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Sunday, June 18, 2000

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“Disassociating From Reality”

“Exploring Sexual Pleasure”

“Excess is Not Good!”

Participants: Mary (Michael), Elisabeth (Sebastia), and Gerhard (Doro).

Elias arrives at 12:58 PM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon! (Smiling)

ELISABETH: Hello, Elias!

ELIAS: We meet again!

ELISABETH: Yes! (Elias chuckles) I want to ask you a question about my son again.

ELIAS: Very well.

ELISABETH: I want to know what he is experiencing when he is not in this normal reality. Is it like a bleed-through of other focuses of himself, or is it something else? I want to understand because....

ELIAS: I am understanding. (Pause)

Let me explain that within these types of manifestations in this dimension, the individual has chosen to be experiencing their reality, in part, in association with the official reality that you participate within, but in part, they are disassociating themselves from this particular reality.

Now; understand, I have expressed previously, within this physical dimension, there are many other expressions of consciousness which occupy this physical space arrangement. You, within your perception and your recognition of reality, create a veil between yourselves and these other expressions of consciousness.

This is not to say that they are not very real and that they do not exist, for they do. You merely do not participate with them objectively, for you create a design of your reality in one direction and they create a design of their reality in another direction.

Your son, in like manner to other individuals, does not create the veil in the same manner as do you. Therefore, the awareness is held in a manner in which he allows himself to perceive other expressions of consciousness within this physical space arrangement that you do not physically see or hear or engage with any of your outer senses.

This be the reason that for centuries throughout your history, the officially accepted reality and the individuals that participate in that deem these individuals to be delusional or engaging imagination continuously, for there is a recognition that they are playing a different game.

You engage one game in this reality. They are physically manifest in this reality, and at times, they are quite lucidly focused in this reality, participating with you. But at times, they are not.

At times, he is allowing himself to be interactive with other focuses. At other times, he is allowing himself to be viewing, watching, and even participating with other expressions of consciousness that occupy this space arrangement that you would view to be quite foreign from your norm, so to speak. Even the forms are not identifiable to you.

Individuals such as your son have chosen to be manifesting in a particular focus – not all focuses, but in a particular focus – allowing themselves to experience different aspects and avenues of this physical reality. In actuality, for the most part, most essences explore one or more focuses manifest in this manner to be allowing themselves the experience of interaction within a physical dimension, viewing much more of their physical environment than you allow yourselves within your officially accepted reality.

Let me also express to you, you move in a particular direction and steer yourselves, so to speak, within a certain course presently. Your quest is to be offering yourselves information – correct? – to be objectively gaining information and assimilating this information in relation to your participation within this shift. I have expressed many different aspects of the movement of this shift, and what you may recognize in your movement within this shift.

Now; each of you that participate in your officially accepted reality strive to be widening your awareness, engaging your periphery, and allowing yourselves to view and participate with and explore more of your physical reality, correct? Correct. In this action, you are striving to be creating what your son already engages, for he does not hold the veil that you hold.

Now; I have also expressed that in the action of this shift, you are indeed, in actuality, altering all of your reality. You are moving into a very unfamiliar expression. The design of your reality presently is changing, and in this alteration, as you begin movement into the acceptance of your beliefs, you begin the recognition that the identification of what is exhibited by your son is NOT lunacy. This individual is not what you term to be (pause) “un-normal” or malfunctioning....

ELISABETH: But this is not my problem with him. My problem is that I can see that he is not happy with this, and that he is not able to manage with this....

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ELISABETH: I care what happens to him. If only I could see that he is not in this reality, and I could have the feeling that he feels good with it, it would be good for me, and I could let him be there, even if it’s not normal. But I see that he does not feel good with it, that he is full of fears, and this is my problem.

ELIAS: Quite, and I am quite understanding of your concern. I have offered this information, in a manner of speaking, as a background information, that you may understand why I express to you the importance of your acceptance, for what occurs with your son and with many other individuals is that they view their choice to be different.

They recognize – HE recognizes objectively that his reality is viewed differently. He is quite objectively aware that what he views within his reality is different from what you view within your reality, or what MANY people view within their reality. This creates a conflict, for the mass belief systems – which you ALL participate within – are very strong.

