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Thursday, February 17, 2000

<  Session 563 (Private/Phone)  >

“Religious/Metaphysical Beliefs”


Participants: Mary (Michael) and Joe (Holden).

Elias arrives at 10:37 AM. (Arrival time is 26 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JOE: Good morning! (Elias chuckles)

Elias, today I have some questions here from other folks. If you’d be willing to answer them, it would be appreciated.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOE: Okay. The one lady’s name is Helen. She is the president of a university for metaphysical studies. She has asked me if you could tell her what her essence name is, her family, her alignment, and her orientation. (Pause)

ELIAS: I shall offer to you in a slightly different manner this day in relation to this particular individual. In response to this questioning, I shall offer the essence families and I shall offer the orientation, but I shall abstain upon the delivery of essence name purposefully, temporarily. For I shall express to you that you may offer to this individual the challenge first to present to me the essence name which this individual holds, for this individual allows her impressions to be flowing quite freely at times, and may also allow herself to be connecting with objectively this tone of essence, and subsequently, I shall offer validation or adjustment to the impression which she has allowed herself. Are you understanding?

JOE: Yes, perfectly.

ELIAS: Very well. Essence family, Sumafi.

JOE: Sumafi?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOE: Okay.

ELIAS: Alignment, Ilda. Orientation in this focus, common.

JOE: Okay. I will relate that to her, and we’ll see what happens.

Now, the second question comes from a lady named Jennifer, who from what I understand at the present time is in the Middle East, and she would like to know what you know about a person called “The Mother,” who is a French lady with a named spelled Mirra, M-I-R-R-A. (Pause)

ELIAS: Very well. You may express to Margarite, this individual has incorporated an introduction of other factors, in a manner of speaking, to be viewing other elements of reality in conjunction with religious belief systems. The individual has incorporated what you may term to be personal experiences and the study, in a manner of speaking, of other individuals and their experiences in conjunction with religious belief systems in that particular culture in that location of your planet.

In this, the culture incorporates a sect, so to speak, of the religious belief systems that permeate that particular physical country, and this individual, in conjunction with what she herself had viewed as her teacher, has allowed herself to be investigating what you in this time framework would be identifying as elements of psychic phenomenon, so to speak, although this individual was not interpreting in those particular terms, but incorporating those types of experiences in conjunction with the religious principles.

Therefore, there has been allowed an incorporation of an expansion of experience in a slightly different manner than is presented merely in the philosophy and the doctrine of the religion itself.

In this, there has been in her teaching, in a manner of speaking, an encouragement of incorporating experiences that move in conjunction with widening awareness in this physical reality, incorporating more of an objective ability for mobility within consciousness, but not necessarily entirely within the constraints of the religious belief system.

This individual also has allowed a movement in incorporating some information in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, and the introduction of that type of awareness into a harmonious position, in a manner of speaking, with the religious precepts. Therefore, there has been an allowance in the movement of this individual of the incorporation of concepts and experiences also in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, and the development, so to speak, of that type of movement in relation to religious belief systems.

Now; this in actuality is what you may view to be an interesting study within physical focus, for generally speaking, religious belief systems that are incorporated within any of you in physical focus, and the movement of energy in conjunction with religious belief systems in groups, moves singularly in the directedness of the philosophy of the particular religion, in a manner of speaking.

Even within the movement of beliefs in the direction of metaphysics in this time framework, there is a singularity in the philosophy, and there is a lack of acceptance of any incorporation of any other type of philosophy or experience which may appear to be different or not to fit, in a manner of speaking, with the philosophy which is accepted as the main. Are you understanding thus far?

JOE: A little bit.

ELIAS: Let me offer to you an example ... or two! (Chuckling)

In the philosophy of metaphysics, there is an unwillingness to incorporate experiences or concepts or beliefs that objectively, physically appear to the individual to be different from those which are set forth in the design of metaphysics.

An individual that incorporates the belief in the concepts of metaphysics shall be unwilling to objectively incorporate the religious beliefs of Islam or Christianity or any other organization of what they view to be as religious, for they differentiate themselves as non-religious, and therefore there is a lack of acceptance or willingness to be incorporating the philosophy or the experience or the concepts of religious beliefs in conjunction with metaphysical beliefs.

Individuals generally do not exhibit an objective willingness to move in directions of explorations to be examining the similarities or incorporating a type of harmony with these different expressions – or perceived different expressions – of experience and concepts.

In like manner, the religious philosophy which is incorporated in this particular country and culture in which Margarite is participating presently, they also do not incorporate a willingness to be objectively viewing the harmony or the similarity in other experiences and philosophy which moves outside of their individual doctrine.

