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Saturday, May 12, 2001

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“Children of the Shift”

“Sense of Conceptualization”

“Monetary Exchange After the Shift”

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Paul (Xutrah).

Elias arrives at 1:50 PM. (Arrival time is 27 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

PAUL: Good morning!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) How shall we proceed this day?

PAUL: Well, I’m curious as to how you have surprised yourself in the intervening linear time framework since I last spoke with you.

ELIAS: (Chuckles, and scans the ceiling as he speaks) How have I created surprise within myself – interesting question!

(Speaking quite slowly) I have offered myself what may be translated as an element of surprise in discovery of awareness of attention and creation within another layer of consciousness which is expanded from an area of consciousness that I already occupy.

PAUL: Oh, so we could say you’re pushing the envelope?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking! (Chuckles)

PAUL: Interesting. I feel that I’m doing sort of the same thing at the moment as well!

ELIAS: Ah! And how have you offered yourself surprise within your reality?

PAUL: I can be noticing that even when I feel I’m in an area that is undesirable or uncomfortable, I can be gaining something, an element of fun, while I’m in the midst of it.

ELIAS: And this presents quite a revelation to you, does it not?

PAUL: Oh, yes, indeed it does! I find that while I’m in the midst of this distress, the amount of information that I’m presenting to myself is phenomenal.

ELIAS: Quite!

PAUL: The incident that refers to specifically at the moment is an issue between my wife and my daughter that is a presentation of belief systems, the difference between those held by wife and myself and another belief system held by my daughter, and how I adopted the position of my wife’s belief system and presented that to my daughter. Her question to me was, “Well, do you hold the same belief system as your wife?” When I answered “No,” she said, “Why are you adopting the belief system of your wife?” and I had no answer for that.

ELIAS: And have you presented yourself with a response subsequently?

PAUL: Yes, I have!

ELIAS: And what is your identification?

PAUL: It is an identification of the belief system of relationship, that the relationship is an entity outside of myself which must be honored, and that this is not – and I knew this at the moment that I was doing it – it is not honoring my own essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: The thing that was the most interesting was that as my daughter was asking that question, I thought to myself, “Oh my gosh, are all of the kids that are on, so to speak, this side of the shift going to be reacting in this manner?”

ELIAS: Ah, and I may express to you that you may be genuinely viewing that those individuals that you recognize as young are expressing more of an objective awareness of these concepts and more of an objective acceptance of themselves and recognition of beliefs, and shall be more easily naturally directing of themselves and not bending to the direction of others.

PAUL: Which, of course, is in conflict with my belief systems from a certain aspect, although I am recognizing those. But definitely the presentment to myself is that many other people have strongly held belief systems which it behooves me merely to accept.

ELIAS: Correct. I may express to you, this shall be expressed more and more obviously in the younger and younger individuals. For those focuses of attention which are choosing to be manifest in THIS time framework are choosing to be entering into a manifestation – in a manner of speaking, born into a time framework – in which the objective insertion of this shift is occurring. Therefore in compliance of movement with that action, they also are allowing themselves the awareness that you seek out in information. Are you understanding?

PAUL: I’m having a little bit of technical trouble on my end here. I believe what you said was they are more aware of my belief systems than perhaps I am aware of theirs?

ELIAS: They are aware of their beliefs, they are also aware of your beliefs, but they also, in conjunction with the movement of this shift and its objective insertion, allow themselves a clearer understanding naturally of their reality and of themselves. Whereas, you and many other individuals have chosen to be beginning this manifestation of this focus in a time framework in which the movement of the shift was primarily expressed subjectively. You now seek out information that shall be helpful to you in creating the translation and transition into the objective insertion of this shift in consciousness.

These children are less and less and less expressing of that translation and transition, for they need not be creating the transition in their physical focus; they merely allow themselves to be manifest in the time framework in which the shift is already being inserted objectively. Therefore, they do not create the veil between their objective awareness and the information which moves in conjunction with the shift in consciousness. Are you understanding?

