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Tuesday, March 28, 2000

<  Session 588 (Private/Phone)  >

ďThe Power of PerceptionĒ

ďLearning vs. ExploringĒ

ďThe Art of AcceptanceĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anony (Mous).

Elias arrives at 1:34 PM. (Arrival time is 16 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning, Mous!

ANONY: Good morning, Elias! How are you?

ELIAS: As always!

ANONY: As always! (Laughing)

ELIAS: And yourself?

ANONY: Iím doing pretty good, in spite of it all! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) The last time we spoke, it was January 2nd, and I was getting ready to go to court. And I did feel your energy that day as I walked into court! I was completely relaxed. I was not intimidated. I was not embarrassed. I was not afraid. It was wonderful to get through that experience!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And you have accomplished!

ANONY: Yes, and I have to go to court again tomorrow! (Laughing)


ANONY: Tomorrow, Iím not exactly sure what we have to do. I think I might have to enter a plea tomorrow. Iím hoping we can put that off a little longer, but maybe not.

February 6, I moved out of my house because my landlord was raising my rent and it was going to be too expensive, and Iíve been like a gypsy ever since! (Laughing) Iíve been in three different motels, and with two different friends, and now Iím with a third friend. I finally found a place to live this weekend, but itís been ... well, it certainly has widened my perception, Iíll say that! (Laughing)

ELIAS: A creation of a new adventure!

ANONY: Yes, it has been!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

ANONY: Some of the time I havenít been pleased with it at all, and finally, it must have been about two weeks ago, when once again I needed to go to a motel in between trying to find places to stay, and I checked into the motel, and I sat there for 20 minutes and sort of freaked out, and then I finally just said to myself, you know what? I trust myself. I know that I am creating perfectly. Even though at this moment in time it doesnít look perfect to me, I know that I am creating perfectly, and I trust myself, and like Iíve heard you say, I will never betray myself. So, that sort of turned things around when I thought that, when I was sitting there thinking about that.

For the last two weeks, Iíve been staying with someone who I havenít seen for ages. She used to be my motherís best friend. Her name is Dorothy, and sheís great, and she has an extra bedroom that Iíve been staying in. Itís been really neat getting together with her, having not seen her for years. Iíve been talking to her about you a little bit, and I had the funniest experience last Sunday. I said, ďDo you want to hear one of my Elias tapes?Ē and she said, ďSure,Ē probably just being polite. I think she WAS just being polite, because I put it in her tape deck, and the tape deck wouldnít play, and then it ate the tape! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: Apparently, she didnít really want to hear it! (Laughing) It was rather humorous. And then she went to bed, and I went out on the patio to have a cigarette, and Iím sitting there, and Iím right next to the kitchen window, and I look, and the kitchen light suddenly goes on all by itself, and thereís nobody in the kitchen! (Laughing) It was on for probably 30 or 40 seconds, and then it just went off again!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! And this is your acknowledgment!

ANONY: Yes, I interpreted it that way. Thatís how it felt, and it wasnít scary or weird. It was just kinda, oh, hi Elias! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: So, I did have a couple of questions, like I want to ask you about this latest thing with Dorothy. She is 70 going on 40 Ė she has incredible energy! About ten years ago, she had a little spot on her lung, and she had her lung removed and she almost died, and then about five years ago, she had Legionnaireís Disease, and she was in the hospital for three months and she almost died from that. I guess she is not wanting to disengage, or sheís playing with it ... I donít know exactly WHAT my question is! I guess my question is, number one, what is her essence name, and do Dorothy and I have any other focuses together? (Short pause)

ELIAS: Yes, you do participate in other focuses together, which you may be investigating, if you are so choosing. This individual holds the essence name of Preston....

ANONY: Preston?

ELIAS: Correct. And I shall express to you that you have been offering yourself experiences that offer you the opportunity to objectively view the occurrences of altering your perception, in your interactions and within your creations individually in self.

ANONY: Iíve certainly been offering myself a lot of new experiences lately, which HAS affected my perception. Iím always astonished at how resilient I am! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) Something comes along, and itís like, oh no, I just couldnít possibly stand that! And then a couple of days later, itís like, well, this isnít so bad! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I shall express to you, this is all dependent upon your perception!

Your perception is a tremendously powerful tool. It matters not what you are creating in actual physical manifestations. Regardless of your choice of expression, all of your creations physically change from moment to moment. Your perception is your interpretation of all that you create, and THIS does not necessarily change from moment to moment.