Let me express to you, merely that these individuals – and your son also – allow themselves to not be creating these veils does not create an exemption from beliefs. They participate in your belief systems to the same measure that you participate.

Therefore, as you or the masses are not accepting of what they are creating, they also are not accepting of what they are creating, for they are assuming the beliefs, in alignment with those beliefs, and are discounting of themselves, expressing that there is some element wrong with their creation and their interaction in reality.

I have expressed recently in this forum with individuals, although you create a thought process that you express that you are appreciative of differences – within behaviors, within exhibitions, within energy, within ANY expression – for this offers you variety and diversity, in actuality, you accept difference in very minute expressions. In actuality, you genuinely wish for sameness.

Now; yestereve, I offered information within a group of individuals which I shall offer to you also, that you may allow yourself an understanding of why this individual experiences difficulty and distress with what he is creating. This is directly related to the subject of difference, and how you are not accepting of difference.

As you each create expressions and behaviors within your reality that appear in sameness, you create an automatic action continuously, throughout your focus, of comparison. This is the action of how you objectively measure your worth and your acceptability.

As you create comparisons of yourself to other individuals outside of yourself, and you view similarities and sameness, you allow yourself to validate yourselves that you are the same. Therefore, you are acceptable, and you create a rise in the measure of your worth.

As you view any expressions of difference, you become suspect, and you express a question within yourself: “Why are you exhibiting behaviors and expressions of your reality that is different?”

And you search for the expression of sameness outside of yourself to validate, for this is your process, and as you find no validation, you assess that your behavior and your creation of your reality is wrong. It does not fit in alignment – in comparison – with other individuals and how they create their reality.

And this wrongness is reinforced, for the masses also view the one that expresses differently and they also assess, “Difference is not acceptable. You must be creating the same to be validating.”

What he is creating, as I have stated to you, is not wrong, and if you are allowing yourselves to recognize the movement that you are engaging in relation to this shift in consciousness, you all are moving into the very type of expression that he is already creating, and the difference in that action is that as you, en masse, more and more create these types of expressions, you begin to deem them as acceptable, but those who are already experiencing the fullness of these experiences are deemed unacceptable.

It is confusing to him and conflicting to him, for he continuously is attempting and wishing to be fitting himself into the expression that he views as the norm, judging himself that his choice is wrong. This be the reason that I express to you, I understand your expression of wishing to be helpful, your want to understand, your want to be helpful.

What I am expressing to you is that in genuineness, your greatest expression of helpfulness is to be accepting, for in allowing yourself to be accepting, you provide the expression of validation that this individual is not wrong and that he so desperately seeks, for without the outside validation – which you ALL participate within and you ALL seek – he continues to attempt to fit himself into expressions that are foreign to him and that he does not fit within, and this creates a frustration, and the frustration creates a lack of motivation, and therefore, he does not attempt any longer.

He expresses, “Why shall I attempt? I may not succeed. Therefore, I shall not motivate myself to be moving in any direction. I hold no control over my reality. I am doomed to the victimization of this reality that I have created and I am a prisoner within it, seeking to be validated and not acquiring that validation, and it is impossible for my movement into the stream of the norm. Therefore, I shall give up.”

And he has created this action many times previously, in frustration. But what a wondrous expression you may offer through your acceptance, in the validation!

I am not expressing to you that if you are engaging this acceptance, that he shall immediately recognize this objectively, and spring to his feet and be joyful! (Grinning, and Elisabeth laughs) For he is quite accustomed to creating his box, and he is quite accustomed to discounting of himself and not accepting of outside validation. He is not trusting of that outside validation any longer.

But as you continue to be validating through your acceptance and not creating judgments, he shall move in increments, in the allowance of himself to become more accepting of himself.

ELISABETH: And you think there is a probability that he is able to accept himself?


ELISABETH: Sounds good! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Within a time framework and with the interaction that you offer in helpfulness, yes; in quite like manner, Sebastia, to myself.

Individuals approach myself in great fear and tremendous expressions of a lack of acceptance of self, and as I offer an expression of acceptance to them in time frameworks in which they are not allowing themselves to express this to themselves, they do allow the expression from myself temporarily, and they are accepting of that temporarily, to the point that they begin to feel their own power of their own expression, and in increments, they begin their own trust and their own acceptance of self.