PAUL: Yes, I am. It’s actually quite fascinating to watch, when I look at my three-year-old granddaughter to observe how freely she interacts with imaginary play friends and things which we know are not imaginary.

ELIAS: Correct. This is what I am expressing to you. In your physical terms, the younger the individual is presently in their manifestation the more awareness and the less separation and the more objectively obviously expressed principles and movements of this shift in consciousness are exhibited.

PAUL: Are there going to be any currently entering focuses of attention which do not subscribe to the shift in consciousness in objective terms?


PAUL: That just means I have to be on my toes!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I have expressed previously, my friend, and shall reiterate again, individuals shall be experiencing trauma and confusion and conflict in relation to this shift in consciousness.

Now; this subject matter that you present presently is one area which presents tremendous challenge. For you hold, as you are aware, very strong mass beliefs in relation to the roles of family, parent and child. In this expression, the belief is that the parent shall be directing of the child and molding, so to speak, their expressions, their direction, their choices.

You shall begin to view that very small individuals, very young individuals, are already directing of their own choices objectively and in quite definite terms, and are not as willing, so to speak, to allow other individuals to be directing of them.

PAUL: (Laughs) Yes, much to the consternation of my granddaughter’s mother!

ELIAS: Quite!

PAUL: Oh, speaking of which, may I have her family belonging to and alignment? That would be Erin. (Pause)

ELIAS: Belonging to Zuli, aligning with Sumari.

PAUL: I knew that other one. Is she common?


PAUL: Thought so. As long as we’re on this tack here, I have a question from Opan. He wishes to know the family belonging to and aligning with for a person named Denise.

ELIAS: Express the inquiry to Opan to offer his impression.

PAUL: Oh, he did. His impressions are belonging to Sumari and Milumet alignment. (Pause)

ELIAS: Belonging to Sumari, Zuli alignment. (Pause)

PAUL: I seem to be creating a technical difficulty. Is she aligned Milumet?

ELIAS: No, Zuli.

PAUL: Zuli. Okay, very good. Well, shall we forge off into other waters?

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: ...or perhaps not. Another friend of mine, Andy, my impression is that he is belonging to Sumafi, aligned Sumari, and is common.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: We’ll do some easy ones here. It’s my impression that most of my focuses have been male. Can you tell me the number of male/female focuses?

ELIAS: Shall you allow yourself to be investigating first of all?

PAUL: But of course!

ELIAS: Ah! (Chuckling) As you allow yourself to be listening to your impressions and investigating, I shall offer to you subsequently a validation.

PAUL: Thank you very much!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAUL: Thought and emotion aspect: at one point I believe – and this is a broader question – I believe that I was emotionally focused and there was a specific point in this focus that I decided to change that into thought. Did that change actually occur, and does that happen to people?

ELIAS: I shall express to you it is POSSIBLE, for all actions are possible, for they are all choice and they are not absolute. Although, once again, I may express to you that individual focuses do not create this type of alteration, for it is unnecessary.

PAUL: Unnecessary ... oh, because of other focuses experiencing that simultaneously.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: In that case I would say that I’m emotion based.

ELIAS: Correct. As you allow yourself a familiarity with yourself, you begin to allow yourself to drop the veils of separation and recognize that in your reality all of the focuses of attention are expressions of one essence; they are all you. They are all, in a figurative manner of speaking, superimposed upon each other.

Therefore, although you do hold choice and may be creating any expression that you are so choosing, there are some choices that the attention does not change, for there is a recognition that it is unnecessary. For there are many, many attentions, and they are all simultaneously experiencing and creating experiences in counterpart action.

Therefore, some choices – although not absolute – are not engaged by an individual focus of attention, such as the choice of the type of focus or the personality type or the orientation, for there are many other focuses that are simultaneously choosing other expressions within these few differences that influence perception. Are you understanding?

PAUL: Yes, I am. Thank you.

