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Tuesday, April 17, 2001

<  Session 824 (Private/Phone)  >

ďNoticing the CamouflageĒ

Participants: Mary (Michael), Melinda (Sena), and Tom (Malhai).

Elias arrives at 11:11 AM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

MELINDA: Good morning, Elias. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: We meet again.

MELINDA: Yes, and how nice. Good to talk to you again! Weíve been enjoying a nice talk with Mary.

TOM: Iíve gotten some sweeping imagery while we were talking. What was that about? What were you sweeping? (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! And what is your interpretation?

TOM: Sweeping away all those automatic pilots? (Laughs) Cosmic debris, letís call it.

ELIAS: Ah! Very well. And I may express to you, this is an offering of an expression of the ease in which you may be creating that action in recognizing these automatic responses and turning your perception. This is not the difficult movement that individuals view it to be.

TOM: Do you want to start Melinda? We were talking about a fog last week, and of course we both have noticed ... seems like we had it combined. You had two light bulbs go out, Melinda, and I had two at the same time.

MELINDA: Yes, I think it was around the same time of day, within a couple of hours. So we blamed it on you, Elias.


MELINDA: (Laughing) Itís funny how you managed to reach North Dakota and Louisiana at the same time!

ELIAS: Amazing! (Laughs)

MELINDA: We are most impressed with you.

TOM: Well, itís all the same space isnít it? It doesnít matter.

MELINDA: Exactly. I was just giving him a little cosmic credit! (Elias chuckles)

Well, thereís been a different kind of energy around lately, Elias. I donít know whether itís just me or whether itís the next wave in consciousness, but for me, it shows up in self-identity and just a real ... god, I donít know how to explain it! Iím not the person I thought I was all these years. The image that Iíve been holding up to society, or what I thought I should be, isnít really what I want to be and what I am inside. I think thereís a part of me that just quit ... has noticed that I was doing that. Itís kind of weird now, because Iím not who I thought I was. So thatís a little strange.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

MELINDA: I figured you might be. Can you give a little comment on that?

ELIAS: Very well. I may express to you, collectively you are not engaging another or a new wave in consciousness yet. I may also express to you that you are allowing yourselves what may be termed as a further movement in the current waves of sexuality and of duplicity, for both continue to be expressed, and in these two waves that are occurring, in a manner of speaking, there is a movement into an expression of discovery in the action of creating an actual intimacy with self.

Now; in relation to duplicity, you move into deeper layers of the expressions of duplicity, allowing yourselves to view more clearly the expressions of camouflage, that which you create within your own expression. Individuals are moving more into an awareness of self and your genuine expressions and identification of self in much more of a fullness than you have allowed yourself to view previously.

Some aspects of duplicity create these expressions of camouflage and persona so much so that you as individuals within your physical dimension associate with the camouflage more intimately than you do with your genuine identity. Therefore, the camouflage becomes your identity and all that you view.

As you move more objectively in the expression of this shift in consciousness and become more familiar with yourselves, what you are in a manner of speaking creating is pulling back the layers of camouflage, in like manner to the action of peeling layers of an onion in which eventually you expose the core, and this is the genuine expression of yourself. As you move more fully into the action of this shift in consciousness, you are moving through layers of yourself in discovery of yourself as essence and what that incorporates.

To this point, as you are aware, the movement of this shift in consciousness has been expressed in a subjective manner. Now you move into the objective awakening, in a manner of speaking, and allow yourselves to be creating this genuine intimacy with self and discovery of yourself as essence.

Previously, the separation continued in the association that you are a focus, therefore you hold a specific type of individuality and personality, and that is your identity. This is the expression of the camouflage, for you continued to view essence as an elusive entity outside of yourself, or that you may merely be a part of essence.

Now as you move into the objective insertion of this shift in consciousness, you begin SHIFTING your perception through the layers of camouflage to allow yourself a new discovery of your genuine identity as the expression of essence, incorporating a much fuller knowing and understanding of yourself objectively, which also offers you a tremendous expression of freedom, for you allow yourself much more movement than you may have expressed previously. Are you understanding?

MELINDA: That makes a lot of sense, Elias. I keep thinking of different things as youíre talking, and one is that I think Iíve lived a lot of my life according to what I think I should have been, rather than paying attention to what I actually am. Thereís been a conflict or a difference between what I know myself to be and what I think is expected of me.