You are no different. You hold this same expression. You may be offering this same offering to your son, and it shall be equally as powerful. (Smiling affectionately)

ELISABETH: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

GERHARD: I see that my impressions and connecting with focuses are blocked by my impatient expectations, and that relaxing and opening to more of the information that is available now will change this, as well as the fact that I begin to let go of my wish to change it at all, and just let it change by itself. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes. As you are not striving to be attaining, you shall open to your periphery.

It is not a brass ring to be grasped! (Grinning) It is already an element of you. Therefore, it is not a thing to strive for, but merely an action that you may be engaging, as you allow yourself to relax and be accepting of the position that you exhibit now.

As you continue to judge the expression that you create in the now, and express to yourself that you are not accomplishing, that you are not expressing well enough, that you need be better, you are creating this hold upon your energy. “I am not good enough yet; I must strive to be better, and accomplish.”

But as you allow yourself to be relaxing and accepting the expression that you are creating now, knowing that what you are creating now is already the best, you loosen your hold upon your energy and you surprise yourself, for you allow yourself to open to your periphery, and you allow yourself to be experiencing.

As you hold tightly to your energy, also you discount the information that you allow to be objectively recognized through your impressions, for you automatically discount your impressions.

“Ah, this is imagination. Ah, I am delusional. I thought I may have experienced a moment, but no.” But yes! (Chuckling, and Gerhard and Elisabeth laugh) Be playful! (Chuckling)

GERHARD: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

GERHARD: Now could you tell me essence names, family, alignment, and orientation of some of the participants of the German mailing list?

ELIAS: Very well.

GERHARD: First, Brigitte. (Pause)

ELIAS: Demre; D-E-M-R-E. (dem’ree) Essence family, Sumari; alignment in this focus, Vold; orientation, common.

GERHARD: Okay. Christine? (Pause)

ELIAS: Ben-ami; B-E-N-hyphen-A-M-I. (ben-ah-me’) Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Gramada; orientation, common.

GERHARD: Thank you. Conny? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Oleg; O-L-E-G. (o’leg) Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.

GERHARD: Marlies? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Mallory; M-A-L-L-O-R-Y. (mal’ah-ree) Essence family, Milumet; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.

GERHARD: And Jens? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Ranatad; R-A-N-A-T-A-D. (ran’ah-tod) Essence family, Borledim; alignment, Zuli; orientation, soft.

GERHARD: A question: Why is it that women quite often do not want to have sex with their partners, even if they love them and would like to have sex? Is there a mass belief involved? And Marlies asks you to help her to understand this problem also.

ELIAS: I express to you, there is a strength within an expression of mass beliefs – an aspect of the belief system of sexuality – which has been expressed throughout very many of your cultures within your world and for many, many, many centuries.

In this, the female gender is influenced by the belief that the interaction of sexual actions – or intercourse sexually – is to be engaged for the purpose of procreation, and not for the purpose of pleasure. This belief has been reinforced tremendously through much of your history and most of your cultures.

Now; I am understanding that within your previous century and this new century, you are allowing yourselves more of an expression of openness and discovery of pleasure in relation to this physical action, but even within the cultures that are moving more in these types of expressions, there continues to be a tremendous influence of mass belief systems, for there continues to be many cultures throughout your globe that hold very strongly in reinforcement of this belief.

Within this time framework, you are – as I have stated previously in relation to this shift in consciousness – turning your attention to self, allowing yourself to become more aware of your beliefs and their influence upon your perception.

Be remembering, your perception creates ALL of your reality.

Therefore, if you are allowing an influence of beliefs to dictate to your perception that sexual interaction, in physical action, is unacceptable, or that it is not pleasurable, or that it is not “supposed” to be pleasurable, or that it is a function designed for one purpose, you shall create a perception which physically creates your reality, and may be even physically affecting of the functioning of your actual body. Some individuals hold an underlying alignment with these beliefs so strongly that they create an expression of energy which is affecting of their physical body responses, and do not experience pleasure in this action, and may even experience discomfort.

