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Friday, January 26, 2001

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“Dropping the Veil of Separation”

“Associating Emotion with Each of the Energy Centers Is a Distortion”

“The Action of Hypnosis”

Participants: Mary (Michael), Jim (Yarr), and Cathy (Shynla).

Elias arrives at 2:43 PM. (Arrival time 23 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon.

JIM: Good afternoon, Elias.

ELIAS: We meet again!

JIM: Once again! (Elias chuckles) It’s been a while – I’ve been assimilating! (Laughing)


JIM: At least I believe I have! It’s a start.

In our last session of some time ago, the statement that you made, “the pony is you,” that changed a lot of things for me, a lot of patterns, a lot of thinking, a lot of perception, and I’d like to go into that a little bit more, starting off with our creatures and how we are them in these situations, and our relationships with them.

With this particular pony of April, who pulled through what I view to be her anomalies and injuries and so forth, and is holding on to one aspect of that within her hock, I work at viewing it, letting go of the beliefs, viewing the color within our exercise that she and I have created. I’d like to get some more insight as to what I may still be holding onto in these areas, and how I can further my growth and my own insight.

ELIAS: Identification – what are you holding to? Doubt.

JIM: Yeah, I’d say that’s probably number one! (Laughs) Each time it creeps in. I have moments of clarity, and lately they seem to be getting longer and longer, but there still is somewhat of a shadow of doubt.

ELIAS: Correct. You acknowledge to yourself that you hold an ability, but you continue to doubt that you are actually creating your reality and all that occupies it. You continue to create the separation – the creature is a separate entity from yourself – and in this, you incorporate the doubt.

For in the separation in viewing yourself as one entity and viewing the creature as another entity, you express the underlying association – which at times is not so very underlying – within yourself that you are co-creating with the creature: you are creating in part, and the creature is creating in part. And I may express to you, there is no co-creating. YOU are creating. The creature is, in a manner of speaking, an extension of you.

It exists within your reality for you have created it to exist within your reality. It is a projection of you. It is manifest in your reality as an expression of your perception. Therefore, what you present to yourself in its manifestation or its behavior or its responses are a direct reflection of you.

JIM: Okay. So ... hmm!

ELIAS: As you interact with the creature or with an individual, and you view any manifestation, expression, action within that creature or individual, you are presenting this to yourself as a reflection of yourself.

And in this, as you allow yourself to pay attention to your own communications, you may also examine within you what YOU are creating within the moment, for your presentment of imagery is the reflection that you offer to yourself to allow yourself, in a manner of speaking, an example.

JIM: Of my thoughts within that moment?

ELIAS: Not necessarily your thoughts, but what you are creating, what you are experiencing.

As I have stated, in this physical dimension, one of the most integral aspects of this physical dimension is communication, and in that, it is the communication that you offer to yourself. You have created a physical reality which incorporates in its design the expression of separation, which has created an efficient design within this reality in the manner in which you have chosen to be experiencing it.

But you are changing your reality. You ARE incorporating this shift in consciousness quite purposefully. Therefore, you are altering your perception of your physical reality, which in actuality alters the reality itself.

In this alteration of your reality, one of the most important and strongest expressions that you are moving into in altering your perception is dropping this veil of separation, continuing to be manifest with this physical dimension to be experiencing physical manipulation of consciousness, but dropping the veil of separation in the manner in which you have associated with your reality previously.

Acceptance is the other most expressive and important aspect of the movement that you are creating within this shift in consciousness.

But this aspect of dropping the veil of separation also creates a TREMENDOUS alteration of your reality, for your association automatically moves in the defining of yourself and any other aspect, any other manifestation, within your dimension as separate entities.

You associate that you are you, a creature is a creature, another individual is another individual, a mountain is a mountain, an ocean is an ocean, a tree is a tree, and all of these are separate entities, and all of these create their own reality, and all of these create their own choices. In relation to consciousness, this is correct; in relation to the links of consciousness, this is correct. In relation to YOU as all of consciousness, this is incorrect, for you as all of consciousness are allowing yourself to focus attention into a physical manifestation.

You are not a separate entity. You are a projection of attention, and in like manner, all that this focus of attention views and interacts with is a creation of that focus of attention. Your physical self that you recognize as an individual, a physical body, is a projection of your attention, and every other aspect of your entire universe is also.