Now Iím really becoming more aware and willing to express who I actually am, even when it differs from maybe those around me. What I also have been feeling Ė and this is so cool, and maybe this is what you mean about getting to know essence Ė is that itís a sense of falling in love with myself. Itís the feeling of just wonderful blissful love.


MELINDA: I donít know if thatís what youíre talking about, but thatís how I experience it.

ELIAS: Yes. I may express to you, you are correct. And this is, in actuality, the point.

For in this, previously within your associations and your definitions and your movements, your attention automatically is projected outside, and in that projection of attention, you create specific associations and expectations, and in that movement, you define to yourself certain manners in which you may or may not create your reality in relation to the dictates of your reality, in a manner of speaking, which is also the expression of holding your attention outside of self.

As I have expressed previously, it is confusing to many individuals initially to be entertaining the thought process of creating a relationship with self, for your definition of relationship requires involvement of more than one individual or more than one entity, and your experience is that you may be creating of an expression that you identify as love, but that expression is projected to and prompted by another individual. How may you create that type of expression in relation to yourself?

But you are, in a manner of speaking, creating a relationship with an aspect of yourself which has been objectively unknown to you previously. Therefore, figuratively speaking, you are almost creating an expression of two beings within yourself, for you are allowing the focus of attention to turn and view the genuine self, and this invokes a greater expression of what you term to be love than any expression that you may offer to another individual. (17-second pause)

TOM: Everybody gone subjective? (Elias and Melinda laugh) There was much communication subjectively there, too.

ELIAS: What you are creating, as I have expressed previously, is a redefining of yourselves and of your reality. In this, you are allowing yourselves the recognition that your environment, your societies, your beliefs, your outside associations are not in actuality what define you, and who and what you are.

Throughout your history, this is the manner in which you have defined yourselves, and even within this individual focus you have continued this type of association in defining yourselves as the individuals that you perceive yourselves to be. What you are discovering now is that regardless of the outside influences within your expression of yourself, you create your identity and your expression of yourself, and it shall be what you have designed it to be, regardless of outside influences. And now you are allowing yourself to discover what that identity is.

TOM: When you discover that identity, donít you project totally differently than what you have done objectively also?

ELIAS: Partially, not entirely. For throughout your manifestation, you have and do allow yourselves expressions of your genuine self. You merely are not objectively recognizing of that.

But I may express to you also, yes, there are other aspects of your expressions and your identity that are expressed quite differently as you discover this genuine identity that you hold and as you offer to yourself in that discovery a genuine appreciation of that identity. Therefore, yes, you are correct, there is MUCH of your objective reality that is altered, but not entirely altering.

TOM: And to increase ... give us more choices.

ELIAS: Quite.

MELINDA: Well, Iím all for anything that gives me more choices! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: And you are what shall provide you with more choices. Ha ha ha!

MELINDA: Then I guess Iím for me then, huh? (Laughing)

TOM: I think thereís a merging going on here. (Laughs)

MELINDA: That tends to happen.

TOM: A three-way merging, and more.

ELIAS: Which is quite easily expressed, is it not?

TOM: Yes, it is. So, I should ask you about Gerhardís dream.

ELIAS: If you are so choosing.

TOM: Do you have any comments on his dream? Or should I explain it a little bit? I know you know the dream.

ELIAS: Offer description for other individuals.

TOM: Okay. He had a dream about me as a captain of an aircraft, where I spent half a year in Vienna, half a year somewhere else, and I held flight sessions, and I did some video work. He said maybe the building looked familiar Ė it was a building in Vienna Ė but he couldnít quite place this building and couldnít locate it as existing. The videos are mostly buildings made of light, viewed from the aircraft, about 50 meters away from the buildings, and then he said I added some colored fiber optics, three to five in number, moving in opposite directions to these videos, and something with the flight classes. He was wondering about my input on it, but I figured I would get your input.

ELIAS: Express to me, first of all, your impression.

TOM: My impression?

ELIAS: Correct.

TOM: Well, I had two impressions. One was of another focus that lived in Europe, and the other one dealt with some of the things that we do in The City and that are objectively interpreted through dreams.