One of my current fascinations is another book, which I believe ... let me rephrase this. Referring to the religious book, I’ve had some impressions along those lines that I may have found a different book than the one you are referring to, and I just want to check this out.

This book that I believe I’ve found has six or perhaps seven chapters associated with it, the first of which was the Judea focus and culminating in the World War II focus. Briefly, the other chapters would be the inception of the Catholic Church, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Reformation. What have I found?

ELIAS: Are you identifying that there may be merely six or seven chapters of this particular book?

PAUL: Yes.

ELIAS: I may express to you that you have allowed yourself an impression of several. I may also express to you that there are more than six or seven chapters of that book.

PAUL: However, are these chapters related to the religious book?


PAUL: Okay, good.

I’ve been reading lately in transcripts about the conceptualization sense – fascinating to me. In the wondrous abandon that we talked about in my very first session, was that my conceptualization sense that I used in that meeting of essence? (Pause)

ELIAS: Partially, but I may express to you more so empathic.

PAUL: Oh, interesting! (Pause)

Opan and I have embarked on a, shall we say, partnered exploration of consciousness on an ad hoc basis. He made a comment to me about how the sense which I believe – I’m not sure what sense it was – that he related my experience of wondrous abandon with the explorations that we’ve participated within so far, one of which I believe was in Regional Area 2. I’m interested to hear what your comments are on that. (Pause)

ELIAS: Offer clarification in relation to your experience (pause) and YOUR translation.

PAUL: Ah! Well, my underlying intent here is the same thing we talked about in my first session, that the experience of meeting essence was extremely powerful, and I wish to repeat that. From that perspective I’m trying to, of course, come up with a method to repeat that experience. I am curious how the sense, which may have been empathic, that I used in that meeting with Opan in Regional Area 2, can be applied to, shall we say, recreating that experience, the initial experience of meeting essence? (Pause)


PAUL: And are you choosing to amplify on that answer?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! (Elias delivers the following two paragraphs at an increasingly slow rate) You may be engaging your empathic sense and engaging your sense of conceptualization, and I may express to you it matters not whether you focus your attention within Regional Area 2 or Regional Area 1 – you may be creating this action, regardless. It is not necessary or required that you are projecting your attention to Regional Area 2 to be accomplishing the action that you desire. You may be creating this in objective terms.

Now; the element of the conceptualization is the movement into the action. Therefore, what you create in relation to the conceptualization is allowing yourself and your awareness to become the action of the subject. (Pause)

One moment. (13-second pause, and Elias appears to access)

(Returns to a normal pace) Very well. In this, initially you allow yourself to engage your empathic sense which creates a mergence, and in this mergence, you move further into the experience by subsequently engaging your sense of conceptualization – becoming the action, becoming the movement.

PAUL: Yes, I know of what you speak.

ELIAS: This is what you are inquiring of, the method of how you may be creating this experience once again.

PAUL: Indeed, and thank you so much.

ELIAS: Now; as I have stated, you may be creating that movement in Regional Area 1. It is not necessary that you be projecting your attention to Regional Area 2 to be accomplishing this action.

PAUL: I understand.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: Thank you very much!

ELIAS: You are welcome.

PAUL: In my interactions with Opan, there seems to be an element of translation which isn’t occurring. I chalk that up to the fact that I am of common focus, or common orientation, and he is of religious. First, is that correct, and second, could you amplify a little bit on religious focus, what the qualities are, information which would help me to objectively translate between the other viewpoint and my own?

ELIAS: First of all, I may express to you that you are confusing focus type with orientation.

PAUL: Well, that doesn’t surprise me!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) For, yourself and Opan hold the same orientation. Your personality type in the focus expression is different, for you express emotional focus. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you speak the same language but your process of assimilation may be different.

PAUL: Is that governed by ... let me rethink this for a moment. (Pause) I’m not sure what question I want to ask!

ELIAS: I may express to you, this particular factor, so to speak, is not creating a block or an obstruction of your communication.