Therefore, the incorporation of this individual and other individuals that this particular individual associated with physically, objectively, is a movement into an incorporation of other experiences and concepts and philosophy which are pulled from outside, in a manner of speaking, of the accepted religious beliefs, and therefore opening an avenue for an expansion in understanding and widening of awareness in conjunction with this shift in consciousness. (Pause)

JOE: Okay. Is that all you have to say about that particular question?


JOE: Okay. Now, she also asks about another individual called Sri-Aurovindo. It’s spelled S-R-I dash A-U-R-O-V-I-N-D-O. This person evidently works in conjunction with, or in a partnership maybe, with Mirra.

ELIAS: This individual may be identified, in the terms of the religious beliefs, as the teacher or the master, and the other individual has become another teacher, but has been the student, in a manner of speaking. This is the incorporation of what you would term to be the merging of east and west – the merging of the religious beliefs and the incorporation of experiences and concepts that are in some elements different, or deviate from the religious concepts.

Therefore, as these two individuals created a type of relationship within their focus, there has been an incorporation of allowance, in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, to be incorporating a recognition of harmony and expansion of awareness in relation to religious beliefs and experience and concepts that may not necessarily be entirely incorporated in the religious doctrine. (Pause)

JOE: Okay. Now I have a question, and I know you’ve given this information before in different ways, but if you would encapsulate for me. How exactly does essence differentiate itself from all of consciousness? How does essence individualize itself?

ELIAS: Through energy personality. The creation and incorporation of personality in energy is the expression of individuality and identity, in a manner of speaking. This, in consciousness, is expressed through a vibrational quality, but it is mirrored within your physical dimension in the physical expression objectively of your personality within your manifestations of....

JOE: So that would be a focus personality?

ELIAS: The focus personalities are individual attentions of essence, and are all qualities and expressions of essence.

Now; let me express to you, each individual focus incorporates ALL of essence. Therefore, it incorporates all of the qualities of all other focuses.

JOE: Okay, but this is encapsulated within the individual identity of a given essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOE: Okay.

ELIAS: And in this, the essence itself is not what you would term to be an individual entity, separate and apart from consciousness or any other essence. There is merely a quality of consciousness, in a manner of speaking, which identifies itself in vibrational tone to be a personality, and that personality is the identification of an individual essence. It is the identity or the energy signature, so to speak, of an individual essence.

JOE: Okay. Now, in what ways or exactly how does essence manipulate energy?

ELIAS: In relation to?

JOE: Is energy separate and apart from essence? Is it a part of essence? Is it an integral part, not to be differentiated from essence?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, Holden, you think to yourselves of energy in this physical dimension as being an entity, as being a thing. I express to you that consciousness is, figuratively speaking, the thing that manifests and creates things, so to speak, within your reality.

Energy is movement. Energy is motion. Therefore, energy is an action rather than a thing. Although within your physical dimension, as I have stated, you identify energy as a thing, in actuality it is all of movement. It is the action of movement.

Therefore, in relation to essence, it is the movement of essence. In relation to consciousness, it is the quality of consciousness. It may not be separated from consciousness, for this is the state of consciousness continuously, for it is movement.

JOE: Okay. You had made a statement to me before, in a previous session that we had. You explained matter as energy passing through energy. Now, in that statement, basically what we’re saying here is that energy is the movement and the motion of consciousness, and that the movement of energy or consciousness through consciousness creates the materialization, as we know it objectively, of matter.

ELIAS: In relation to time.

JOE: In relation to time. Okay. I think that explains it pretty well.

ELIAS: Time is an integral element in the creation of physical matter.

JOE: Okay, alright.

Elias, I’m on a time constraint today, so I want to thank you very, very much for this interaction and the information that you’ve given to me, and also for these other individuals – Margarite and Helen.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, and I anticipate our continuation in our discussions.

Offer this challenge to the individual of which you initially spoke. She shall understand. (Chuckling)

JOE: Now, the challenge that you gave me was for her basically to determine for herself what her essence name is, and then you would either validate or invalidate that assumption.

ELIAS: Not invalidate, but offer an adjustment.

JOE: Okay; offer an adjustment.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOE: Okay. I’ll be sure to put it in exactly those terms.

ELIAS: For this individual already leans in the direction of allowance within her impressions as to the vibrational quality of essence and the translation of essence tone. (Chuckling

JOE: Okay, and I will be very careful to put it in exactly that way when I talk to her.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOE: Thanks again, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. As always, I bid to you tremendous affection, and anticipation of our next meeting.

JOE: Thank you. Take care.

ELIAS: Au revoir, my friend.

Elias departs at 11:10 AM.

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