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Sunday, July 16, 2000

<  Session 662 (Private/Phone)  >

ďExploring DisengagementĒ

ďMoving into EssenceĒ

ďDefining KindnessĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Rodney (Zacharie).

Elias arrives at 9:42 AM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

RODNEY: Good morning, Elias! Good to hear your voice!

ELIAS: And how goes your adventure, my friend?

RODNEY: (Laughing) Enjoyably!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Very well!

RODNEY: (Laughing) Iím loving it!

My first question to you is, I was going to ask you about an event that happened to me last weekend, a gust of wind, and I understand that there was a gust of wind associated with your entrance into a session in England, and I wondered, did you slam the windows?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) I may express clarification to you that I incorporated no wind in this action.

RODNEY: You did not?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Merely a closing of the windows!

RODNEY: (Laughing) Oh, alright! (Elias chuckles) I laughed when I heard that!

I had an event occur to me last weekend. It was in the evening, and I was relaxing before going to bed, and I was out having a glass of wine and smoking a cigar, and it was very, very quiet outside. It was a very still summer night, and a feeling came up for me Ė not a thought as much as a feeling Ė as to, I wonder if there really is the consciousness or the awareness of my deceased parents and family around me as there seems to be around other people, because Iím still not in the mode of seeing reality as an unconnected ... I shouldnít say unconnected. Iím not used to seeing it as a connected continuum of consciousness, so to speak. And this feeling came up within me, and no sooner had that question expressed itself when a gust of wind came up the street and shook every tree from top to bottom.

I couldnít help but wonder if my question wasnít being answered by a rather dramatic show of energy. Would you comment on this experience that I had?

ELIAS: And so it was! (Chuckling)

RODNEY: It was a response.

ELIAS: Yes, and I may express to you also that this type of action occurs quite frequently, in actuality. And you express that you do not engage encounters of your periphery, and I express to you the inquiry, if you are not encountering elements of your periphery, what have you experienced? (Chuckling)

RODNEY: (Laughing) Okay. Itís interesting to me, and a follow-up on that is, last Wednesday night, after I finished a healing session... we have a circle where we engage in hands-on healing exercises, and I sat in my chair afterwards, and it occurred to me that I felt like someone was putting their hands on me in a healing way, and the next thing I knew, I had a sense of my grandmotherís hands resting on my shoulders, and it was just a delightful moment because she was very dear to me Ė IS very dear to me.

I want to ask you about that also because thereís a couple of things about that event. I still have this issue with me saying to myself, ďWell, thatís just my imagination,Ē which Iím attempting to let go.

The second part of it is, is she really there, or is it an aspect of her, or is it ...? I donít know how ... I guess I really donít know how to hold that experience in terms of, is she actually present, or is there a part of her that is actually present?

ELIAS: I may express to you, there is an energy expression and what you may identify as an aspect of this individual that has been interactive, and you have opened yourself, within your expression of energy and your awareness, to be recognizing of that interaction and experiencing that interaction.

I may also express to you that what you experience is not the expression in the identification of your definitions within the confines of your beliefs.

Within this physical dimension, many of you hold religious beliefs that are associated with individuals and death, so to speak Ė what is occurring in the action of death, what occurs after the action of death, where the individual shall be in location after death, what the individual shall be Ė and in all of this, you continue to associate in absolutes, in the identification of the individual as you have associated with that individual in physical interaction.

Once you create the choice to be disengaging from this physical dimension, the expression of you, as the focus which has been physically manifest in this physical dimension, alters.

Now; I may express to you that there are many, many different types of actions and expressions and configurations of consciousness that occur subsequent to disengagement of this physical reality, for there are some actions associated with this particular physical reality in what you may term to be a process that is engaged by the individual focuses once disengagement has occurred.

Now; once the individual moves into the action of transition, the configuration of the individual focus alters. It is not expressed as singularly as it had been expressed within a corporeal manifestation.

The design of your physical reality in this dimension is to be manifesting in an exhibition of corporeal singularity. Therefore, you view yourselves and each other as singular individuals expressed in one physical manifestation of body and personality.

I have expressed to you many times, this, in a manner of speaking, is a type of illusion. It is quite real in relation to your physical manifestation and your physical experience, but it is also simultaneously a type of illusion, for it is a direction of attention that creates the illusion of singularity.

