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Tuesday, April 24, 2001

<  Session 827 (Private/Phone)  >



Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra).

Elias arrives at 10:29 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! Nice to talk to you again!

ELIAS: Ha ha! And what adventures are you creating presently?

FRANK: Ah! Well, you know I always cook up something good for you...

ELIAS: Ha ha! Quite!

FRANK: ...for your entertainment. But maybe Iíll wait a little while to tell you about that. (Elias laughs) How would that be?

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: I guess where Iíd like to start is by asking you about something that lately ... I started to read a book by Jane Roberts called The ďUnknownĒ Reality. Thereíre two volumes, and I actually bought these books, oh, I donít know, maybe 20 years ago and started to read them but they never really clicked for me. For some reason, it just didnít make a lot of sense to me, or whatever. But lately Iíve started to reread them, and it is making more sense. So I guess the question Iíve got for you is, is this sort of a reflection of the progress Iíve made in terms of understanding self and that sort of thing?

ELIAS: Yes, and allowing yourself to be assimilating information Ė the concepts that have been set forth, in a manner of speaking, by this essence of Seth we have discussed also, and as you have allowed yourself to be widening your awareness and assimilating information, you now may view the information in these books and hold a greater objective understanding of what is being expressed.

FRANK: Okay, thatís what I thought. I just thought I would confirm that with you.

So letís talk a little bit about some of whatís in there. Iím on a section where he talks a lot about probabilities. Iíll try to explain as well as I understand this, but essentially, in actuality, at any moment in time there are many, many, many probabilities. Like for example for my day today, there are many probabilities for how that could go, and in actuality all of these probabilities sort of occur. What I do, as I walk through this adventure, as you term it, is to select from the probabilities that I want to have occur or at least recognize maybe in my experience. But then in fact all these other probabilities also occur, in that I can in some sense select from any of them at any time.

ELIAS: Let me clarify. Be remembering that the intent of that essence was expressed differently than the intent of this essence, and in this, many of the concepts that were, in a manner of speaking, introduced by that essence were expressed in a manner of simplicity which allowed for a beginning point, so to speak, of concepts being expressed to individuals within your physical dimension.

Now; [be] recognizing that, and recognizing that the intent of that essence was to merely be introducing what you may term to be new information or information in a new manner, and also, in a manner of speaking, to be jogging the movement of individuals within your physical dimension in relation to this shift in consciousness, but not necessarily incorporating what may be viewed as complete accuracy in the description of many concepts, for this was not the point in that time framework. It was merely an introduction, a type of movement in revolutionizing the thought processes and the direction of objective movement and understanding within that particular time framework.

Now; as you all have moved further, so to speak, into the action of this shift in consciousness, you have moved into other layers of this shift and therefore hold a greater objective understanding of the concepts that have been offered previously.

This explanation of probabilities is elementary. It serves its purpose in its given time framework, so to speak, to allow an objective beginning understanding of the subject matter of probabilities in themselves. In actuality, all probabilities are actualized continuously, but the probabilities do not lie before you, and you do not choose from them which probability you shall insert into your objective officially accepted reality. In actuality, the movement is what may be viewed as the reverse.

You create a probability in the moment, and in that choice to be creating a particular probability, all other probabilities that may have been associated in any form with the probability that you created shall automatically thusly be created within consciousness, within other layers of consciousness, in probable realities. Are you understanding?

FRANK: I think so. If you could go on, and then Iíll come back with my questions.

ELIAS: Very well. In this, you offer the example of your day, this day, and as you move through the time framework of your day, you express the identification of what has been offered in explanation by that essence of Seth, which expresses that as you move through your day you are choosing from probabilities that already exist and are before you, and as you choose one in the midst of countless, all of the others are also actualized. This is the point of distortion, in a manner of speaking.

It has been purposefully offered as information as an introduction to the concept of probabilities, and in being offered as an introduction, it has accomplished what it was intended to accomplish. But in terms of actual specific identification and defining the actual creation of probabilities, it is not accurate in its description.

For in actuality, there are no probabilities floating through space in front of you, and you do not choose a probability as you might choose an object within a market and not choose all of the other objects within the market. (Frank chuckles) This suggests that there are things which you label as probabilities Ė or actions that you label as probabilities Ė that are all existing already, and you are merely selecting one of them.