ANONY: Right. I want to ask you about my stepfather. Heís been dead now for 25 years probably, and his name was Roger. This will probably sound strange, but when I was about 22 Ė he probably died when I was 23 Ė I was out with a girlfriend of mine, having a drink at a bar, and he walked in and joined us. Then the girlfriend left, and I was just talking and having a drink with him, and I had the feeling that had he not been my stepfather, he would have been my lover. Nothing like that ever happened Ė it was just this feeling that in some other focus, we probably had an intimate relationship.

ELIAS: You are correct, and this is an allowance of a bleed-through of energy.

In this, I shall express to you also, there is significance in allowing yourself to recognize your energy and your movement within this focus, identifying yourself in the position that you are occupying and the role that you choose within a particular focus, in a manner of speaking.

In this, it is quite similar to the functioning of your physical body as your physical manifestation of your attention of essence.

In this, you identify clearly your finger and you identify clearly your leg. You do not confuse your finger with your leg, or their functions.

I have addressed many times to individuals in expressing the importance of focusing their attention upon self, and allowing yourselves to familiarize yourself with YOUR energy.

In this, as you do allow yourself to identify YOUR energy in THIS focus, you may also allow yourself the distinguishment of yourself in other focuses. This allows you the objective ability to be recognizing as you incorporate these bleed-throughs and not become confused with the energy which is occurring, for at times you allow bleed-throughs of energy that are being expressed in the same manner that they are occurring and being experienced in another focus. You may not necessarily be reconfiguring that energy.

Therefore, at times you may incorporate the same type of experience in your focus that you are experiencing in another focus, but in this focus, it does not fit.

ANONY: Right. I see what youíre saying.

ELIAS: Therefore, there is importance in your ability objectively to be identifying YOUR expression of energy, and all energies that are expressed differently in a slightly different quality.

ANONY: Iíve created some interesting imagery with my dog, and I think Iíve actually identified what it was. I have this little dog, and I had to put her in a kennel when I moved, and sheís been in a kennel since February 26. I havenít gone to see her because it will hurt too much to see her and then leave her, and every time Iíve thought about her, Iíve felt terrible. Itís like, oh, my poor little doggie, she feels so abandoned, blah blah blah, and I went on and on like that. And then one day I was driving home from work, and she was running through my mind, and it was like, boom. I realized Ė or I think I realized Ė that actually, those feelings that I think sheís feeling, those are my feelings that Iíve projected onto her.

ELIAS: You are correct, and this is an example of how you ďpeople-izeĒ your creatures.

ANONY: Yes, and once I realized that, it was all better! (Laughing) I realized that my poor little doggie was not sitting there wondering where I am and feeling abandoned. Iím the one thatís feeling that way! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) Once I realized that, I didnít feel bad about it anymore, and in fact, Iím moving this weekend, and Iím going to get her and have her with me! It was nice to see that!

ELIAS: I shall express to you also, this is quite common within physical focus, that individuals draw to themselves certain creatures that align in energy with you, and this creates an ease in exchange, that you create this action of ďpeople-izing.Ē

But this is also at times quite purposeful, for it allows you a type of outlet of energy to be projecting in relation to the creature, which is in agreement with you in energy and is accepting of your projection, and may many times mirror your energy back to you.

ANONY: Huh! Iíll have to think about that with Bear. You know, itís funny what people say Ė that people end up getting dogs that look like them, and in fact, they do sometimes, and really, what weíre talking about now is a real logical explanation for it!

ELIAS: Quite!

ANONY: Yeah! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Many times also....

ANONY: My dog looks like me in a way, I suppose. Sheís small, and ... (laughing, and Elias chuckles). She does have my personality. Sheís kind of bitchy sometimes! (Laughing)

ELIAS: I shall express to you that many times, the personality may be even more obviously expressed than the actual physical persona or physical projection of appearance.

Individuals draw to themselves quite specific creatures that shall be interactive with them individually in quite specific manners. You shall draw to yourself creatures that shall be compliant and responsive to your expression of orientation, and also to your choice of personality.