ELIAS: I shall express to you, this dream imagery which has been offered is not an expression of literal objective actions.

TOM: Theyíre symbolic?

ELIAS: Correct.

TOM: So, it is more or less the expression of our subjective movement with the shift, I would guess. (Laughing) Although I never guess at anything, do I? (Elias laughs) I do that a lot!

ELIAS: I may express to you, this interpretation is more closely associated with the expression of this dream imagery, for in this, the action which is occurring in this dream imagery is symbolic of movement that you are allowing yourself in relation to widening your awareness presently, allowing yourself to project aspects of your consciousness to actual physical locations other than the location which you reside within, allowing yourself an interplay of energy with other individuals and experimenting with different types of manipulation of energy.

The travel within the aircraft in the dream imagery is symbolic of your movement in projection. The photography, so to speak, and the incorporation of the manner in which you create a creative expression of it is symbolic imagery concerning your experimentation of manipulation of energy that you engage presently. Are you understanding?

TOM: Yes, I am. With these projections, I have been more, should I say, cautious because of the intensity of the objective interpretations that many have of essence, maybe even why ... itís that two-headed thing again, humility and ... that still has duplicity there, doesnít it?

ELIAS: Yes! Ha ha ha! I am understanding.

TOM: I know you are! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Therefore, you are experimenting with actual manipulation of energy and configurations of energy patterns that shall be expressed differently in your objective awareness that Ė as you have allowed yourself to become, in a manner of speaking, proficient in your projections Ė other individuals also hold an objective awareness of your energy and presence. And in this, I am aware of your experimentation of manipulating energy in different types of expressions and different manners, and this is what is being expressed in the symbology, so to speak, in this dream imagery: configuring energy in a creative manner in a new inventiveness, in a manner of speaking.

TOM: It seems some of the intensity that I experimented with before, people became afraid. I think you know what Iím talking about with different individuals.

ELIAS: Quite! Not necessarily fearful, but there has been an expression of apprehension with some individuals, and also there has been objective misinterpretations. (Chuckling) This is...

TOM: And also with the objective, thereís also that duplicity of placing somebody on a pedestal at times too, it seems. Some people have a tendency to do that because of the centuries that weíve done that.

ELIAS: Correct.

TOM: The kings, the wizards, whatever.

ELIAS: Correct, and this also is quite understandable, for these are displays of automatic responses in relation to strongly expressed mass beliefs.

TOM: Right, and some people would like to behead the king. (Elias laughs)

MELINDA: Again! (Laughs with Elias)

TOM: Itís not always good to be king, right? (Elias continues laughing) I should let you ask questions, Melinda.

I have another one about the World War II era. I donít see myself ... Iíll go into this right away, and then let you ask, Melinda.

MELINDA: Take your time.

TOM: Thereís a group that has discovered focuses in the Third Reich. I donít see myself within that group. The focus that I have appears to be outside of that group.

ELIAS: You are correct.

TOM: I connected with Rommel and Patton because theyíre good at military strategy, and thatís something that always interested me. I see myself as just a regular soldier not too high up, on the American side, actually.

ELIAS: Correct.

TOM: It doesnít seem like he survived the war...

ELIAS: You are also correct.

TOM: ...but he had fun. (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Chuckling) At times. Ha ha ha!

MELINDA: (Laughing) Must be a Tumold thing! (Elias laughs)

TOM: I guess, then, Iím not in the group with any of that, since theyíre all ... itís interesting how many people were in Germany that are within the Elias group. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: I have expressed previously that, for the most part, all of the individuals that hold focuses now also have participated in that focus of attention.

TOM: In some manner?

ELIAS: Yes, for these are two expressions of two Source Events, two aspects of Source Events, in a manner of speaking, and they are overlapping in time framework. Individuals that are manifest presently that hold no participation or involvement in that mass event of that second World War do hold at least one focus of attention in that event and participate in it.

TOM: Sometimes I get the impression I have two or three in that time framework.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. But as I have stated, all of the individuals presently manifest do also participate with at least one focus of attention in that event.

TOM: I would like to ask, was Melinda one of the individuals in the group? Are you interested in that, Melinda?