Once you disengage the design of this physical reality and you move into the action of nonphysical transition, the element of corporeal singularity begins to dissipate and becomes expressed less and less and less. This is an automatic action that occurs in conjunction with your shedding of belief systems and your disengagement of objective awareness.

In this, the individual no longer holds their attention in this singular fashion ... which may be associated with your physical dimension. Therefore, you, within your continuance of participating in physical manifestation, continue to view a particular individual in a singular manner.

You may create a thought associated with the individual that you identify as your grandmother, and you view one singular individual. You identify one singular personality. You express that identification as a specific, singular person, and this is how you view and associate with that individual manifestation of that focus.

The perspective of the focus itself is expressed quite differently, for it becomes less and less and less singularly focused. Its attention is not held in the creation of one singular expression of form and personality.

Now; this is not to say that aspects of that focus and their energy may not be interactive with you, but it is not interactive with you in the same manner as you define within your thoughts.

RODNEY: Okay. Itís an aspect. Itís a part of ... when you say aspect, itís kind of like a part of that individualís energy ...


RODNEY: ... is connecting with me.

ELIAS: Yes, and your identification of it....

RODNEY: Is as if it were singular.

ELIAS: Correct, for you are identifying and recognizing the familiarity of the energy expression, and therefore you associate that with the singularity of the person....

RODNEY: That I knew.


RODNEY: Okay. That gives me a much stronger feeling as to whatís going on.

ELIAS: This is not to be discounting of your experience, for it is quite real!

RODNEY: No, I didnít get that it was.

My sense is that the individual who I knew singularly is presently ... I use the word dispersed. Thereís a dispersion of that focusís attention currently, whereas at one point, there was a great deal of attention focused in this reality, prior to her disengagement, but at the moment, that attention has been placed elsewhere, although a part of it still remains.

ELIAS: Correct.

RODNEY: Okay. No, I do not hear you discounting that part because itís only a part. I donít hear that. Itís very real to me.

ELIAS: Quite, and it is quite real in itself!

RODNEY: Okay. Thank you! (Elias chuckles) Yes, as you are quite real!

ELIAS: Quite! (Chuckling, and Rodney laughs)

RODNEY: Speaking of my family members, I had a dream, perhaps less than a month ago, and at the end of the dream ... itís an important dream, and I donít have it all written down clearly in front of me, but I believe it had to do with my perception of essence, and I say that because part of the dream involved like a mountain ridge, and a lot of the land had been excavated, and there was actually a very, very large piece of machinery like you see in a gravel pit, where they sift the sand, and there was also a dam in the middle of the mountain, so that the water was not running out of the mountain.

But at one point, I was showing the property to a man who had come to the house. I think perhaps he wanted to purchase it; Iím not sure. But in walking the land, I walked too close to the edge of a sharp drop-off, and I was fearful of rolling off the mountain, so to speak, and at that point, I believe it was my wife, or this man, we somehow got into a house, but the house began to teeter, as if the house was going to fall off the edge of the mountain, and it did. I was able to get out of the house in time, but I believe it was my wife who was inside the house, and she went down the mountain with the house, and at the bottom of the mountain, the house broke apart, and it was no longer my wife. I thought it was my father, but Iím not certain of this. I came out of the wreckage, and there was something to do with a railroad and a train.

But the significant part of the dream for me is that the man walked to the other side of the valley, and he walked into the mountain and disappeared, and when I ran up there, I saw my fatherís face Ė or I thought it was my father Ė in relief, like in silhouette, coming out of the stone, and I ran up and kissed its cheek and said, I love you, I love you, and the face slid down into the ground and disappeared.

I was very moved by this dream, and it occurred to me that it was an illustration to me of perhaps my fatherís essence, or energy moving into essence. Iím a little unsure of that interpretation. A second aspect of this is that at one point, the person was my wife, and at another point, the person was my father, so thereís a confusion here as to who the person actually was, and Iím wondering if there isnít a relationship between the woman who was my wife and my father, and why I am seeing them as alternating in the dream. Could you comment on my interpretations?

ELIAS: I may express to you an acknowledgment of your interpretation and your identification of what you express as the movement into essence, so to speak. I may also express to you, the reason that you create this interchangeableness in imagery between the identification of your father and the individual of your wife is to be expressing to yourself an identification of intimacy in your relationship with this individual that may have been expressed within some time frameworks and may not have been expressed within other time frameworks.

Therefore, you create a changeableness in the imagery that is presented, creating specific manifestations of individuals in imagery to be associated with particular types of actions or associations of intimacy.