Therefore, you are you, and all that is within your reality is a projection of you also, for it is all created through your perception – other individuals, your creatures, your world, your universe – and each individual is a focus of attention, and each individual is also creating the same action. Therefore, within this one physical dimension, within this one physical reality, there are billions of physical realities being created, all simultaneously, and that is expressed merely in this one moment in this one time framework. There are NUMBERLESS realities being created in this moment in relation to simultaneous time, without the veil of separation of time frameworks.

JIM: That’s boggling!

ELIAS: You view your universe to be one entity and that you are an entity placed within it, and that all other aspects of your reality are other entities placed within your physical universe as separate from yourself.

JIM: And placed in it outside of me.

ELIAS: Correct!

JIM: The truth is, I’ve placed them there.

ELIAS: You have created ALL of it. You may look to the billions of individuals that occupy your planet, and each of them is creating what you are creating: their own individual projection of the entirety of their universe. For you are ALL consciousness, and in actuality, there is no separation of consciousness.

In simplistic terms – without moving your thought process into overwhelmingness (Elias smiles) — you move your attention to you, and allow yourself to concentrate your attention upon you and what you are creating, for this is the design of this physical dimension, allowing aspects of consciousness, focuses of attention, to create an entire universe through their perception, and to move and manipulate energy in that physical universe.

Your physical universe may appear similar to Shynla’s, but it is not entirely the same, for it is created by you and through your perception. You may, in a manner of speaking, share experiences with Borloh. You may choose to be creating similarities of your universes, and within your identifications you may create similar expressions of your creatures, of your environment, but they are not identical, for you create YOUR creatures, she creates her creatures.

JIM: And many times they’re the same creature, or if we...

ELIAS: You associate that it is the same creature, for this is the design of separation.

JIM: Ah! Okay.

ELIAS: This is the mechanics of separation. In actuality, you are creating your perception, which is the projection of your reality.

Therefore, all that exists within your reality is a projection of you, and all that is presented within your reality offers you communication. For the design of this physical dimension, incorporating separation, is that you shall present yourself with numberless reflections of you, for you are the only aspect of your reality that you have forgotten and that you do not know.

JIM: Yes, and seems untouchable.

ELIAS: Therefore, you present yourself with reflections of yourself continuously. You create reflections of yourself in the magnificence of the design of your physical environment. You create reflections of yourself in challenges and struggles that your creatures may engage. You create reflections of yourself in the majesty of what you identify as your wildlife and its self-sufficiency. You create reflections of yourself in conflicts and confusions with other individuals. You create reflections of yourself in every aspect of your reality, to offer to you communication as to what you are and what you are creating. All of this offers you information, and you efficiently move beyond all of these types of communications through reflections to yourself and offer yourself precise communications within yourself.

You are quite intricate. You create inner senses, you create outer senses. You create impulses, you create impressions, you create emotion, you create physical expressions within your physical body, all of which serve as a communication to you, to precisely identify what you are creating and choosing within each moment of your reality.

Now; the element of separation and lack of acceptance, which are the two movements which you incorporate in this shift, are those that allow you to be redefining how you have been associating with your reality, and allow you a clearer recognition and interpretation of what you are actually creating.

JIM: That’s the exploration part of interpreting the communication and interpreting the reflection, and not viewing the reflection as something wrong, gone awry. So everything can be viewed as a positive, so to speak, reflection?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. As you move more into a genuine expression of acceptance and recognition of a lack of separation, it moves beyond an association of positive, and moves into the neutral.

JIM: In my most recent reflection, then, with my dog who we had for fifteen years, I saw a lot of the same that I experienced with the pony a while back, and “making the appointment.” (1) You expressed that the creature does not make the appointment, I make the appointment. That was another “wow!” (Laughs) And viewing him getting old, getting arthritic, I had the distinct feeling from him that this is just all a process that he’s going through, and it’s perfectly okay, and there’s no need for me to be concerned about him.

And the morning that he passed, I sat down with him and told him how great a dog he had been, and thanked him and let him go. He passed away an hour later. So was that ... I was letting go of that, and so he in agreement disengaged as well, or did we form an agreement?

ELIAS: It is not a question of agreement.

JIM: Okay, I understand.

ELIAS: It is a natural expression.

JIM: Just a natural expression, okay. And as far as making the appointment, within my reflection of what we’re talking about, there was a part of me that said, “This dog could live for another fifteen years,” but my belief is that fifteen years old is old for a dog, and I accepted that belief. But then there was a two-sided coin that I perceived, that I saw where my belief was and how I was objectifying it, and I wanted to try and move beyond that, take that belief and accept it, and move beyond that.