FRANK: Well, let me stop you for a second, because actually I understand what youíre saying, and I think maybe I didnít explain it very well in the first place.

I guess the way I really view it is rather than calling them probabilities, I donít know why theyíre not called possibilities. The way Iíve always seen it is that there are an infinite number of possibilities at any one point in time, and thereís one of these possibilities that I sort of recognize as ďthis is my official realityĒ; but in fact all of these other things that are possible could happen, and do somehow happen in some probable reality. Is that a better way of ... or more close to accuracy?

ELIAS: Yes, for the probability is the actual creation of the choice in the moment.

Now; you may allow yourself to view many different choices, and this, prior to any choice or even subsequent to any choice, may be viewed and explained as the possibilities. The probability is what you create in an actual moment, which, in a manner of speaking, creates an automatic domino effect, or chain reaction, which sets into motion countless other probabilities.

FRANK: Makes them more likely?

ELIAS: No, it creates them all.

FRANK: Creates them, okay. It creates them in what I recognize as the past and the future? But then as I get to the future point, what I recognize as future points, I can in fact select different probabilities?

ELIAS: It does not necessarily create them in relation to what you view as past and future, although it may. But in actuality, the choice of any probability creates all of the probabilities in association with your one choice in all of its variations in the now. Therefore, at times it may appear to you that any chosen probability may be affecting of what you view as future and past.

Where you may encounter some challenge in the thought process concerning future and past in relation to probabilities is in creating an association that if you are creating a probability presently, that that shall definitely be affecting of what may be created futurely, and this is not necessarily the situation. For as you recognize, you may be creating that type of movement, but you also hold the free will and the ability to be altering any of your probabilities within any moment, and therefore entirely changing the direction of what you view as your movement in relation to the future.

FRANK: Well, thatís an interesting subject. Letís also talk about something else.

Youíve told me and others many times that the key thing is perception, that beliefs are important and beliefs affect perception, but that ultimately ... so the key to everything is perception. The question I have for you is Iím not sure I understand the difference between perception and belief. I mean, it seems to me that if I have a certain set of beliefs that those in fact ... that in other words, if I believe Iím a good dancer, well then thatís my perception. If I believe Iím bad at mathematics, then isnít that my perception? Whatís the difference?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, you are correct that your beliefs are very strongly influencing of your perception Ė but they are not your perception. For at times, you may be creating some element of your reality which in actuality is contrary to your beliefs.

FRANK: Can you give me an example?

ELIAS: There are many factors, so to speak, of yourself that are in actuality influencing of your perception, not merely your beliefs. Were your beliefs the only influence upon the mechanism of your perception, you would always create what you expect, you would always create merely what you believe, and you would not create some aspects of surprise within your reality.

Your perception is not your beliefs. Your beliefs are an influence in relation to your perception.

Now; your perception is in actuality a type of mechanism, a translating mechanism. It is an aspect of your consciousness in objective workings, so to speak, within your physical manifestation. It is a type of projection mechanism. It is not, in actuality, associated directly with any of your physical aspects of your body, but it is a type of mechanism of objective consciousness that projects outwardly all of your reality. Therefore, the information that is received by all of your avenues of communication in your manifestation are assimilated, in a manner of speaking, by this mechanism, and it creates a configuration of energy in relation to all of the associations that are offered to it; and in that action, this mechanism forms an image and projects that image outwardly.

Now; you may be creating an image through your perception which is not necessarily entirely influenced precisely by your beliefs. This is not to say that some of your beliefs are not influencing for the most part Ė almost always Ė in all that you create throughout your perception. But be remembering, you do not occupy this physical dimension singularly. You are not walking about your planet alone. There are many, many, many other essences which also manifest and focus attentions in this physical dimension, and you are all interactive with each other, and therefore that also creates an influence in relation to your perception.

The energy projected by other individuals may not be in alignment with YOUR particular beliefs, but in the reception of other individualsí energy, you may allow your perception to receive that energy and not reconfigure it with the distortions of your own beliefs. You may accept the expression of another individual, create your projection of the situation through your perception, and you may allow that projection to be expressed quite closely to its original form, so to speak, which was projected by the other individual.