In the moments that your father appears to be your wife, you are identifying to yourself those time frameworks in which there is an expression of intimacy which is recognized, and within other time frameworks, you express the identification of your father as your father, which is your association with the separation between yourself and this individual.

You also image in this manner to be offering yourself an identification of changeability, so to speak, or the lack of absoluteness in a particular expression or manifestation. This allows you, within a feeling association, to be recognizing the lack of singularity of expression of this individual.

Now; let me also express to you in a clarification of your identification in interpretation of this imagery Ė that you feel the information presented that this individual is ďmoving into essence,Ē so to speak.

Let us define this movement, for this is a confusing subject for many individuals within your physical dimension, as you view essence, and you view yourselves as a focus of essence. I have stated many times, you are not a part of essence. You are all of essence, and this creates confusion within your physical associations.

In this, many individuals grapple with this concept, and create the thought process that they are in actuality a part of essence which is manifest into a focus in physical experience and form, and as they disengage from this physical dimension and experience, they shall be re-absorbed, so to speak, into the ďentityĒ of essence.

Now; in this, I have also stated, you do not create what you identify as a re-absorbing into essence, for you are not separated from essence in your manifestation. The distinction is attention. Your attention is held in the manifestation of this focus and of the primary aspect of this focus.

Now; in the wondrous ability of creativity of essence in consciousness, you express the ability to focus many attentions simultaneously in a manner that creates a singularity of each attention, IF you are so choosing, and within the expressions of manifestations in many physical dimensions, and in some nonphysical areas of consciousness, you allow yourself to divide your attention in a fashion that creates this appearance of singularity to provide yourself with an uninterrupted flow of exploration and experience.

In the action of disengaging any particular focus of manifestation, you create a de-focusing of that particular attention.

RODNEY: Upon disengagement?

ELIAS: Subsequent to disengagement; not necessarily upon the moment of disengagement.

Now; in this action, you are not dissipating the identification of personality expression of that particular focus of attention. That focus of attention is not absorbed into some elusive, ďgreaterĒ attention. It is merely allowed to not be singularly focused as one expression of attention.

This be the reason that I have offered many times the expression of identifying the functions of your physical manifestation as a type of example that you may offer to yourselves in more clarity in your understanding of this concept, so to speak, for your physical body and your physical expression of you may be creating many, many, many functions simultaneously, and if you are so choosing, you do hold the ability to allow your attention to be incorporating many functions simultaneously and not become confused, or even overwhelmed.

In this, each of the directions of your attention are not literally what you may separate or segment within yourself as a ďpartĒ of you.

RODNEY: No, theyíre all existing simultaneously.

ELIAS: Correct.

RODNEY: Itís kinda like, if I may interject this, itís kinda like me driving a car, listening to the radio, and enjoying a cup of coffee all at the same time.

ELIAS: Correct. You are performing many functions. Your attention may be held in several directions simultaneously, but each of these attentions are not necessarily segmented as separations of you. They are all you creating many different actions in different directions of attention.

RODNEY: Okay, I understand.

ELIAS: Therefore, in the operation of your vehicle and the engagement of consuming your coffee, in a lack of separation, the coffee and the experience of consuming it is not absorbed into you as an entity, or the vehicle is not absorbed into you as the creator of the vehicle.

RODNEY: Alright....

ELIAS: These are ideas of separation that you attach to essence.

RODNEY: That I what? Would you repeat that last sentence?

ELIAS: You attach these ideas to essence in the association of separation.

You view essence as the creator of you, which creates a separation, and you view yourselves to be a part, which implies a separation, and at disengagement, you view yourself, as that separated part, to be re-absorbed into the creator, which is the essence, and in actuality, what occurs is merely a movement of attention.

RODNEY: Right; understood.

ELIAS: And this is what occurs within the action of your father and what you are offering yourself in your imagery as information, for this is also beneficial to you in relation to self.

RODNEY: The imagery ... in a sense, he has become the mountain, or....

ELIAS: It is all interchangeable.

RODNEY: Right. Itís kinda like the attention has been diffused into the mountain.

ELIAS: Or into ANY exhibition of ANY form.

RODNEY: Okay, okay ... and as the attention is withdrawn from the singularity of his individuality when he was alive on this ... in this dimension....

ELIAS: That is retained. That is continued, but in a manner of speaking, in physical terms, it is expanded, for there is a dropping of the veils of separation. The attention is not divided in that expression of singularity in the manner that it was divided in the manifestation in your physical dimension.