ELIAS: But what is the motivation? The motivation is that you view that the moving beyond is better.

JIM: I guess I was. For myself, I guess moving beyond, that would be “better.” If I could do that, that would be...

ELIAS: But this is not the point.

JIM: It’s not the point, sure.

ELIAS: This is not the point of this shift, and you are participating in this shift. The point is acceptance, and “better” is a judgment.

JIM: Is a judgment, okay. So everything was perfect the way that it occurred; all in alignment, okay.

ELIAS: It is not the elimination of the belief, it is the recognition of the belief and the recognition that this is acceptable, which eliminates struggle and allows for the genuine expression of acceptance, that you are creating choices and the choices are neutral. It matters not.

Therefore, the imagery that you are creating also matters not. They are projections of your choices, and in this, they are not better or worse.

JIM: You express what I felt.

ELIAS: You have created a creature within the design of your beliefs. You have created a duration of its existence in physical manifestation. You have followed the associations and whispers of your beliefs in relation to age and physical manifestations in conditions and dis-ease, as your belief dictates, as a natural aspect of an aging process, and you have created the de-manifestation of your creation in relation to your beliefs.

In acceptance of those beliefs – not the attempt to be eliminating them by moving beyond them — in the recognition that you hold these beliefs and the acceptance of these beliefs, you offer yourself the recognition that these are merely choices. It matters not. There is no elimination of consciousness; the creature is not gone.

JIM: No, not at all.

ELIAS: It has merely reconfigured, for it is your perception and your projection of energy, and as there is no separation, how shall you separate your energy from you? (Jim sighs and chuckles) You merely move and manipulate energy, and reconfigure it. Therefore, it continues to be an aspect of you and your creation. It is reconfigured in another expression. Your attention is moved in another direction, and there is no better or worse.

JIM: Okay. Well, a little bit of assimilating to do there, but I think...

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

JIM: (Laughing) Okay, I got some of the points. Thank you!

ELIAS: You are very welcome!

JIM: The other area that I would like to look at are the attributes and qualities of our energy centers, other than the physiological, anatomical parts that we’ve talked about in the past.

Recently I was reading an author who expressed about her teachers and so forth, and that the fourth energy center of green “rules our compassion, forgiveness, generosity and love. The fourth chakra stimulates our highest ideals.”

And I’d like to ... if you could offer some information on moving through all the energy centers along these lines? I know they’re affecting. I’d like to get some insight as to how they relate to other aspects of our lives, I guess. We’ve reviewed the tones of colors, which I understand a lot of that as well, and there’s some other things there that I’d like to get some insight into.

ELIAS: I have offered previously the identification of non-physical, in a manner of speaking, expressions of each of these energy centers. As example, I have expressed that the orange energy center moves in expression of sexuality. The blue energy center moves in relation to communication.

In this, these energy centers are an expression of you. They are not governing of you.

JIM: I understand that.

ELIAS: YOU create specific manipulations of energy that you project into a physical expression. This is the manifestation of these energy centers. They are as physical as your physical body. You do not visually view them – although you may, for they are a physical expression of energy.

JIM: We can physically feel them.

ELIAS: Correct. And if allowing yourself, you may even incorporate your physical vision and view the expression of these energy centers. You may view the actual colors. You may view your actual energy field which surrounds your physical body, which is an incorporation of the expressions or the projection of energy of all of your energy centers that you incorporate within your physical body.

In this, individuals may create associations with the expressions of each of these energy centers, and attribute certain qualities or emotions to each of these energy centers. But I may express to you that there is a considerable expression of distortion in these types of associations, for there is an association with emotion which is attached to each energy center in these types of expressions that individuals incorporate, such as what you have presented to yourself within the incorporation of the book – the identification of certain emotions in relation to certain energy centers. Your identification of love in this physical dimension, your definition of compassion, incorporates an association with emotion. Associating emotion with each of the energy centers is a distortion.

You identify an expression of energy in the incorporation of the movement of one energy center in association with emotion. This, in a manner of speaking, is the avenue, in physical terms, that you offer to yourself, figuratively speaking, as the pathway for the subjective communication of emotion through a physical energy expression, and as you are aware, this is expressed through the yellow energy center. The other energy centers that you incorporate do not facilitate that exchange.

