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LEN: “I don’t know whether I can really use you as an oracle of prophecy about very concrete things?

ELIAS: Ah, the crystal ball! (Laughter)

LEN: The crystal ball, yes! We have several crystal balls, and I’ve tried them all!

Will I remain in my present physical environment, doing my job in its present physical environment, or must I move on to a new office?

ELIAS: Ah, once again! ‘Must I? Should I?’ Ah! Tsk, tsk, tsk. And I shall inquire of you, what is your want?

LEN: Oh, I want my own office!

ELIAS: I express to you to be creating your wants and not to be allowing the duplicity of obstacles, for you are quite efficient at creating many, many obstacles for yourselves and expressing discouragement, and subsequently expressing to yourselves that you cannot be accomplishing, for you have placed too many obstacles before you. Very incorrect!

All of the obstacles that appear within your path, so to speak, are your own creations of your own obstacles! Therefore, you may remove them also, as efficiently as you place them within your path.

In this, each obstacle that you view, visualize this obstacle, regardless of its size, and measure, and be creating within your visual a pillar, a column. Each time you view an obstacle, create this pillar or this column within your visual, and move it!

LEN: Move it! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Create your own object that you may physically move, and express to this pillar or this column, ‘You have been placed in my way. Now you shall move, and I shall place you here and I shall continue upon my sojourn, and you shall be to the side, and I shall create without the obstacles.’

There is no element within your physical focus, if you are trusting of yourself, that you may not create!

... You may create ANY object, behavior, event, occurrence that you desire.

Now; I shall express to you that at times you may be wanting of certain elements which may not necessarily be in alignment with your intent and may not necessarily be beneficial to you, and may also not necessarily lend energy in this shift in consciousness. Therefore, you shall not necessarily create those wants.

Many individuals WANT to be acquiring winnings within your lottery, (laughter) but this may not necessarily be beneficial to them within their individual focus and it may not necessarily be in alignment with their individual intent.

Now; let me express to you also that individuals many times DO create physical, viewable possessions and movements that appear frivolous, but within their individual intents, they are great expressions of accomplishment in the area of trusting self!

In this, you may view an individual that is creating of a new element within their focus and expressing to you, ‘I shall acquire this.’ And you express to them, ‘This is not possible, for you to be acquiring this object within your means of your physical focus.’

And lo and behold, they are creating of this, and they are expressing to you, ‘I created this!’ For they have trusted themselves and not held doubt, and in not doubting and questioning the direction that they are creating, they are accomplishing!

VAL: That’s right. That’s very true. How do we determine our true intent? How do we become very aligned with the intent, and without all of the bombardment of mass beliefs but with our own true intent, our own true purpose for being here?

ELIAS: Many individuals look to this word of intent and become boggled and experience an overwhelming confusion and express, ‘This is so very difficult to identify!’ I express to you, it is quite easy to be identifying your intent. Look to your entire focus and the directions that you consistently move within in all of your expressions, and this shall offer you the information of your intent.

An example: An individual may be creating of many, many hurtful experiences within their focus, repeatedly placing themselves in situations that appear within your belief systems to be quite negative and quite hurtful.

LEN: To themselves?

ELIAS: Correct.

Now; in this, the individual may express to me, ‘What is my intent? To be hurtful to myself?’ No. The intent is being followed in gathering experiences that may be offering a more efficient ability for that individual to be offering helpfulness to other individuals that experience similar trauma. That individual may be aligned with the Tumold family ...

LEN: Tumold?

ELIAS: ... which may be the healing aspect, and they express, ‘How shall I be healing if I am creating hurtfulness within myself?’ But you are also creating experience, that you may allow yourself to move in a direction of connecting and exercising your own empathic sense, which shall be helpful to other individuals and shall be healing.

VAL: Is that necessarily within the same lifetime, or....

LEN: Well, that’s what Teresa did with some people. She took people who would dump their troubles on her, and she really understood ’cause she was doing the same thing to herself, but she could really help them because ... that’s what she did.

ELIAS: The individual may not choose to be discontinuing their own distress, so to speak, but even within their experience, they may be offering healing elements to other individuals and expressing quite efficiently within their intent.

