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Tuesday, May 30, 2000

<  Session 625 (Private/Phone)  >

ďCreating/Altering Past/FutureĒ

ďYou Create Other IndividualsĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anony (Mous).

Elias arrives at 10:36 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

ANONY: Good morning, Elias! (Elias chuckles) Nice to talk to you again!

ELIAS: And you also!

ANONY: Before I get started on my favorite subject Ė me! Ė I have a friend that I met on the Elias email thing. Her name is Sharon, and I think her essence name is Camdon. She asked me if I would ask you for essence name, family, alignment, and orientation for her daughter Ragen and her daughterís boyfriend Alex. (Pause)

ELIAS: Very well. (Pause)

First individual, essence name, Iris. Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Gramada; orientation in this focus, common. Second individual, essence name, Van.

ANONY: Van, V-A-N?

ELIAS: Correct. Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Tumold; orientation, common.

ANONY: Okay. Well, thatís good Ė they have the same orientation! (Elias chuckles) Letís see, where do I want to begin here?

Last time I talked to you, I had just found a place to live, and Iíve been here like two months now, and itís nice. I had to get rid of my dog after Iíd been here about two weeks. Theyíre not really animal people here. My dog barked when people walked in the door, and they didnít like that. So, I really learned a lot about being in the now from that experience, because when they told me I had to find another home for Bear, I of course felt awful, and I noticed the next day I got up and was wanting to feel awful again, and I just stopped myself and said, wait! I havenít gotten rid of her yet. Sheís still here! Why would I want to be feeling awful about something that Iím gonna have to do maybe two weeks down the line, when I can just save it and feel awful in two weeks, and enjoy the two weeks that I still have with her? (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha!

ANONY: That was a real eye-opener for me about staying exactly in the now. I did find a great home for her. She now has two people who spoil her instead of just me, and sheís got people with her 24 hours a day. Sheís living on three acres of land, and sheís living near the ocean. She has created many new experiences for herself! (Elias chuckles) And that makes me feel better about having to get rid of her, knowing that sheís in a good home.

I resigned from the state bar and from being a lawyer. I sent in my resignation on May 1, and that was a big relief! I was amazed at how free I felt after doing that! Once I did that, then I needed to find other work, and Iíve been doing some paralegal work for a couple of different lawyers, which Iím enjoying doing because Iíve been making about $800 a week only working part-time, which I think is very nice!

I want to ask you specifically about one of the guys Iím working for. His name is Rudy, and I knew him before I started doing work for him, but not real well. Iíd had a couple of cases with him, and then Iíve been doing work for him, and itís like Iíve known him forever, and I know that I have other focuses with him. As a matter of fact, about two weeks ago I was in his office doing some work for him, and he was leaving for Hawaii that night, and I said, ďBye. Have a good trip!Ē And as I turned to go, I felt this ... it was an automatic response feeling of wanting to give him a hug.

Now, I did not do it because I realized that it WAS an automatic response, but it was not an automatic response of this focus. It felt like it was a bleed-through from some other relationship I had with him, and I was kind of curious about that.

ELIAS: I am understanding of what you are expressing. Let me say to you that this type of responsiveness in this time period is becoming more and more common with individuals within your physical reality. It IS what you would term to be a bleed-through recognition, in a manner of speaking, in relation to actions occurring within another focus that you participate within together.

As you are moving more into the expression of inserting this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, you are thinning the veils that have been created in separation between yourself as an individual focus of attention and other focuses of your essence, and also other actions that are occurring within consciousness.

In this, you notice your response as an automatic response, without a thought process and recognizing the natural feeling of that response, but you are also allowing yourself to be identifying that this automatic response is not relative to this particular focus.

This is an action which offers you an evidence objectively of your movement in widening your awareness, for it allows you to view objectively that you are in actuality thinning these veils, and you are moving in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, and you are creating your own movement in the action of remembrance, which is the point within this shift.

As to this individual, you do share more than one focus of essence with this individual. You participate in several focuses with this individual. Now; I shall once again be challenging you (grinning) to be investigating of these focuses, IF you are so choosing and IF this is holding your interest, so to speak!

