bad! I wouldn’t do it again. I will not ever do it again, really! (Laughter)

ELIAS: And as you enter into the area of transition, you may be quite surprised to hear that you have repeated this action many times!

STELLA: Well, I’m sure I have. I have been her mother, I have been her father, and I quit! I totally quit! (We all laugh, including Elias) I could not do it again! And I’m not doing it even in this norm, in this reality, in this focus, and I almost disengage from her entirely, I may say. It’s wonderful! I feel wonderful, but ...

ELIAS: This is your choice, and there is no right or wrong. It is all acceptable.

STELLA: And I have another thing. Here’s another belief system, of compulsion. My personality is very compulsive, addicted. I choose all this stuff. It’s going to sound really stupid but I’m going to ask it anyway. Because see, I thought I was over all of my addictions. I thought I had gone beyond and above already with my addictions. Now ... I mean this is going to sound awful, and I wish this would be scratched out. But anyway, I am addicted to ...

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Personal invalidation! Mark this! (Laughter)

(Vic’s note: Here, I was on the edge of my seat! I’m thinking, what the heck could Stella, of all people, be addicted to???)

STELLA: And I want to know what to do. I have this thing with carrots. I’m turning yellow, and the more I turn yellow ... I mean, people are going to say you’re sick or something! (Laughter) I love carrots! I love carrots, and I have this thing that is driving me up the wall because I can’t stop eating carrots! I’m going to turn really bad yellow, and this is sort of like an addiction type of thing too. I thought I was over it, and it’s bothersome to me.

ELIAS: First of all, let me express to you that you are attaching a negative to this experience. Secondly, you are limiting yourself to the confines of belief systems of cause and effect. Therefore, you also place a negative and non-acceptance upon your experience. At times within certain focuses, certain individuals are choosing what you term to be “compulsive” for the intensity of the stimulus within the experiences. Therefore, it is only that you attach a belief system that this is wrong which denies you.

You do not automatically have to be creating of orange coloring of pigmentation simply for the reason that you are consuming this vegetation! This is a belief system! You may consume whatever you are choosing entirely, and it shall not necessarily be affecting of you physically if you are not aligning with the belief systems that you attach to this. There are many elements within your physical focus that you attach negative belief systems to; expressing that they are harmful, that they are bad, that they are creating of disease, that they are creating of dysfunction, that they are creating of death, that they are creating of discoloration of skin! (Laughter) These are belief systems. No element is creating of this action. It is not a situation of cause and effect.

NORMA: But any excess is a dysfunction, no?

ELIAS: This is a belief system.

NORMA: Everything taken to an excess ... we’re talking here about excesses, no?

ELIAS: Quite, but this is also a belief system. You attach a wrong to excess. Your very word “excess” you attach a negative thought to.

NORMA: But if, for example, you drink too much alcohol or you smoke too much, that’s a reality! You still have that poison in your body. And that’s not a belief, that’s something real!

ELIAS: It is a reality, but only in relation to your belief system!

NORMA: Your belief system? That means something that you believe?

ELIAS: Quite; and as you believe this ...

NORMA: If you don’t believe it’s making you harm, it won’t happen?

ELIAS: Quite. As you believe these things you create them, and they are reality!

NORMA: No, no, no! (And we all crack up)

ELIAS: Ah! We shall be climbing upon our hamster wheel! Continue.

NORMA: It’s very hard. Like I think that if you take someone to an island and you don’t tell that person that if he does something in excess it will harm him ... then you think that it will not harm him? If he does something like if he eats a lot, for example if he eats something which makes him get sick, he will get sick! And nobody will tell him that! Well, we’re talking about excesses, so ...

ELIAS: He may experience getting sick, in your terms, as a response to disliking of some element that he has consumed. This is not an automatic response that is a truth! It is a belief system that you attach to. Belief systems are reality within this dimension! They are your focus. You may not be within physical focus without belief systems! Therefore, they are an intimate part of your creating and your reality; but I also offer to you that you hold great freedom, for you may choose not to be aligning with belief systems and you shall not create what you believe you must create!

NORMA: So if you want to be fat, you are fat. If you want to be thin, you are thin.

ELIAS: Quite.

NORMA: If you believe in that, then.

ELIAS: Quite.

MARCOS: But it’s a little bit like, every victim that is let’s say murdered wants to be? Or puts himself in a position to be?