LEN: And she did!

VAL: Yes, she did!

ELIAS: In this, you may look to yourself and your experiences without the judgments of your scatteredness, and you may view how you hold the ability to be introducing this aesthetic quality to all that surround you.

VAL: I’m aware of that.

ELIAS: Quite! It is not an element that is hidden from you. It is merely a question of your own acknowledgment of your own abilities and creations. It is fully within your view, what your intents are. You do not hide these from yourselves!

(Humorously) There is no subconscious! Quite amusing term as the lesser consciousness, which is not reality! All is available to you. It is merely your choice to be acknowledging and to be accessing all that you hold.

VAL: Then Elias, if I were consciously to choose to go in the direction of accomplishing success in getting an agent that will work for me – doing wonderful auditions, being hired, being asked to sing with companies or at places and festivals and that sort of thing – I can choose that?

ELIAS: Absolutely!

VAL: And I can create that?

ELIAS: Do you believe that you may create this? No!

VAL: I guess not!

LEN: But you already have in your life.

VAL: I have, I have! Not consciously, though.

ELIAS: Do you express to yourself that you may express to yourself, ‘I shall create this and it shall be?’ No.

VAL: I guess not.

ELIAS: And if you are reinforcing of yourself and expressing to yourself, ‘I shall create this,’ and allow the probabilities to fall into place, you SHALL create this. It is merely a question of trusting yourself and your own ability, and I am quite aware that this appears to be expressed quite simply, and that within your physical creations, you create this quite difficultly!

VAL: Well, does it ... I mean, when it all started to happen when I was much younger, I didn’t consciously set out to create anything! It seemed to just happen.

ELIAS: Ah, but this is the beauty of how you create your reality!

LEN: Right, yes!

ELIAS: Effortlessly!

VAL: How do I get back to that? That’s the question!

ELIAS: This is the expression of trusting self.

VAL: But then I got scared because it was happening so quickly and happening on such a high level....

LEN: But you didn’t trust yourself because you didn’t know how to sing.

VAL: Right....

LEN: But now you know how to sing!

ELIAS: And you subsequently....

VAL: But now I know how to do it! How do I get it back, Elias?

DANNY: Mommy, mommy.... (1)

ELIAS: Now you move in the direction of allowing yourself to trust yourself, for you have uncreated your creation by not trusting yourself.

I express to you each, you hold much more fear of successfulness than you hold of failure!

LEN: Oh, I hold a great fear of failure!

DANNY: Mommy....

ELIAS: Ah, but your fear of success – in what you term to be success in your belief systems – is also quite fearful, for you believe that there are great expectations and demands that accompany successfulness ...

VAL: Well, I certainly experienced that, and I guess I still must.

ELIAS: ... not merely of other individuals, but of yourself!

VAL: Oh, yes!

LEN: Well, the self is the worst expecter and demander there is!

ELIAS: Quite!

LEN: Greater than anybody else!

ELIAS: Quite! And this, as I have expressed to you, is your key. As you allow yourself to use your key and unlock your self and be trusting of self ... and acknowledge to yourselves that there is no thing within your physical focus that you may not accomplish! I may not emphasize this strongly enough, for it is your reality!

There is no element that you may not accomplish or create. You merely need be trusting of yourself and you shall create and it shall be effortless, and you shall know that you are creating within trust, as you shall be experiencing effortlessness in what appears to be elements flowing to you.

VAL: Right, right.

LEN: Right.

ELIAS: But this is not outside of you! It is not creations that flow to you from outside. It is what you draw to yourself, for you have created this in your own trust.

Therefore, reverse the thought process!

VAL: Right. It’s not a matter of manipulating that way, but just ... yeah, I understand it on some level.

ELIAS: It is creating, trusting, drawing to yourself, and receiving.

DANNY: Mommy, isn’t this all about trusting your instinct? Like what you said before about singing? (Out of the mouths of babes!)

VAL: Ask Elias.

DANNY: What Mom said before, is this just basically all about trusting your instinct?

ELIAS: What you term to be your instinct is your impulses, your intuition, that voice of you which is within you, and this is the voice that I am encouraging of you to be trusting, yes ... KNOWING that you may trust this voice regardless of how it may appear and regardless of whether other individuals view you to be a fool, for you know within yourself what you may trust, and in your expression of this, you shall be creating all that you desire.