RODNEY: Okay. I get a sense of what youíre talking about....

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

RODNEY: Iím gonna have to sit with it for a while! Itís kinda like itís a continuation of our last discussion.

ELIAS: And it is!

RODNEY: Yes, which I have been opening to.

ELIAS: And this be the reason that you present yourself with this type of imagery.

RODNEY: Right! Okay.

ELIAS: For you are continuing in your exploration of these concepts concerning the lack of separation....

RODNEY: May I interrupt you for just a second?

ELIAS: You may.

RODNEY: As I turn over my tape. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

In this, as you continue your exploration of the lack of separation and the concepts of perception, you also are incorporating imagery to be offering you more information in a manner that moves you into a different type of understanding of this information, not merely a thought-oriented expression of this information.

RODNEY: Yes, I get a sense of that. Itís kinda like the real information is in how I feel about it, because I have a sense that itís ... no way am I gonna put it into words that easily.

ELIAS: Quite.

RODNEY: My understanding is gonna be in how I feel about it.

ELIAS: Quite.

RODNEY: That ... oh, darn it. Excuse me a second.

ELIAS: Very well. (Pause)

RODNEY: To this end, I would like to go back to the last session we had, and in it, you made a statement, and Iíll read it back to you:

ďI may offer you an exercise with an object, and this may be applied to individuals also. I may also express to you the information that even the other individuals that you interact with, you are creating.Ē (reference session 649)

At which point I interrupted you, and itís kinda like I slap my hand for interrupting you, because I do not believe that you ever got back to the exercise that you were going to offer me, and I was wondering if you would pick up on that, as to what you were going to discuss by the meaning of that exercise.

ELIAS: In allowing yourself the recognition that you are creating the expression of the other individual, you may allow yourself to be playful in an exercise of viewing the other individual as you.

In your interaction, as you are engaging another individual and you begin experiencing the expressions that you identify in negativity, so to speak, or that create confusion or conflict within yourself and your interaction, you may allow yourself, temporarily and playfully, to view the other individual no longer as another individual, but as yourself, as a projection of yourself.

Therefore, allow yourself to listen and receive all of the information and expressions that are being projected to you by the other individual as though you yourself were projecting them to yourself. This may offer you a distraction in your intensity of perpetuating the conflict.

It may also offer you an opportunity to view your interaction through a different perception, for if you are viewing the other individualís interaction with you as YOU interacting with you, even momentarily, you may begin asking yourself different questions! (Grinning)

RODNEY: (Laughing) I suspect I will!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) This may be helpful also as an exercise in turning your attention to self, for if the other individual is you also, you have no place to be turning your attention, so to speak, EXCEPT yourself.

RODNEY: Right, and of course, it widens my concept of accountability and responsibility.

ELIAS: Let me also express to you, Zacharie....

RODNEY: It also would heighten my sense of oneness in consciousness with the other individual.

ELIAS: Yes. And let me express to you, a very large aspect of expression in duplicity, which is VERY influencing of your perception and the perceptions of many individuals within your physical dimension, is the identification of kindness Ė your definition and your association with this word and this defined action, so to speak, of kindness Ė for in this one term, there are created tremendous judgments and tremendous expectations.

This may also be helpful in your interactions in which you encounter conflict through the expression of anger, for a very large aspect of the expression of duplicity is manifest in the association with this term of kindness.

You hold expectations of self to be expressing yourself in a manner of kindness, and you hold expectations of other individuals to be exhibiting the same, and if you are not, or if they are not, there are tremendous expressions of judgment which are displayed, and this creates a tremendous expression of conflict within your physical reality.

In this, you may allow yourself to view the manner in which some of the expressions that you deem to be positive and good may also be quite influential in creating the very expressions that you deem to be conflicting and negative.

This is the movement of this belief system of duplicity in its tremendous expression of camouflage, in that you may be creating intense expressions of conflict, and you may be creating your affectingness of dominoes, so to speak, in the association of ONE definition that you view to be good.

RODNEY: Okay. Can I ask you this? I suspect that this action of duplicity in the form of kindness arises very subtly in my actions, and Iíll speak for myself. What can I do to open, to recognize this for what it is in the moment that it happens?

ELIAS: Allow yourself to be noticing. This creates an awareness, and in noticing, allow yourself to be recognizing your own definitions.