ELIAS: Yes. I take issue with your terminology of “wanting to be,” for objectively none of you feel the emotion or feeling of wanting to be hurt or to be hurtful, but you do create agreements within essence and you do choose those experiences. They are not accidental, and they are also not random. If you are engaged within the action of being a victim, you have chosen within agreement to be that victim for that experience, for no experience is bad! They are all neutral. They are all merely experiences, and you hold many, many, many focuses within essence experiencing all simultaneously. Therefore, you are experiencing all aspects of this reality, not only within the action of the focusing of your own essence, but also within all of your aspects, all of your counterparts, which may be held within different essences. Therefore in this, it is merely a choice of the probability in which you personally, within an individual focus, choose to be actualizing yourself.

All ... underline all ... experiences are incorporated to you within essence, for you provide yourself with multitudes of avenues to be incorporating experiences. All experiences are experiences. They are not good. They are not bad. They do not hold cause and effect. They do not hold consequence. They are merely experience.

We shall break momentarily, and then you may continue with your questioning.

GROUP: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. (To Norma) I am expressing to you that I am not wishing to be creating conflict with you, or upsetting within your emotional state. I am merely expressing reality.

BREAK 6:32 PM.
RESUME 6:46 PM. (Time was one second)

ELIAS: Continuing. (Smiling at everybody)

LETTY: Well, I have an impossible question, but I’m still going to ask it. Part of making our focuses here easier, to me it seems like, is the part of accepting or understanding. Is there kind of like a short cut? (Both Letty and Elias start laughing) I mean, a lot of times intellectually I understand where I’m wrong and why, but getting down to actually living it makes it ...

ELIAS: First of all, you are not wrong!

LETTY: Okay.

ELIAS: For there is no wrong! You merely choose differently. Each of you chooses to objectify your reality differently. You align with the mass belief system that certain actions or elements of your being are wrong, which they are not. Therefore, you may be initiating by attempting to be accepting of this. You may attempt an exercise, if you are so choosing, to be recognizing each moment throughout your day, that you may “catch yourself” within your belief systems and within the action of non-acceptance of your expression and actualizing the lending in energy to the belief system of right and wrong. In this, you may offer yourself information, which you may recognize how very many times within one of your daytime periods you are invalidating of self, you are not accepting of self, you are expressing non-acceptance of self. You are all quite accomplished at these actions, but if you are recognizing of these actions you may allow yourself the ability, in your terms more quickly, to be engaging your periphery and altering your perception, which shall be influencing of creating more effortlessness within your focus.

Within the beginnings, so to speak, of our sessions, I was offering to the individuals within that forum an exercise, to be not only noting but to physically be writing down every moment that they were invalidating of self or responding within a belief system. You may be responding in what you term to be positive or negative. It matters not. But as you recognize each response, you also may offer yourself information in how you align with belief systems; for you may be responding to an individual which may comment to you that their parent has disengaged physical focus. Their parent has died, and your immediate response within your belief systems may be to be expressing, “Oh, I am so very sorry.” Why??? (Laughter) No negativity has occurred with this individual. This individual has chosen intentionally to be disengaging physical focus. This individual moves to the area of transition and offers themselves more choices. Therefore, why shall you be sorry?

This is a belief system. It is an automatic response, which you do continuously! You may recognize in your response, which you do not view to be negative ... you are being consoling and concerned! But you may recognize in this response that you are also aligning with a mass belief system, and in this you are lending energy to the perpetuation of this mass belief system. You are also reinforcing your own belief system of negative elements attached to the action of death and lending energy to your own belief systems of fearfulness, within one consoling statement.

NORMA: But then you’re talking about denying feeling, about not accepting feelings, because that’s part of the feeling! Like someone leaves this focus, and then you miss that person. It’s not like, “Well, I understand that he went because he wanted to.” But I miss him anyway! So what about that?

ELIAS: This is quite real! I am not ... NOT ... expressing to you to be denying of any of your feelings, any of your emotions, any of your thoughts! I am merely expressing to you to be recognizing the framework which those thoughts and feelings are being expressed within. This is not to say that these are wrong expressions, for there is no wrong. This is not to express to you to deny yourself, for this is your reality! This is not to express to you that you may not offer consolation, within genuine reality in feelings, to another individual. Merely recognize that this expression stems from a belief system.

NORMA: The expression of feelings? The expression of what?

MARCOS: When you say, “I’m sorry.” You know, the first thing you say when somebody is dead is, “Oh, I’m so sorry.”