VAL: Elias, how do you hear ... how do you listen to or distinguish that voice versus the voice of the world?

LEN: The other dogs! (2)

VAL: Yeah, the other dogs!

LEN: How do you know the bark of the right dog?

ELIAS: By identifying belief systems. The one dog may camouflage itself and may bark softer and may appear to be your voice of your intuition, and may in actuality not be.

The smaller voice shall always be that voice of your intuition and your essence. Therefore, if the large dog is barking quite softly, the smaller dog of your intuition shall be even softer.

VAL: How do you hear it then?

ELIAS: You may, by sweeping away the clutter of the belief system. Each time that you are evaluating which voice you are hearing, so to speak, examine this voice and the belief systems that are motivating.

Also examine what this voice is expressing to you. Is it expressing trust to you? Is it reinforcing your acceptance of yourself or does it hold judgment, good OR bad?

‘I shall be good if I am accomplishing this.’ This is a judgment! Your judgments are not merely negative. They may appear positive also, but they are a judgment.

Your voice of essence, of your intuition, shall hold no judgment. It shall always move in the direction of beneficial to you and helpfulness to you WITHOUT judgment – right, wrong, good, bad.

In this, you may create the voice of the belief systems as many, many pebbles, and you may sweep them aside, and you express to yourselves, ‘Discontinue this chatter with these belief systems and judgments and JUSTIFICATIONS,’ which also are quite automatic to you!

LEN: Rationalizations.

VAL: Right, sure!

ELIAS: Quite, for you shall find that what you term to be your universe, your reality, is not quite so rational and logical as it appears! It is not within chaos, but it also is not quite so very rational and logical!” (Chuckling) [session 344, December 05, 1998]


KEN: “You had mentioned in one of your transcripts [session 344] about seeing obstacles as pillars, and I’m thinking, well, you know, I have this pillar about money. (Elias grins) I’ve constructed a whole palace for my beliefs about money. And I’m saying, ‘Gee whiz, now you are suggesting that maybe I be Samson and move these pillars of marble?’ I’ve started since then changing my pillars to pillars of wood, and hopefully I’ll get to the point where they’ll be pillars of Styrofoam. Does this make....

ELIAS: (Chuckling) I express to you that I have offered to other individuals, and shall offer to you now, that it may be temporarily efficient for you to be changing certain aspects of belief systems, and this may be helpful to you in your movement in the direction of accepting belief systems. Therefore, I shall be encouraging to you in your movement in altering your pillars into less formidable obstacles than they originally appeared.

This particular aspect of beliefs – in the area of financial involvement within physical focus – is quite strong. Many, many individuals align with this particular issue, and also involve other issues in conjunction to this one area of finances. This brings into play, so to speak, ideas and issues surrounding elements of security and safety, protection, and value of the individual themselves.

Therefore, there is much involvement in these particular beliefs, and I am understanding of the difficulty that individuals encounter in attempting to be addressing to these beliefs.

I express to you that as you allow yourself to be recognizing your own wondrous capabilities, your own wondrousness of self, you may also allow yourself to be trusting that whatever you are so choosing to be manifesting within your physical focus, you may in actuality accomplish! And in this, there is no necessity for safety nets or security or protection in these areas of finances, for you may provide all that you view you need – which is also an aspect of beliefs – through your own creativity ... and you may accomplish this in fun! (Brief pause)

KEN: Elias? Elias?


KEN: I’ve been experiencing a blinking on and off in your last explanation in regards to this money.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Now; let me express to you, relax. For the exchange of energy that you are projecting in conjunction with my energy is creating interference with your reception, so to speak. Therefore I express to you that you may relax, and we may move slowly, and you shall be connecting with the information.

Also, I shall express to you that although I am acknowledging of what you are expressing as to your own movement in this area of finances, there are some elements that you hold doubtfulness with and are not necessarily receptive to listening to. (Chuckling)

KEN: I thought that was a possibility! (Laughing) I do have a way of not hearing momentarily ... when I don’t want to hear something!