ANONY: Okay. I havenít actually been that interested in viewing other focuses, in that this one that Iím in right now seems to be pretty challenging! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha! There is quite enough to hold your attention, is there not? (Grinning)

ANONY: Oh yes, there definitely is! (Cracking up)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: My situation with the court system is ... you know, itís like sometimes I cannot actually believe that Iíve created this! I mean, I know I have, but I canít understand why. Itís like Iíve gotten on this train, and I keep thinking that itís gonna stop at a station and Iím gonna hop off, but I donít seem to be hopping off, and the train seems to be proceeding forward in the manner that things do when you get involved with the court system.

About a month and a half ago, I had to go to court ... incidentally, the times that Iíve actually gone to court, itís like Iím watching a movie. Iím not feeling upset or that much discomfort, really. Itís like Iím there, but itís almost like Iím watching the whole thing instead of really participating in it emotionally; not that I donít participate in the emotions at a later time, when Iím alone perhaps, but at least I get through the court thing!

But about a month and a half ago, when I went to court, the local newspaper showed up, WITH a photographer, and it was ... I canít say anything else but that it was extremely painful and very humiliating. There was some humor to it, actually. I got up the next morning and grabbed the newspaper Ďcause I KNEW there would be an article in it, and it was even the damn headline! I grabbed the local news out of the newspaper because the guy that Iím living with, who Iím sharing the house with, works for the damn newspaper as a sports editor, and I really didnít want him to read about this! (Laughing)

I didnít want him to read this article, so I took that part of the newspaper away, thinking he wouldnít even notice it was gone, except they had mentioned it in the headline. So later in the day, he said, ďHey, do you have the local news, because I want to read about this lawyer.Ē And I just looked at him and I said, ďItís me!Ē (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) Then I gave him the newspaper, and he read it. Since Iím living in his house, I felt I really needed to discuss it with him, except I didnít want him to see it in the newspaper first. So we sat down and chatted, and he seemed very accepting of it.

It was sort of comical the way it came about, though, with me just looking at him and saying, ďItís me!Ē (Elias chuckles) But he knows about it, so thatís okay. I didnít like having it in the newspaper. I felt really humiliated. I donít know how to get past that one.

ELIAS: This directly is associated with your beliefs and how your beliefs influence your perception Ė concerning yourself and how you perceive other individuals, how you perceive that other individuals MIGHT perceive you or DO perceive you, and your assessment of the value of these perceptions.

In this, the aspect of beliefs concerning how other individuals view you is very strong, for this particular aspect of beliefs is very influencing of how you view yourself.

ANONY: It sure is, and we talked about that, I think, the very first time I talked to you, and itís still Ė STILL Ė a big thing with me; maybe not quite as much, because itís that particular shrine thatís been shot at a whole bunch! But I really donít know anyone on this earth ... well, no. I was going to say, I donít think anybody could stand being in the newspaper like that and not have some feeling of humiliation, but....

ELIAS: Let me express to you, first of all, it matters not other individualsí responses to the same or a similar situation, but this once again is an automatic response. This is an automatic direction of thought process which many, many, many individuals, and yourself also, engage, is to be creating a comparison.

Comparisons are engaged within your realities as a means of validation at times, as a means for justification, and as a fueling, so to speak, in some situations, in regard to motivations.

But comparisons are in actuality very strong expressions of reinforcements of belief systems that you hold, and they reinforce a lack of acceptance within self and many times as projected to other individuals, or even within situations concerning things, so to speak, within your reality, things that are objects and not individuals.

You incorporate comparisons quite frequently, but these comparisons may be quite hindering to your movement into acceptance, and for the most part, a hindrance in the expression of acceptance of self.

ANONY: Iím really working on acceptance of self, believe me!

ELIAS: I am aware, and this be the reason that we are discussing this now, for this is an automatic response.

ANONY: Yes, it is.

ELIAS: And in this, as we continue to be discussing focusing your attention upon self and noticing all of the different types of automatic responses that divert your attention and offer you reinforcements of justifications to be not accepting of self or not trusting of self, it offers you the opportunity to be objectively aware and allows you more choices.