NORMA: But because you feel it! I’m not talking about you telling me about what I feel. Even if I don’t express “I’m sorry,” I feel that! It’s not like I want you to know that I’m sorry. No. It’s like something internal, you know? I don’t carry the people’s beliefs in my sadness or being nice, but I feel internally, you know? And even though I understand and accept that this person decided to leave because they’ve seen a better world or whatever, I still feel sorry about it. And it’s not a question of saying it. I don’t care if the people believe it or not. I don’t care if they come and tell me, “Oh, poor little Norma.” No. It’s what I feel, and that’s something that even though I can accept it because I see that these people are very well in some other place, I still feel sorry for myself, you know?

ELIAS: Quite.

NORMA: And that’s not something which was expressed to me or that they said, “If a person dies, you should feel sorry,” because maybe my husband dies and I don’t feel sorry about that, you know? They say, “You should feel sorry because your husband died or because your mother died.” Even when people say, “When the mother dies, the daughter must feel sorry,” I don’t feel sorry, maybe. I don’t know.

ELIAS: I am quite understanding of your expression. Attempt to be understanding of what I am offering to you. The entirety of your reality is filtered through belief systems. It matters not that it has been objectively expressed to you. You may not experience, throughout the entirety of one focus, the actual verbal words telling you that you “should” feel this way or that way. You automatically, within your choices of alignment of belief systems, do feel. This particular dimension is quite focused within the experiencing of emotion. Therefore, it is intimately involved in all that you create. In this, your emotions are also influenced by your belief systems. These belief systems, as I have stated, may be also bleed-throughs of your other focuses.

You may not have been objectively taught ... although I express to you that you have been ... that you must be expressing within certain manners. You may still express within this framework, for you align with the mass belief systems. Let me express to you that many individuals do not hold objectively what they term to be any religious involvement throughout the entirety of their focus. They may express to you that they have never, in their terms, been to a religious establishment, and that their parents have never discussed religion of any type with them. You shall still hold religious belief systems, for your culture is based upon religious belief systems. Therefore, it bleeds through into your consciousness, and you are accepting of this. Your culture expresses to you, “You may not murder another individual. This is wrong.” This is a direct response to religious belief systems.

You may not interact with another individual expressing to you that when your mother disengages physical focus, you must be sad. You may automatically, genuinely feel sad. This is a reality. This is also a filtering through belief systems. You do not always hold objective awareness or identification of what these belief systems are, but they exist for they are your reality. You may respond quite differently and your husband may expire and you may not be sad, which shall also be influenced by a belief system; for if you are not sad at the disengagement of an individual, you must have been not very pleased with this individual! (Laughter) And if you are sad, you must be quite attached to this individual and missing them, for you believe--key word!--that you have disengaged interaction with them. If you understood that there is no separation, your emotion would not be affected; but this also is for your experience, for this dimension incorporates emotional experiences. Therefore, it is not wrong or right within your response. It merely is your response, and it is valid, and it is reality.

(Firmly) I do not express to you to be denying of this reality but to be accepting of this reality, only noticing the belief systems which are influencing of these expressions; not holding judgment upon the belief systems, but allowing yourself the opportunity to identify the affectingness of the belief systems. For within the action of your shift, you shall not be accomplishing your shift in consciousness if you are not identifying belief systems initially and accepting their existence. You may not accept a belief system if you do not identify that it exists! The object of the shift is to be accepting of belief systems. (Turning and staring directly at Vic) I am understanding you are quite enjoying of this action! (Laughter)

This action of acceptance of belief systems you shall be finding very difficult, but you may not engage the action of acceptance at all if you have not allowed yourself the awareness that belief systems exist, and that they are influencing of every aspect of your reality, and all of your reality is filtered through your belief systems. This is not to say you may not experience at times--not often-- actions or responses that are outside of your belief systems, for you may. You may experience infrequently the objectification of certain actions which are subjective bleed-throughs which are not directly influenced or filtered through your belief systems, although within another respect they are influenced by the belief systems of the mass consciousness; for if the mass consciousness in its entirety does not hold a belief system of the possibility to be accomplishing an action, it shall not be accomplished. It shall be blocked.