ELIAS: Ah! And this would be so very unusual, as no other individuals are creating of this type of action! HA HA!” [session 389, April 29, 1999]

MIKE: “I was noticing, before my last session, spider webs, and that’s partly why I went in the direction of the web designing and whatsuch. However, I’ve been noticing more spider webs, and this time around, I’ve been seeing more spiders in the webs, and I actually had to kill a spider because he was like bugging me. And anyway, I’ve been noticing the spiders and the spider webs, and I was wondering what the imagery is.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, in this imagery, what you are presenting yourself with is objective symbolization, that you may recognize the workings of the spider and the web.

In this, the spider may spin the web, and may move in the direction of allowing another creature to become entangled in the web.

Now; this is a cooperation, be remembering.

Therefore, in this, as you view the spider web and the spider, you view the spider to be a threatening element, or the presentment of any element within your reality that you may view to be an obstacle or a negative element or a hindrance. Any of these directions may be symbolized by the spider.

The web is the incorporation of the process that you engage in your interaction and your addressing to the spider or the obstacles.

In this, you may choose to become entangled in the web, and therefore, you create the reinforcement to the obstacle and you feed the obstacle, OR you may not become entangled, and therefore, you may move freely.

In this, you present yourself with this type of imagery now, for you are quite accomplished at entangling yourself in the web and feeding the spider, for you become so very occupied with the web that you lose sight, so to speak, of the approaching spider.

In this, you are continuing to be struggling with the entanglement of the web, and therefore immobilize yourself, and as you immobilize yourself, you also become devoured.

This is very inventive and instructive imagery that you are presenting yourself with ... and also look to your interaction in which you assault the spider objectively for the reason that it is "bugging" you! HA HA HA HA!

And of COURSE it is irritating to you, for it is objectively reminding you of this imagery – that you present yourself with obstacles, and in your process in addressing to these obstacles, you become so very entangled with the process that you immobilize your movement, and therefore reinforce the obstacle or feed the spider.

In this, I shall express to you quite similarly to my expression with Candace [Nicky], and what I have offered to you previously also: Be aware of your concentration in certain areas.

You move many times in the direction of creating certain elements within your reality of which you wish to be creating, but you also create the presentment of great obstacles before you in your wanting of creating certain elements of your reality, and in this, you begin to examine and evaluate and analyze to the point of confusion and to the point that you immobilize yourself. This is the web.

And in this, you become stuck in the web of the analyzation and the viewing of the aspects of your creations, in which the obstacle then becomes strengthened more than the want. Are you understanding?

MIKE: Yeah, pretty much. It’s gelling. (Elias chuckles) So what you’re saying is that I’m allowing the obstacles to take over more strength than myself, kind of, without trying to reword everything you said.

ELIAS: Correct.” [session 435, July 30, 1999]

End Notes:

(1) Vic’s note: Danny 12 years old. He attended his first session in October of ‘98, and then requested this session for his birthday. Happy Birthday, Danny!

(2) Paul’s note: earlier in this session (#344) Elias used the metaphor of feeding a dog each time we discount ourselves and reinforce our own duplicity and lack of trust. By not feeding this dog we experience less conflict.

ELIAS: “Each time that you are moving in the direction of acknowledging to yourselves in an objective manner your own trust and your own acceptance, regardless of how you measure – for you are very good at measuring large expressions and small expressions – but regardless of the measure of the expression, you shall reinforce your own natural trust of self. In like manner, each time you are discounting of self and pushing for more accomplishments, you are reinforcing your own duplicity and lack of trust.

It is merely a matter of which dog you choose to feed and which shall become the larger of the two, (laughter) and I shall express to you that the dog of trusting and accepting is much more efficient at creating your reality!

LEN: It’s a much better pet!

ELIAS: Quite, and offers little or no conflict!” [session 344, December 05, 1998]

Digests – see also: | accepting self | belief systems; an overview | choices/agreements | duplicity | effortlessness | essence; an overview | essence families; an overview (Tumold) | fear | focus of essence; an overview | imagery | impulses | inner senses; empathic | intents | information | objective/subjective awareness | probabilities | prophecy | shift in consciousness | trusting self | you create your reality |

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