MELINDA: Well, yes. I just visited a Holocaust museum up in D.C. a couple months ago. Iíve always felt that I had a Jewish focus where I was probably thrown in an incinerator somewhere, and I have a certain affinity for that whole culture. But there doesnít seem to be much of an emotional charge around it; it just seems real neutral for me. Itís like, ďOh, okay. Yeah, well, I did that.Ē Iím not mad at anybody that did it, and I might have even been ... no, I was going to say I might have even been on the German side, too, but that just seems to be ... I feel a connection there, but itís not an emotionally charged one.

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: Does that make sense, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes. I may also express to you that one of the motivating factors that individuals are creating in this movement of associating themselves with an identification of another focus within that mass event is to be accomplishing what you have expressed now: to allow more of an opening to self and an acceptance of self in recognition that each focus of attention is creating choices and experiences, and that there is no need to be expressing blame or judgment. For there is an actual recognition that these other focuses are you, are now; and they are Ė you are Ė creating the choices and the reality. Therefore, where be the fault of any other individual? Are you understanding?


ELIAS: In this, you also allow yourselves a fuller recognition of you as essence, not merely as a part of essence, identifying yourselves as an individual focus of attention, but that you are all of essence, and you are creating experiences in an exploration of what you may be creating and discovering in this physical dimension. This allows you less of an emotional communication, for it is unnecessary for you to be creating a communication through emotion, for you already know.


TOM: It seems too that as this shift accelerates, as we become more aware of ourselves ... how do I express this? All of these focuses that are us, we can move in and out of these experiences. I donít know how to express this, but it occurs that we will encompass all of our focuses as the shift accelerates. Am I making any sense with this?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. Although I may express to you, as I have expressed previously, you also shall continue to create a specific identity in relation to your choice to continue in the design of this physical dimension incorporating linear time.

MELINDA: Oh boy, that sounds like a mouthful! (Elias chuckles) I get this feeling that thereís about a million hidden statements in there. (Elias laughs) Weíll look back on this and say, ďElias was telling us this all along, and we just werenít at a point where we could hear it.Ē (Elias chuckles)

TOM: Itís exciting.

ELIAS: Quite! You are in actuality creating a tremendous opening to new explorations and new freedoms within this physical dimension.

MELINDA: It sounds as if weíre almost going to be experiencing time and space in a different manner.

ELIAS: You are already experiencing time and space in a different manner. You are already bending time. You are already altering your experience and your perception of space.

MELINDA: Well, Iím wondering if that has to do ... I was also in Pompeii in December. Iíve always felt very, very, very strong ties to the area, so I assume I have if not one focus there but probably several. It was almost a visceral gut feeling when I was standing on the street in Pompeii, that if I could just look a tiny bit differently, I could see both the time periods.

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: And I felt it physically! I donít know if thatís what you were talking about or not. I mean, I couldnít do it. I was mad Ė I didnít quite get there! (Elias chuckles) Was that sort of what youíre talking about?

ELIAS: Partially. Yes, you are allowing yourselves more of an openness to your abilities to be manipulating time in many different manners. But I am also expressing to you that you are, in actuality, already altering your expression of time, your perception of time, your CREATION of time. You are measuring time in the same manner that you have created previously, but your experience of it is quite different.

TOM: And it will be that way with space also.


TOM: I donít know if Iím viewing this dimension, but I see being able to move through space the same way we project in consciousness now. Similar, not quite...

ELIAS: Correct. You also shall allow yourself physical movement through space, so to speak; but I may express to you that your perception of movement and your perception of space itself is reconfiguring that reality and your experience with it.

I have expressed previously, and I shall express again quite literally, your perception does create actual physical reality. It creates the actual construct of matter, of space, of time, of all that you experience within this physical dimension. This is all created by your perception, and as you alter your perception, you also actually alter your physical creations. You reconfigure the energy, the links of consciousness, and how they move together to be creating of your physical dimension, your physical reality.

In this, as I have stated, you have already begun reconfiguring your expression of time and space, and you allow yourselves objective glimpses already of how you are altering your perception of space. And you experience daily your alteration of time; you have accelerated time. You continue to measure the expression of time, but you also increase or accelerate its movement. (Chuckles)

TOM: So the hands are going to fall off our clocks as we accelerate this movement? At times we manipulate ... we are learning to manipulate time; we accelerate it, slow it.