Therefore, I may express to you, your beliefs are not always the determining factor of what you shall actually create. They may be almost always influencing, but they may not necessarily be a determining or entirely directing factor of what shall direct your perception in a particular moment.

Even without a direct interaction of another individual, you may at times create a perception which is more directly influenced by other communications than beliefs. This is not to say that there shall not be an influence of your beliefs in whatever you are projecting within your perception; but they may be, at times, recessive to other communications.

FRANK: Well, that seems pretty significant. So, the question I have is, what are the ramifications of this in terms of my desire Ė and I think the desire of most of the people engaging these sessions Ė to consciously create their reality and have more control over what happens in their life? Because it sounds as if to a slight degree weíre moving away from the concepts of free will. Iím saying that wrong, because I think what youíre saying is if I want, I can have total control over my reality, but I need not if I allow these other communications to influence my perception. Is that right?

ELIAS: First of all, I may express to you quite definitely that what you create within your reality is in actuality not associated with control or a lack of control at all. What you are attempting to be expressing is an objective ability to intentionally create what you want within your reality.

FRANK: Thatís correct, yes.

ELIAS: Now; in this, I express to you and to all other individuals, the most important and significant movement in allowing yourself to be accomplishing that action is to be incorporating a genuine trust and acceptance of self. These two expressions, these two aspects of your reality, are the MOST significant movements that you may be incorporating.

For, you are not moving into any expression of denying your free will. In actuality, you limit your free will presently much more than you shall as you widen your awareness and as you allow yourselves to genuinely move into an expression of trust and acceptance, for in these expressions you need not offer yourself proofs any longer and therefore you allow yourself much more of an ease in movement, and you allow yourselves to genuinely direct what you create intentionally, objectively, even continuing to hold your beliefs.

You see, my friend, presently, for the most part, you all continue to view your belief systems as the enemy and that which should be eliminated. (Frank chuckles) For you view your beliefs to be the strangling hold of some ďthingĒ upon yourselves which does not allow you to create what you want within your reality; and in actuality, it is not your beliefs that restrict you, it is your association with your beliefs that restricts you, your automatic responses to them, your blindness to them, that restricts you. You may be creating your reality objectively, intentionally, allowing yourself to create all that you want within your physical reality, and you may accomplish this quite in harmony with your existing belief systems.

FRANK: Okay. You know, for the first time this whole concept is starting to make a lot of sense to me, the way youíve just explained it.

ELIAS: And also in relation to your own movement.

FRANK: That was going to be the next thing I was going to mention to you. As you know, or I assume you know, things seem to be moving quite well for me in a lot of different areas, and so I presume that this is a continuance of my trust in self, probably more than anything else.

ELIAS: Yes, and less of an expression of doubt of your ability. And as you continue creating this movement, you also provide yourself with objective evidence, or temporarily your proofs, to reinforce your movement in your own expression of trust of yourself. This is the manner in which you validate yourself and strengthen your expression of trust and acceptance of yourself.

FRANK: I must say thank you to you at this point. Because really, these sessions have been so helpful in terms of that. I think back to a couple of months ago when I was sort of concerned as to whether or not the business that Iíve engaged in over that last year would even continue. I thought back to what you said to me about how no one can ever terminate you unless you allow it or create it or whatever. That, along with other things, was very helpful to me.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

FRANK: This is great. This is very helpful. Speaking about me specifically now, in terms of continuing the development of trust and acceptance, do you have any particular advice at this point?

ELIAS: I shall reiterate my suggestion to you that you merely continue to be noticing AND continue to pay attention, not singularly to that which you create and choose in the moment, but to be paying attention to self in the now also. This shall be, in a manner of speaking, your greatest advantage in your movement in creating intentionally what you want.

For, this offers you the opportunity to view the moments in which you may be expressing automatic associations or responses, that you may thusly choose a different expression. Many times you and other individuals may be not paying attention and creating an automatic response in a particular situation, and subsequently recognize that that was not necessarily what you wished to be creating. Correct?


ELIAS: Now; in these types of situations, you become slightly discouraged, expressing to yourself the thought process and the automatic association that you have already created this expression; it may not be undone. Not true!

I may express to you, it matters not that you may be viewing an automatic response after you have created it, in your terms. For once you recognize what you are expressing, once you allow yourself to be noticing of your automatic responses, you also may allow yourself new expressions of choice.