ANONY: The other thing Iíve created lately that I havenít quite figured out Ė I think I might know Ė is, my right hand, the little finger Ė and the ring finger to some extent, but mostly the little finger Ė about two weeks ago they started feeling like tingly, like they were asleep. Itís not that I canít use them Ė I can. Theyíre not quite as ... it feels different. Itís not paralyzed, itís not really impaired, itís ... well, itís hard to explain. But I know I created that within the context of all the stuff thatís going on in my life now, and Iím wondering if that is to tell me or to show me sort of a ďstuckness,Ē like part of me having difficulty moving on and being stuck?

ELIAS: No. This is an offering that you are providing to yourself in physical affectingness in relation to perception.

It is an objective example that you are creating. You have chosen the fingers as an element of your physical body that are not extremely interruptive of your movement or your creations, but this is also an element of your physical body that you do not afford a tremendous expression of attention to normally.

Without actual physical affectingness of your fingers, these are extremities that you pay little attention to.

ANONY: Right. I donít pay attention to anything on me unless itís bothering me! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Quite. These fingers are also not tremendously affecting of your mobility or your ability to be creating within your reality.

ANONY: If youíre using a computer a lot, they are! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Partially.

ANONY: I mean, I can use a computer. They just feel a little odd, and I would like it to go away and go back to normal, which it will.

ELIAS: What I am expressing to you is that you have not immobilized them. You have merely created a sensation that draws your attention to their presence.

ANONY: Correct.

ELIAS: Therefore, they continue to function, but you are also drawing your attention to an area that you do not usually afford attention. The reason that you have created this is to be offering yourself an example, within this time framework, of perception.

Your perception is quite influenced by your attention. It is influenced, as you are aware, by your beliefs, but what you create through your perception in your reality is also dependent upon your attention, for beliefs that you are not paying attention to in certain time frameworks are less affecting in those moments.

ANONY: Oh, I get it. Yes, right, Ďcause what youíre paying attention to is what youíre lending energy to.

ELIAS: Quite, and what you perpetuate in your creation.

ANONY: Aha, yes.

ELIAS: As you pay attention to the sensation within your fingers, you continue to create it.

ANONY: Ah, okay! (Laughing) Makes sense. I have always been very healthy my entire life. I mean, I donít get colds, Iíve never been in an accident, Iíve never had surgery, because itís not something I concentrate on. I guess when I was growing up, there was never any payoff for being ill. Once in a while Iíll start to get a cold or something, and after about three hours I get very bored and impatient with it. So, Iíve been lucky that way. Well, itís not luck, I know. I create that!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: I much prefer to torture myself emotionally. Thatís my big thing, apparently! (Laughing)


ANONY: But itís getting better, itís really getting better! (Elias chuckles) I mean, I did find a place to live, but for a while I was looking at places and nothing was right and I was getting frustrated, and then I realized that the reason I hadnít found anything yet was because what I had looked at was not what I was creating. I was creating something more to my liking, and in fact, I did! (Laughing)

Itís kinda funny because months and months ago, I was thinking Iíd really love to move to Boulder, Colorado, and I was visualizing a room with lots of windows and being able to see mountains and trees, and the place Iím moving to this weekend is a share-rental. I get a bedroom, a bathroom, and a great big front room, and the front room is all windows on one side, and itís got a view of mountains and trees! (Laughing) Itís not in Boulder, but itís got the view that I was thinking about three months ago.

ELIAS: This also is an example to you of how you may be influencing your creations in allowing for an ease, and not PUSHING the energy.

ANONY: Yes. (Elias chuckles) Yeah, the breakthrough seemed to come about two weeks ago, when I just decided that I might as well trust myself because there wasnít anybody else to trust, frankly; that I was it, so I might as well just accept that and start using it to my advantage.

ELIAS: And I shall express to you, this also holds an element of significance, for as you refer to this specific time framework, many, many, many individuals have been experiencing differences, alterations, new occurrences, extremes, within this time framework of your expression of two weeks.

ANONY: Oh, the last two weeks?

ELIAS: Yes. Many, many individuals are experiencing differences within their reality, and questioning Ė or merely noticing Ė the actions that are occurring within this time framework.

In actuality, you have created another energy surge of insertion of this shift in consciousness into your objective awareness within this time framework of two weeks, which is affecting of many individuals in objective manners, in which some individuals are experiencing tremendous expressions of conflict.

Some individuals are experiencing tremendous expressions of ease, and may identify that elements within their reality are turning and moving more positively, in their assessment, or....

ANONY: And thatís the way Iíve felt for the last two weeks, like I finally started moving out of the feeling of being stuck, and things started happening. I actually saw that I was creating something that I had intended to create, rather than knowing Iím creating, but not objectively understanding what Iím creating.