I may express to you also that within the cultures that are beginning to be allowing themselves, in the expressions of individuals, to be exploring and recognizing your own designs of choices and your own seeking of pleasure, there are many aspects of this belief system that are associated – or that YOU associate – with the physical actions of sexual interaction.

Women, female individuals, express that they are more expressive of emotional qualities; that they are not merely functioning in physical capacity, but are needing of intimacy in expression of emotional qualities in conjunction with the physical actions. This creates another aspect of the beliefs.

I shall express to you genuinely, the action of physical, sexual intercourse is a physical action which creates, if you are allowing, in its natural flow of energy, a physical expression of pleasure.

This is a very PHYSICAL action. You couple it with many other types of expressions, for you associate it with intimacy. It is physically the closest interaction that you may engage – within your perceptions – to one another, for you have not allowed yourselves to be engaging other expressions of intimacy that may create your identification of an even closer interaction. You may be physically merging with another individual, and create an even closer interaction than this action of sexual intercourse.

But within your perceptions and aligning with your beliefs, this is your identification of your closest, most intimate expression physically, as you occupy separate physical bodies, and in this, you associate that closeness, that intimacy, with certain definitions of roles, of bonds, of relationships.

You also associate very intimately with yourselves in this action. As you associate that this is the closest, most intimate action that you may be engaging with another individual, you underlyingly also associate that in this action, you are opening yourselves, in your energy, to another individual.

You are allowing a penetration of your energy field. You are creating a vulnerability, an openness to another individual, and this creates an element of reserve and suspicion, for you associate that as you become vulnerable and open in relation to another individual, that you are opening to hurtfulness. You automatically assume hurtfulness, or the potential for hurtfulness, in relation to other individuals.

There are many, many, many aspects of beliefs that are associated with this action, and you may express to yourselves that you have liberated yourselves so very much sexually, and I may express to you that you do NOT offer yourselves the expression of much freedom yet, en masse, in this area! (Grinning) You continue to be creating your castle walls (chuckling) and your fortresses about you, expressing caution and suspicion in this action.

Let me also express to you, the mere action of pleasure within your physical dimension is suspect! You view yourselves to be so very liberated within your expressions and your beliefs, and experiencing such freedom! (Chuckling)

I express to you, you limit yourselves tremendously, for you view many aspects of your reality that are the presentment of pleasure ... ah, but pleasure is not good! And especially the excess of pleasure, for excess of ANY expression is not good! Pleasure may be associated with vices, and these are quite not good! Ha ha ha ha! (Gerhard and Elisabeth laugh) Playfulness and fun is irresponsible, and pleasure is self-indulgent! Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk! (Chuckling)

These belief systems are difficult to be neutralizing. They are difficult to be moving into acceptance of, for they are very strong, and you automatically are reinforcing of them.

Even in your openness, you may look to some expressions and say to yourselves and to each other, “Ah, sexual activity and intercourse is acceptable and pleasure is acceptable in certain measure, in certain expressions, not in other expressions.” I shall offer to you, your identification of pornography is not quite acceptable, although it is an expression of pleasure with many individuals. But this is excessive, and excess is not good! (Chuckling)

But you create excess as you stifle yourselves, for the motivation to be exploring in excess or extreme becomes greater if you are denying yourselves. In the denial of self, you create either a tremendous lack of motivation – as your son – or you create an extreme of motivation, which creates fanaticism. (Chuckling)

GERHARD: Thank you. The time has just come to an end now, so thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome! I express great affection to you both, and much encouragement.

Acknowledge yourself, Sebastia. You hold the ability to be accomplishing, and you shall move, and your son shall also.

ELISABETH: Thank you.

ELIAS: You shall both be helpful in this situation, and do not discount yourself that the world does not follow. It matters not! (Chuckling)

I express to you each, in great lovingness, an anticipation of our next meeting.

ELISABETH: And we arrange it all the time! (Laughing)

ELIAS: And I shall be checking on your progress, so to speak! Ha ha ha ha! And as we travel, we shall travel together, shall we not?

BOTH: Yes!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I shall be anticipating of our next traveling!

To you, my friends, this day, au revoir.

ELISABETH: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:55 PM.

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