ELIAS: You are correct. Although, generally speaking, what you have collectively chosen is to be continuing to accelerate time, and allowing yourselves the exploration and discovery of how you may be creating movement within the acceleration of time.

For a time framework, in a manner of speaking, many individuals within your physical dimension were experiencing a noticing [of] this acceleration of time, and in their experience, not adjusting their movement with their acceleration of time, expressed that they did not incorporate enough time to be accomplishing what they wished to be accomplishing in any particular time framework of a day or a week or a month.

Now you have manipulated your individual expressions of movement, and have, in a manner of speaking, synchronized your expression of energy with your choice of acceleration of time. Therefore, they fit together more harmoniously.

TOM: Iíve noticed that. I was one of the individuals assessing not having enough time.

ELIAS: Correct, and now you do. (Laughs)

MELINDA: Okay, Tom Ė one size fits all, huh? (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: It is not that you have not incorporated enough time, but merely that you reconfigure your own energy expressions and your own movement to be fitting into the new design of time.

TOM: Right.

MELINDA: Weíre altering our own energy.

ELIAS: Correct...


ELIAS: ...and its expression. This also be the reason that many individuals in this present time framework are recognizing that many of their tried-and-true methods that they have incorporated in their movements previously are no longer effective, for you have altered already your actual physical reality. Therefore many of your expressions that you incorporated previously, or your movements, do not fit in the configuration of your reality now.

MELINDA: Well, this must be something that we do fairly seamlessly, though.

ELIAS: You are correct. It is not requiring of objective concentration and thought processes. You incorporate a thought process in relation to your noticing in identifying aspects of your reality that do NOT fit or that are NOT moving in harmony or that are not accomplishing what you expect to be accomplished. Are you understanding?


TOM: And we can create stress if we expect to accomplish and we are not?


MELINDA: Thatís where the conflict comes from.

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: For no reason, a question is coming to mind. I donít know why this is associated with our topic, but I was noticing the mass appeal of all of the ďHarry PotterĒ books. (Elias smiles and nods) They seem to introduce a lot of concepts that people are really drawn to, both adults and children. I was wondering if you might be able to comment on why these books, from a shift standpoint, are appealing to so many people.

ELIAS: It is the focus upon the individual and the individualís abilities, which is the expression of this shift: the recognition of individual expression, not dictates of outside influences; the appreciation of ability and the individualís expression of self-direction; and the magic which is expressed in the wonderment of your own being.

TOM: Iím noticing something in the interaction here, different energies that ... can you explain that? You know what Iím thinking subjectively here.

ELIAS: What is your identification?

TOM: Iím feeling different influxes from different essences.

ELIAS: And your impression?

TOM: Different aspects of information coming from different, so to speak, sources, and that itís all the same source, but different essences contributing.

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, what you are allowing yourself to be noticing is the lack separation and the interconnectedness of essences as consciousness, and that you both are equally as interconnected with all of these essences as any essence that is non-physically expressed.

TOM: Itís like a total mergence here.

ELIAS: Correct. It is your allowance of yourself to be objectively aware and understanding of this lack of separation and this expression of interconnectedness.

TOM: Intense energy, feels like.

MELINDA: This session feels a little bit different to me for some reason.

TOM: Weíre all merging.

MELINDA: Trinity.

ELIAS: And beyond! (Laughs)

TOM: The other night, I kept seeing ďbeyondĒ in my translation and objective imagery, but when you move beyond that objective imagery, thereís really no words to explain it, that I know of. I know you have! (Laughs)

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, that your physical languages are quite limiting, and there are expressions and experiences of consciousness that may incorporate great difficulty in being translated within your language, and in some experiences, I may express to you genuinely, there is no translation that may be expressed within your language. But...

TOM: But maybe within our imagery, I think.

ELIAS: It matters not that you may not be communicating through the avenue of language in relation to what you offer to yourself in experience and knowing. For you may be communicating those identifications through other avenues of communication, and other individuals shall hold an understanding.

TOM: I started thinking of the little tree, the sapling, when you were saying that. (Laughs) I donít know why.

ELIAS: Quite.

TOM: Itís like that.

ELIAS: Yes. You need not be offering language or verbal communication at times, and you may continue to incorporate an efficient communication.

TOM: (To Melinda) Well, how do you feel now?

MELINDA: What do you mean?