Let me express to you, individuals place themselves in the role of victim in situations that they view they hold no choices, or they view that their choices are extremely limited. Offering yourself the opportunity to view more of your choices offers you the opportunity to move outside of the expression of victim.

Now; in the expression of humiliation, you are creating the expression of victim.

ANONY: I didnít see that. Yeah, I am!

ELIAS: For you are expressing that another individual has created an action against you.

ANONY: Right Ė youíre right! I never thought of that.

ELIAS: And in that, you limit your choices, and you box yourself into an expression of viewing yourself as powerless and helpless.


ELIAS: These are what you may term to be very beneficial examples that you are offering to yourself.

Now; I have been expressing for much time framework....

ANONY: Excuse me. (Pause, with background noise) Sorry. Hello?

ELIAS: You need not be apologizing!

ANONY: Okay.

ELIAS: I have been expressing for much time framework to many individuals concerning how you are responsive to yourselves and how you are creating your reality, and that you may be creating many situations within your focus that appear to you to be uncomfortable or that you may even label in a negative sense, so to speak, but I have expressed that regardless of your association with negative or positive, all that you create within your reality IS beneficial.

Now; in this, you, in actuality, do not create events or actions within your focus that are not beneficial to you. Even within the situations in which individuals create the incorporation of the energy of worry or guilt, which I have expressed many times are ALMOST a waste of energy, even those expressions may be beneficial, although these two expressions, I continue to offer to all of you, border upon an expression of wasting energy, for they are serving no purpose but to be reinforcing your lack of acceptance of self.

But regardless, you have created many situations and many scenarios within your focus to be offering you opportunities to stop and to view your behaviors, your creations, your automatic responses, and these are in actuality quite beneficial to you.

For in offering yourself these scenarios and these responses and paying attention to the responses that you are engaging, you allow yourself to view what is influencing those responses Ė the beliefs that are influencing your perception Ė and as you allow yourself to view and recognize what you are creating and what is motivating your creations, you offer yourself more freedom.

ANONY: Okay.

ELIAS: As I have expressed, victims are victims for they view that they hold no choices, or very few choices.

ANONY: Gee, at this point in the criminal justice process, I almost ... I mean, I DO feel like I hold very few choices. I didnít think I was thinking of myself as a victim, other than perhaps as a victim of myself! (Laughing) If that makes any sense.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANONY: Itís like they are doing this to me, and I think ... there goes my belief systems again! It seems like or I feel like Iíve created a line of probabilities here, and I donít know how to make them shift, and I guess if this is true, that for some reason I have created ... well, youíve told me I created this for my noticing.

I mean, I could actually end up having to spend some time in jail, and I know that would matter not too ... to essence! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ah, but you view that it matters to YOU, and you ARE essence.

ANONY: Yes I am Ė I know! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Now; you have offered a statement that you view that you are creating these actions within your reality for your noticing and that you are allowing yourself to view, but you are not understanding or viewing how you may be altering of this scenario and your movement.

Let us address to this, for this is a very common viewpoint, so to speak, of individuals.

They may allow themselves, as you are, to view certain elements of their reality that they have created. They may also allow themselves to view, as you are now, that they are being responsive to their beliefs in some areas, creating an assessment within themselves or placing themselves within the role of a victim, and they may offer information to themselves, as you are, concerning all that they, or you, are creating.

And in that, you also create another automatic thought process, in evaluation of what you are creating and what you have created thus far; stopping momentarily in the now, and turning your attention from the anticipation of the future into the reflection of the past; attempting to be holding your attention within the now, but in actuality, continuing to project yourself into the anticipation of the future by creating a thought process and statement of how you may be addressing to the situation to alter the future probabilities.

Therefore, you are continuing to concern yourself with the future activities, and what may or may not occur in what you perceive to be the future.

Now; you also incorporate in this thought process an idea of acquiring some ďmethodĒ that you ďmay beĒ futurely engaging that ďshall beĒ altering of these probabilities. This is the key.

You have opened our discussion this day in an expression of offering to me an example of a scenario in which you allowed yourself to notice and to hold your attention within the now.