In an interaction, even without a thought, you create an association with actions, assessing them to be kind or unkind, within yourself and within the expressions of other individuals.

RODNEY: So what youíre suggesting is to simply notice my actions, and to see when and where this is happening.

ELIAS: Yes. Noticing is a tremendous tool to be widening your awareness.

In this, you may be noticing the choices and actions and interactions of other individuals, and your response and your evaluation of another individualís choices, be they kind or unkind.

RODNEY: Right. Thank you, sir.

ELIAS: For there is much action which occurs in association to this definition.

RODNEY: Of kindness.


RODNEY: Yes, I have a sense of what youíre talking about, and I very much agree. (Elias chuckles) I am such a good person! (Cracking up)

ELIAS: And so you are, my friend! (Grinning)

RODNEY: I am such a duplicitous person! (Laughing)

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And this be the nature of your physical reality throughout your dimension!

RODNEY: Can I move on to another couple of dream elements?

ELIAS: You may.

RODNEY: Elias, I have been dreaming about snakes for an entire lifetime. Many of those dreams, when I was younger, were pretty scary. I wouldnít dream about one snake; I would dream about many snakes. I had a dream several days ago, and my notes are as follows.

Iím on a South Sea Island, and I have to be careful going outside from my cave because thereís a snake out there lying on a very long elevated thing, a branch of some kind, and itís so big that I canít see the end of it, and itís maybe 50 feet off the ground, and I have to keep an eye on it to make sure it doesnít move. All of a sudden, Iím aware that my hand and my arm are being devoured by a very large snake, maybe five or six inches across, and they end up cutting the snake off of my arm in order to save me. I have a sense that my children were there, and my woman, and being devoured by this snake was rather painful, and it woke me up, but they did save my arm.

What am I offering myself in imagery here? I donít know. Although there have been many, many snakes in my dreams, Iím not sure Iíve ever been bit by one of them, and this was being bit in a big way.

ELIAS: And what is your impression concerning this imagery?

RODNEY: Well, Iím aware that a snake is a symbol for a powerful energy, in that it signifies a form of awakening or a quickening. Itís an initiation of sorts into something different from what preceded it. Now, this is not the first time Iíve dreamt of a snake that was huge. Iíve dreamt of those before, big enough to be carried on a railroad car. My sense is that the snake stands for unknown knowledge. The snake stands for something that Iím unfamiliar with. Itís an unknown, and itís coming into my life, and itís going to create a significant change in me or in my life. The fact that the snake bit me on my hand signifies for me that it has to do with my productivity in the world and what I do with my hands, and perhaps with the action of healing, which I do engage in with other people, and that involves my hands. Would you comment on that?

ELIAS: I shall express to you, Zacharie, quite simply, within your creation of imagery throughout your focus, the actions that are engaged associated with the snakes are your creation of imagery in symbology to unfamiliarity, and your response to that unfamiliarity.

The snake itself, or the image of the snake itself, is your symbology that you have created in association with yourself and fear. You image your expressions of fear in association with this creature.

RODNEY: Fear of the unknown, of that which is not familiar?

ELIAS: Correct. At times you create this imagery of this snake in association with fear in expressions that ARE known. At times you also create this imagery in association with unfamiliar expressions.

The snake itself is the representation of fear itself. The actions incorporated with the snake, or that the snake may manifest, are the representation of the associations with the fear, or in your terms, the ďreasonĒ for the expression of the fear.

In this situation, it is the recognition of unfamiliarity, and the intensity of uncomfortableness that is associated with that unfamiliarity.

RODNEY: Okay. In this particular instance, I was bitten. It was attempting to devour me.

ELIAS: And you are moving into quite unfamiliar territory presently, are you not?


ELIAS: In your movement in opening to your periphery and widening your awareness, offering yourself more information and assimilating more information, you are moving your awareness into quite unfamiliar areas, and this creates an air, so to speak, of unpredictability, which also creates an expression of a lack of control, and that creates a sense of fear.

RODNEY: Okay, Iím glad you mentioned the word control. It occurred to me recently that when one attempts or when one is in the business of controlling something, there is a firm belief in place that that which is being controlled is in some way out of control or dangerous or whatever.

ELIAS: Ah, yes! That which is out of control, within your beliefs, is unpredictable, and holds the potential ...

RODNEY: To be hurtful.

ELIAS: ... to be hurtful and dangerous.