ELIAS: Quite.

ANONY: Iíve also noticed in the last couple of weeks that I notice things much more, things that ... like running into somebody that I havenít seen for five years normally would go right by me. Now when that happens, I stop and think, hmm! (Laughing) Because itís like I donít believe in coincidences, and it seems that Iíve noticed things lately that would ... if I pay attention, they allow me more choices.

ELIAS: You are correct, and this is a key word that is being incorporated by many, many, many individuals within this time framework that you have expressed, that of noticing. Many different types of expressions are being noticed.

I shall express to you that it is not merely expressions of conflict or ease, but many other manifestations in relation to this shift in consciousness are being allowed expression Ė and the noticing of the expression Ė within your objective reality.

Individuals are viewing essences. Individuals are experiencing less of a barrier between themselves objectively and those individuals that have disengaged physical focus. Individuals are engaging playfulness in hide and seek with objects! (Grinning)

ANONY: (Laughing) That sounds like a fun game!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! The disappearing/appearing game, (laughing) within the alteration of physical matter!

Individuals are experiencing many occurrences within this time framework in relation to this shift in consciousness, as you are creating surges of energy to be thrusting this shift into your objective awareness and reality.

Therefore, this creates a movement of energy which is lending much of an ease to these types of expressions, although in some situations, these expressions are also creating elements of trauma, as individuals confuse themselves and create expressions of fear in relation to what they are participating within.

You may also be noticing within this time framework, individuals may appear to be encountering what they assess as extraterrestrials more often.

ANONY: Ah, yes. Hmm. Iíve never experienced that. Iíve never seen it. I guess itís just not something Iím terribly interested in. Iím not drawn to that, particularly.

ELIAS: And this matters not. You shall allow yourself to participate in the insertion of elements into your objective reality in which you hold your attention and which lend energy to an ease in the choices that YOU are creating.

But I may express that you may encounter stories from other individuals that may objectively appear quite bizarre, and they are in actuality occurring presently! Ha ha ha!

ANONY: The place that Iím moving this weekend, the guy that owns it is 52, and heís a sports editor for the local newspaper, and heís got an 18-year-old son. I have my own private space, but there will be interaction, and I guess itís for my benefit and theirs. Otherwise, we wouldnít be doing it, huh! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Correct. In this, you offer yourself many opportunities in this creation, of interaction and also in the opportunity to be paying attention to self Ė to your behavior, to your creations, and to your choices in this environment, so to speak.

ANONY: Iíve noticed my behavior a lot in the last couple of months, because having stayed with a couple different people, Iíve noticed that as time has progressed, I have become a much better guest! (Laughing) In other words, Iím more aware of other people and what their preferences are. It happens to be their house! Itís nice to follow their preferences. They appreciate that.

ELIAS: Ah. This also allows you the opportunity, in interaction with other individuals, to be noticing of self and to be noticing of YOUR preferences also.

ANONY: Yes. I thought I had my preferences down pretty well, but the first place I stayed turned out to be a disaster. One of the guys was using some kind of drug, and it was something that affected him so that he was really pretty scary, and thatís why I left there. Plus, it was uncomfortable. It was like, I know I was judging him a whole bunch and I know he was judging me a whole bunch, and we would smile at each other and try to make small talk, but in reality, the judgmental feelings and the conflict that was below the surface were so loud that it just didnít feel good. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: In this, it is helpful information that you offer to yourself in allowing yourself to be noticing of your behavior in interaction with other individuals, for this allows you the opportunity to be examining and understanding the differences within perceptions.

It also lends to your movement into the expression of acceptance of other individuals AND of yourself, for the key element in all of these experiences is that you are allowing yourself an exploration of yourself and of how you create your reality individually, even in conjunction with other individuals.

This is quite purposeful, for it allows you to be eliminating many different expressions of conflict within your focus, as you allow yourself to become familiar with your preferences but also with your perception, and recognizing that other individuals engage difference in perception, which also creates differences in preferences, recognizing also that none of these perceptions or preferences are right or wrong. They are merely different, and you may be accepting of those differences and also simultaneously continue to hold your individual opinion, which is the reflection of your preferences.

This is the art of acceptance of self and acceptance of other individuals simultaneously.