If the mass, entirely, of consciousness is not accepting of the possibility of the materialization of extra-terrestrials, you shall not, any of you, materialize an extra-terrestrial! You may not hold a belief system which acknowledges this extra-terrestrial and you may encounter this action, for energy is lent to its objectification through the mass. Therefore, within your particular creation of this action, you may not necessarily be objectifying filtering through your own belief systems within that particular focus. You may pulling an experience to be speaking to you which is outside of the confines of your own belief systems, but it is filtered through the belief systems of the mass which you are also connected to.

Therefore, I express to you that although you may pull experiences to you which reach outside of your individual belief systems, no thing is objectified within your reality which is not within the confines of belief systems, for they are influenced also by the mass.

MARCOS: Elias, I understand that the essence chooses three or thousands of focuses. At some point, the essence chooses not to have another focus, and what happens then? The way I see it is, perhaps once that need of the essence or that choosing of the essence is complete in this particular dimension, there are other dimensions that the essence then focuses on? And is there a purpose to all this other than having experiences?

ELIAS: The purpose within consciousness is quite simple. Within essence and within consciousness, you are within a continuous state of becoming. This is a continuous state of exploration of self, of consciousness, expanding continuously, never ending. You may be choosing many actions within the disengagement of any particular physical cycle within any particular dimension. You may not hold focuses within all dimensions within this present now, and you may choose to be disengaging from those dimensions in which you are focused and you may choose to be experiencing other cycles of physical manifestation within other dimensions if you wish, for your experience and your exploration; or you may be choosing to not remanifest within any physical dimension. In respect to this action, you shall move into areas of non-physical focus and be experiencing within the actions of these areas of consciousness, which are endless. (Pause)

MARCOS: Okay ...

ELIAS: This would merely be your choice of your own exploration and your own becoming, which is also not separated from the all of consciousness and its state of becoming, for you are not “sections.” You only camouflage within your perception into physical focuses which may lend the appearance of separation, but you are not separated.

STELLA: Elias, I want to ask you something. Now, on your side, how do you see us? How do you see me?

ELIAS: (Closing eyes and humming) I am accessing my side! (Much laughter) For there are no sides! Therefore, I must find a side first! (Grinning)

You visualize. You engage physical senses, which you may express are outer and inner senses. Therefore, your perception is acquired through all of these senses, for this is an element of your physical manifestation.

Within the area of consciousness which this aspect of this essence of Elias is focused ... for this essence is focused in all areas of non-physical focus, but you interact with this aspect of this essence. I would express to you that you interact with one aspect of this essence, although at times I may be exchanging and you may be interacting with different aspects of this essence that may be difficult for you to identify the differences within, although at times you may be recognizing of slight differences if you are paying attention. But in this, this essence filters through many layers of consciousness to be actualizing this energy exchange and interacting with you. Although I hold the ability to focus energy through this physical body consciousness and access its physical senses and I may visualize you within the form that you project, I do not choose for the most part to be expelling this concentration of focused energy in this manner. Therefore, the visual incorporation within this body consciousness during the action of this exchange is quite different from that which Michael experiences as he is interacting with you and looking at you.

I do not focus upon your physical projection of form, for it is unnecessary. I am aware of your energy and your consciousness. I am aware of your expression within thought and feeling, within your manipulation of energy in this dimension and this present now. I do not “see” you as you see yourself within your mirror. I visualize only an energy pattern, which may be described in your terms as vibrational waves. This projects your tone and all of your aspects. Therefore, I hold awareness of all of your aspects also, within this exchange and interaction with you.

The concentration of energy which must be translated through many layers of consciousness to be actualizing this exchange is quite intense. Therefore, I choose not to be flowing more energy for unnecessary action than is needed, for this is quite affecting of Michael within the time framework of this energy exchange. Therefore, I limit the influx of energy directed to this body consciousness merely for exchange of energy; not concentrating upon manipulation of physical body expressions, only to limited degrees, for it is unnecessary. I may be walking about if I am so choosing within this body form, but this is an unnecessary direction of energy which is affecting. Therefore, I choose to limit the concentration of energy. In this, Michael holds difficulty already within the accomplishment of this energy exchange, and I view no necessity to be increasing of this.

STELLA: Thank you.

ELIAS: Be assured I see, in your terms, the you of you.

STELLA: Gosh, I wish I could see that myself! (Laughing)

ELIAS: You may!

STELLA: I have quite a distorted view of myself! (Elias chuckles)

MARCOS: Could you, Elias, talk to us a little bit about the concept of what we call past, present and future all happening in the now? That’s a concept that I have a lot of trouble dealing with.