TOM: In this mergence.

MELINDA: Oh, thereís a part that feels very natural. I mean, I think you and I do that fairly easily. But I feel ... I donít know, I keep getting an image of like a triangle, an electrical hook-up or something between you, me, and Elias. Itís kind of cool. (Elias chuckles) And I do feel the energy that Elias is talking about. Like you said, Tom, itís hard to find words for. But thatís okay.

ELIAS: And you have already communicated to each other and understood, and you have already communicated to me, and I to you, and incorporate the understanding. (Elias chuckles)

TOM: Efficient we all are!

MELINDA: What good little essences we are! (Elias laughs)

I have a question about a dream that I had last week. Do we have time for that?

ELIAS: Very well.

MELINDA: I had a series of dreams, where in each dream the energy was different. They were very clear; they were very vivid. There was a dream where I lived in a church, and there was a sequence in the dream where people came and left gifts at the church. Then everybody ... there were a lot of elements in the dream that began singing. I was just wondering, why would energy around this dream be different? I mean, what was it about this series of dreams, what was going on subjectively with that?

ELIAS: First of all, offer to myself your impression.

MELINDA: I think it had to do with this confirmation of self that Iíve been going through in my waking life, where I was realizing more of who I really am as opposed to who I thought I needed to be to get the approval of others. The song in the dream was ďAmazing Grace,Ē which I thought was really kind of cool, and that brought me back to my own grace, if you will.

ELIAS: And I may acknowledge you in your interpretation, and I may express to you that your recognition of a different type of energy or a different experience or feel of energy in relation to this dream activity is an allowance of yourself to be experiencing becoming familiar with aspects of your own energy as essence that are not familiar to you objectively yet. In a manner of speaking, you are offering yourself an introduction to yourself in different expressions of your own energy.

There are many, many expressions of energy that every individual incorporates within your physical dimension, and there are many of your own energies that you have not allowed yourselves to objectively recognize or objectively experience; and as you continue moving through layers of yourself and you allow yourself more of a clarity in viewing your genuine identity, you also present yourself with new expressions of energy that are unfamiliar to you. They are aspects of yourself that you are discovering and allowing yourself to be objectively incorporating, which offers you much more of a fullness, a richness, of your own appreciation of you.

MELINDA: That makes a lot of sense. And it also makes sense that I do it in a dream state first, just to let myself get used to it. (Elias laughs) Iím a little more open in the dream state sometimes than I am in my waking life.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Ah! But you...

MELINDA: Me, hard-headed? (Laughs)

ELIAS: are offering yourself much more of an expression of freedom objectively within your waking state. Ha ha ha!

MELINDA: (Pause) I have just a couple of questions about orientation, but thatís kind of mundane stuff. Tom, if you have anything else?

TOM: No, I havenít.

MELINDA: Okay, Elias, Iíve been trying to figure out the orientations of my family. Would you mind giving me some feedback on that, please?

ELIAS: Offer your impressions.

MELINDA: I think my dad is soft. (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: I think my sister is common.

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: I think my mother is common.

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: My friend Matthew, I canít tell if heís soft or common.

ELIAS: Common.

MELINDA: Heís common, okay. My nephew, I think, is common.

ELIAS: Correct.

MELINDA: And I think my niece ... umm, no, she may be soft.

ELIAS: Common.

MELINDA: That was it. Thank you very much!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

TOM: I have one question Iíd like to ask. Chad Ė my impression is heís Sumafi aligned with Tumold, and soft.

ELIAS: Families correct, orientation common.

TOM: Common? Okay, thatís why heís more concerned about what everybody thinks than I am. (Elias laughs) I suppose weíve run through our time here, although we could stay merged like this for infinity, which we are! (Elias laughs)

MELINDA: (Laughs) Well, Elias, I really enjoyed this today. Thank you very much. Itís always a pleasure to talk with you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. As always, I offer tremendous affection to you both, and anticipate our further objective interactions.

I offer to you each tremendous encouragement in your present explorations and movement. The unfamiliar may be, in actuality, quite exciting and exhilarating, and to you each I offer my encouragement in your adventure into it. (Chuckles)

MELINDA: Thank you.

ELIAS: To you both, my dear friends, au revoir.

BOTH: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 12:24 PM.

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