Emotion is a communication. It is not a reaction, it is not a response, it is not a gauge, and it is not merely identified by defining the signal of the feeling. It is an actual communication which is offered by the subjective awareness to the objective awareness. In physical terms, the pathway which is incorporated to facilitate the physical action of that communication is through this one energy center. The other energy centers are associated with other communications.

JIM: Okay.

ELIAS: As you do not define emotion as a communication, you associate many emotions with other expressions, for you associate emotion with action, as a reaction.

In this, as you look to the qualities of each energy center, you easily create an association of different expressions of emotions in relation to the qualities of those energy centers. You may attribute different expressions of emotion to an energy center that expresses a quality of spirituality, but the emotion is a communication. It is not an identification of a response in relation to an action.

What shall you associate with spirituality in relation to emotion? Joy? Incorrect. In that type of association, you are expressing a reaction or a response in association with an identification of a quality or an action.

JIM: The qualities being what we had spoken about previously of the energy centers?

ELIAS: Correct. This type of expression of beliefs or associations of emotional qualities or expressions in association with the different energy centers is born of religious beliefs.

JIM: It seems that the lower energy centers, so to speak, or the slower, for me seem to have a more energetic effect, whereas the higher energy centers seem to have a calming effect – the higher the vibration, the more calming the energy; the slower the vibration, the more vibrating the energy.

ELIAS: (Quietly) And not necessarily. This is your association...

JIM: That’s my perception.

ELIAS: ...within your interaction with your energy centers, but it is not necessarily the expression or the rule.

JIM: Sure.

ELIAS: In actuality, those energy centers incorporating what you term to be a slower vibrational quality may be allowing a calming physical affectingness, a clarity, for they allow you to slow your perception and view clearly what you are creating.

JIM: They do possess different qualities at different times, in different situations and different actions.

ELIAS: Yes. You may incorporate them in either fashion. It is your choice within the moment in how you shall incorporate the manipulation of that individual energy center. It is not locked to an absolute of action in relation to its vibrational quality.

JIM: Okay. I can relate to that.

So within ... hmm. I’m not feeling where I want to go. (Elias chuckles) I’m buzzing right now! (Laughing) I’ve got to assimilate that!

ELIAS: Very well!

JIM: (Laughing) There’s a lot of shifting going on right now!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

JIM: The direction that I’m moving in right now with my new sojourn of supportive energy therapies, and the draw that I’ve offered myself in this area and other people coming to me, this seems to be very much in alignment with my intent, and it feels very comfortable. This is an area – I don’t know if this is crystal ball time or not (laughing) – but it’s an area that is a natural flow for me, it feels, and to develop this and develop my inner senses as a reader, not so much as reading other people, but helping people read themselves.

ELIAS: You are correct, and you offer yourself the opportunity to practice, and to be reminding yourself of your area or expression of hesitation in your doubt.

JIM: Yeah, there is that, but then when I move it out of the way...

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM:’s not even there; it’s not even an issue. But when I’m not involved in it, then it’s an issue.

ELIAS: But you are offering yourself validation and recognition that in the moments that you are not incorporating this doubt, you accomplish.

JIM: Okay, yeah.

ELIAS: And you do hold the ability to be manipulating energy and recognizing energy expressions, and you have offered yourself much practice in these expressions, and you have become familiar with energy expressions.

In this, as you validate yourself, you may continue to be recognizing the moments in which you move into the expression of doubt; but in this, you also offer yourself much more freedom of your choice, for you ARE recognizing the moments of your doubt.

JIM: Yes, and there are becoming more moments. Okay, thank you.

In manipulating one’s energy ... under self-hypnosis or under hypnosis, a person is told that this is tepid water, yet it’s ice water, and they stick their hand in and they can leave it in there forever. Objectively, you look at it, this is ice water, you put your hand in it and your hand freezes. Is that an aspect of a belief at that point, because the person that is hypnotized doesn’t believe that that’s ice cold water? Has anything changed within their energy? Is there a way to objectively manipulate or objectively think of one’s energy, that it’s not freezing cold water, that I can stick my hand in and I can leave it there, or is that based in belief systems?

ELIAS: It is based in your perception.

JIM: Based in your perception — then that’s where the hypnosis comes in.