ANONY: Right! (Laughing)

ELIAS: And in that creation, you altered your reality. You altered your perception, which altered your reality, and in that, you did not merely alter your reality within the now, but you altered the reality of the future, which is now the now!

ANONY: Right! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Therefore, you have altered the reality of the now. You have also altered the reality of the future in the now, and an element of that reality is also now past, which is also altered.

Therefore, in a manner of speaking, within the moment of holding your attention within the now, you altered the present present, the future future, the future present, the past present, the past past. Ha ha ha! You have altered MANY situations, many time frameworks, and many associations!

In this, what I am expressing to you is, the value and importance of holding your attention within the now is not merely to be lessening or eliminating your conflict within the moment, but allowing yourself the recognition that you are in actuality creating your reality, and you create your reality in the now. You do not create your reality in the past or in the future. You create it now, and that creates the reality of the past and the future. Therefore, the importance is held in what you are creating now.

Your idea moves in the direction of what you ďshall beĒ creating in the future, and therefore, you are projecting your attention into what you perceive to be the future, and you are not paying attention objectively to what you are actually creating now, and what you are creating now has already created the future. Are you understanding thus far?

ANONY: Um-hmm.

ELIAS: Therefore, by seeking the acquisition of a method of how you may be altering the probabilities or the scenarios of situations that may be occurring within the future and continuing to project your attention to the future, you neglect paying attention to what you are creating now, and therefore, you are already creating what shall be occurring in the future, but you are not viewing that, for you are viewing some elusive illusion.

Your attention is moving in the direction of, ďWhat method may I incorporate, from this moment now until the moment of my return to my participation within the court system, that shall alter the moment futurely in which I am standing before the judge, and I may be creating of a different reality than the reality that I hold fear of?Ē

Now; in focusing your attention in that manner, projecting your attention to the illusion of the future, you are not paying attention to what you are creating now, and what you are creating now is an expression of fear Ė which becomes a reality Ė of the interaction that may occur futurely, and that you ďshall beĒ engaging the probability of incarceration.

This is what you are concentrating upon within the now. Therefore, this is what you are creating, and as the future approaches and becomes what you view to be the present, that has already been created in the past.

ANONY: So, I should be concentrating now instead of then.

ELIAS: Correct.

You view within your reality a confusion as to why certain actions are created within the now, as you think to yourself contrarily that you have been concentrating objectively to be creating a different outcome. But I express to you, in each moment of the now, you ARE creating outcomes. It is not a question of a future outcome. It is a question of ONLY the outcome which is created in the now.

Now; let me also express to you, this is a WONDROUS creation within your objective physical reality, for this also offers you the opportunity, in each moment of your linear time framework, to change an outcome. It offers you the freedom of choice, that you may choose a different outcome from one moment to the next.

ANONY: Well, I did it with my dog, didnít I!


ANONY: (Laughing) It was good practice!

ELIAS: And this is the point, for it IS practice. It is an opportunity for you to view, within your reality realistically, how you perceive, how you are affecting your perception, and how you actually create a reality within the now which IS affecting of and creating of the past and the future simultaneously, and that you IN REALITY hold this ability, DO manipulate energy, that energy IS real Ė your perception IS real, regardless that you may hold it or touch it physically Ė and that YOU DO CREATE YOUR REALITY in each moment.

You are also responsive to all that you create in each moment as influenced by your beliefs, but if you are holding your attention within self and you are continuing to be noticing of your perception, this offers you a tremendous freedom, for it offers you the objective recognition of what and how you are creating within your reality.

It also offers you the opportunity to view those areas of your reality that you continue to be influenced within the belief that you are NOT creating some elements of your reality.

Let me express to you, YOU create the action and the scenario of the placement of the article within your newspaper.

ANONY: Iíve never thought of that, but yeah.

ELIAS: Without your movement in energy and without your creation of it, no other individual may be creating that action for you or with respect to you.

ANONY: Yes. Huh! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Now, view the opportunity that you offer to yourself in all of these creations Ė the opportunity to recognize realistically how you create your reality, and that you ARE creating your reality, and why.