Let me express to you also, in the identification of these four expressions of focuses, the thought and the political may be more closely associated; the religious and the emotional may be more closely associated.

Now; this is not to say that you may not allow yourselves interaction without an understanding of the other individuals. These factors are influencing of your perceptions, but what I am expressing is an individual that is emotionally focused may experience more confusion or challenge interacting with an individual that is political or thought focused than they shall with an individual that is religiously focused or with another emotionally focused individual.

PAUL: So if I’m hearing you correctly, the emotional/religious focus is not necessarily the major factor influencing my lack of understanding of him?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Okay, I shall be investigating! (Elias chuckles)

Oh, this is a fun one. I have the impression that the artist Ferdinand Bol is a focus of my essence. Can you confirm that please? (Pause)

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is not a focus of attention of your essence, but you do participate as an observing essence.

PAUL: Interesting! Very interesting. There is a painting which he did of a young man with a sword. I have the strong impression that that may a focus of attention of the essence of Elias. Is that correct? (Pause)

ELIAS: In inspiration and subject matter, yes.

PAUL: Okay, and there was also a painting that I’m quite sure was a focus of Yarr’s. Is that correct? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: I’m not sure that I have enough objective information right at the moment about all of my focuses of attention of my essence, but the word that popped into my head which would be the underlying intent of my essence would be that of “facilitator.” Does that ... I mean, that rings true to me. (Laughs) Would that be a good term to use?

ELIAS: And you are attempting to be identifying the theme?

PAUL: Yes!


PAUL: It certainly sheds a lot of light on why I feel the way that I do about so many things. It’s quite interesting to me. Little bits and pieces ... I feel like I am weaving the tapestry of my existence by ferreting out all of the little bits of information. (Elias chuckles)

I have a calico cat right at the moment, her name is Phantom, and I had the impression that this bit of energy known as my cat was also with me in a different focus as an Eskimo, only reconfigured as a dog. Is that true?


PAUL: And also I had the impression that the name of this dog was ... the translation would be Ghost, and I got some sort of a clicking name associated with that. What was that name?

ELIAS: Ah, you may be discovering this, my friend – quite tricky! Ha ha ha ha!

PAUL: Well, you can’t blame me for trying, right? (Elias laughs)

Let’s see here. Last weekend, Olivia, Lawrence, and I were engaging in a conversation about, or should I say speculation on the nature of what it will be like post-shift with a different means of monetary exchange, or perhaps I shouldn’t even say monetary exchange because we were speculating on ways that things could be shared without necessarily having a physical entity of money.

Some of the ideas that popped into my head were that of a different means of exchanging energy in an objective manner with each other that is somewhat like the barter system, that I do what I like to do with the realization that it benefits all but not necessarily directly. The thing that we couldn’t get past was how this is all tallied. Olivia suggested that it’s all done from a subjective level, but being an objectively focused individual at the moment, I have trouble understanding that. I was wondering if you would comment a little bit on perhaps how this new way of doing things will be structured post-shift.

ELIAS: And express to myself your assessment of why you shall need to be tallying.

PAUL: If I’m following your question correctly, if we are more in tune, if we have dropped the veil more and we are more in tune with subjective awareness, then we would know that when another focus of essence does what they want to do because they enjoy doing it and that it provides, shall we say, objective value to everyone else, then it’s a matter of trust. All I have to do – ALL I have to do; yeah, right! – is trust that it will work out the way it’s supposed to in the end. Am I on the right track here?

ELIAS: You are, as you express within your physical focus, becoming warmer! (Chuckling, and Paul laughs) I may express to you...

PAUL: (Laughing) Are you inclined to express in this Easter egg hunt a direction that I may be turning?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, you continue to move your speculation of this subject matter in alignment with the familiarity of exchange. The principle of exchange in itself is altering, and in a manner of speaking, to a great extent being discarded. The association of exchange in relation to how you create it now shall be quite different, for you shall redefine this expression of exchange.