ELIAS: Ah, and you are in good company! (Laughter) For all other individuals upon your planet, with exception of Siman, have difficulty with this concept also! (1)

Within non-physical areas of consciousness and reality, there is no time framework. This is not to say that there is no energy of time as an aspect of creativity of consciousness. It merely is to say that there is no experience of time frameworks. Therefore, there is no recognition of past or future or present. This is a construct of physical focuses. Within each dimension, time is manifest into a physical construct dimension of its own. In this, it is created within each dimension to be lending to the actualization of the experience of that particular physical dimension. It is a construct of consciousness to be actualizing your reality within the manner that you have chosen to be actualizing. Therefore, within this particular dimension, you hold the framework of linear time. This is not an illusion. This is reality, but it is reality relative to this dimension and this physical focus. It is not relative to other physical focuses within other physical dimensions. It is not relative to non-physical areas of consciousness. It is merely a construct in its design within this particular dimension.

The element of time within consciousness is redesigned and reconstructed within energy in many different manners, dependent upon the dimension. Therefore, the experience of the element of time is different. Some time frameworks within some dimensions, in your terms within your perception, may be very, very fast, much faster than you perceive your own to be. Some may be very, very slow, much slower than your own perception. Some may be quite convoluted, in your terms, for they may be much more like your dream framework of time, which does not necessarily follow a linear pattern, but it also incorporates a time framework of its own. It is different than your waking objective perception of time, but it is another manifestation of a time framework. You have chosen within this dimension, for the reason of memory understanding, to be creating of a time framework which moves within a linear pattern. This offers you the opportunity to be recalling events and action within your focus, within your dimension. This allows you the opportunity to recall events within your past history. It also serves for motivation in curiosity, which you inundate yourselves with within this dimension, to your future. It allows you an anticipation, an excitement and motivation, to be creating newly within what you view to be future.

This, although being a reality within this dimension, is also a camouflage action of consciousness, of essence. It is an intentional creation for your experience within this dimension. You hold the ability to access future and past. You interact subjectively with what you think of as future and past. All is now. It is a perception of “not now.” It occurs within every action within the now. Therefore, your future is affecting of your past, your past is affecting of your future, your present is altering of your past and your future, and this may extend in whichever direction you are choosing to be thinking of, (laughter) for it is all now! Therefore, you hold the ability to be altering of all realities within this present now; this being how you may be accomplishing certain actions within your objective perception of now that may be being inserted from your future, so to speak. You may also alter your future, and an action that is occurring within your future, by altering an action presently now within your past.

STELLA: So that means we’re quite powerful!

ELIAS: Quite. (Smiling) You are essence. Therefore, you hold no limitations other than those that you place upon yourself within the confines of belief systems, for the purity of your experience within this dimension. But you hold the ability within this dimension to be accessing of any area of consciousness; this being why I express to you that you are magnificent beings and that there are no ascended masters, for what shall ascend beyond you? (Laughter) For you are all! What may be beyond all? (More laughter)

STELLA: I may be flying next, I swear to God! (Cracking up)

ELIAS: You may choose this action also, if you are wishing!

STELLA: I have tapped a little bit of that powerfulness!

ELIAS: This may be quite overwhelming to you within your objective awareness!

STELLA: Yes, very much so! Oh, gosh, thank you so much!

LETTY: Thank you very much, Elias.

MARCOS: Thank you.

ELIAS: Are you wishing no more questions this day?

NORMA: We’ve got a lot to think about!

STELLA: Yeah, I’ve got a lot of questions now! (Elias chuckles) Thank you, Elias.

NORMA: Thank you.

ELIAS: I shall be anticipating encountering exchange with you all futurely, and I shall be disengaging from you this day and expressing quite affectionately, au revoir!

Elias departs at 7:33 PM.

Vic’s note: There was a pop-in about fifteen minutes after this session, in which Elias reminded me to give these folks information about the essence families. I found it interesting that everybody was so involved in conversation that the pop-in went unnoticed.


(1) Elias has humorously given Bob (Siman) the title of “Simultaneous Time Man,” saying that he is the only human on the planet to be accepting and therefore understanding the concept of simultaneous time. We have since presented an official certificate to Bob acknowledging his achievement. Bob’s essence name was first given as Simon, which he has since changed to Siman (Si-man) for this reason. This explanation is offered in full seriousness, with no tongue-in-cheek intended. (And if you “believe” that, you need to examine your own belief systems!)

Digests: find out more about simultaneous time.

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