FRANK: Right. Iím hard on myself when Ė well, ďhard on myselfĒ I guess is the right term Ė when I realize later.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Now, one last thing before we get off this subject. Just shortly ago you said donít just pay attention to what Iím creating but to self also. I am getting better at noticing, ďHey, Iím creating this.Ē But as you say, Iím not thinking about myself.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. I am not expressing that you be paying attention to what you are creating. You already have allowed yourself practice in that subject matter, and you are becoming proficient at that action. What I am expressing to you is to be also paying attention to self in what you are creating.

You express you are becoming quite familiar with viewing your reality and expressing to yourself, ďAh yes, I am creating this action.Ē But what other information are you expressing in that moment? You are viewing the objective outward expression, but you are not paying attention to what else you are expressing inwardly in communication, which offers you a richer experience in all that you are creating, a greater objective understanding of what you are creating in the now, and also expands your freedom in your choices concerning what you are creating.

FRANK: Thatís the next thing for me to work on here. (Elias chuckles)

Next, when we spoke last time, I told you about the two businesses I have, and how one was starting to do pretty well and the other one was doing not quite as well. Since our last talk, things have improved on both fronts. But with regards to the second business, you had expressed to me that a key to being more successful was to be more colorful, as you termed it. I thought about that somewhat, and was able to express that objectively to a slight degree in a very objective manner. But I guess at this point I would like to get maybe a little elaboration from you on exactly what you meant by that, and how I do that.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, in your physical terms, you view the business to be serious. This is a manner in which you create that which you term to be your livelihood. Correct?


ELIAS: Therefore, you place a tremendous expression of dependence upon the creation of these businesses.

Now; in the seriousness of your expression of business, you view that seriousness as what you associate with professionalism. But in the incorporation of more of an expression of colorfulness and playfulness in relation to the individuals that you are interactive with, you may allow an introduction of much more of your own expression of creativity in this business, and in allowing for more of your own expression of freedom, you also allow yourself to draw more of what you want to yourself, for you create it and you create it much more easily.

In the professional seriousness, you also create a rigidness, and in that rigidness, you create much more of an expression of the black and white. This is the reason that I chose the expression of colorfulness in relation to what you are creating.

FRANK: (Laughs) Okay, I think I understand better now. As you know, thatís sort of difficult for me to do, because at this point itís hard even to conceptualize it. But I suppose a start would be maybe to use my imagination on how to go about this. Would that be advisable?

ELIAS: I may be quite encouraging of you in that expression, yes.

FRANK: Next, I would like to talk to you about my baseball team which, as you recall, we discussed that subject maybe ten months ago. Back then what you advised me to do is to refrain from engaging in comparison. You talked about comparison and competition, and how that could be detrimental to just the whole experience and also the results. So Iím trying to be less comparative and competitive with my new team for this year, but again Iíd like any thoughts or comments you have in that regard.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, this once again is an opportunity for you to incorporate movement in widening your awareness, an actual outward expression and projection of your perception, and to be, in your terms, successfully creating what you want through the implementation of actual acceptance and that which you term to be encouragement.

Now; as you recall, you are correct that I have expressed to you that you allow yourself to pay attention to these two expressions of comparison and competition. For in the movement of this shift, these two expressions are in actuality contrary to what you are creating within this shift in consciousness. And as you do participate in this wave in duplicity, you also offer yourself the opportunity to address to these expressions of competition and comparison.

One moment. (Coughs for 37 seconds) Continuing.

Now; in this, as you allow yourself to turn your perception, recognizing that competition and comparison are not necessary as an incorporation of expression within your game, and that you may accomplish what you want to be accomplishing in relation to this game, you may allow yourself to be creating it differently, and you may be influencing of the playing of this game with its participants through the projection of YOUR perception in expressing the supportiveness and the encouragement of each of the players in acknowledgment of their genuine abilities in an expression of camaraderie in the playing of the game.

I may also express to you, in actuality this type of interaction may be creating of the outcome of your want, in your terms, more easily than the expressions of competition and comparison. For in this movement of comparison and competition, you are expressing an energy of discounting of the players, so to speak. You are continuing to be pushing energy that expresses to the players that they are not the best yet, but that they need to be striving to be the best, which IS a discounting of them.