ANONY: Yes, I guess it does begin with self, and this thing for me, this whole experience, has been the biggest test of acceptance of self Iíve ever faced in my entire life! And itís getting better. I mean, Iím not one hundred percent there, but itís certainly getting better, and like I said, tomorrow I have to go to court, and Iím not looking forward to that again, but....

ELIAS: And you shall be well....

ANONY: I shall be well. I know I shall.

ELIAS: And you are not striving to be better! I shall reiterate this once again. You already are! You are merely creating choices moment by moment, and in this, you are not striving to be better. You are allowing yourself to explore.

ANONY: Yes. It sure is confusing though, because those of us with physical focuses frequently donít have a clue as to why we create what we create! It would be much nicer to be sitting on some cloud somewhere without a physical body, where youíre subjectively aware of whatís going on, because down here ... I think of it as down here. Here, it is very confusing. (Elias chuckles) Itís VERY confusing!

ELIAS: But I shall express to you, the more that you familiarize yourself with your perception and with yourself, the less confusing it shall become.

ANONY: And just when we finally figure the whole thing out, then we donít have to do it anymore, huh! (Laughing)


ANONY: Because there would be no point, would there?

ELIAS: Not necessarily! You may choose to be continuing in your exploration for the experience of the exploration, which in actuality IS what you are creating. But you complicate this exploration in confusing your information input Ė your emotions and your intellect, which offer you information input. But you confuse these through the influence of your beliefs, and therefore you complicate your exploration.

But as you familiarize yourself with yourself and you offer yourself more of an expression of trust and acceptance, you also are influencing of your perception, in turning your perception in the direction of viewing your reality AS an exploration rather than a learning experience.

ANONY: Right, Ďcause if itís a learning experience, that means that thereís something missing, that you havenít got it yet! (Laughing)

ELIAS: This is correct, and as you view your reality through your perception to be a learning experience, you also view other individuals to hold more knowledge, more ability than yourself....

ANONY: Or less! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Or less. You create judgments upon yourself and upon other individuals. You are continuously striving, as you have stated, to become better, to accomplish more, to be expressing in more of an adequate manner. But if you are merely exploring, there is no need to be better in your exploration. You are exploring in adventure!

ANONY: Yes. Iíll try to keep that attitude in mind. It would certainly change your perception, if thatís the way you view it.


ANONY: It would change your perception of your creations if you view it that way, quite a bit!

ELIAS: And this, in actuality, alters the entirety of your reality.

ANONY: Yes. Well, I hope that just because this is my final focus, I donít have to go to jail! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: I mean, is this a requirement? (Laughing) Iíve never done this before!

ELIAS: No, this is not a requirement. This is a choice! Ha ha ha!

ANONY: (Laughing) Well, I think thatís it. Oh, one more question. My ex-husband Jack, who is my very, very good friend, heís so funny because every time I mention you, he gets really upset after a while. He says,ĒWhen you talk about Elias, it just makes me sick.Ē He has a real strong reaction, but yet, a lot of the belief systems, he has. I guess what my question about Jack is ... and I can answer my own question. I want to know if we have other focuses, and yeah, we do.

ELIAS: You are correct! Ha ha ha!

ANONY: So, thatís all of my questions. Is there anything that you would like to say to me that I havenít asked already?

ELIAS: Let me offer to you also, in relation to this individual that you identify as your ex-partner, but your continued friend....

ANONY: Right! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: In this, allow yourself to be noticing your interaction and your behavior in that interaction, and to be noticing your motivation in relation to the information that you offer, for this may be helpful to you in practicing in relation to other individuals also.

As you incorporate an excitement in engaging conversation and interaction with myself, you view this to be quite positive and beneficial, and in that assessment, you incorporate an excitement that you wish to be sharing with other individuals.

Now; be aware, I am not expressing that there is any element of this expression that is wrong. Simultaneously, I offer to you the suggestion that you examine the motivation in the projection of energy in the offering of information to other individuals.

I am not expressing to you that you not be offering information to other individuals. This is defeating of the point. But I AM expressing to you that as individuals present you with energy and expressions that are not necessarily compliant or in agreement with what you are expressing, examine your motivation in your continuing in your pursuit.

ANONY: Yes. Before you said the word continuing, that was the word that just popped into my mind too. (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) If youíve already expressed and they are very definitely not interested, why would you continue to do that?

ELIAS: Let me also express to you that many times you move yourself into narrow pathways, so to speak, of expressions. You continue to be offering expressions in similar directions which may not necessarily be received by another individual willingly.