RODNEY: Right. Now, I had an interesting experience a couple of weeks ago. I thought that I would like to have another bookcase in my apartment, but getting the time to build it or buy it and move it presented problems, and instead of focusing on the problems, I chose to allow this bookcase to come into my life, and I let it go at that, but I definitely set the intention that I would like to have that bookcase in my apartment, and yesterday, less than two weeks later, the bookcase not only materialized, it materialized at a very low cost, and it was already assembled and it was exactly what I wanted, and it was delivered free of charge to my apartment. So it comes to me or what I get from that is, allowing things to happen is a very, very powerful movement in consciousness.

ELIAS: Quite.

RODNEY: And does not require control.

ELIAS: And you are correct.

RODNEY: Weíre nearing an end here, I believe. Iíd like to go back to the first evening I met you, which was back in May, 1998, and Vic entitled that session ďStrange Times,Ē and Iím sure you remember that I slept through most of the session. (Elias chuckles) Iím reading it with much joy, and you made this statement in it:

ďYou are leery of plunging yourselves directly into the middle of your Bermuda Triangle within your own home, but this triangle holds wondrous elements, and within it you hold wondrous creativity.Ē (reference session 284)

I would like to pose the question ... that suggests to me that we actually open to those elements within our own home, within our own being, that are indeed fearful. Is this what youíre suggesting here? Would you care to elaborate on my interpretation of that?

ELIAS: You ARE opening to these expressions. This is the action of this shift in consciousness.

RODNEY: Okay, okay. I thought you might say that.

ELIAS: And this is what you are engaging, and associated with this action is unfamiliarity, which you respond to unfamiliarity with fear and confusion, at times conflict, and even trauma.

RODNEY: Okay. Iíd like to ask you one more short question.

ELIAS: Very well.

RODNEY: I woke up the other morning, realizing that Iíd had this long dream, and at different times during the dream, it appeared that I was designing an object, and at the end of the dream Ė or at least thatís my sense of it Ė the object came together, and the object was a series of rings, or discs, I should say, and between each pair of discs there was a slender glass tube filled with a particular color, and there was an array of these, like one pair on top of another pair on top of another pair, each having a different tube in a different place with a different color, and at the end of the dream, they all came together, so that there were all these tubes of color suspended between these two discs, and then they came together like a ball.

I have a note here that this all occurred near my kitchen sink, and I have a remembrance of an event the evening before I dreamt this that I had been looking at a painting in a dimly lit room, and in looking at the painting, I saw a painting of a woman standing, looking out a window, but when I looked at the painting, I saw superimposed on the painting another painting of a manís face, and I thought, one way to open to unofficial data is to not perceive in such an absolute way, but to allow the images to suggest what they suggest, and I thought, wouldnít it be nice to create some kind of an object that one could look at that would promote this? Then I laughed at myself because thatís kinda what people do when they look into tea leaves and tell the future. But I wondered if you might comment on all of these impressions, especially my creation of this object within my dream.

ELIAS: Which is the object of your attention presently, in what you are associating with in relation to your wonderment at how you create elements of your reality, and your ability to alter those creations, and your viewing of different configurations of energy within the same object.

You express the idea of tea leaves and viewing different expressions within their configuration. You also allow yourselves this action in viewing your clouds within your sky, and you hold this ability to be creating this same action within all that occupies your physical reality in solidity, and I continue to express this to you.

You are correct Ė as you allow yourself to relax your attention, and allow yourself to view the energy of all that you create within your reality, you may also view that your reality is not quite as solid as it physically appears to be.

This may be helpful to you also in your assimilation of the information concerning perception and the power of your perception, that you hold the ability, by merely altering your perception, to also be in actuality reconfiguring physical matter, and if you may be reconfiguring physical matter, you may also be reconfiguring the energy expressions of all other designs within your reality.

RODNEY: Are you saying that when I looked at the picture, and in relaxing my attention, I created through my perception a physical image? The image was there?


RODNEY: Of the manís head?


RODNEY: Thank you very much, sir.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, sir.

RODNEY: I have enjoyed this so much!

ELIAS: Ha ha!

RODNEY: Thank you, again and again and again!

ELIAS: And as always, I express to you tremendous affection, and a reciprocation of enjoyment of our conversations.

RODNEY: Thank you, thank you, thank you! I look forward to our next meeting.

ELIAS: And I also, my friend. To you this day, in great lovingness and encouragement in energy, au revoir.

RODNEY: Love to you also. Goodbye.

Elias departs at 11:08 AM.

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