ELIAS: You alter your perception. You shift your perception. And in actuality, the facilitator of the hypnosis continues to create a perception that the water is ice water. The individual that has allowed the hypnosis has allowed themselves to move or turn their perception, and therefore, in their reality, the water is warm. There is an actual physical alteration of the reality. But as I have stated, you are each creating two realities.

Therefore, the facilitator continues in the expression of their perception. They are not altering their perception or turning their perception, and the temperature of the water continues to be freezing. The individual engaging the allowance of the hypnosis or hypnotic state, so to speak, has chosen to turn their perception.

This is the action that they are incorporating in what you term to be the hypnotic state. It is merely an allowance of themselves temporarily to be relaxing and turning their attention, altering their perception, and in the alteration of the perception, they create the actual physical expression of the neutrality or warmness of the water, and their physical reality creates actual physical water which is not freezing.

JIM: So we can very easily do that in a non-hypnotic, fully awakened, objective state.

ELIAS: You are correct.

JIM: We do it all the time!

ELIAS: You are correct! You also incorporate your thought process in a manner which it is not designed, to override what you are creating and what you communicate to yourself, and express to yourself that you have NOT created or that it is imagination or not real.

JIM: So the other day when you said, “You are not your thoughts,” that was a very powerful statement.

ELIAS: Quite! Your thoughts are an instrument. They are a tool that you have created in this physical reality, with a specific function. They are not you — they are an expression of you. (Brief pause, and Elias chuckles)

JIM: Once again, just a few things to work on there!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! (Jim laughs, and another pause)

JIM: Hmm. I think that’s about it! (Jim and Elias both crack up)

ELIAS: And as you have begun this conversation expressing to myself that you have been incorporating much assimilation, and so you shall continue to do! Ha ha ha ha ha!

JIM: That’s what I do! (Laughing)

ELIAS: HA HA! And I continue to express tremendous encouragement to you, my friend, for you are offering yourself much movement, are you not?

JIM: Yes! I think mainly I’m offering myself acknowledgment of my own movement, and...

ELIAS: Which holds significance...

JIM: It does. It holds a great deal for myself.

ELIAS: ...for this allows you to move more fully into your own acceptance.

JIM: Yes. The separation of what we’ve spoken of at the beginning of our conversation, in viewing Jim and Yarr as separate entities, and they are not.

ELIAS: They are not, and Yarr is not a separate entity from consciousness.

JIM: For it IS consciousness...

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: ...and all, everything, that I view and put before me within my physical perception.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: So the other day when we were driving up the canyon, suddenly I looked up and there was a beautiful rainbow right in front of us. And the first thing out of my mouth was, “I want to be able to see all energy like this,” and I thought, “That energy is always there. Those colors are always there.” Yet in our thoughts, it takes a light rain to bring them out. But there’s no reason why I just can’t look out there and see a world ... I do see a world full of color. But within that rainbow, that color, that energy, that was an expression to me that it is always here...

ELIAS: You are correct.

JIM: ...and in myself. I’ve had glimpses of that within myself, where I’ve had to question what that was, what did I just see? And I gave myself my answers, and I wasn’t sure of my answers, didn’t trust my answers, but...


JIM: ...I’m gonna go with those impressions and go, “Yep, that’s what you saw!”

ELIAS: You are correct.

JIM: Okay.

ELIAS: Notice that action. This is the thought process attempting to override the communication. You have offered yourself a communication through your physical visual sense which is an avenue of communication, and you attempt to override that communication through thought.

JIM: Through thought. That relates to my beliefs, my cultural beliefs and society...

ELIAS: Correct. (Chuckling)

JIM: Okay! Well, moving on... (Laughing)

ELIAS: And so you are, my friend, and accomplishing! And I am greatly encouraging of you, and continue to express my offering of energy to you always.

JIM: It’s so well noted, and I see it in a lot of different ways. In fact, I think more of the essences that are involved with us – Rose, Otha, Ayla — they are still there in a very large way, as well as Yarr.

ELIAS: Always present.

JIM: Always present, yes. (Elias chuckles) Well, thank you very much. As always, you’ve been a great friend with great insight.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend, and we shall continue in the sojourn together.

JIM: Cool! (Laughs, and Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: I express to you tremendous affection, and anticipation of our continued interaction.

JIM: Thank you, and I as well.

ELIAS: To you this day, au revoir.

JIM: Good day.

Elias departs at 3:45 PM.


(1) Refer to session 525, December 22, 1999.

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