Whereas, as you create movement within your perception and you allow yourself the recognition that the players are already the best, you shall express an energy outwardly which acknowledges their abilities and therefore allows for a genuine expression of their abilities. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes. I think what youíre saying is that Iím going to affect their perception.

ELIAS: No. You are affecting of your OWN perception, which projects a different energy...

FRANK: That affects their perception?

ELIAS: ...that shall be received and shall be influencing. You are not altering their perception but it shall be influencing, and in this shall be encouraging and therefore also received and not reconfigured by each of them.

Be remembering of our description of the influence of perception. It moves the same in the incorporation of energy that you ALL receive, not merely you individually. Therefore, in the same manner that you may be receiving energy projected by another individual which is projected by their perception, you may receive that energy and not reconfigure it, and project your perception very closely associated with the energy which was originally projected by another individual. You also create this action of projecting an energy through your perception, which is received by other individuals.

FRANK: Right, thatís what I was talking about.


FRANK: Okay. Let me just ask you about two things, quickly, because I know that Maryís not feeling well. First quick question: my daughter, Lizella, has a problem with her shins and her ankles that seems to relate to her activities in track and field. We talked about this a little bit a few months ago, but Iím just wondering if you could sort of readdress that, what the causes of that are.

ELIAS: You are correct; we have discussed this subject matter previously. In this, I may express to you once again in this time framework, the individual is pushing her energy, which creates a tension which also manifests in a physical affectingness within her body consciousness. This is created through her own expectations of self and of her movement, forcing energy in relation to her association with perfectionism.

FRANK: She has asked me for advice on this, and I basically told her what you just said. Is there any other way I can help her on this?

ELIAS: You may express the suggestion that she genuinely allow herself to be relaxing her energy physically and her energy field, and examining her expectations of herself and how she is forcing that energy in a continuous striving for better. And as she allows herself to be accepting and relaxing, she may be creating less of a tension within her physical body and muscles and even bones, and this may allow her more of a freedom to be creating her physical expressions.

The individual has created an expression of seriousness, in similar manner to yourself. (Frank chuckles) And in this, as she may be reconstructing her perception and incorporating more of a perception of fun rather than the seriousness and expectations, she may be creating less of a physical affectingness.

FRANK: And probably achieve her goals.

ELIAS: Correct!

FRANK: Thatís pretty much what Iíve told her. After that, I donít know. I guess itís up to her.

ELIAS: Quite. (Chuckling)

FRANK: Okay, this is the last thing here that I thought I would tell you about. Two times in the last week I found myself with no money in my wallet for various different reasons. It was sort of a total surprise to me. And then just the other day, I found a rather significant amount of money that I didnít know I had sort of hiding in my checkbook. Iím just curious to know, what were the causes of that? I assume these are related, and if so, what were the causes?

ELIAS: You are correct. In actuality, these are your individual creations, and in this you are expressing imagery to yourself in relation to the creation of money...

FRANK: Ah, thatís what I thought you would say.

ELIAS: ...and allowing yourself more of an objective understanding concerning the actual lack of significance that the money itself holds.

FRANK: Right. Because it was interesting, in both cases where I found I suddenly didnít have money, it didnít matter.

ELIAS: Correct. This I may be acknowledging of you in, my friend, for this is a movement that you are creating which offers you a much greater expression of freedom. For as you allow yourself to be directing and dictating to yourself what you shall create, not allowing yourself to be dictated to by an object, you offer yourself a much greater freedom in how you may manipulate your energy to be creating of this object if you are so choosing, but not being dictated to through the manifestation of it itself.

FRANK: Right, and thatís kind of how I took it. Iím glad to know I had that one pegged right. Well, weíre making great progress here!

ELIAS: And I may express great congratulations to you, my friend!

FRANK: Well, thank you. (Elias laughs) I much appreciate all your help. I would love to talk more, but I guess our time is up, and I know Maryís not feeling well. So I again just say thank you; I look forward to talking to you again soon.

ELIAS: And I also, my friend. Be remembering: playfulness! Ha ha ha! To you this day, as always in great affection and anticipation, au revoir.

FRANK: Good-bye.

Elias departs at 11:35 AM.

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