ANONY: Okay. I can view how I create. Iím just still not ... well, I guess the why of this particular scenario is for my noticing.

ELIAS: The why is that you shall create an automatic response, and the why is that you shall pay attention to and notice and direct your attention to experience much more realistically than you shall merely to concept. You may be reading discussions within our transcribing continuously, but without your own actual experience within your reality, you shall not pay as close of attention.

ANONY: Thatís true! (Laughing) Itís one thing to read what somebody else is doing and understand it intellectually, but when youíre right in it yourself, itís a totally different experience.

ELIAS: Quite, and in this, as you offer to yourself your own experiences, you shall also offer to yourself information concerning those experiences. You shall not merely pay attention blindly or notice with no other action, but you shall allow yourself Ė in that paying attention, in that experience, in that noticing Ė to be exploring.

ANONY: Nothing like hands-on experience! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Quite! This is the design of your reality! Therefore, you offer to yourself these types of experiences and you create these types of experiences KNOWING that you shall be also creating automatic responses to the creations that you have engaged.

ANONY: Which then allows me to notice those automatic responses, and the belief systems.

ELIAS: Yes, and in the noticing and paying attention, it offers you the opportunity to recognize the influence, to be aware objectively of what you are creating through your perception. It offers you the opportunity to view your perception itself! And in this, you open the door to choice, and this is the expression of freedom.

ANONY: Okay. I had a really interesting dream last night. I dreamt that I was in a room by myself indoors and that it was extremely easy for me to fly. I mean, I could just go up to the ceiling Ė boom! It was just so easy! Other people came into the room, and I kept trying to explain to them how easy it was to do that, and none of them would believe me. While they were in the room, I could not do it. So when they left the room, I flew up to the ceiling and I wrote a message on the ceiling. Then I came back down, and then they came back into the room, and I said, ďSee, I wrote this message! See, I can fly!Ē None of them would believe me, and I couldnít do it in the room with other people that didnít believe me.

ELIAS: And this moves very much in relation to what you are objectively creating presently, and how you view yourself, and the tremendous influence that you allow within your perception of how other individuals view you.

Now: in doubting your own abilities, you automatically project outwardly a skepticism and a doubt of other individuals and how they view you, for you shall draw to yourself like expressions. You shall create them!

This moves very much in conjunction with what we have been discussing this day, for as I express to you that you create all of your reality through your perception, I am expressing this to you quite literally. EVERY element within your reality you create, other individuals also.

ANONY: Right. So in the dream, I knew I could fly, but when other people came into the room and said, ďNo, you canít,Ē then I lost my faith in my ability to do it. (Pause) And then couldnít, based upon their belief systems, which I accepted.


Now; let us stop momentarily, and let us address to your response to myself in the information I have just offered to you. Your response is, ďRight; you understand.Ē And I am expressing to you within this now, no, you do not understand, for you did not hear me.

ANONY: Okay.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! (Anony cracks up)

I have expressed to you that the reason that you draw to yourself these types of experiences is that YOU believe this Ė not that you are accepting the beliefs of other individuals, but that underlyingly YOU believe this Ė and thusly, through your perception, you create other individuals, which you also create the responses of those other individuals to be reinforcing of what you believe.

ANONY: Okay, I think I understand it now. If I attract people into my life or draw people into my life who are judgmental of me or who are discounting of me, thatís merely an outward projection of my own inward feelings and beliefs.

ELIAS: Yes. Now; the perception is the tool of your reality.

Therefore, what I am expressing to you also is that you may be drawing other individuals into your reality, and you create an actual physical projection of another individual modeled from the blueprint of their own projection physically of themselves, but the projection that you create of that individual is your creation of them, and it shall respond to you in the manner that you expect.

ANONY: Right, okay. Well then, gee, everything around us is a really good ... I mean, itís just this big mirror! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Yes, in a manner of speaking. It is a creation of your perception, and it is a creation which Ė for the most part Ė is expressed in relation to your expectations. This is dependent upon the strength of the influence of your beliefs.