Now; your direction of speculation in association with bartering is closer, in a manner of speaking, to the identification of this movement. But I shall also express to you that even this association of bartering is an actual movement of continued exchange, where there is an expectation of contribution.

PAUL: Yes, I think that’s what I was trying to allude to, that the underlying expectation there is that everybody contributes and that’s what makes the system go. What I was trying to convey was my impression that that expectation will be lessened, because I understand that everybody in this physical focus is doing what they are doing because that’s what they want to do.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: It’s a matter of individual value fulfillment, as opposed to a collective value.

ELIAS: Correct, and in that the expectation is dropped, for it is no longer a matter of contribution and support.

PAUL: Support of an individual by a collective.

ELIAS: Or support of a collective by individuals. It matters not. You shall allow yourselves the recognition of no ownership.

PAUL: That gets into the recognition of no separation.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Because if I realize – and it’s only words right now, I understand that – if I realize that all is one, then the idea of individual ownership kind of goes away.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Fascinating. The capitalists are going to be in an uproar over this one! (Elias laughs) I enjoy our times together very much.

ELIAS: And I also, my friend.

PAUL: The situation with my son, Camdon: I asked him if he had any questions for you, and his objective understanding of the material is not great at the moment. I was expressing to him the concept of everyone creates their own reality which he, on the surface at least, says, “Yes, I understand that.” As opposed to you passing along words quote/unquote of wisdom to him, this is more of a question from my standpoint. I’m attempting to interact with him from essence as much as I can. I guess what I’m looking for is confirmation. Let’s be blunt: is this going okay?

ELIAS: You are inquiring for confirmation of what expression?

PAUL: My expression to him.

ELIAS: Which expression?

PAUL: I’m attempting to facilitate his movement by objectively giving him information which perhaps he can’t use at this moment.

ELIAS: Express to myself the identification of your motivation.

PAUL: Thank you! That’s what I was looking for.

ELIAS: For I may express to you, first of all, in this direction you do not hold the ability to facilitate his movement. This is the expression of attempting to create his reality, which you may not create.

PAUL: Thank you. (Elias chuckles) Is it not ironic that the issue of motivation is exactly the one which I presented to Lawrence last week? And I forgot it already!

ELIAS: Ah, this is a valuable point to allow yourself to be examining. As you are interacting with other individuals in relation to your own behavior and your own movement, allow yourself to inquire what your motivation is.

PAUL: Yep, because it’s there. I have payoffs associated with all of my actions.

ELIAS: Quite! And so do all other individuals within your physical dimension. But as you allow yourself to examine your expression of your motivation in all of your movements, you may also offer yourself clear information as to what you are creating and what you are NOT creating, and what you may be accomplishing and what you may not be accomplishing. You may also present to yourself explanation in identification of what other individuals present to you in reflection of yourself.

PAUL: It’s that mirror thing again, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Quite. But this offers you the opportunity to become more familiar with yourself, and in being more familiar with yourself, you also offer to yourself a clearer understanding of how and what you create within your reality, which expands your choices and allows you movement beyond automatic responses.

PAUL: (Chuckles) I think it’s that freedom word, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Quite!

PAUL: It just suddenly occurred to me that the way that we began this session was ... does this imply that you’ve made it to Regional Area 27?

ELIAS: (Laughs) I may express to you, were you to be paying attention to what I expressed, I did not express that I was offering surprise in discovery of another Regional Area, but discovery of an expansion in experience in an area of consciousness in which I already hold attention. (Chuckling) And I did not designate which! Ha ha ha ha!

PAUL: You’re just kind of a slippery guy to pin down aren’t you? (Elias laughs)

I appreciate the objective interaction and very much the subjective interaction with you, Elias.

ELIAS: And I also, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next meeting and the further exploration of your adventures in consciousness. Ha ha! To you, my friend, as always in tremendous affection, I bid you adieu.

PAUL: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:50 PM.

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