ANONY: Yes, right!

ELIAS: But you hold the ability to be expressing interaction with other individuals in harmony in many, many, many different manners.

Let me explain to you, you may allow yourself to view that many other individuals are in actuality moving in very similar directions to yourself. They are merely viewing it through their perception Ė which is different from your perception Ė and offer themselves information in different manners.

This is not to say that you may not be interactive with them or communicative with them in sharing your information between you, for you are experiencing and moving very similarly. You are merely interpreting it differently.

ANONY: Right. I see what you mean.

ELIAS: Therefore, conceptually and theoretically, you may be moving in a particular direction, and your friend may be moving in a very similar direction. Your words may be incorporated differently. Your language between you may be offered differently. Your interpretation of your experiences may be offered slightly differently, but underlyingly there is a commonality of movement, and you may find that commonality as you allow yourself to widen your awareness within your perception, recognizing that difference is not necessarily disharmony.

ANONY: Yes. With Jack, basically thereís a lot of commonality. Itís just that sometimes, my particular words set him off, and I donít need to do that. I almost kinda do it on purpose, I think! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: I mean, thatís why heís my ex-husband! We never did agree on anything! (Laughing) Well, we did on many levels, but heís a very opinionated person, and Iím an opinionated person. But he makes a great friend, as long as I donít have to be with him 24 hours a day! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha! But you may also allow yourself to be recognizing the challenge that occurs between the two of you, and this be one of the reasons that you draw to each other.

ANONY: Yes. Oh, I had a dream Ė it was the most interesting thing Ė about him, and in the dream ... it was just a common, everyday dream. It wasnít a big, exciting thing. But in the dream, I was still married to him, and in the dream, part of me woke up and said, aha! This is an alternate self that didnít divorce Jack.

ELIAS: Ah! And I shall be acknowledging of you that this IS what you have allowed yourself to view.

ANONY: It was so interesting because I was asleep, but I was awake. I mean, I was aware, and I said to myself in the dream, aha! Now I understand alternate selves! Itís like, whenever this focus of Anony decides to make an abrupt left, there is an Anony that didnít make an abrupt left.

ELIAS: You are correct.

Now; I shall express to you a clarification. This is in actuality a probable self, which does hold a difference to alternate selves.

ANONY: Okay. I guess Iím confusing probable and alternate. There was just a transcript where you explained it. Iím gonna have to go back and read that transcript.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) But in this viewing, you have allowed yourself the opportunity to recognize the action of probable selves, and the creation, in those turns that you identify or those choices in your direction, in which you also create a type of offspring, which is a probable self within a probable reality.

ANONY: I used to live in Los Angeles, in southern California, and I moved up to northern California about 20 years ago, and I frequently have dreams of me still living in Los Angeles, and I would guess that I have a probable self thatís down in Los Angeles that decided not to move to northern California.

ELIAS: You are correct.

ANONY: There must be hundreds and thousands of each of us!

ELIAS: There are countless!

ANONY: Countless Ė whoa! (Elias chuckles) That makes me feel very powerful!

ELIAS: Very large!

ANONY: Yeah!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: Well, thatís all the questions I have. It was really nice talking to you, and I look forward to talking to you again.

ELIAS: And I also, and I shall offer to you my expression of energy once again, in like manner to our previous encounter.

ANONY: Thank you.

ELIAS: I shall continue to be encouraging of you and I shall continue to offer energy to you, as you continue in your adventure and your exploration! (Laughing)

ANONY: Thank you!

ELIAS: And I may express to you also that you may be choosing to be noticing of this tingling of fingers subsequent to your choice to disengage this action in your creation, for I may be choosing to be interactive with you and offering a physical sensation of this tingling to be reminding you of my presence.

ANONY: Oh, okay. Thatís in case there are no light bulbs around?

ELIAS: HA HA! I may always be incorporating electricity!

ANONY: So, did you cause the recorder to eat the tape, or was it Dorothyís energy, who really didnít want to hear it? (Laughing)

ELIAS: This was not my expression.

ANONY: Okay, I didnít think so.

ELIAS: I may be crediting myself with the affectingness of your electrical light, but not with the destruction of your tape. Ha ha!

I express to you great affection. I anticipate our next meeting. Proceed in playfulness!

To you this day, quite lovingly, au revoir.

ANONY: Thanks. Bye.

Elias departs at 2:29 PM.

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