ANONY: Well, I must have had really big expectations to get into the headlines! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

ANONY: That took a lot of energy! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ah! I shall express to you that you have accomplished this quite effortlessly! (Chuckling, and Anony cracks up) No thought process, no physical action. You have merely created a flow of energy which has effortlessly created that action.

ANONY: (Laughing) Well, it certainly did give me a different way to view things. (Elias chuckles) I donít have to be back to court until September the 6th, so thatís kind of nice. I feel like Iíve got ... you know, I can just relax and be in the now.

ELIAS: Quite! Yes! And be reminding yourself that you are creating September the 6th NOW.

ANONY: Yes I am, arenít I! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) I notice Iíve got to avoid discussions with other people. I mean, people that really like me, theyíre still in my life, and they want to get into, ďWhat do you think is gonna happen?Ē And I say, ďYou know what? I donít want to spend a lot of time and energy concentrating on whatís gonna happen, because number one, it makes me feel bad now, and right now, itís not happening.Ē Iíve got to cut people off sometimes.

ELIAS: I express encouragement to you in this action temporarily, for within this now, it is quite beneficial to you to not be engaging these types of interactions, which are automatically reinforcing your expressions of fear and discounting yourself. Allow yourself to be concentrating your attention upon the now and recognizing that these anticipated actions are not occurring within this now, and as you do not lend energy to those types of expressions of fear and anxiety and doubt, you also offer energy NOW to creating different expressions of probabilities futurely.

ANONY: Right. Yeah, and whatever, it really does matter not. (Elias chuckles) I know that intellectually, and in my life in the last six months, Iíve actually known that on a deeper level than intellectual, in regard to certain things in my life that I thought held a great deal of importance, and then they were no longer in my life, and I realized that it didnít matter anyway! (Laughing)

ELIAS: (Chuckling) What you are creating, Mous, is an objective recognition and realization of freedom, and at times within your reality, the mergence into this freedom may seem to be expressed in uncomfortableness, in similar manner to physical birth....

ANONY: I was just thinking the same thing!

ELIAS: But....

ANONY: But when you come out the other side, then itís an entirely different feeling.

ELIAS: Yes, and the experience of what you identify as the painfulness not merely dissipates, but disappears.

ANONY: Yes. A lot of things that I used to have that I donít have now are not painful at all, and as a matter of fact, itís a lighter feeling.

ELIAS: Quite! This is your offering of freedom, and you may express to yourself that as you continue, you move more and more into an expansive expression of freedom, and ultimately into endless choices, that you may be creating in whichever manner you are desirous of.

ANONY: That sounds wonderful!

ELIAS: It IS wonderful! (Chuckling) And this is the point!

ANONY: Have you and I ever shared any physical focuses? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes. You have participated in four physical focuses that I have also participated within.

ANONY: There was an English poet, and I canít remember when he ... his name was Ernest Dowson. I think he may have been around about the same time frame, or close to, as Oscar Wilde; Iím not sure. Is that someone that you were familiar with? (Pause)

ELIAS: Not in intimacy, but yes, within casual experience.

ANONY: Because Iíve really been attracted to his poetry. He wasnít that famous. I think he had one poem called Cynara that pops up in different books, but Iíve always been very attracted to his poetry.

ELIAS: You participate within that focus as creating a relationship of friendship with that individual, and this be the reason that you experience this draw.

ANONY: Huh! Makes sense. (Elias chuckles) Itís like everybody we meet is an old friend!

ELIAS: Quite! Ha ha ha!

ANONY: Or an old enemy! (Laughing)

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking! Ha ha ha!

ANONY: Well, I guess thatís all the questions I have for today.

ELIAS: Very well. I continue to be greatly encouraging of you. I am acknowledging of what you are accomplishing and what you are offering to yourself in your new expressions of freedom. I shall also continue to offer energy to you in reinforcement of your holding your attention within the now. Therefore, know that you are not alone, so to speak!

ANONY: Thank you.

ELIAS: And we shall continue playfully Ė not in anxiety Ė together!

ANONY: Okay!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) In great affection with you this day, Mous, and in anticipation of our continued interaction, I express to you a loving au revoir.


Elias departs at 11:39 AM.

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